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Megademica 4K by Serzhsoft
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release date : april 2019
release party : Revision 2019
compo : oldskool intro
ranked : 1st
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So, i have to admit that after 21 years, the GOA's hegemony is over.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you the best 4k on ZX ever since.
rulez added on the 2019-04-21 23:58:45 by sq sq
some pretty unusual effects there, at one point i've got an impression that there is even a narrative at play )) but the music sync is too off.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 00:06:16 by elfh elfh
When the greetings came i was sold if not before.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 00:55:16 by Serpent Serpent
This is awesome. So many variations and fx in 4k/
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 01:02:59 by kael kael
Cool :)
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 01:36:44 by Sapphire Sapphire
Huge !!!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 01:42:53 by Beb Beb
Sorry if it feels wordy, but I really feel the need to gush all over this product before I go to bed. I normally don't care too much about the Spectrum, or most pre-68000 platforms in general, but this went so, so far above and beyond my expectations I actually ended up considering Megademica my favorite prod of the entire party—which had no shortage of good candidates, to be fair. During the compo I was continually impressed by the amount of different visual content and the excellent track. I even thought it would work just as well as a full-size demo because the concept didn't seem significantly bottlenecked by size; I'm all down for moody demos with lo-fi effects.

And then the second part happened, and I was like, "wait, WHAT?" And it was even better than the first—which was already a solid demo irrespective of the size. Again with an even more excellent track.

And then the ending happened and delivered a hardcore smackdown to what was left of my sanity.

Seriously, thank you so much. This demo raised the bar in so many ways for me as a viewer, and very likely for the other oldskool system 4k producers as well. I think some good comparisons would be what cdak did for the PC 4k scene in 2010 and what fr-08 did for the 64k scene ten years prior: delivering a shocking amount of quality content in a size-limited category. If this doesn't win I'm gonna riot. (And then gonna riot again if it doesn't get nominated for the best oldskool intro or something.)

Out of curiosity, what's the rundown on the space consumed by different parts of the demo? Maybe you could do a small write-up or something?
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 04:55:12 by moozooh moozooh
Superb 4Kb full of awesomeness!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 05:12:12 by ham ham
Wow!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 07:50:39 by nollkolltroll nollkolltroll
how you implemented dither 2x2 ?
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 07:53:21 by g0blinish g0blinish
4KB? not 4MB? if i had enough glöps, i would give this a pcdc!
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-22 09:21:21 by pitapoto pitapoto
moozooh pretty much said it all. I have absolutely no clue whatsoever, how and what you've done here. Probably some kind of sorcery.
Write-up would be much appreciated, although magicians usually don't reveal their tricks either
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 09:46:20 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
total chunky ownage. fucking a w e s o m e!
also what sq and moozooh said
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 10:28:14 by wbcbz7 wbcbz7
just wow!
amazing how Serzh still pushing the borders of impossibility
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 11:10:12 by mborik mborik
mildly above awesome and impossible.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 11:35:55 by Ped Ped
My daughter and I like Megademica 4K.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 12:24:46 by p01 p01
just amazing
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 13:29:48 by Tjoppen Tjoppen
fuck yeah!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:34:09 by Adam Bazaroff Adam Bazaroff
yea fuck!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:00:05 by svo svo
Such an amount of fx that still improve during the show, with even bonus in the sound. :O
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:51:14 by Buckethead Buckethead
Serzh never disappoints + awesome music given the constraints
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:07:44 by lordcoxis lordcoxis
Amazing amount of content, plus, as a coder, I always look forward to your and baze's intros abusing chunks in new and innovative ways. Also, I am glad that you recognized how tiresome it is to watch an effect for longer than 3-4 seconds, so the chosen tempo of cutting is absolutely spot on, congratulations.

However, I do not like it, sorry. Too slow and dirty for my liking. I'll probably spend more time disassembling this than watching this.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:23:03 by introspec introspec
compression intensifies
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:38:25 by provod provod
3 x "well that's pretty impressive for a 4k" with growing levels of intensity.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 18:36:03 by visy visy
Absolute amazing!!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:23:06 by Karate Karate
I don't know what to say. This is witchcraft.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:33:44 by YERZMYEY/H-PRG YERZMYEY/H-PRG
Co to kurva do prdele je?!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:57:15 by Noby Noblnoch Noby Noblnoch
oh my god, that was great. Thx!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:36:50 by Ramon B5 Ramon B5
One of the best prods on any platform ever. It uses the machine's features, not as restrictions but as tools. Awesome. I think this was the best prod of the whole party.

In the next 4k, I guess there will be a music generator, and it will produce new music for at least a few weeks?
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:57:09 by yzi yzi
shockingly original effect and content somehow in just 4kb
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 00:08:58 by Rastertail Rastertail
4k?! WOW So So good. Unbelievable!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 01:29:18 by PauloFalcao PauloFalcao
well done!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 01:37:55 by psenough psenough
even the guy next to me that looked like a scene vet wasn't sure if we were in 4K or 64K category
massive work here, great job!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 02:11:31 by DiFFtY DiFFtY
AMIGA!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 02:26:06 by ded^RMDA ded^RMDA
awesome
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 03:08:59 by dq dq
Amiga shouting spectrum thumb! As for the large number of tunnel/lut variants in here combined with the Spectrum's limited memory limited time to calculate new tables while running the previous tables.... I have no idea how this thing works
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 06:34:36 by rloaderro rloaderro
Madness!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 07:37:39 by break break
Honestly, I am impressed with all these variations! This is awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 09:21:38 by voxy voxy
now this is insane!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 09:23:23 by JaK JaK
mind. blown.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 10:19:03 by juice juice
I have no clue how you managed to pull this off, but holy hell was it impressive! It just kept on and on and never got the slightest bit boring. Already complimented Gasman for the amazing soundtrack. I'm still in awe about how you guys managed to squeeze so much into such little space. Absolutely brilliant!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 10:37:08 by Punqtured Punqtured
ace!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 12:14:03 by zeebr zeebr
was watching this during the compo at the bar when my viewing got interrupted for a fairly lengthy chat. Finished talking, turned round and saw .. it was STILL running!

insane! would love to read a write up on how this was achieved.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 13:08:50 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
Don't know anything about anything oldskool, but I know this is MADNESS.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 13:24:26 by Trilkk Trilkk
How is this even possible. And just when you think it's over...
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 13:58:34 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
Whaaaaaaat??? I don't know what to say... Outstanding work!!! Impossible is possible ;)
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 14:48:17 by Dalthon Dalthon
Prod of the year for me...
I am really intrigued about the timing of the table calculations. Shared with the runtime? Or maybe performed on the small pauses?
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 15:19:19 by peskanov peskanov
Very stylish! Like!

And all that content packed into just 4K.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 20:19:52 by JTZ JTZ
Wow, colorful surprise at the end!
Awesome work!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 22:31:19 by ref ref
After a whole pair more of views.

I can't stop wondering how this marvel might work.

My first guess is that all scene are pre-rendered 16 frame loops.

All "videos" stored in 4k, using some kind of nice hyper-clever global redundandy character-block compressor-decompressor, so each scene/cut is pre-rendered using realtime versions of the scene produced by, what seems an Amiga or Win32 PC raster engine, and then ported to a 32 x 24 char SCR frame by frame, compressed by overall redundancy and played.

It's my guess...the other way around is coding all the scenes, in realtime, in 8bit asm with no floating point ...just take 7 scenes and try to imagine the size of the assembler code in bytes just might eat the whole RAM of the poor speccy, and you just reproduce the scene 2 seconds or less? with no variations on the tunnels trajectories, plasmas or spirals? does not make sense.
added on the 2019-04-24 10:39:21 by JaK JaK
Even if it seems to consist of one routine, you managed to cram a lot of matrices into 4k <3
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 10:55:49 by jammer jammer
What YERZMYEY said, pure wizadry, pure madness coming from Russia+UK. And it's 48K, not 128K!!! One of the best 4K on any 8bit platform without a doubt.
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 19:28:14 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
Wow!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 19:34:31 by bitl bitl
This one blew me away at the party. Massive respect.
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 19:35:53 by flynn_nrg flynn_nrg
Overstays its welcome by a few minutes, but still stunning. It would be interesting to know how exactly is it made - is it just a huge number of clever movetable tricks or is there something else going on?
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 21:51:35 by Preacher Preacher
Incredible
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 22:17:22 by Manwe Manwe
This intro could be subdivided and still would be pretty nice!
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 03:22:16 by LiSU^TRS LiSU^TRS
this is great, can't wait for final
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 13:56:30 by randomi randomi
Awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 16:16:51 by Antony/DTA Antony/DTA
That guy from Shadrinsk (if I remember correctly) is still active and kick ass. Crunched awesomeness.
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 18:54:07 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
Are you NUTS? This is INSANE! Nothing will be the same again.
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 23:45:00 by decca decca
congratz!
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 14:44:47 by gentleman gentleman
Decent, but long.
added on the 2019-04-26 22:11:53 by AntDude AntDude
Simply amazing!
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 04:57:40 by ROOT808 ROOT808
impossible
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 21:33:28 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
4K? omg... that's AWESOME!
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 10:33:40 by tifeco tifeco
so cool and so bored :) 8 mins, omg
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 12:30:47 by rook rook
Woho!
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 13:52:15 by Frequent Frequent
bloody brilliant!
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 14:01:51 by insane insane
Never thought something like that is possible on ZX! Kudos =)
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 14:02:29 by neoman neoman
good but too long
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 14:34:37 by SiR SiR
Well deserved winner
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 14:34:54 by krusty krusty
Amazing how you managed to squeeze all of this into 4k (with virtually no repetitions). I guess those lo-fi aesthetics would probably work very well as the backdrop for a chiptune concert, too.
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 15:28:08 by bsp bsp
holy shit. this is absolutely AMAZING
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 11:53:46 by VBI VBI
That's 4kb? No way! Amazing stuff!
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 15:14:03 by SuTeKH/Epyteor SuTeKH/Epyteor
Ohoh!!
Totally rocks.
Amazing to see a sooo long 4k... with this final sample :)
Cute with these colors at the end!
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 22:48:20 by Hicks Hicks
Love it
rulez added on the 2019-05-01 07:23:13 by rmb rmb
Agree with the commentators arguing for brevity, but magical coding for a 4k!
rulez added on the 2019-05-01 08:03:47 by CiH CiH
Holy fucking shit!
rulez added on the 2019-05-02 11:06:10 by skan skan
Awesome! (also: it never ends... just like brexit :)
rulez added on the 2019-05-02 11:29:44 by blala blala
woOw
rulez added on the 2019-05-03 23:56:16 by HellMood HellMood
Spectacular! At first I suspected some one trick pony with very clever parametrization. By the end with so much variety presented, I was more "that's a giant herd of ponies and unicorns".
Some effects are really hypnotic, interesting and fresh, regardless of size and platform. I mean, some full-blown demos on more powerful machines would benefit having such kind of visuals!
I also love the soundtrack, perfectly fitting and emphasizing the awesomeness.
Revision's orgas may have found my jaw while cleaning.
Also, what HellMood said.
rulez added on the 2019-05-04 21:32:29 by m_dr_m m_dr_m
cool
rulez added on the 2019-05-07 06:09:36 by hollowone hollowone
So much content and cool music <3
rulez added on the 2019-05-08 13:33:13 by Triace Triace
Excellent music and lots of content. However, I would have liked a shorter show as in the long run the effects are getting repetitive to watch.
rulez added on the 2019-05-09 10:47:41 by StingRay StingRay
As a programmer I'm completely mind blown
rulez added on the 2019-05-11 13:56:45 by FlyingDR FlyingDR
Awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-05-11 14:13:45 by DanLemon DanLemon
We joked at the party that there would be a part 2 - but not because we were impressed but because it was about 3 times as long as it should've. You have to respect the technical feat, but this is also mindbogglingly boring.
rulez added on the 2019-05-11 14:24:39 by Gargaj Gargaj
Quote:
My first guess is that all scene are pre-rendered 16 frame loops.

All "videos" stored in 4k, using some kind of nice hyper-clever global redundandy character-block compressor-decompressor, so each scene/cut is pre-rendered using realtime versions of the scene produced by, what seems an Amiga or Win32 PC raster engine, and then ported to a 32 x 24 char SCR frame by frame, compressed by overall redundancy and played.

It's my guess...the other way around is coding all the scenes, in realtime, in 8bit asm with no floating point ...just take 7 scenes and try to imagine the size of the assembler code in bytes just might eat the whole RAM of the poor speccy, and you just reproduce the scene 2 seconds or less? with no variations on the tunnels trajectories, plasmas or spirals? does not make sense.

My bet would be a mix on the two; kinda like the classic palette-rotation animations, except rotating blocks/block types instead of colours, with each animation lookup table being precalculated as the previous is rendering (since it's just a lookup it doesn't seem to require a lot of CPU so there's plenty left in the tank to spend some time calculating the next screen, no matter how crazy the math is)
added on the 2019-05-11 14:30:58 by Gargaj Gargaj
Had to download and run it to be sure that it's not secretly "just" streaming a video from the internet.

Amazing!
rulez added on the 2019-05-11 15:00:40 by Solar Flare Solar Flare
Felt a bit short, but the content that was there was damn awesome
rulez added on the 2019-05-11 17:35:26 by Harekiet Harekiet
very cool for 4k... drags on forever, but then, woah... colors!
rulez added on the 2019-05-13 22:46:35 by cslag cslag
secondary thumb for the excellent soundtrack 👍
added on the 2019-05-14 16:14:38 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
Should have been ranked higher. Also, we can see you cut your teeth in 2014!
added on the 2019-05-18 16:23:11 by m_dr_m m_dr_m
holy smokes, what a feat.
rulez added on the 2019-06-20 13:14:12 by utz utz
Fucking crazy Speccy 4k with awesome music just saw it for the first time
rulez added on the 2019-06-21 12:57:22 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
shut up and take my heart
added on the 2019-07-02 16:29:53 by pitapoto pitapoto
woah
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 11:11:22 by Flashira Flashira
Unbeatable in this category!
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 23:10:46 by TomCatAbaddon TomCatAbaddon
jawdropper and first contender for the prod of the year!
rulez added on the 2019-10-02 13:47:49 by RufUsul RufUsul
Great!!!
rulez added on the 2019-10-15 18:06:34 by petyo71 petyo71
This is absolute insanity! Soo many scenes, the second part, the speech synthesis - all in 4k! Totally blew me away at the party!
rulez added on the 2019-11-17 11:43:11 by v3nom v3nom
Great packing is great!
rulez added on the 2019-12-04 09:53:16 by spkr spkr
It just got crazier and crazier!
rulez added on the 2020-02-13 18:35:57 by pestis pestis
Awesome amount of content, but because it's all so slow and chunky, it's not really enjoyable to watch. I remember thinking of the exact same concept for C64 after seeing artefacts and I'm glad I didn't go for it.
rulez added on the 2020-02-13 21:25:12 by ferris ferris
The hype sort of missed me on this one. I get it's a 4k and all, but looping—seemingly random albeit stylistically consistent—LUTs for minutes on end is hardly entertaining or stimulating for me. The vocal bits at the end certainly flatten any moodiness preceding it. As far as the technical feat goes I'm obviously a layperson at judging it but it certainly doesn't feel outside the realm of thinkable to me.

It's kinda cool but I guess I just don't know hot to feel about it beyond that.
added on the 2020-02-13 22:01:06 by noby noby
100th thumb from me
rulez added on the 2020-03-30 12:00:02 by gorgh gorgh
dope and sick in amount of mem!
rulez added on the 2020-04-20 22:04:08 by alx alx
Quote:
It's kinda cool but I guess I just don't know hot to feel about it beyond that.


+1
added on the 2020-04-21 01:13:08 by ded^RMDA ded^RMDA
great
rulez added on the 2020-05-12 17:04:22 by Blast! Blast!
nice
rulez added on the 2020-05-12 21:00:14 by lvd lvd
Deserved winner of the PC 4k Compo ... ehm, oh wait...
rulez added on the 2020-07-28 22:40:40 by JAC! JAC!
russian style, Montage, sincere art. technically speaking, there's tearing. music is good. haunting doesn't render in chiptune.
rulez added on the 2020-11-17 21:11:52 by gligli gligli
Very Superb Coolest So Long 4k intro! Its looking like a full demo I think!

Big Greetings from me and Dr.Dash too...



Anshukov Vladimir/Mitchell/Hardwave Crew/Paradigmus orgs
Moscow+Serpukhov/Russia
rulez added on the 2021-10-18 21:28:42 by mitchell mitchell
Post Scriptum: It builds upon irrealy.
added on the 2023-02-24 04:44:55 by m_dr_m m_dr_m
YouTube 8K @ 50fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P9FKBcuApU

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added on the 2023-03-24 18:55:25 by ded^RMDA ded^RMDA

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