Question to you web tech guys about 3D... make me earn my bread.

category: general [glöplog]
Make my job easier: what's the state of 3D on the web?
Can flash already display 3D without software rendering shits? Or is it better to use java?
added on the 2008-04-19 17:08:20 by xernobyl xernobyl
The only reasonable 3D renderer for flash is Papervision and it's still software rendering with many limitations. Java has OpenGL bindings.
added on the 2008-04-19 17:14:40 by masterm masterm
there is another 3d flash engine which seems to be a lot better than papervision

added on the 2008-04-19 17:16:57 by zatom zatom
VRML2, java3d, papervision
added on the 2008-04-19 17:18:25 by raer raer
emzic: wow! that's really nice engine. is it available for free? (i can't see any download link).
added on the 2008-04-19 17:20:57 by masterm masterm
I think shockwave has 3d acceleration, not sure how much it's used though
added on the 2008-04-19 17:25:53 by psonice psonice
Is that flash 3d engine free? I couldn't understand from the page.

Java is probably better for what I want. I will assume that everyone has java and flash on their computers.
added on the 2008-04-19 17:35:30 by xernobyl xernobyl
mmmh Alternativa improved a lot since last time I checked it.

Honestly if I were to to 3D, not in JS, I'd go for Flash 9 as almost everyone have it unlike other plugins or a specific JVM.
added on the 2008-04-19 17:37:37 by p01 p01
added on the 2008-04-19 17:43:31 by bdk bdk
I'm not really interested in web technology but I always wonder why Flash hasn't got any proper 3D acceleration support yet. Watching those software engines in Flash is like going back 12 years in time, they make my eyes hurt.
added on the 2008-04-19 18:45:39 by ithaqua ithaqua
because they probably dont wanna burn their fingers on portability gaps, even when using smth like opengl.
added on the 2008-04-19 18:50:00 by Maali Maali
Adobe is going HW with Hydra aka Flash 10, and they seem to support some sort of pixel shaders.
added on the 2008-04-19 18:52:40 by p01 p01
Unlike Flash, the Shockwave browser plugin is not available for Linux or Solaris despite vocal lobbying efforts.
added on the 2008-04-19 18:58:06 by xernobyl xernobyl
*cough* just use unity *cough*
added on the 2008-04-19 19:24:22 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
flash! http://blog.alternativaplatform.com/ru/files/2008/04/bunker.swf

Trace can probably say few words about 3d on the web...
added on the 2008-04-19 19:28:41 by iq iq
I've some stuff on his blog or page or something about the issue.
added on the 2008-04-19 19:41:42 by xernobyl xernobyl
Also worth looking are SWFZ and SANDY
added on the 2008-04-19 21:22:52 by p01 p01
heh when i was reading cyberpunk books (and watching cyberpunk movies) in the 90s i thought that webbrowsing in the 2000s would be all through 3D interfaces :>

who will finally bring pouet3D to teh world ?
added on the 2008-04-19 22:06:05 by Zest Zest
Pogo Browser
Well, not exactly full 3D but quite nice GUI. Too bad it's hardware requirements are ridiculously high - 2GB of RAM and 256MB VRAM!. I think people will stop complaining about firefox being bloated. ;)
added on the 2008-04-19 22:18:55 by masterm masterm
Pogo has some neat ideas but they seem lost in all the useless bells and whistles.
added on the 2008-04-19 22:32:53 by p01 p01
flash! http://blog.alternativaplatform.com/ru/files/2008/04/bunker.swf

is it me or the PoV is totally wrong on this one?
added on the 2008-04-19 22:53:38 by LiraNuna LiraNuna
FoV* sorry
added on the 2008-04-19 22:53:47 by LiraNuna LiraNuna
are shockwave apps allowed to do any TCP/IP communications?
added on the 2008-04-20 00:15:58 by yesso yesso