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HAM Eager by Platon
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screenshot added by platon42 on 2021-04-05 07:12:29
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release date : april 2021
release party : Revision 2021
compo : amiga demo
ranked : 6th
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popularity : 60%
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alltime top: #2411
added on the 2021-04-05 07:12:29 by platon42 platon42

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I'm eager to run this on one of my OCS machines.
Very original demo with wild weird colors. Nice!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 07:49:24 by ham ham
Lot of super nice effects and impressive one man prod!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 08:07:41 by ok3anos ok3anos
lots of delicious HAM stuff here :) even if design-wise its totally out of place
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 08:26:29 by wbc\\bz7 wbc\\bz7
very cool!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 08:30:36 by slash_2 slash_2
amazing effects, beautiful color palette, decent scenes... i really like this prod :)
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 08:30:59 by aolvos aolvos
Outstanding technical achievement! Very enjoyable fresh style not sticking to demoscene idioms, with a wonderful catchy soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 08:49:45 by Krill Krill
Thumbs up for the one man effort.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 08:55:20 by flynn_nrg flynn_nrg
I loved this one, fresh and full of completely off-the-wall ideas.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 10:04:57 by Nosferatu Nosferatu
Fresh and cool.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 10:20:02 by g r ü p g r ü p
Loved the style and music. Original and entertaining, technically groundbreaking work.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 10:21:08 by bifat bifat
Wow, there are some serious effects in demo. Had me scratching my head trying to work out how they are put together.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 10:29:50 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
Some really good effects in here
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 10:33:04 by xeron xeron
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Wow, there are some serious effects in demo. Had me scratching my head trying to work out how they are put together.


There is some (not too detailed though) tech tech about how the effects were made after the end of the scroller (wait a few secs). Not part of the Revision YT capture though.
added on the 2021-04-05 10:37:35 by platon42 platon42
Wow! So many cool, fresh effects. Also, nice music!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 10:47:01 by Mystra Mystra
rulez
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 10:53:07 by Xyl2k Xyl2k
interesting demo :) very good effect
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 11:02:19 by skido skido
I was like "dude. NO. well, YES. Eww! Boah! NOO. stop it. well YES, Y E S"
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 11:05:59 by HellMood HellMood
Good tech, but horrible design :-\ My eyes.. Please get a graphician involved for the next one :)
added on the 2021-04-05 11:23:21 by spike spike
This ruled!!!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 11:41:26 by okkie okkie
Wow, this is the Amiga demo I'm waiting for years now. Fresh, creative, puzzling, inspiring, ... Kudos for pulling this off alone! I hope you find a nice family to team up.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 11:41:45 by axis^oxy axis^oxy
OK, this was the absolute highlight of the compo for me. Massive effort to do what no one else dares to do ( except peskanov of course ;)
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 12:24:07 by winden winden
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Please get a graphician involved for the next one :)


No don't! keep on trucking! And i'm super humbled to have my little sofaworld effigy in here :D
added on the 2021-04-05 12:29:54 by okkie okkie
Should have placed higher!
added on the 2021-04-05 13:15:16 by g r ü p g r ü p
I am not convinced about the colors, if you ask my eyes.
More than OK in other aspects.
added on the 2021-04-05 13:26:25 by AlienTech AlienTech
What nosferatu said!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 14:12:45 by Emod Emod
Nice demo in HAM mode but a bit long
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 14:13:52 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Entertained me greatly in the weirdest of ways and isn't that what a demo should do in the end? :D
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 14:18:44 by Paralax Paralax
Although it is not endorsed with Disney approved colors there is a great wacky quality to this style (think of something like Southpark). Combined with effects that combine effortlessly with the HAM mode it is truly intriguing. Going to rewatch with a spyglass.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 14:19:10 by rloaderro rloaderro
ok
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 14:19:49 by Sir Sir
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"dude. NO. well, YES. Eww! Boah! NOO. stop it. well YES, Y E S" --Hellmood


Same here. Plus, I had the eerie, cozy-cringe feeling of having this peeled off of a 1992 computer magazine cover. Felt so "PD Software" to the hilt :D
Yet, there was a lot of bona fide HAM kung fu in there that save the thumb.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 14:20:39 by d0DgE d0DgE
Artistically-wise the result might be judged as going for "mookay" to "ugly".
RGB-wise, however, some people wouldn't believe this is coming out of a 1985 personal computer <3
FREAKING GREAT ACHIEVEMENT.
May this open a new genre in the Amiga OCS demoscene : HAM demos ?
Bravo.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 14:27:57 by fra fra
Just rewatched this and really enjoyed it. Wacky as hell entertaining, clever techniques andgood music.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 16:19:34 by Emufr3ak Emufr3ak
Loved this.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 16:22:50 by hukka hukka
I don't have an idea about the HAM tricks achieved here, but this was very weird and very very different, I liked it.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 16:26:42 by Optimonk Optimonk
Fresh! Should've ranked much higher.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 16:57:45 by edhellon edhellon
So many original effects. If this was put together little more nice it could be a winner. Loved that eye on the monkey kind of animal. Specially when the eye go everywhere :D Great work and hope to see more from this talented guy. Thanks
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 17:34:30 by nikosidis nikosidis
I love the wild, anarchic energy of this one!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 17:58:35 by Mibri Mibri
Great non-standard effects! Should have placed higher!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 18:22:01 by Morbid Morbid
Lots of trickery going on here. Not everything is pretty, but it sure is a labour of love. I remember AMCAF, your early demos and games, and your MS entries. Cool that you found your way back to the demoscene. I am sure you will get adopted in no time. My favorite part was the laser cube in the desert.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 20:36:10 by noname noname
Nice colorful OCE/ECS demo.

I think this was done, covnerting each line of an image to 16 or 32 colors and giving each line (or segment) its own copperlist-colors. However, nice work and nice tricks / ideas you did.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 20:57:29 by MrVainSCL MrVainSCL
can't judge on the tech side since i don't know amiga architecture that well, but aesthetically this felt really ugly to me overall.
added on the 2021-04-05 21:00:16 by psenough psenough
Wow! I thought a couple of years ago about making a game in HAM mode, but thought it would be chaos at bob edges and it would look terrible so I didn't try it. Now this motivates me to actually give it a try. It looks like even when there are artifacts, like in your shadows in the desert or the little bubbles over the lemur, they're not too distracting. I'll have to give it a go! Thanks for the inspiration.

Also I fucking lost it at the bear drawing part... brilliant :)
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 23:08:32 by Nuclear Nuclear
I think this should have placed higher. I felt like I was tripping watching it and such a strange style (to me) but I really liked it!
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 23:27:41 by Antiriad_UK Antiriad_UK
Very good piece of code.
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 23:28:58 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Say no to drugs
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 23:40:52 by Soundy Soundy
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I think this should have placed higher. I felt like I was tripping watching it and such a strange style (to me) but I really liked it!

I only just realised the lemur part was the greetz, I was transfixed by the eyes :D :D
One of the most memorable prods of this year.
I love the 93/94 demo feeling, but I guess few people like that easy going, carefree style.
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 00:35:04 by peskanov peskanov
At first I was not on board at all, but then gradually became more on board as things went on. I'm glad I watched this live, because otherwise I might have skipped it.
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 00:38:02 by Claw Claw
couldn't stop grinning at the underselling of quite a variety of effects, while not taking itself as seriously as many amiga demos tend to do.
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 00:46:18 by jco jco
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I think this was done, covnerting each line of an image to 16 or 32 colors and giving each line (or segment) its own copperlist-colors.


Uhm, no. While it is still HAM in all the ham-related effects, the only part where each line has it's own full palette is the Sliced-HAM (Greetings) part. But as I said, still HAM. Okay, the Cube-Dessert-Part is also Sliced-HAM for the upper 2/3 portion.
added on the 2021-04-06 08:33:08 by platon42 platon42
@platon42:
Thanks for the feedback and the clarification. What can i say? Achieving such effects in HAM mode on the A500 are simply amazing and unbelievable! Great job!
added on the 2021-04-06 10:39:30 by MrVainSCL MrVainSCL
Absolutely nuts. :D
Should have ranked higher.
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 10:52:30 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
Quite crappy in many departments but I dig the HAM burger ;)
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 13:04:47 by hfr hfr
There is some serious code here, welcome back, Platon42. :)
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 13:45:10 by StingRay StingRay
Im not an Amiga fanboi, but when I saw this, I knew it was special. I thoroughly enjoyed this demo. Awesome stuff!
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 15:04:38 by spkr spkr
This needs a big fat warning label "Do not watch on Acid".
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 16:26:27 by scamp scamp
It was weird and I still do not know what to think of it. Definitely will stay in my memory. Respect to the author for essentially working on it on his own.
added on the 2021-04-06 16:40:57 by spiryt spiryt
For Amcaf ;-)
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 20:21:57 by Aghnar Aghnar
I couldn't stop laughing.
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 22:22:39 by fizzer fizzer
Interesting...
rulez added on the 2021-04-06 23:31:07 by Black Dragon Black Dragon
Very cool.
rulez added on the 2021-04-07 18:43:39 by bodo^rab bodo^rab
Good demo with alot great looking HAM-backgrounds, combined with nice effects. Music also good.
rulez added on the 2021-04-08 01:25:04 by AW87 AW87
Thank you all for the positive messages here on the board, but also for the criticism and feedback on the lackings. Very much appreciated. I hope you had fun watching it, got the silly jokes (e.g. MOAR -> MOAI), taking things not too seriously.

I'll be doing a final version (better pacing, improved effects, less LSD and dutch colour scheme, improved music if I can fit it) and a HD installer in the coming months.
added on the 2021-04-08 08:09:29 by platon42 platon42
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and a HD installer


If you want to save some time doing this, I'll happily create a WHDLoad patch for the final version of the demo.
added on the 2021-04-08 09:17:25 by StingRay StingRay
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less LSD and dutch colour scheme


Hell no! This is an integral part of the demo experience! I love it just the way it is <3
added on the 2021-04-08 09:31:08 by g r ü p g r ü p
What grip said <3
added on the 2021-04-08 09:33:42 by bifat bifat
Ugly pretty, I really like how strange AND somehow familiar this feels.
rulez added on the 2021-04-08 09:42:46 by Daddy Freddy Daddy Freddy
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and a HD installer


If you want to save some time doing this, I'll happily create a WHDLoad patch for the final version of the demo.


Thanks for the offer -- however, the way the trackloader, the decrunching are the rest of the multitasking framework are interleaved, you probably wouldn't be too happy. It is a lot easier for me to do...
added on the 2021-04-08 12:18:58 by platon42 platon42
Beautiful effects in HAM mode.
Would Mr. Chris not find time for the new AMCAF extension? ;)
rulez added on the 2021-04-08 14:13:36 by tjahzi_of_dh0 tjahzi_of_dh0
Just great production! I was surprised it didn't rank higher in the compo. Together with Melon's entry, for me, it was the best.
rulez added on the 2021-04-08 15:23:14 by Defor Defor
Instead of posting lots of text here I have given my feedback in private. Pigge for me.
added on the 2021-04-08 15:26:34 by emoon emoon
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less LSD and dutch colour scheme


No way! Same LSD or more, please.

And you should start a new demogroup, think about it... "The Trippy Lemurs (TTL) presents..." :]
added on the 2021-04-08 17:47:25 by ham ham
Please more! :)
rulez added on the 2021-04-08 18:09:03 by viti viti
Simply this:
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I love the wild, anarchic energy of this one!
rulez added on the 2021-04-08 18:32:53 by baah baah
👍 for how it ended
rulez added on the 2021-04-08 23:55:19 by mop mop
I told you keeping your own vision in everything will be the best. Great original work mate. No matter how it placed, it was the most original.
rulez added on the 2021-04-09 19:57:31 by Serpent Serpent
Didn't work for me at all. Sorry......
sucks added on the 2021-04-10 12:23:07 by Frequent Frequent
Outstanding experimental glitchy HAM stuff this.
rulez added on the 2021-04-10 14:47:48 by guyfrost guyfrost
what psenough said.
Nice!
rulez added on the 2021-04-12 15:51:16 by Alex Menchi Alex Menchi
Mandatory thumb. Never seen before ham overkill <3
rulez added on the 2021-04-22 22:16:19 by Virgill Virgill
Finished the Final version including a harddisk runnable version.

Link should appear in the download section, but for the time being:

https://dump.platon42.de/files/Platon-HAM-Eager-Final.zip
https://dump.platon42.de/files/Platon-HAM-Eager-Final.lha
added on the 2021-05-04 15:47:27 by platon42 platon42
Cool stuff :)
rulez added on the 2021-05-04 19:42:52 by Seffren Seffren
There's some explanation of the effects in the end scroller if you leave it running for a bit. Suffice to say these effects are not straightforward :)
added on the 2021-05-04 20:35:03 by rloaderro rloaderro
Oh man, I thought I thumbed them all and then forgot about this one. Love to see something so original, great work and now a final version, need to check that soon ;)
rulez added on the 2021-05-04 21:06:02 by Ramon B5 Ramon B5
👍 final looks more slick
added on the 2021-05-04 21:39:14 by mop mop
what is special here?
ham isn't magic these days.
added on the 2021-05-04 22:36:43 by Blast! Blast!
"Ghosts are less dutch now."
"All the ugly images have been reconverted for better appreciation of ugly images."
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added on the 2021-05-04 23:23:26 by ham ham
Amiga demos won't be the same after this one. You'll need feeble excuses for not frequently using truecolor for effects.
added on the 2021-05-04 23:34:01 by bifat bifat
I think this is awesome in more than one way.
rulez added on the 2021-05-07 22:56:41 by malmix malmix
*patiently waits for the vidcap of final version because i suck at amiga emulators"
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*patiently waits for the vidcap of final version because i suck at amiga emulators"


There is one video of the final now, although the encoding quality is not brilliant and pixel aspect is not 1:1 (and lowres!). Still thankful for all the encodes :)

Best watched on a real computer, though.
added on the 2021-05-09 09:09:50 by platon42 platon42
I was bored and wrote a technical write-up for the demo. With all the technical secrets and Dutch colours.
added on the 2021-06-03 11:57:52 by platon42 platon42
Very nice writeup, thanks for documenting the hardwork!
added on the 2021-06-07 11:56:48 by Soundy Soundy
Dunno about the technicalities and whether it's impressive or not, but it's certainly an eyesore - still, gotta respect the solo effort and the music was pretty decent.
added on the 2021-06-07 12:14:30 by Gargaj Gargaj
i don't get it but i also have a suspicion there isn't really anything to "get"
sucks added on the 2021-06-07 12:30:35 by noby noby
platon42: Thanks for the technical write-up. Not having ever coded on the Amiga it's really an interesting read.
added on the 2021-06-07 12:57:41 by scamp scamp
i don't think its ugly. I enjoyed this demo on the livestream.
rulez added on the 2021-06-07 13:38:22 by .. ..
See i forgot to thumb it up, enjoyed at stream and at home! Made a physical disk to keep for easy access, watched many times and will for sure watch again soon :D Great write up technical details also ++++
rulez added on the 2021-06-07 13:50:38 by kRiZ^cMz kRiZ^cMz
I think this is somehow the epitome of demoscene - relatively complicated tech on shitty hardware, with an aesthetic that ruins it. Extra cringe for the end scroller.
added on the 2021-06-07 14:03:55 by Preacher Preacher
I do think it IS ugly and I'm glad platon42 joined a group full of talented artists, this is a promise for great demos in the future. This demo is interesting to me as not many demos explored the possibilities of HAM. Sprites over HAM pics are an old thing, such as Ice, but platon42 added some nice ideas, such as adding shading to the cube taking advantage of sprites, or deforming the HAM background.
added on the 2021-06-07 14:06:07 by Soundy Soundy
What Preacher said, except for that the aesthetics totally work for me. Great music too. Watched it three times in a row on real hardware the evening it came out, and several times more.
added on the 2021-06-07 14:13:21 by bifat bifat
thanks for the writeup, helps understand the tech behind things. still looks ugly though :)
added on the 2021-06-07 15:31:57 by psenough psenough
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still looks ugly though :)


I really don't get the hate, I fucking love it :D
added on the 2021-06-07 15:33:26 by okkie okkie
I guess it's matter of consuming the correct substances before watching it, even if platon42 claims in this tech document that the Amiga Boing Ball animation wasn't done with substances in mind.

This one definitely would go onto the "watch this on LSD to shit your pants" demo show playlist.
added on the 2021-06-07 15:48:33 by scamp scamp
Or being Dutch of course, which probably is the same thing.
added on the 2021-06-07 15:48:55 by scamp scamp
@Scamp: definately not the same thing ;)

Thumb for efford and comeback!
rulez added on the 2021-06-07 19:11:39 by magic magic
I am Dutch and I approve of this product.

Seriously though, interesting tech, thanks for the write up!
rulez added on the 2021-06-08 09:06:08 by Rob Rob
Did I say anything yet? Nope. Ok.
WTF My old A500 does!!! :D Thats great. Maybe ask for some musician next time but otherwise, thats amazing stuff - albeit not very aesthetic but still.
rulez added on the 2021-06-08 12:32:50 by leGend leGend
What legend said. This was kind of a wtf moment in the compo, but after a few more watchings I appreciate it a lot more.
rulez added on the 2021-06-08 15:27:43 by break break
What is going on here? Hot stuff! In particular I like the desert scene
with the UFO cube and the laser beam. It is so weird and surreal.
Platon42, thank you for that outstanding production with its very
unique style; technical write-up appreciated as well.

(German, F familiar, colloquial language "Das ist der HAMmer!")
rulez added on the 2021-06-12 13:46:07 by ROG_VF ROG_VF
More of HAMiga demo please!
rulez added on the 2021-06-17 20:20:17 by __sam__ __sam__
Wonderful demo!
rulez added on the 2021-06-25 20:19:15 by dimouse dimouse
Just rules. Blew my socks off.
rulez added on the 2021-07-17 23:57:56 by mr_spiv mr_spiv
pretty marvelous
rulez added on the 2021-07-18 00:00:18 by gentleman gentleman
Pure coder demo madness. I have to admit the presentation is charming in its own way.
rulez added on the 2021-08-23 17:47:23 by isocosa isocosa
Ugly mish-mash with bad music and found photos. And a wonderfully creative exploration of possibilities and punk middle finger to the jaded styling of fake impossibilities!

On rewatch you get it like you get JCMX, and the charm of the total freedom wins even if you don't care about the effects unlocked by so much work. More than half a dozen firsts here. Great stuff. :)
rulez added on the 2021-08-28 23:01:32 by Photon Photon

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