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screenshot added by Pulsar on 2007-04-08 17:59:29
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release date : april 2007
release party : The Gathering 2007
compo : combined demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 73%
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alltime top: #316
added on the 2007-04-08 17:07:12 by magic magic

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love to see you try a sinister theme!
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 17:14:55 by stOPHER2 stOPHER2
I dont get it why the b/w "almost looks like a bug" stuff in between scenes?

ati x700 1gb ram 3,2ghz here..

pig for now..
added on the 2007-04-08 17:24:15 by magic magic
Nice, other style.
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 17:37:47 by cerror cerror
Whoa, i liked it!
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 17:38:14 by Pegan Pegan
great production, nice loading screen ;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 18:02:55 by keito keito
outracks goes mfx -- i like it :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 18:09:46 by gloom gloom
Nice one.
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 18:16:51 by knox knox
really really cool effects, but the b/w only looks bad and almost destroys the demo
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 18:54:40 by hollowman hollowman
is there a video capture somewhere ?
added on the 2007-04-08 19:01:11 by p01 p01
Liked this one. Nice way of displaying things
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 19:04:45 by mSW mSW
Best Outracks demo since Synthematik. Really cool effects, style, pace and music.
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 19:19:04 by ithaqua ithaqua
Perfect.
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 19:31:57 by iks iks
Oh man, this would have been a kickass demo if it wasn't for that flashing dotmatrix overlay. That was more annoying and uglier than Stefan's inbred love child!

Well, maybe not that bad, but the demo would have been awesome without it!

Great explosive right in yar face effects and i love the various rendering stuff. Kickass demo!
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 20:07:38 by Zplex Zplex
Excellent! Good thing you got it finished in time;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 22:38:06 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
This is pure fun and in-your-face-style. But I didn't get the bw "dithering" thing.
rulez added on the 2007-04-08 23:00:40 by datsua datsua
Very Good!
Deserved to win the demo compo.
Some really sweet effects in there!
And awesome music as well.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 01:21:07 by vame vame
I'd like an option to turn of the half-tone style stuff that just got in the way, looked nice othewise, way too short though. Only just a thumb from me.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 10:29:40 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
Really nice! :D
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 11:41:59 by rc55 rc55
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 11:44:24 by Cj Cj
fucking good demo!!! worthy winner!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 12:00:24 by zeebr zeebr
oh, what have you created!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 12:11:10 by dila dila
really impressive - dark and strong!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 12:24:06 by ck ck
I agree, the black&white pixelate postprocessing is killing the demo, you can use it in some parts, but syncing it with the beat kind of destroys everything a bit. Overall is cool tho.
added on the 2007-04-09 14:27:17 by mrdoob mrdoob
duckers! you are the best!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 15:09:21 by oldaccount oldaccount
worthy winner indeed! Good shit duckers. allthought really not the style I enjoy the most I CAN enjoy this!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 15:15:12 by Proteque Proteque
Runs very smooth over here! Another great production from one of my fave pc demogroups! Thanx a lot Duckers + Irvin!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 15:24:34 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Mmm,. mm,.. overally plus. Not the best Outracks demo, that C64 pixelizing is kinda confusing even though I find it funny, even though it didn't let me to stare the nice shiny surfaces ;). But kool, overall kool even though I still prefer their previous releases..
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 15:55:50 by Optimus Optimus
Interesting.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 16:15:48 by Osmic Osmic
3417.80 Euros the demo.
added on the 2007-04-09 18:42:52 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Cute
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 19:16:47 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
A high quality production as usuall, but it was too much of the dithering effect in my opinion.. Anyway, good stuff :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 22:55:53 by morten morten
Go die in a ditch, hitchhikr.

Good demo with great music. The dithering was a bit overused, I'd love to see it completely off for some scenes.


rulez added on the 2007-04-10 03:09:11 by lug00ber lug00ber
well if that is true what hitchhikr said i give thumb up :) money runs the world. hope you buy nuff coke =)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 08:40:27 by uns3en_ uns3en_
great stuff!
best outracks demo so far imo and really looking forward to more now :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 12:24:43 by psenough psenough
Makes my man-boobs OK. :-) (I agree about the overused dithering.)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 13:43:31 by Sesse Sesse
super sync'ed effects! Outracks quality as usual :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 14:30:30 by Zest Zest
I totally agree with ithaqua! Best demo since Synthematik :) Great syncing and visual goodies.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 15:23:06 by Zeila Zeila
A solid thumbs up for the parts not hidden by the well-commented, allmighty, dithering-thingy:)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 16:03:41 by St.Genius St.Genius
Good job.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 17:37:48 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
this totally rocks. great visuals and lots of power.
added on the 2007-04-10 17:37:54 by prm prm
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 17:38:42 by prm prm
Great trip!
I just don't like the tornado. The top part should rotate slower than the bottom part, my brain doesn't like that.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 17:43:28 by xernobyl xernobyl
you could have made a better screenshot, magic. anyway, here is the source code, for anyone who might be interested: http://www.outracks.net/files/outracks_gamma_src.rar . It requires Frontend 1.2.0 to compile. Fetch it from frontend.outracks.net
added on the 2007-04-10 21:15:05 by Duckers Duckers
yep, it's rocking my boat :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 21:22:24 by kusma kusma
really great
indeed, too bad there's the b/w overlay
what? someone made a good demo to win lots of prize money? oh noes!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 03:53:33 by phoenix phoenix
Congratulations with 1st place!
added on the 2007-04-11 05:03:39 by Hyde Hyde
Awesome demo. Phat in yer face visuals and sweet soundtrack. Rulez. Two thumbs up!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 08:31:31 by aMUSiC aMUSiC
Nice one. Lisää rasteria!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 08:36:56 by break break
Du er sykt produktiv :-)
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 11:49:59 by lorents lorents
ok ok, some nice moments.
-- dithering.
anyway rulez
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 13:07:21 by wie8 wie8
Cool effects.
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 13:09:20 by Preacher Preacher
cool
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 13:52:32 by pasy pasy
pretty awesome
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 18:03:18 by dairos dairos
absolutely.
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 20:38:50 by keith303 keith303
absolutely!
added on the 2007-04-11 20:41:47 by keith303 keith303
Great effects and nice music put together in a very delicious way. I think this is my favourite Outracks demo this far :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 22:51:20 by teel teel
/// OUTRACKS
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 23:21:58 by aha aha
Unique visuals, kickass soundtrack... You simply rule.
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 13:36:36 by remageFrs remageFrs
very nice. i especially liked the loading screen. :) nice work!
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 22:43:11 by blackpawn blackpawn
Duh, GF7+ only... looked pretty great on the bigscreen though - might be a possible "demo of the year"
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 23:11:36 by T$ T$
TS: in theroy it needs just gf5+ or radeon9600+, but you might get slow performance if its a low-end card.
added on the 2007-04-12 23:15:15 by Duckers Duckers
Some nice effects and music-sync. I did not like the pixelisation though.

Returned to a black desktop at the end of the demo (6600 GT ForceWare 9131 + Win XP). Any idea Duckers? I encountered issues with some of my opengl stuff as well recently when exiting.
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 03:21:27 by keops keops
Very nice demo indeed. Goes to my top ten list of newskool demos :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 14:31:39 by pahamoka pahamoka
I like this a lot.
Go Outracks Go!!
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 22:07:27 by bdk bdk
any video/kkapture ?
added on the 2007-04-14 21:41:04 by p01 p01
Cool demo and nice soundtrack ... the "textmode" effect is a bit annoying tho
rulez added on the 2007-04-14 22:01:44 by shock__ shock__
gimme a video and I thumb this up blind :)
added on the 2007-04-14 22:04:39 by thec thec
soundtrack kicks butt!
rulez added on the 2007-04-15 09:50:46 by chromag chromag
very nice!
rulez added on the 2007-04-15 09:53:41 by shadez shadez
Cool demo.
nice trax and cool fx.
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 06:06:55 by got got
Stop releasing your source code duckers! It doesn't make sense copying your effects when we got the source! :(
added on the 2007-04-16 17:53:20 by lorents lorents
best outracks demo yet! no doubt, keeps getting better and better. horray
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 18:25:12 by quisten quisten
cool stuff! best outracks' so far :-D
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 23:42:00 by mortzERR mortzERR
added on the 2007-04-17 10:24:53 by Quarryman Quarryman
great style
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 11:02:28 by dwarf dwarf
Totally cool demo with some original ideas. Cool music as well. Great.
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 11:10:34 by StingRay StingRay
Very nice !
rulezcdc added on the 2007-04-17 18:47:44 by Anat Anat
explosions out of nowhere 2007!
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 18:59:09 by loaderror loaderror
the b&w distortion thing is kick ass
0.57721566490153286060651209
rulez added on the 2007-04-18 00:48:22 by termos termos
niiice explosions. soundtrack is a bit dull, imho.
rulez added on the 2007-04-18 12:29:38 by a-move a-move
kkapture, anyone?
added on the 2007-04-18 19:04:58 by ferris ferris
rulez added on the 2007-04-21 19:41:37 by ton ton
Nice effects - i especially liked the tree-part and the hairy thing in the end, cool explosions and dithering too.
rulez added on the 2007-04-25 23:40:57 by svok svok
Black particles + smoke effects remind me of mfx. Last scene was great...
rulez added on the 2007-04-25 23:59:01 by suorm suorm
Please please kkapture somebody.. please
added on the 2007-04-27 10:37:33 by Navis Navis
very dynamic.
rulez added on the 2007-04-27 10:49:06 by src src
I love the tree!
rulez added on the 2007-05-01 16:06:24 by Mystra Mystra
Top demo. It would attract lots of cdcs and thumbs if it weren't for the fact that it came out in a very busy month.

rulez added on the 2007-05-02 15:30:00 by Navis Navis
Nice, but I don't like b/w mode switches.
rulez added on the 2007-05-05 14:10:16 by Lazarus Lazarus
rulez added on the 2007-05-05 14:48:04 by p01 p01
wow! this totally blew me away!
a worthy winner!
and it runs perfectly smooth here..
rulez added on the 2007-05-06 22:03:17 by v3nom v3nom
impressive and very enjoyable!
rulez added on the 2007-05-08 00:21:47 by sam sam
Excellent! Nice trip with Outracks !
rulez added on the 2007-05-10 23:00:29 by robpaine robpaine
rulez added on the 2007-05-10 23:22:52 by wb wb
It's like "in your face math boy!". I like!
rulez added on the 2007-05-19 20:37:14 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Great postproduction filter, I like "tree" effect and "tornado". Powerdemo and a worthy winner!
rulez added on the 2007-05-19 22:33:54 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
the nipple-ripper tornado and the dreadlock tetrapod were pretty cool. post-filter was ok but got on my nerves after a while. cool track.
rulez added on the 2007-05-21 20:28:31 by earx earx
Love it, love it, love it.
rulez added on the 2007-05-30 08:10:08 by Nutman^IRIS Nutman^IRIS
The video capture is pretty low quality, we need a better encode ;)
The flowing tree effect and tetra-thing were awesome. Great pace and music. Extra kudos for releasing the sources.
rulez added on the 2007-06-01 00:02:24 by Nezbie Nezbie
thanks for this big show! and the music wuuhh.. one of my favorite demo musics i think :)
rulez added on the 2007-06-01 22:36:05 by fiveofive fiveofive
I enjoyed the show.
rulez added on the 2007-06-01 22:42:08 by Shockwave Shockwave
IMHO, this is very innovative prod. I don’t even know what to call the simulated digital artifacting and transitional noise, but it’s a really cool effect that for a second made me thing LCD was shot. Furthermore, the music, like the effect, takes the standard techno demo tune and infuses it with a neat, off kilter beat that works beautifully with the demos tight pacing and synchronization.

There have been a bunch of great demos as of late, this is one of the best.
rulez added on the 2007-06-08 00:35:02 by makfu makfu
Damn good music. Awesome demo.
rulez added on the 2007-06-28 20:54:47 by scg_ scg_
I just love that dirt & noise style. Good soundtrack + some mindblowing effects. Rulez hard.
rulez added on the 2007-07-01 12:21:02 by Drunken_Poet Drunken_Poet
What makfu said... this and Debris on the same weekend, it's like the icing on the demo-cake! :-)
rulez added on the 2007-07-24 23:08:45 by Stebo Stebo
great
rulez added on the 2007-07-29 00:49:12 by gentleman gentleman
Great design, partly a bit boring, but still awesome.
rulez added on the 2007-08-10 11:12:10 by fishwave/scx fishwave/scx
Great style. Nice "visual synthesis" duckers, liked it very much.
rulez added on the 2007-08-10 11:31:11 by auld auld
an excellent prod
rulez added on the 2007-09-10 21:33:49 by bfx bfx
I can't keep myself from playing the music over and over. With full bass it's pure sexyness.
rulez added on the 2007-09-15 12:08:43 by Nichevo Nichevo
Have to give thumbs up for the music and the tree effect + last scene. I did not like the rest too much - maybe the horrible post proc shaders ruined it for me ;)
rulez added on the 2007-09-15 12:31:24 by coma coma
rulez added on the 2007-09-22 16:48:25 by #535 #535
rulez added on the 2007-09-22 22:02:31 by texel texel
this was a rather nice surprise! the abundance of energy in this one is hard to not like. i only wish outracks would get themselves a decent designer for all the 2d stuff -- fonts and logos look like from the ugly type day '98 :(
rulez added on the 2007-09-25 18:25:19 by monroe monroe
yeah! the tree scene made me shiver, almost like a drugtrip! and i liked the dithering. thank you very much for this great work.
rulez added on the 2007-10-06 16:57:53 by elfh elfh
Very good.
rulez added on the 2007-10-11 23:36:14 by Maissi Maissi
I LOVE this one!!

Ran beautifully on my GF 8500 GT.
rulez added on the 2007-12-27 02:12:43 by ferris ferris
Rocks
rulez added on the 2008-01-06 06:15:42 by Buckethead Buckethead
Thumbs up!
rulez added on the 2008-01-23 23:44:25 by zefyros zefyros
good effects, excellent soundtrack
rulez added on the 2008-02-23 12:50:54 by dipswitch dipswitch
very good soundtrack, well timed, nice effects, it's a thumb for you boys.
beauty // fast.
rulez added on the 2008-02-27 15:21:58 by comankh comankh
Stunning soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2008-02-28 22:34:36 by willbe willbe
a good prod.
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 02:58:24 by praetor_alpha praetor_alpha
impressive..
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 18:09:18 by mad mad
awesome!
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 18:39:56 by jamcar jamcar
very good
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 19:15:45 by Quarryman Quarryman
this is fucking brilliant! no, seriously...!

one of my top 3 PC demos!
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 01:28:01 by button button
This is amazing!
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 04:00:51 by LSnK LSnK
Excellent prod. Grats on the soundtrack award, well deserved :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 08:24:13 by eladamri eladamri
duckers looks like Scarlett Johanssen.
but he rocks much more harder than she!
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 08:31:47 by sq sq
good good good good good
rulez added on the 2008-04-17 15:41:09 by Gaia Gaia
congratulations to irvin for well deserved best soundtrack award!
If I could double thumb it, I would have!
added on the 2008-04-17 15:42:06 by vame vame
the music kickass ~!!
rulez added on the 2008-05-05 13:59:07 by panic panic
MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSIC!
damn this is fucking great! :D
rulez added on the 2008-05-23 23:26:28 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
really nice prod with a good music, effects and synchros. i'm only disappointed by the Black and white pixelate filtering too present in the demo imho.
rulez added on the 2008-05-27 22:05:21 by u2 u2
Amazing work - music, design and code all coming together...
rulez added on the 2008-06-24 19:19:23 by d3pth d3pth
Pixelshaded to death, but very cool nonetheless. :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-25 14:56:29 by tomaes tomaes
Amazing work - music, design and code all coming together...
rulez added on the 2008-08-26 16:33:48 by Baz Baz
Very thriving! But I still have an impression that somewhat important is missing...
rulez added on the 2008-10-13 11:08:45 by jovanni jovanni
jovanni: you are surely talking about cubes
rulez added on the 2008-10-13 11:13:13 by gr9yfox gr9yfox
visuals were mostly average all the time so the thumb comes from the music.
rulez added on the 2008-11-22 11:27:56 by pommak pommak
if Synthematik was Images and Words, this is Scenes from a Memory.
rulez added on the 2008-11-22 11:47:57 by Gargaj Gargaj
Grey is still looking so beautiful!
rulez added on the 2008-11-23 00:35:07 by untel untel
Yeah! This is how a demo should be! Immensely enjoyable!
rulez added on the 2008-11-23 00:42:04 by Blueberry Blueberry
I cant stop rewatching this one, its just soo incredibly well put together and I still "love" that effect with the tree pulsating, it looks soo good. But really Blueberry said all in fewer words ;)
rulez added on the 2008-12-03 22:10:43 by extralife extralife
Rated Ok because I decided the music was good and not just, well, 'OK'. The visual aspects are not impressive though, it's feels too repetitive and technically simple.
added on the 2008-12-11 18:09:21 by neglesaks neglesaks
Fucking good... Music rocks, same thing with the direction...
rulez added on the 2008-12-14 13:37:34 by Ized Ized
yep, it's good
rulez added on the 2008-12-14 15:20:50 by psykon psykon
hell yes!
rulez added on the 2008-12-14 16:00:02 by Alpha C Alpha C
excelente :)
rulez added on the 2008-12-17 01:46:40 by qwesza qwesza
awsumz!
rulez added on the 2009-01-06 21:40:05 by yandexx yandexx
As some said, love the "b&w beat effect", the tree part is beautiful and the music fits perfectly with the fast action. One of my favorite "recent" demos.
rulez added on the 2009-01-31 23:19:08 by kyapiko kyapiko
just wow!
rulez added on the 2009-01-31 23:40:02 by Dano Dano
yes. fuck you for being so good.
rulez added on the 2009-02-01 00:05:50 by thec thec
awesome
rulez added on the 2009-02-26 16:26:45 by vestige vestige
ok, I am _really_ sorry but I have to express an unpopular opinion now: this would be kick ass without that annoying b/w-post-proc.-flashing stuff in it. it destroyed the demo for me _entirely_, ...with which I mean that I never ever tend to watch it again, even if there is pretty good stuff in it. And I can´t hold back that opinion just because of the general outcome of the votings here so far.
sucks added on the 2009-03-04 23:50:00 by SiR SiR
rulez!
rulez added on the 2009-03-12 21:49:21 by RRROAR RRROAR
The demo that gave the world what it needed: a throbbing, veiny, meat-version of the Outracks logo.
rulez added on the 2009-03-16 12:28:07 by Betong Betong
flawless victory!
rulez added on the 2009-03-19 16:09:50 by Sorcerer Sorcerer
epic win!
rulez added on the 2009-04-08 13:01:57 by kaoD kaoD
simply wowsers. still a favorite
rulez added on the 2009-04-14 08:05:47 by rayro rayro
Thanks for the comments. Could someone please capture this in a proper format just like the latest ASD-demos?
added on the 2009-04-14 13:31:15 by irvin irvin
Hell yes!
rulez added on the 2009-04-14 13:52:27 by samurai samurai
visuals kinda sucks but music is great
rulez added on the 2009-04-29 00:31:51 by unc unc
so dynamic.
rulez added on the 2009-05-31 00:11:29 by 4mat 4mat
On one hand, there are some excellent visuals and ideas, but on the other it's so hard to see because of all the flashing and jumping.

Good demo, but like many have said, I think it would have been a better demo without the processing effect all the way through.

rulez added on the 2009-07-28 16:07:44 by Wade Wade
just love it
rulez added on the 2009-11-07 00:47:46 by cosmicollie cosmicollie
cool
rulez added on the 2010-03-07 11:41:54 by seρρjο seρρjο
Absolutely brilliant !
rulez added on the 2010-03-25 02:23:54 by Korguiq Korguiq
rulez added on the 2010-03-25 02:46:42 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
demo is simply too short but it perfectly fits that tune! :) BB Image
added on the 2010-03-25 03:07:09 by gentleman gentleman
Caution: Falling rocks. I really liked the pulsing fauna bit.
rulez added on the 2010-05-24 23:44:08 by velusip velusip
Cool tune, cool shading, cool effects (except the smoke that looks a bit cheap), and cool final tag line. :)
rulez added on the 2010-07-18 17:21:22 by Zavie Zavie
Well deserved best soundtrack award, and overall superb demo.
rulez added on the 2011-01-25 01:44:33 by rutra80 rutra80
think thats my favourite Outracks demo with a really great tune!

Made a Highres Youtube Rip for it:
Gamma by Outracks (1080p)
rulez added on the 2011-07-05 19:39:55 by anni anni
good demo!
rulez added on the 2011-09-15 13:34:19 by rez rez
and what Zavie said :)
added on the 2011-09-15 13:34:42 by rez rez
awesome music works perfectly with black&white lowres fx
rulez added on the 2011-09-15 13:43:35 by tobé tobé
"music" vote.
sucks added on the 2011-11-29 23:00:36 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
Less flashing, and it would have been excellent. Still a thumb
rulez added on the 2012-01-27 23:49:59 by Frequent Frequent
6 years later and I still think it rocks
rulez added on the 2013-03-06 12:48:30 by FeN FeN
rulez added on the 2013-07-24 19:49:38 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
Oh shit, forgotten thumb.

Just watched it on my new rig, and it's still as awesome as back then -just that I can see it on full glory. One of my evergreens, and if it's only for three things:
- Irvin tune
- That tree
- You really make greys look awesome

<3
rulez added on the 2013-08-11 03:05:24 by mog mog
yep.
rulez added on the 2014-08-11 19:46:06 by las las
Still kicks ass, one of the greatest.
rulez added on the 2016-05-13 21:32:39 by sheriff sheriff
Not bad. Music is ace!
rulez added on the 2018-02-16 09:48:46 by Kylearan Kylearan
that skybox and repeating texture sucks :D pretty ok otherwise, neat music and dither
rulez added on the 2018-07-23 17:18:08 by wbcbz7 wbcbz7
the music is kinda cool but there's no payoff in the end
added on the 2018-09-21 13:47:51 by noby noby
what mog said
rulez added on the 2021-05-07 20:58:15 by wullon wullon

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