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category: offtopic [glöplog]
Saga Musix,
I think thec is after per-post intra-thread off-topic. So if someone happened to post an unrelated pony image, for instance, that post could be marked as off-topic and would be by default hidden.

Also, top level threads can be marked as offtopic or residue.
Saga: This is in a single individual posts in a thread. But whatever...
added on the 2013-05-13 23:46:16 by thec thec
Ah, alright. Didn't read that part properly.
thec: LOL!
Censorship I smell in that intra-thread "off-topic mark" idea.

Who will decide when something is "off-topic"?

I don't like that idea but I have other to propose...

It would be great if TOO BIG pictures where collapsed automatically (but not for all users, that should be a configurable option like "hide big pictures").

That way, users who think that BIG ponies are little ponies would not annoy too much.
added on the 2013-05-14 00:47:48 by ham ham
ERRATAS:

Where collapsed -> were collapsed.

BIG ponies -> BIG horses.
added on the 2013-05-14 00:53:22 by ham ham
BiG horses -> big axtravaganzeeeeees!
(no idea! eeeehrm, what was the topic again?)
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added on the 2013-05-14 01:23:45 by mog mog
re: thec - how about thumb up / down feature for forum posts and hiding by default all the posts that have negative thumbs. i.e. the standard +1/-1 feature on pretty much any modern website that allows commenting...

btw. glad to see the debate resolved. friendship is magic, indeed!
added on the 2013-05-14 08:32:27 by melw melw
Just to be clear, the comments were not removed, you could always view them by clicking them... it's just a way to avoid topics going to far down the road :)
added on the 2013-05-14 08:57:46 by thec thec
So, basically all posts are off-topic, except for thec’s. Sounds like a discussion I want to be a part of!
added on the 2013-05-14 09:21:01 by Bombe Bombe
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re: thec - how about thumb up / down feature for forum posts and hiding by default all the posts that have negative thumbs. i.e. the standard +1/-1 feature on pretty much any modern website that allows commenting...

Agree on this, however I'd have a personal settings with the hiding threshold (i.e.: hide posts with score less than 'x'), not necessarily zero.

Also, posts should be just hidden (with a 'click to show' toggle or something), not completely ignored.
added on the 2013-05-14 09:32:57 by Jcl Jcl
What's the actual value of having replies in a thread hidden? I mean, the ACTUAL value? Aren't all these systems just a method of discouraging trolling, and not really a tool for the vast majority of users? In absolutely most cases, having the entire conversation is preferable -- even despite randomness in some posts -- because the reader just skims past them quickly. Considering Pouet only have about four or five genuine trolls, I don't really see the need to make the UX more complicated just to address what is really a non-issue.
added on the 2013-05-14 10:50:02 by gloom gloom
hn has a feature where users can be banned without them knowing about it. Their posts appear to themselves, but not to others.
added on the 2013-05-14 10:53:28 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Comment rating via +/- buttons IS a tool for the vast majority of users. Even more so, other responsible Pouet users help getting off-topic and trollish comments out of the way.

If you want to see ALL the comments, set your hiding threshold to something like -666, and if you think person XYZ gets upvoted much, but you still don't wanna see their posts you can still use an ignore function.

I'd bet with reasonable default thresholds lots of users wouldn't even have to use ignore lists or adjust forum settings, making it easier instead of more complicated.

tl;dr: what thec, melw and Jcl said.
added on the 2013-05-14 11:04:51 by ted ted
Imagine when this would have been active for this thread already, we'd have never seen Analogues replies :)
We're all grown ups, just do a RL ignore - gosh, ppl these days..

Oh and this comment would have been sent into oblivion as well, because it's offtopic.
added on the 2013-05-14 11:10:41 by mog mog
oh, and (belated) major props to all involved in turning this thread from shitfest to something rather productive, especially (but not exclusively) analogue and gargaj.

<3
added on the 2013-05-14 11:11:01 by ted ted
ted: a tool to do what? I mean: what is the upside? Setting individual thresholds for when things are shown or not, so that some posts appear to some, but not to others? That's sort of the worst possible way to moderate a public forum - especially one that doesn't necessary need it. It reeks of over-engineering, and it will be underutilized as well. If there is to be a threshold, it should be the same for everyone, so that everyone has the same grounds for discussion, and so that discussion doesn't become fragmented.
added on the 2013-05-14 11:11:05 by gloom gloom
gloom: fair point, but don't personal ignore lists do the same as well?
added on the 2013-05-14 11:13:56 by ted ted
..but I don't feel it's needed at all. A per-thread definition is fine - for example: I don't show "Residue"-threads on the front-page of Pouet, and it works wonders to keep shit out. :)
added on the 2013-05-14 11:15:00 by gloom gloom
ted: yeah, I'm not a fan of those either. I think the per-thread category is more than enough, really. Pouet doesn't really have a trolling problem.
added on the 2013-05-14 11:15:48 by gloom gloom
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how about thumb up / down feature for forum posts and hiding by default all the posts that have negative thumbs. i.e. the standard +1/-1 feature on pretty much any modern website


And it's a perfect feature for trolls. On a YouTube-Channel from a friend of mine some trolls hide every normal comment by disliking it multiple times and he cannot do anything against it. So I think I am against this feature.
added on the 2013-05-14 11:17:12 by gaspode gaspode
There is already a "troll"-setting per user, set by the admins too, if I'm not mistaken.

I remember that a solution for fake-accounts (which is really a bigger issue) was discussed at some point. Like: all new accounts have a block on them to start new threads for two weeks, and a max-post limit per day, which expires. If indeed a +/- system for comments is to be implemented, it's value would probably lie in community-moderating good comments, but not actively hiding them.
added on the 2013-05-14 11:18:48 by gloom gloom
Let's add karma, and call pouet proddit - le done °_o
added on the 2013-05-14 11:21:33 by mog mog

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