conference badges and "grass roots demo scene"

category: offtopic [glöplog]
On several occasions Hackaday called the fad of freaky badge design "demo scene". I'm not a purist and accept the wildest things, but somehow this makes me cringe. Other than being a case of grumpy old man being unhappy with the colour of the grass nowadays, what could be the reason for that?
added on the 2018-09-16 14:38:13 by svo svo
I mean if...
- You are a community of people, a "scene"
- You make stuff that demonstrate things
- You have never heard of the demoscene, and/or heard the word but never really cared to find out more
...then I don't see why you wouldn't end up calling your community that, 'cos it's a cool word.
added on the 2018-09-16 14:45:43 by Gargaj Gargaj
I would say Hackaday articles make a lot of people cringe - not only demosceners.
That might be - among other things - due to the quality of research behind some articles.

That plus the rather obvious phenomenon, that as soon you are an expert for something, you notice the little mistakes from non-experts trying to talk about your field of expertise.
added on the 2018-09-16 14:55:28 by las las
Some people think that the demoscene is about political demonstrations.

Things like this:

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added on the 2018-09-16 15:02:55 by Adok Adok
Literally noone thinks that.
added on the 2018-09-16 15:08:49 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: I run into quite some people who asked if a demoparty is about politics.
See? Not everything I say is rubbish.
added on the 2018-09-16 15:52:16 by Adok Adok
Well that's an admission and a half...
added on the 2018-09-16 15:55:56 by Gargaj Gargaj
See? Not everything I say is rubbish.

So you are actually self aware? Great. Now, what about not posting things that you consider rubbish in the first place?
added on the 2018-09-16 16:28:33 by LiSU^TRS LiSU^TRS
It seems you could certainly write demos for a lot of those badges and some of them have interesting hardware configurations. But there are so many of them and you would have a hard time getting one if you didn’t attend any of those (North American) conferences so much of a scene is not likely to emerge/last long.

(I left out that Belgrade badge because I’m a dick.)
added on the 2018-09-16 19:03:22 by El Topo El Topo
@Gargaj it's nice that you're seeing it in a positive light. Demoscene is of course cool and it's flattering. I'll try to lighten up too.

But they are not doing it because they have never heard of the actual demoscene. In some of the previous articles they were much more blunt with this misappropriation, got a bit of kickback in the comments, but obviously weren't convinced otherwise.

I'm questioning myself though, what is it there that I think that I do understand that they don't. Since I'm unable to put it in words well, maybe I'm wrong and they are right? My feeling with this is similar to the famous "BBS: The documentary". I watched it, very interesting, but to me it was like uh? such were the BBS?

Re: the quality of HaD articles, it varies greatly. I mostly name-browse rather than title-browse.
added on the 2018-09-16 19:17:17 by svo svo
I'm relatively indifferent about it because there's not much you can do about it; as long as the word "demoscene" generally stands for what we understand to be the demoscene, anything else will just have to eventually adjust to it. Just gotta make sure we don't go down the path of "machinima".
added on the 2018-09-16 20:25:28 by Gargaj Gargaj
Oo, a soap opera! What path went the machinima people down? Any links or tl;dr's?
added on the 2018-09-16 21:33:25 by skrebbel skrebbel
Just make a demo on it.
Oo, a soap opera! What path went the machinima people down? Any links or tl;dr's?

Nothing saucy, just that the company Machinima has gotten way more popular than the genre machinima itself, so at this stage if you mention it most people think of the company; the company itself used to be a forum / resource who used to make machinima, but then when they turned corporate they basically dropped that focus.
added on the 2018-09-17 10:22:47 by Gargaj Gargaj
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How indeed?
added on the 2018-09-17 15:22:12 by svo svo
just steal her bike, that'll draw her attention!
slightly ot, but all that badge-pr0n on badgeaday gets on my nerves. It feels like every single friggin badge of every conference is praised and dissected. bit too much for my taste.
added on the 2018-09-17 22:44:33 by raer raer
and, yes, all valid demo platforms, but probably nobody will run it on the real hardware (if that mattered nowadays anyway)
added on the 2018-09-17 22:47:26 by raer raer
lol badgeaday. The badges annoy me a bit as such too, they're having fun wrong.
added on the 2018-09-17 23:08:45 by svo svo
So this is not the Depeche Mode fanclub-page? Not true! :O
added on the 2018-09-19 05:56:30 by aqu aqu

Maybe you know, that word demo has it's roots in
word DEMONSTRATION. Demonstration should be some kind
of protest or benefit, which express view or stand.
Effects should just help to express or make all
presentation more interesting for viewers, but

effects are not DEMO!

Maybe I am alone with this stand, but I believe,
that not and so REACT crew will stop producing
"demos" and we will start new begining with producing
added on the 2018-09-19 21:14:39 by hollowman hollowman