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The Shores of Reflection by SHAPE
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release date : february 2017
release party : Datastorm 2017
compo : c64 demo
ranked : 2nd
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popularity : 63%
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alltime top: #1927
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Wonderful graphics... really truly awesome :)
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 12:18:50 by Sapphire Sapphire
A crime this didn't win. Awesome style and code.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 12:20:27 by tomaes tomaes
Great demo with superb graphics and soundtrack, and many stunning screens!
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 12:24:45 by noname noname
this was so ossom on the stream!
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 12:27:20 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Lots of nice graphics and some neat effects. Not too fond of the music though and pacing could be better.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 12:52:21 by StingRay StingRay
lovely
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 13:23:35 by EviL EviL
Petscii infinite zoom. And that scroller in the screenshot is cool in front of the background and solid.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 13:28:50 by Optimus Optimus
Wait, this did NOT win?!
This Demo is a Masterpiece!
I have absolutely no clue how you did the scroller in the screenshot!
Now that i´ve seen this i wonder what Shape is up to in the Future...can it get even better?
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 13:33:14 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
Excellent! Keep it up guys, one of my favourites from the compo.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 13:49:42 by sLASH_1 sLASH_1
Really nice loved all the graphics from Archmage ett riktigt konstverk :)
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 14:44:56 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
The graphics really carry this one.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 15:07:34 by Gargaj Gargaj
Awesome..
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 15:17:28 by Buckethead Buckethead
Well deserved 2nd place. Very nice.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 15:34:25 by w00t! w00t!
shape combines excellent gfx and music with a tight flow that never gets boring, well done!
what happened to wisdom btw?
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 15:52:13 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
What StingRay said.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 16:25:50 by Kylearan Kylearan
The cubescape effect looks ace.. And some of the effects are "wtf"!
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 16:42:54 by mad mad
Completely NOT what StingRay said. Pacing could be better?! Good joke, Sir ;) Considering what kind of data guys have to load (and loader works flawless), it's tight as hell.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 17:21:19 by jammer jammer
my winner demo of datastorm 2017
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 17:23:16 by vigo vigo
Quote:
Good joke, Sir ;)


And quite unnecessary and useless comment, Sir! When I say pacing could be better I mean exactly that and don't care about how much data has to be loaded.
added on the 2017-02-12 17:42:03 by StingRay StingRay
Only an emphasis, Sir! ;) We agree to disagree then. You keep in mind that practically no C64 prod uses extended memory for parts preloading, right? ;) Apart from clearly distinguished REU releases. Lack of focus on platform limits is at least a slight trace of ignorance to my mind ;) I wouldn't allow myself for anything like this, watching CPC or Speccy prod, as I truly honour coders' efforts on those platforms and try to understand at least basics of all hurdles they have to jump over. Otherwise 8bit world wouldn't be that beautiful, would it? ;)
added on the 2017-02-12 18:32:26 by jammer jammer
Absolutely gorgeous!!! and, oh my, these GFX!!!

Is the flip disk part an allusion to this?
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 19:23:01 by BackSpace BackSpace
Fantastic!!
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 19:37:23 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
great stuff
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 19:56:50 by yzi yzi
Amazing, absolutely amazing graphics and some very cool and original ideas for effects. I wish it was just a bit less cryptic and made just a little bit more sense, because the progression is clearly there and some of the scenes are very evocative.

Or maybe I just have no clue. Lovely work and I am looking forward for more in this vein.
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 23:43:38 by introspec introspec
Archmage graphics extravaganza! And nice routines as well, scroller in screenshot is *insane*!
rulez added on the 2017-02-12 23:59:20 by Sdw Sdw
Really superb graphics! Especially the pics where the guy is crushing the chemical tube.And this psychedelic theme runs all the way throughout. Rare to see such consistency.

For the effects I thought the many "burning" transitions were really neat. The cubescape looked smooth and those petsci infinite zoomers look awesome. Think its the first time I have seen this effect. It looks like kind of c64 vector graphics technique.

Lots of people say the twisting scroller is the 'impossibru' effect. Would be cool with some background why in particular that one? Is it because there are too many pixels to plot considering the framerate and the background is complex? If it was amiga it would be some kind of table effect thing, but probably not how it's done here.
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 06:54:28 by rloaderro rloaderro
jammer: One could also argue that if the hardware limitations make good pacing impossible for a certain sequence of effects, than don't do these effects, period. Not every hurdle can be jumper over without ruining the end result, so maybe you should instead adapt to what is possible on the platform. (it's not that bad with this demo, but you get the idea.)

You can know about platform limits and still don't like what people do within those limits, but obviously tastes differ. :)
added on the 2017-02-13 09:17:20 by Kylearan Kylearan
One of the great C64 demos of all time.
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 09:31:42 by Preacher Preacher
Great just on a great platform
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 09:36:13 by mSW mSW
Quote:
Lots of people say the twisting scroller is the 'impossibru' effect. Would be cool with some background why in particular that one? Is it because there are too many pixels to plot considering the framerate and the background is complex?

Good question. It looks like the scroll is a long-ish texture and then a LUT plotter rolls the 10k or pixels in each frame, which should be possible. Could also be executed as a plain RT de-packed animation. But then again, I'm sure it's more complicated than that. Maybe someone who looked into it can chime in. :)
added on the 2017-02-13 10:39:54 by tomaes tomaes
In many parts it feels like watching a slidehow and the effects are just there to build up the next awesome picture.
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 12:29:57 by hfr hfr
This is ace !
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 14:02:12 by Cyg_BLaBla Cyg_BLaBla
Really great demo - my personal winner at the compo. I am really happy that Archmage was able to carry the concept from start to goal without compromises. Graphically heavy - yes, and what a ride! It's one of those prods that erases the lines between demo, slideshow and art.
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 15:00:52 by prowler prowler
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10k or pixels in each frame


Doing anything with 10k pixels when you have less than 20000 cycles per frame would be hard. So straight up per-pixel LUT is out I think. Have to be something smarter!
added on the 2017-02-13 15:28:01 by Sdw Sdw
.wow
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 15:51:35 by kempy kempy
Blew me away. Great concept and theme. And what a ridiculous amount of graphics 8D
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 17:39:41 by optic optic
Totally awesome graphics in here... and I love plain Hiresmode with clever farbclashes ;) ASCIIZoomer after Turn Disc party also rocked hard! Should have won.
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 21:01:32 by viscid viscid
Archmage obliterates all. Others may produce a higher number of photorealistic images, but very few can compete with his sheer mastery of emotion, and command of the storyboard.

Excellent soundtrack as well. Effect wise it's a bit of a mixed bag as I remember it from the compo, but the high points (such as that scroller) were really, really high.

loaderror: Check out "Sharp" by Fairlight and Instinct and "Effluvium" by ChristopherJam for char-based infinite zoomers.
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 21:53:06 by Radiant Radiant
Very very nice demo ; but dot scroller is totally unreadable
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 21:55:51 by krusty krusty
Awesome graphical attack!
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 22:06:20 by ham ham
insane amount and quality of artwork in this one. wow!
rulez added on the 2017-02-13 22:15:04 by teo teo
I thought this was a pretty darn good and beautiful demo
rulez added on the 2017-02-14 21:40:02 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Best C64 production i have watched in a while.
rulez added on the 2017-02-14 22:03:56 by 4pLaY 4pLaY
A great amount of amazing graphics, imaginative ideas, very moody and stylish parts. The music wasn't my cup of tea and some effects are not on par with the rest, but that's minor complaints while being overwhelmed by the visual side of the demo.

And that scroller seems to me like it is a tilted font that is scrolled in y with an unrolled loop of LDX STX with tech teching of the sprites interleaved

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rulez added on the 2017-02-14 22:20:23 by hollowman hollowman
Simply beautiful, great demo!
rulez added on the 2017-02-15 21:22:42 by sachy sachy
My favorite from the compo, instant love <3
rulez added on the 2017-02-15 21:33:48 by Triace Triace
My favorite from the compo. The graphics are insanely well done!
rulez added on the 2017-02-16 11:15:13 by gloom gloom
great gfx and msx
rulez added on the 2017-02-16 11:20:06 by Iapetus Iapetus
Ossom demo!
rulez added on the 2017-02-16 11:20:40 by Emod Emod
Wow, the graphics and design are so amazing! Archmage rules.
rulez added on the 2017-02-16 20:46:00 by arm1n arm1n
Nice stuff (youtube)
rulez added on the 2017-02-16 23:28:43 by bitl bitl
nice demo... just wondering why this did not win?
rulez added on the 2017-02-17 13:06:29 by ultra ultra
ohh! amazing!
rulez added on the 2017-02-17 18:15:17 by gentleman gentleman
Great comeback! My fave from the compo, I think because I enjoyed the gfx story mood. But I also liked the scrollers and some ideas in here. :)
rulez added on the 2017-02-18 00:56:17 by Photon Photon
Good work. Despite the participation of two gfx artists in this project (with different drawing style) the demo is very consistent (which rarely happens in such case). Nice soundtrack, mood and flow.
rulez added on the 2017-02-18 17:35:03 by slayer slayer
It is a good demo.
rulez added on the 2017-02-20 10:11:54 by Exin Exin
Superb demo with a real good flow. Great music, good effects and nice graphics in a good combination.
rulez added on the 2017-02-21 21:31:23 by AW87 AW87
Beyond just "good graphics" the greatness of this demo goes much much further. It's not that the pixelling is technically well done—which it is—but they are very consistent and convey emotion the way very few demos manage. Both of the top two could be said to deserve to win, but this just went way beyond my expectations. One of the most profound demos on this platform especially.
rulez added on the 2017-02-21 21:38:06 by noby noby
Amazing. Hats off.
rulez added on the 2017-02-22 20:00:15 by argasek argasek
i was blown away by this at the party! infinite zoomers being my favourite parts, but also a 3d blocks with the floating guy did top the whole "this is #@$@# amazing!" opinion for me.
respect for making it, absolute winner of the compo for me.
rulez added on the 2017-02-23 14:40:03 by bonefish bonefish
What Gargaj said
rulez added on the 2017-02-23 14:43:57 by Frequent Frequent
What Slayer said.. and Bonefish to..
added on the 2017-02-24 19:46:01 by magic magic
Decent. :)
added on the 2017-02-25 03:46:14 by AntDude AntDude
Awesome stuff!
rulez added on the 2017-03-04 08:15:51 by Mystra Mystra
boring
added on the 2017-03-05 13:58:42 by organism organism
Amazing ! Shape is one of my favourite C64 groups since artillery, I think this is their best prod as code is at the level of graphics, design and music ! Clearly one of the best C64 demo ever done for me :-).
rulez added on the 2017-03-07 08:39:46 by tometjerry tometjerry
Shape can and will top this demo for sure! But for now.. Thumbssss! :D
rulez added on the 2017-03-09 21:08:53 by magic magic
wow...how could I have forgotten to thumb this up :-)
rulez added on the 2017-05-31 21:30:10 by Kuemmel Kuemmel
above the usual c64 demo by a long stretch - immense power and impactful art that evokes strong feelings
rulez added on the 2017-06-17 16:18:48 by visy visy
nice tracks
rulez added on the 2017-06-18 04:56:25 by 1in10 1in10
Really stunning visuals and theming. The petscii zoomer was a great touch too.
rulez added on the 2017-06-21 22:51:35 by Revenant Revenant
missed the thumb on this, absolutely lovely work!
rulez added on the 2017-06-22 00:15:03 by ferris ferris
Not bad and very nice, but too lengthy at times.
rulez added on the 2017-06-26 21:46:12 by lvd lvd
Ohhhh, I love this demo so much. Keep on watching it during this year over and over again.

Story, gfx, music - everything is so good!
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 10:21:09 by nodepond nodepond
amazing work!
rulez added on the 2017-08-26 18:43:51 by dimouse dimouse
Missing thumb. My fav' C64 demo in 2017.
rulez added on the 2018-03-20 11:28:11 by Overflow Overflow
Superb work!
rulez added on the 2019-01-15 14:54:03 by C0untWAVnstein C0untWAVnstein
massive
rulez added on the 2019-06-06 11:10:40 by cslag cslag
Missing thumb. Great gfx again, accompanying code and good music, especially first tune fit greatly.
rulez added on the 2019-06-06 11:28:24 by Serpent Serpent
Really good.
rulez added on the 2019-06-19 23:23:44 by lennart lennart
awesome!
rulez added on the 2020-07-20 03:36:45 by frog frog
great looking demo!
rulez added on the 2021-05-28 23:31:28 by psenough psenough
awesome
I think I have seen it already.
Do not remember whether was it good or not...
added on the 2023-02-19 23:53:45 by sim sim
Oh it's good :)
rulez added on the 2023-02-20 00:05:47 by grip grip
Give me more like this!
rulez added on the 2023-06-27 23:02:17 by BjornHeimdall BjornHeimdall

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