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Amiga recommendations?

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Might be neat to dualboot Win9x or DOS, if that's possible on those.

A bridgeboard is basically a separate PC on a card. If I remember correctly it runs DOS or Windows at the same time as the Amiga OS runs on the 68k, so there's no need to dual boot. If that's what you meant by putting an x86 in an Amiga, sure you can do that.
added on the 2019-05-25 00:22:05 by absence absence
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Might be neat to dualboot Win9x or DOS, if that's possible on those.

A bridgeboard is basically a separate PC on a card. If I remember correctly it runs DOS or Windows at the same time as the Amiga OS runs on the 68k, so there's no need to dual boot. If that's what you meant by putting an x86 in an Amiga, sure you can do that.


if I can switch between them, that'd lead to shenanigans, most likely.
added on the 2019-05-25 00:24:13 by Parzival Parzival
added on the 2019-05-25 00:34:19 by absence absence


EXACTLY THIS.
added on the 2019-05-25 15:31:55 by Parzival Parzival
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Do not try to fix your disks using DiskDoctor.

LAZARUS!!! Worked once for me and created a proper Lazarus disk...
added on the 2019-05-25 16:17:57 by Ok3anos Ok3anos
Maybe worth watching if you are seriously interested in x86 on Amiga: Deadline Demoparty 2018 - Charlie Seminar: How to turn your Amiga into MS-DOS PC
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Maybe worth watching if you are seriously interested in x86 on Amiga: Deadline Demoparty 2018 - Charlie Seminar: How to turn your Amiga into MS-DOS PC
Not necessarily just that, but doing so would give me access to all kinds of stupid shit I could do, so it's got me kinda excited.
added on the 2019-05-25 19:30:59 by Parzival Parzival
It would be less of a hassle to get a genuine oldskool DOS PC, really. Probably easier to find than x86 boards for Amiga, too.
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It would be less of a hassle to get a genuine oldskool DOS PC, really. Probably easier to find than x86 boards for Amiga, too.
I'm a huge fan of trying the weirdest shit. The entire point of getting one of these bridgeboards is to see what weird shit I could do between the 486 and Amiga.

So, so far my shopping list is this:
* Amiga 2000
* Extra RAM, if not already included
* 486 bridgeboard
* Probably some other misc. stuff
* Probably the stuff for a recap
added on the 2019-05-25 21:35:54 by Parzival Parzival
My point is that if you are just about to get into retro Amiga / DOS hardware, it may be sensible to start out simple with easy-to-obtain parts. I didn't look it up but a full 486 computer + A500 might be much cheaper and easier to find than one of those bridge boards plus everything else required for it. If you really want to, you can still try to find one later but quite honestly I wouldn't make it a #1 priority, in particular if you have no experience with the subject.
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My point is that if you are just about to get into retro Amiga / DOS hardware, it may be sensible to start out simple with easy-to-obtain parts. I didn't look it up but a full 486 computer + A500 might be much cheaper and easier to find than one of those bridge boards plus everything else required for it. If you really want to, you can still try to find one later but quite honestly I wouldn't make it a #1 priority, in particular if you have no experience with the subject.
That's... a fair point, actually. Stock A500 or A2000 plus more RAM, then.
added on the 2019-05-26 00:08:00 by Parzival Parzival
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added on the 2019-05-26 00:35:43 by _10b0 _10b0
Okay, I've been day-dreaming about this for a while, but never really researched what it would take to make it a reality: what's the ultimate Video Toaster setup? A tower case Amiga + the Toaster card, but which Amiga? Any useful expansions to this setup?

I think the Video Toaster still has potential for video editing, and I would like to study its transitions & other FX, possibly to replicate some of them on modern platforms. I just don't know what the ideal setup for such a video editing workstation would be!
added on the 2019-05-26 10:54:15 by appas appas
I have no personal experience, so these are just some points from reading about it back in the day. The latest version is the Video Toaster 4000, which takes advantage of Amiga 4000 features. There's also the Video Toaster Flyer expansion, which adds non-linear editing. If you're in Europe, do note that Video Toaster products only support NTSC, not PAL. The source code for most of the Video Toaster software is available if you want to study it.
added on the 2019-05-26 11:27:12 by absence absence
NewTek still produce appliance-type systems for live broadcast editing and effects, pretty sure they can do whatever the toaster could, effects-wise, and more.
added on the 2019-05-26 21:26:12 by grip grip
* Amiga 2000
* Extra RAM, if not already included
* 486 bridgeboard
* Probably some other misc. stuff
* Probably the stuff for a recap

sounds pretty good!
added on the 2019-05-26 21:30:20 by gentleman gentleman
If you want to get a proper oldskool experience, buy an A500 and a CRT monitor and watch demos and Eurocharts. And then make some effects with Asmone following Photon's video tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p83QUZ1-P10
added on the 2019-05-26 22:15:16 by yzi yzi
What CRT or other display model would you recommend? Commodore 1084?
added on the 2019-05-26 23:42:42 by merkur merkur
The 1084 is pretty much the "official" Amiga 500 monitor. However, it exists in countless variants, with CRT from different manufacturers, so any monitor with similar specs will probably do the trick, as long as you can hook it up via RGB. The 1084 screen is quite small by modern standards, which may or may not be a blessing, considering the bulk and weight of a CRT.
added on the 2019-05-27 00:44:14 by absence absence
Or Amiga "official" M1438S monitor which is multisync and can display both standard modes and all the other high res, non-flickering ones.
added on the 2019-05-27 17:42:41 by rutra80 rutra80
The Amiga branded M1438S (produced by Microvitec) was introduced by Amiga Technologies after the bankruptcy of Commodore for use with the Amiga 1200 and its higher resolution modes. It will work with an Amiga 500, but the CRT has different specs from the Commodore 1084, so the picture could look different (not sure by how much).
added on the 2019-05-27 20:58:14 by absence absence
I had both and never had concerns regarding different displays, except that M1438S might have problems filling whole screen while keeping proportions in some modes.
added on the 2019-05-27 21:08:14 by rutra80 rutra80
I've seen reports that the M1438S CRT's much finer dot pitch results in a sharper image, so low resolution output (from e.g. Amiga 500) looks more blocky/pixelated than on a 1024. I haven't compared them myself, but a similar effect is noticeable on PC VGA monitors, although low resolutions have twice the number of scan lines in that case.
added on the 2019-05-27 21:23:21 by absence absence
It is like that in ~30kHz DblPAL & DblNTSC modes, in classic ~15kHz PAL & NTSC are properly scanlined : )
added on the 2019-05-27 23:25:22 by rutra80 rutra80
Yes, I was talking about PC VGA for comparison. Anyway, the point is that some people perceive the M1438S CRT's sharper image as more pixelated than video monitors like the 1084, so I thought it's a caveat worth mentioning for those who want the traditional low resolution experience.
added on the 2019-05-28 12:32:33 by absence absence

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