is demoparty.net dead for good this time

category: general [glöplog]
I've submitted an edit to demoparty.net about a week ago, written email on contact page, it seems that demoparty.net is dead. was there any alternative built over the years? or is it that we are back to sending ical entries via email??? what the fuck???
added on the 2019-05-04 10:21:11 by randomi randomi
I guess it's just that Poti, the dude that runs demoparty.net, is super busy with getting the Evoke 2019 website done.
As far as i know everything should be back to normal in a few days.
added on the 2019-05-04 10:50:43 by xxx xxx
... honestly, i really like that (demoscene) sprit.
added on the 2019-05-04 11:07:17 by poti poti
the sense of entitlement is strong is this one...
added on the 2019-05-04 11:13:41 by britelite britelite
so you have time to write useless comments on pouet yet you can't hit accept on edit? honestly?

party x leben 4 life
added on the 2019-05-04 11:29:58 by randomi randomi
Thank you, Poti! I hope new evoke website is coming along fine, I wish I could help.
added on the 2019-05-04 11:43:16 by randomi randomi
RIP 24/7 demoparty.net service support! i hope you'll update the SLA!
added on the 2019-05-04 14:46:40 by Maali Maali
sense of entitlements aside, demoparty.net has been suffering from neglect for quite a few years now and different people (me included) have poked poti about it to either open source it, or figure out some sort of rewrite that would allow for the community to help maintain it instead of relying on poti to be available on demand when something needs fix/update.

the conclusion was mostly that it might aswell get rewritten from the ground up with integrated sceneID support and a mobile friendly version.

so it's just waiting for _someone_ to pick up that challenge i guess. but the gasman's and gargaj's and dfox's of the demoscene who typically step up to create yet another scene useful webpage have been a bit busy with other projects lately. anyone else feels like redoing a website? no? then please wait patiently for poti to have some free time to show demoparty.net some love again. :)
added on the 2019-05-04 17:34:12 by psenough psenough
sense of entitlements aside, demoparty.net has been suffering from neglect for quite a few years now and different people (me included) have poked poti about it to either open source it

T-101 has the the source (as do I) and has been working on a next-gen version.
added on the 2019-05-04 17:40:48 by Gargaj Gargaj
Couple more thoughts:
- Name 5 active, available, competent web designers in the scene - you can't. This is actually a serious bottleneck for starting new sites or redoing old ones.
- A site can be built as well as possible if there's no staff behind it to operate it. I have no idea who's on the dpnet staff aside from Poti and Truck, and two isn't much compared to a party being held every weekend.
- I've contributed a few fixes to the site and added some API-like things which e.g. the Darklite Partywiki runs on now, but currently the site isn't great to maintain - it relies on two separate frameworks at the same time, and there's no CI either (not that Pouet has any, admittedly) so Poti has to push all fixes to live.

I've made a mockup a few months ago to T-101 as to how I can imagine a next generation of the site look like, and he said he'd venture to build a new site based on that, but he'd still need a considerable amount of design and maintenance help with that, so if this thread can bring out a few people who can help with that, I'm sure that'll help the process.
added on the 2019-05-04 17:58:01 by Gargaj Gargaj
Yes, this is true. I've started with a very preliminary mock up of the database structure and trying things. Not much but it's start. Just been somewhat busy with this nuisance called real life.

I have talked with diskrim/trsi, who was interested in doing a design and frontend, while I concentrate more on the db and API.

As mentioned before and seeing as it's 2019, it will definately be mobile friendly. I recently did the new darklite partywiki, and while I am nowhere as good as gasman, I can actually pull stuff like this off. The underlying tech will be python 3 and django 2, just like demozoo and the partywiki.

Help will be wanted, needed and appreciated once we get this thing moving forward.
added on the 2019-05-04 18:29:38 by T-101 T-101
great news! feel free to ping me when you need some hands testing or doing basic bugfixes t-101
added on the 2019-05-04 18:37:37 by psenough psenough
I'm actually quite happy with the ical from demoparty.net. Works wonders. Thanks!
added on the 2019-05-04 20:26:23 by numtek numtek