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screenshot added by reality3D on 2003-11-02 17:44:24
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release date : november 2003
release party : bcnparty 2003
compo : combined demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 65
  • is ok 25
  • sucks 2
popularity : 1%
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alltime top: #1066
added on the 2003-11-02 17:44:24 by reality3D reality3D

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Expect a linux version in some days
added on the 2003-11-02 17:55:14 by reality3D reality3D
Cool demo! I like more synchro but... a good production.
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 17:55:57 by khrome khrome
pretty good demo, some very cool elements, but unfortunately ruined by stuttering audio-playback - DON'T USE FMOD!
added on the 2003-11-02 18:21:51 by gloom gloom
This has so much going for it. Well designed scenes, especially the opening scene. But the music ruins it for me. It kills the impact of the demo that it has such a bad (read: Boring) soundtrack. Looking 4ward to see more from you guys.
added on the 2003-11-02 18:25:49 by NoahR NoahR
Good! Very nice art and modeling. Some interesting code aswell, but as said above, the experience is kind of ruined by the noised sound and lack of sync. The soundtrack itself i suppose was kind of okay
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 18:35:44 by Duckers Duckers
Yes, a lot of potential wasted, but actually, it's still pretty good.
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 18:36:07 by tomaes tomaes
i liked the music actually
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 18:38:53 by Gargaj Gargaj
very good start, but, i agree with the people opinions, the music have no enough level. (Come on spanish musicians!!)
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 18:50:18 by mrdoob mrdoob
It mostly ran like shit on my setup, even on the lowest settings. The music sounded ok, but didn`t seem to fit the visuals.

It did look quite nice, although everything was a bit too blurred.
added on the 2003-11-02 19:08:19 by darkus darkus
Reboots my system after the scene with the red cylinder in the centre. Next time, please warn us about your poor coding skills so that I can save my work before running your demo.

(WinXP, Radeon 9500, Catalyst 3.8)
added on the 2003-11-02 19:09:20 by sagacity sagacity
nah :(
actually the demo starts very promising, but after a moment it became really boring, not only because of the boring soundtrack, imho there is also too much fog/noice in the whole demo...
with another soundtrack this could have been something :/
added on the 2003-11-02 19:10:12 by elkmoose elkmoose
i won't be original...
really fine for everything but... change that music! ;)
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 19:23:43 by vagus vagus
P4 - 3Ghz / Radeon 9800 Pro -> Reboots my machine (2nd crash of my machine in 4 months).

Music clicks
added on the 2003-11-02 19:28:40 by mac mac
Really good demo, also the music is atleast ok.
added on the 2003-11-02 20:14:32 by Crest Crest
great artwork, cool 2d overlays
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 22:54:02 by jazzman jazzman
gloom: exactly, what in the hell has an established well-featured and fully functional audio library like FMOD to do with the playback problems as encountered in this production? next time, say something smarter :)

not going to run this now, perhaps another time :)
added on the 2003-11-02 22:58:05 by superplek superplek
plek, i have encountered quite a few demos using fmod that had stuttering problems.. Maybe the audio buffers are set too low? (why would a demo require low latency audio is beyond me)
added on the 2003-11-02 23:00:06 by _-_-__ _-_-__
that's probably the problem at hand. cheap/crappy or completely batshit insane soundcards usually trip over small soundbuffers.

(plek used to scold me for using my digi card for demos, since it would chop like a lawnmower unless he upped the soundbuffer).
added on the 2003-11-02 23:08:32 by Shifter Shifter
it's just a matter of balancing really :)
added on the 2003-11-02 23:10:44 by superplek superplek
nice demo, i enjoyed it
rulez added on the 2003-11-02 23:46:40 by quisten quisten
wow! nice stuff =)
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 00:21:24 by starbuck starbuck
plek: actually fmod is the audio-playback system most people have problems with, you dutch know-it-all (who doesn't like beer, yeah, that's right people! ..oh, and he's also gay.. and visits his mother every sunday (after church))

..or something to that effect. :)
added on the 2003-11-03 01:23:27 by gloom gloom
Except for one demo with a really buggy player I never had stuttering sound in a demo or intro. And my SB card is also only a SB16 clone.
added on the 2003-11-03 01:27:24 by Crest Crest
This demo rebooted my computer on the same place 3 times in a row so i havn't been able to see it yet, i like what i have seen so far though.

No thumb until i have seen the whole thing.
added on the 2003-11-03 05:00:34 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
nice demo.
cool some effect and some stuff.
however, too short.
added on the 2003-11-03 05:18:20 by got got
please more! :)
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 06:09:27 by XteNt XteNt
my computer rebooted, but the little i saw was nice!
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 08:03:52 by bzz bzz
plek: fmod doesn't give you and accurate timer. a 40hz timer is qute bad, and you can't really rely on QueryPerformanceTimer to be in sync with the audioplayback due to poor soundcards and/or drivers. Besides, I have had lot of troubles with fmod (computer-crashes in some modules on some fmod-versions etc, stuff running out of sync etc).

Fmod is not very good for demos. However, for games and such, I believe that fmod is one of the better alternatives. For demos, I prefer bassmod for modules and the ogg/vorbis libs + directsound for streamed music.

So... gloom is basicly right about the "DONT USE FMOD"-part. However, I didn't hear anything wrong with the music, but then again I'm not a musician.
added on the 2003-11-03 08:37:32 by kusma kusma
Args, sorry about the Radeon problem. We had no Radeons to test with :(. Please send details to " us AT rgba DOT org", and we'll try to fix that as soon as possible. Just a wild guess, did you try to run the demo in a resolution other than 640x480?
added on the 2003-11-03 09:19:02 by utopian utopian
nice demo, but the soundtrack is somewhat weak.
I had no problem with FMOD, and used it for some prods/tests (FMOD, miniFMOD, FMOD CE) w/o problem... but i heard so much complaints i'm starting to get suspicious... (and i'm still no musician :))
(...tho the only release we got actually problems about music playback was the one that used direct-crap instead of FMOD :)) )
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 11:24:32 by FooLman FooLman
kusma: i would only agree with "don't use fmod the way you do", you see :)

(and since when did i stop drinking beer and let the great love of Jesus into my life?, i've been waiting for that moment quite a while now! :-))
added on the 2003-11-03 11:29:51 by superplek superplek
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!
Congrats :P
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 11:49:08 by JosSs JosSs
Hmm.. I´m an available spanish musician :))
Call me now: 906... hahaha xD

I liked the first effect... tentacles octopus rulez!
added on the 2003-11-03 12:14:12 by khrome khrome
I liked the opening scene but I didn't quite get how the rest had to do with that.. felt like a bunch of non-connected scenes or something.. dunno.. nice work anywas!
added on the 2003-11-03 13:31:23 by violator violator
I liked specially the nice (but very appropiate) effects. They seem like photography techniques - so great. But that music made me feel down... it first looks like it is getting lots of energy but then stops and makes the rhythm down ... what a pity!
The overall impression is: GREAAAT!! (I knew rgba was going to win since the first time I saw the demo at the jury hall).
Guay! XDDD
rulante tio!
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 16:22:24 by psenough psenough
it's not my favourite style but it's a good job, very good
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 16:23:34 by bfx bfx
i liked it, the text didn't fit very well though. But the native linux version didn't run very well but the wine emulated windows version did.
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 16:33:45 by termos termos
ups, wrong prod. too many windows.
added on the 2003-11-03 17:29:39 by termos termos
termos; don't worry, we'll have a linux version in some days so that you can comment on it! ;)

The demo release manager bastard didn't give me enough time to prepare it! ;)
sucks added on the 2003-11-03 17:51:50 by enlar enlar
i agree with most ppl here. i like it but the music sounds a little, um.. cheesy? first 50 secs of the music is building up great, then it lose grip and become uninterresting
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 18:27:26 by d-swi d-swi
Who is that bastard enlar?
added on the 2003-11-03 19:04:59 by reality3D reality3D
beautiful prod on geforces, too bad it makes my r9600p config reboot :/
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 19:27:30 by Zest Zest
at 4th scene (the one introduced by zoom-on-screen transition) if that could help rgba coder(s)...
added on the 2003-11-03 19:36:13 by Zest Zest
Not my style, but definitely a lot of work went into making it, and it creates an atmosphere. Although not spectacular in any particular section, it's a good demo alltogether. Good job.
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 19:51:09 by Jcl Jcl
Congrats guys, you did it :D Next time we want the full RGBA posse @ BCN to relish the victory!
I only miss the pace going wild just after the tunnel+tentacled object part. I guess everybody expected that.
And the final logo part is sooo cool :)
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 20:02:28 by ithaqua ithaqua
Original and good filters, this prod r00lzs.
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 21:02:37 by Astharoth Astharoth
Very cool indeed! The blur effects are fantastic and give the 3d scenes a photorealistic look in places. Great work!
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 21:17:26 by Wade Wade
Quite slow paced for my taste, but the overall quality is astonishing
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 21:55:18 by shash shash
Really good, and i like the music too. Congrats rgba
rulez added on the 2003-11-03 22:18:58 by gorku gorku
To the radeon users: there's a light of hope. We have managed to make the demo work at least on one Radeon :). We'll try to make sure it works on a few more cards before releasing a patch, but... why on earth would it crash using render to texture to a 512x512 window but not to a 512x256 one? Any hint?
added on the 2003-11-03 22:48:07 by utopian utopian
Some goodthings, and some weird design choice in a couple of points which motivated a pig
added on the 2003-11-03 23:13:03 by dixan dixan
r3D, of course you are that release manager bastard! Ha, ha! ;) Ok, ok, I'll have some words with iq, that source-code-secretism bitch! ;)
added on the 2003-11-04 11:00:44 by enlar enlar
kewl and very well prod, though i like another kind of demos; worths the download
added on the 2003-11-04 11:04:01 by sergeeo sergeeo
well worked prod*
added on the 2003-11-04 11:04:46 by sergeeo sergeeo
utopian: what does the directx debug runtime say?
added on the 2003-11-04 11:14:11 by sagacity sagacity
Thank you all for the comments :]
added on the 2003-11-04 11:27:40 by newalpha newalpha
amazing rendering and great effects
rulez added on the 2003-11-04 11:29:29 by sokoban sokoban
sagacity: I'm afraid the directx debug runtime won't be of any help, since we are using Opengl. Anyway, if you want to help us with the troubleshooting, you'll be more than welcome.
added on the 2003-11-04 11:50:32 by utopian utopian
cool work, congrats
rulez added on the 2003-11-04 12:29:32 by tolemaC tolemaC
utopian: I'm not too interested in more reboots, but if you think you've fixed the bug, feel free to contact. :)
added on the 2003-11-04 12:36:32 by sagacity sagacity
great prod guys :D
rulez added on the 2003-11-04 13:59:07 by EviL EviL
Quality, quality, quality ;)
rulez added on the 2003-11-04 17:06:28 by hgh hgh
is ok
added on the 2003-11-05 10:33:22 by NuKem NuKem
Great prod, guys! I liked a lot the old school feeling of the music and FX on the credits part, combined with the new school style of most of the demo.

Thumb up!
rulez added on the 2003-11-05 16:58:50 by teknik teknik
VEEEEERY COOL
rulez added on the 2003-11-05 17:05:58 by v3nom v3nom
problems on radeon? worked fine here. ati mobility radeon 9000 64Mb, catalyst 3.8, winxp.

or did you fix that? =)
added on the 2003-11-05 19:47:14 by fox fox
I have just noticed that ATI has released new drivers (catalyst 3.9). Could anyone with a Radeon 9500,9600,9700,9800 please test the demo and see if it still crashes? There must be some driver bug there, since the machine reboots, and they might have fixed that. Thx :)
added on the 2003-11-06 12:38:39 by utopian utopian
Fine piece of art you got in there, guys. Jolly good work indeed.
rulez added on the 2003-11-06 12:46:10 by izecolt izecolt
crashed. radeon9000.
added on the 2003-11-06 13:35:38 by bhead bhead
nice good, nice gfx, but horrible music...
rulez added on the 2003-11-06 16:12:29 by spengler spengler
rulez added on the 2003-11-06 19:04:26 by Zafio Zafio
The graphics are darn good, and the last scene with the little red cubes going about is a great idea and a brilliant execution of it. If only it was a little more fast paced.
added on the 2003-11-06 19:16:46 by sin sin
4me, the best demo prod at BCNparty'11, the music not my special (has 0 force against the strenght of some parts)...btw loves that Splinter Cell smell, and some models and scenes are kinda superb! GREAT GREAT!
rulez added on the 2003-11-06 19:40:12 by JaK JaK
I wish all first productions were like this one. Looking forward to the next one being even better.
rulez added on the 2003-11-06 20:32:31 by wally wally
Wrong production, as you can guess.
Anyways, this one is worth a thumb up, although for other reasons =8-)
added on the 2003-11-06 20:48:47 by wally wally
Some really nice rendering, and the breaking glass vial was cool. Beyond that, kinda empty.
Excellent, although I would've loved more 2d gfx and a stronger soundtrack. Code and 3d are amazing.
rulez added on the 2003-11-09 18:57:13 by yero yero
rulez
but the ending of that music heavily reminds me of ending of fr08's music ;) hmmmm... :D
rulez added on the 2003-12-09 21:09:32 by red red
very very neat .. but if i see that whirly thing with arms once more i shall puke all over the screen ... music really goes ... nicely wrapped up
rulez added on the 2003-12-11 20:22:03 by Zzed Zzed
YEZZZZZZ !!!

Great demo...nice textures...music was ok.
Some great ideas !
rulez added on the 2003-12-31 18:42:41 by 0x$$ 0x$$
great demo! today i download new driver for my radeon9000 (catalyst 3.10!) and demo not crash. but, so slowly...... (1800, 256, r9000, xp).

wait for catalyst 51.9:)
added on the 2004-01-18 13:24:27 by qaz qaz
rulez!
rulez added on the 2004-01-18 13:26:25 by qaz qaz
Good news for radeon users! Just tested the party version on a radeon 9600 pro with the very latest Catalyst drivers (4.1) and it doesn't crash anymore! If anyone else with a similar configuration can confirm it we would be grateful.

A few things need to be sorted out before the final version is ready (some slowdowns on radeons, fmod issue on some configurations, final linux support...), so stay tuned.
added on the 2004-02-07 11:22:26 by utopian utopian
this is nice!
i like the overall design, although the colors and the realisation (on the coders' side) could be better..
and the speech at the and suxx :)
rulez added on the 2004-02-07 15:55:53 by blala blala
rgba is proud to release the final dual Linux/i386 and Windows of R.E.D..Also, one article about the making of is avaible in spanish at http://www.rgba.org
added on the 2004-05-05 20:26:30 by reality3D reality3D
wooh the final version runs great! 3D & colors are so sweet =)

maybe the music is a bit cheap compared to the visual greatness :]

added on the 2004-05-07 05:15:15 by Zest Zest
Great 3d scenes! Kudos for the linux support.
rulez added on the 2004-05-07 19:12:45 by titanstar titanstar
Nice one, music isn't that bad!
I wonder what the password for the archive is... :)
rulez added on the 2004-05-09 00:24:33 by beavis77 beavis77
oh, very nice, i still stand by my last mistake thumb-up ;)
added on the 2004-05-09 03:57:48 by termos termos
It looks very good from the few scenes that I managed to watch, however I get a lot of white screens and white quads around, so there might be some kind of texture problem....
GNU/Linux, radeon 9500 pro
GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc.
GL_RENDERER: RADEON 9700 Generic
GL_VERSION: 1.3 (X4.3.0-3.7.6)
added on the 2004-05-14 18:26:46 by Nuclear Nuclear
Indeed worth watching! Great demo.
rulez added on the 2004-05-14 18:41:31 by raer raer
Good. I like the little touch of fading out instead of simply hard exiting on escape, BTW (I tried it in 640x480 first, but figured it would look a lot better in 1024x768) ;-) Pity about the extreme loading delays/hangs between the scenes, though.
rulez added on the 2004-05-16 14:32:57 by Sesse Sesse
Oh, and by the way: You appear to have major problems with your RTT code with ATI on Linux (FireGL drivers with Radeon 9600 Pro, same thing as Nuclear's reporting), no matter the resolution or fullscreen/windowed. It seems weirdly stretched or something, which more or less makes the demo unviewable. :-)
added on the 2004-05-16 19:16:43 by Sesse Sesse
More OBTWs: Try adding "-Wl,-rpath ." to your linking stage, then you won't have to mess with lancher scripts and such.
added on the 2004-05-16 19:18:27 by Sesse Sesse
Yeah.. fading out on escape is a nice touch.. we used it on eon as well.. but why on earth would you press Escape while watching rgba??? Sweet demo
rulez added on the 2004-05-16 19:55:42 by aMUSiC aMUSiC
Nuclear, sesse, we are aware of that linux+radeon problem. I am not very sure if it is our fault or the driver's, but we will have a look... Anyway, it's pretty strange that it works on windows but not on linux.
added on the 2004-05-17 13:53:05 by utopian utopian
utopian: I believe plain glCopyTexSubImage2D() is broken in the latest FireGL drivers. You may want to use pbuffers instead -- they're more flexible and faster as well. Drop me an e-mail if you need working code :-)
added on the 2004-05-18 18:54:32 by Sesse Sesse
sesse: thanks. We already have pbuffers working, but only for windows :). I guess it's time to start porting it... Anyway, that works ok with my Radeon 9600 Pro...

About the all-white problem, I have some good news. If I recompile some parts of the demo using my own machine instead of the one we used, that problem dissapears :). Could be an OpenGL library thing (Mesa vs. ATI proprietary !?). Anyway, we will probably release a fix for that soon.
added on the 2004-05-20 08:26:12 by utopian utopian
Nice Demo :)
No lags, no probs...
More synch please :)
rulez added on the 2004-05-22 20:16:25 by Timonator Timonator
Reality3d: writing newsposts about final-versions are lame.
sucks added on the 2004-05-24 18:51:00 by gloom gloom
Reality3d: writing newsposts about final-versions are lame.
added on the 2004-05-24 18:51:17 by gloom gloom
Reality3d: writing newsposts about final-versions are lame.
added on the 2004-05-24 18:51:22 by gloom gloom
oh, PLEASE.
added on the 2004-05-24 19:20:16 by tomaes tomaes
thx gloom. Writting three times the same is also very lame ;)
added on the 2004-05-25 13:20:58 by reality3D reality3D
For those having problems with Radeon under linux: we have released an updated version, ylou can download it using the same link. It turned out to be my fault 0:)
added on the 2004-06-21 08:29:19 by utopian utopian
Well done, but your knowledge of physics should be improved. ;)
rulez added on the 2004-10-04 13:26:20 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
Good music, nice gfx, up-to-date code... rulez
rulez added on the 2004-10-04 14:39:57 by Frozzy Frozzy
doesn't crash anymore on my radeon. nice one
rulez added on the 2004-10-04 14:57:22 by asasel asasel
Very stylish, another of my favorite demos.
rulez added on the 2004-11-22 12:02:30 by deathyepl deathyepl
Beautiful and stylish.
rulez added on the 2004-11-22 12:34:14 by Preacher Preacher
nice 3d show
nice 1st scene direction and rendering
rulez added on the 2005-03-09 15:37:26 by Zone (leZone) Zone (leZone)
Awesome Design!!
rulez added on the 2005-03-09 17:41:57 by Mike 3D Mike 3D
Nice 3D scene with realistic models of a lab. The abstract objects had some not so good textures. Liked the credits scene. Music OK.
rulez added on the 2005-04-20 23:16:27 by ManJIT ManJIT
Good story and visuals.
rulez added on the 2005-12-15 11:58:48 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
Nice graphics and overall impression, music suffers a bit - and the whole plot or style wasn't really for me... But keep it up!
rulez added on the 2005-12-29 08:57:28 by d3pth d3pth
rulez added on the 2006-08-03 16:17:12 by wie8 wie8
Some nice visuals here. Music is decent.
rulez added on the 2007-06-19 19:24:15 by Drunken_Poet Drunken_Poet
Small thumb up.
rulez added on the 2008-06-07 07:01:30 by xernobyl xernobyl
Pequeño thumb uppa.
rulez added on the 2009-02-08 21:28:45 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
Pretty solid.
rulez added on the 2009-04-20 00:24:16 by Alpha C Alpha C
one of the first demos i saw
still nice
rulez added on the 2009-04-28 23:38:22 by unc unc
too cheesy
added on the 2009-04-28 23:44:03 by zefyros zefyros

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