Chips don,t lie by Ephidrena & Darklite [web]
screenshot added by evil on 2010-07-21 12:43:54
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release date : july 2010
release party : Solskogen 2010
compo : oldskool demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 73
  • is ok 11
  • sucks 0
popularity : 1%
  • rulez 0.87
alltime top: #892
added on the 2010-07-21 12:43:54 by evil evil

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I was told that this would be a dual Amiga/Falcon release, but unfortunately only Amiga binaries are in the archive.

There's also a video available, I'm not sure if the framerate is authentic as it's made from UAE.

Anyways cool demo with some nice effects and a great soundtrack :-)
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 12:47:32 by evil evil
That's a nice little thing. The "circle" tunnel looks very fine.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 13:28:05 by Corial Corial
Great shit! :) The tagging rules! :)
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 13:31:24 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
The tough guys! Nice design ideas, the circle tunnel and the rotating blob-alike-thingie are my favs.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 13:37:57 by Charlie Charlie
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 13:40:52 by leijaa leijaa
Too cool for school!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 13:48:21 by gloom gloom
let me try again:

coolest creds ever in any demo on any platform! so simple yet so fucking cool. I guess TFT was the master behind it?

Also wonderful music!

I am thrilled to see ephidrena ar back making demos. with some help from Darklite on the music and gfx-front this became a very nice demo!

but where is the falconversion everyone was talking about? :( Amiga SUCKS! ;)
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 14:04:36 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
well, we didnt upload this... ;) Falcon version is right around the corner tho, probably along with an Amiga final...
added on the 2010-07-21 14:13:44 by nerve nerve
Hmmf. I was hoping to hold back this release just a few more years to release a proper final, but now it's out.

There is a final in the works with Atari port , Frequent's remix of Response's track and some other improvements, but all in all it will look pretty much like this. Last time I checked the frame rate was between 16-22 fps depending on the effect so not too bad, but the video is 30 all the way IIRC. Faster than most eph demos, but not as fast as loonies demos ;)

added on the 2010-07-21 14:14:55 by loaderror loaderror
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 14:16:59 by menace menace
nerve: great! Make sure the falcon version is better than the amiga version.

here is a special effect to put in the Amiga-version of the demo:

.flash bchg #1,$bfe001
bsr _wait
dbf d0,.flash

_wait move.l #50-1,d0
.wait bsr _waitvb
dbf d0,.wait

.1 btst #0,(_custom+vposr+1)
beq .1
.2 btst #0,(_custom+vposr+1)
bne .2

put it everywhere :)
added on the 2010-07-21 14:17:59 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
Apparently inspired by certain Nature/Traktor demos. :) Not that many effects but pretty cool anyway!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 15:14:13 by StingRay StingRay
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 15:31:47 by Grimmy Grimmy
the effects and style rock
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 18:04:45 by dairos dairos
I quite liked it.
Stylish videos.
Some cool effects.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 18:29:17 by Optimus Optimus
More or less what Stingray said. But this influence is a good thing(tm) :).

Thumb suppressed until the Falcon version :D
added on the 2010-07-21 19:40:47 by すすれ すすれ
Love it!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 19:46:31 by xernobyl xernobyl
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 19:47:42 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 19:55:16 by zeebr zeebr
yup, kewl !
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 19:59:39 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 20:15:40 by Quarryman Quarryman
Cool! Great pace, music and googly eyes :D
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 20:44:08 by eladamri eladamri
liked it. cool credits scene.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 21:37:46 by Hyde Hyde
Wow, was expecting some 2nd class compofiller, not this awesome shit! I love it - fantastic colours, lots of original ideas, cool music (although it was a shame to reuse that sample..) and cool effects (blob-thingy especially).. sweet!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 21:42:01 by faaret faaret
those vocals are also used in a d'n'b track that is often played on bassdrive.com...
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 22:17:55 by hooverphonique hooverphonique
liked a lot of moments here, esp tunnel and gun ) overall, it is very cool to see a new ephidrena demo!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 22:40:00 by elfh elfh
Indeed nice one!!!!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-21 22:44:54 by Premium Premium
Falcon version is right around the corner tho, probably along with an Amiga final...

Hmm, nice words, but it reminds me that we're still waiting to see the final version of this production over a year later. Different group, yes I know ;-)

I've seen the video, will wait until we're running it on fuji-badged hardware to give this its deserved thumb.

Just to add a little pressure, I gather that the Ephidrena demo system has been ported over to the CT60, and little birds tell me that some other productions have been made to run on that flavour of Falcy as well ?!
added on the 2010-07-21 22:47:55 by CiH CiH
The 'tough guys' sample is used in a Noisia tune which I first heard on the dance floor here in Trondheim while both Noisia and Frequent by chance were in town. That was awesome :) We used it in Concrete from 1999 and since we are 15 years this was some sort of a backwards reference. We originally got it off a sample cd and I believe the original sample comes from a movie called Thrillseekers. I wanted to have more references to old Darklite and Ephidrena demos really, but it didn't turn out that way in the end.
added on the 2010-07-21 23:15:13 by loaderror loaderror
in, behind and through your face.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 00:38:47 by Gargaj Gargaj
A bit long-winded when watching at home, but ruled the party place. Thumbs up for the title as well :-)
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 00:47:13 by Sesse Sesse
chips don't lie
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 01:26:27 by quisten quisten
really really cool movies and fine oldskool effects.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 02:12:57 by Bobic Bobic
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 02:38:54 by ham ham
fuuuck ooooooooooff!! this is FRESH!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 02:46:08 by spotUP spotUP
I love it! Kicking style!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 05:44:06 by Frost Frost
youtube please ...
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 08:59:43 by nosfe nosfe
really cool demo, stylish as always when it comes to EPH.. The credits parts are a little too long for my taste but everything else rocks.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 10:11:58 by malmix malmix
So. Where is the Falcon version? ;-)
I think the amount of backward reference was just right. Too many would've been easily received a drawback.
But this reminded me of things like Sumolysbryter with new influences.
Good stuff.
Framerate was OK on the 060/50MHz
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 19:33:01 by d0DgE d0DgE
...even more speed, even more action and it would have been a killer! Music is teh best!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 21:15:35 by maytz maytz
very cool. whatgot my attention was the gradient filler. loady: how did you do that? a envmap texture lookup trick or was it real gradient filled vectors?
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 21:17:18 by rudi rudi
sooo sweet. go ephidrena, go!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 21:30:52 by comankh comankh
cool stuff, especially the credits
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 21:38:56 by decca decca
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 21:41:38 by Alpha C Alpha C
@ruderudy : The effect is a voxelball with a smooth heightmap as opposed to the kjøttkakeheightmaps which are more commonl. 64x64 heightmap so it fits in the cache and the colormap is the heightmap offset by 12x12 so I get nice cache hit rate but still have something which looks like shading. Also the effect is in 16 colors so there is some ordered dithering and then there is a subtle overlay made from rice paper to occupy the 4 remaining bitplanes that add some texture. also it has a not so subtle police car.
added on the 2010-07-22 22:07:57 by loaderror loaderror
not so subtle police car
rulezadded on the 2010-07-22 22:41:00 by kusma kusma
playing well
rulezadded on the 2010-07-23 06:53:27 by kempy kempy
Yay, style.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-23 08:30:04 by elend elend
Arg... Don't like the tunnel effect, and the whole style of the demo is just ok, yet I'm a EPH fan. Disappointed :/
added on the 2010-07-23 09:57:48 by Hicks Hicks
Great creds.
The whole thing is too repetitive/boring :/.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-23 16:26:11 by wullon wullon
Cool (not so) realtime effects, and a style that leaves me raped and ravaged
rulezadded on the 2010-07-23 20:41:34 by Duckers Duckers
cool style and fresh ideas!! especially loved the scroller.. skip the policecar next time ;)
rulezadded on the 2010-07-23 22:59:15 by yonx yonx
Will wait with thumbing until there's a final. (Guru #8000000B on A1200-060 128MB after about 15 seconds of loading, if that is useful info?)
added on the 2010-07-24 00:03:21 by Photon Photon
@photon : did you try outside of workbench? might be lack of chipram and also we have a cgx backend, but we haven't tried it on any cgx cards this time so maybe it doesn't work. We use some bitplane fx. I'm not sure how that works with cgx at all even if i believe cgx takes care of all bpl setting and shit.
added on the 2010-07-24 00:09:43 by loaderror loaderror
Not bad from the video capture.
added on the 2010-07-24 23:54:23 by AntDude AntDude
Very nice! =).
added on the 2010-07-24 23:57:00 by 4pLaY 4pLaY
Wooow, very original stuff with cool music.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-25 01:05:23 by jack-3d jack-3d
does not rulez, but is better than is ok
rulezadded on the 2010-07-25 17:57:53 by fishwave/scx fishwave/scx
Just have tried and works under cgx from WB. Some nice parts in it, don't like the vids.
rulezadded on the 2010-07-26 12:14:14 by wayne wayne
Well yeah. Nice sounds and design, video parts little slow. Good package!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-27 01:58:27 by leGend leGend
i like it! the video parts would need some syncronisation tho. but good stuff! :)
rulezadded on the 2010-07-28 15:28:56 by chavez chavez
This is awesome!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-31 00:13:36 by phobium phobium
Very nice ideas and cool style!
rulezadded on the 2010-07-31 10:25:20 by Blueberry Blueberry
rulezadded on the 2010-08-01 00:01:25 by Sir Sir
rulezadded on the 2010-08-03 11:33:54 by superplek superplek
great great great great. great.
rulezadded on the 2010-08-04 10:47:57 by krabob krabob
cgx backend

Dunno about CyberGraphics but the Picasso + Mediator PCI + Voodoo4 config runs it just fine on an RTG screen.
added on the 2010-08-04 11:00:11 by d0DgE d0DgE
Awesome show !
rulezadded on the 2010-08-06 16:07:26 by lsl lsl
rulezadded on the 2010-08-06 16:32:28 by Mystra Mystra
it's so fluo :D
rulezadded on the 2010-08-08 14:36:03 by Spewk Spewk
maybe a bit too lengthy, but apart from that sweet
rulezadded on the 2010-08-09 19:57:50 by toxie toxie
+1 for Music, an agreeable tune
+1 for Models, they reach for the moon
+1 for greets, an imaginative way,
-1 for painting with aerosols that spray.

Final Score: 2. Fun, but not a barnstormer of a Demo.

Still, Rules is rules, and this one gets a thumb. And I go!
rulezadded on the 2010-08-12 23:07:48 by FunkyM FunkyM
rulezadded on the 2010-08-13 01:36:25 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
loaderrorish :D
rulezadded on the 2010-08-14 20:20:43 by Maali Maali

I like the tunnel effect
rulezadded on the 2010-08-16 00:02:16 by nekomono nekomono
design !
rulezadded on the 2010-08-16 00:11:42 by zeroshift zeroshift
rulezadded on the 2010-08-17 09:18:34 by Emod Emod
offcoz amiga!!
rulezadded on the 2010-08-17 13:28:44 by -Exit!- -Exit!-
rulezadded on the 2010-08-19 16:23:34 by Marq Marq
rulezadded on the 2010-09-08 20:21:54 by skan skan
time for a thumb here! very funky stuff
rulezadded on the 2010-09-13 16:51:05 by ԹHΞΞ ԹHΞΞ
rulezadded on the 2010-09-13 18:44:51 by Manwe Manwe
Nice one.
rulezadded on the 2010-12-21 14:51:10 by baah baah
I could read almost all the greetings! :)
rulezadded on the 2012-04-13 23:19:27 by grip grip
Stylish as usual! Tagging roxxx :)
What about the Falcon version? Any news? Hope it gets released soon :D
rulezadded on the 2012-08-29 21:42:53 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
woah i missed this one originally, totally massive, i love it!
rulezadded on the 2015-01-13 17:55:14 by keito keito

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