greets graph

category: general [glöplog]
has anyone previously tried to build a database of what group greeted whom in which demo? it would be fun to explore a comprehensive greets graph and how it evolved through years.
added on the 2021-04-07 03:44:04 by provod provod
sounds like a job for demozoo :D
added on the 2021-04-07 04:07:40 by psenough psenough
Not sure if it's a good idea or not... hmm
I'm looking forward to the "fuckings" graph too. :D
added on the 2021-04-07 09:18:40 by ham ham
sounds like a job for demozoo :D

I think Janeway actually has scroll text data for Amiga demos ;)
Sounds like a project to do during a pandemic :)
added on the 2021-04-07 12:38:23 by D.Fox D.Fox
should check out all the NFO's too then as I try not to have any greets in any prod I'm in (well at least https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=76259 didnt have any if I remember right)
added on the 2021-04-07 14:27:11 by leGend leGend
Imagine doing OCR on text shown in a demo. Colorful pixelart fonts, deformed fonts, text drawn as 3d shapes, text shown behind a 3d object. Maybe it can be a good CAPTCHA to check if a human can read the text. Can the text be extracted in an automated way?
added on the 2021-04-07 14:48:37 by neoneye neoneye
Also funny:

* friend-index: how many greetings minus fuckings per prod did {group | scener} receive?
* crowdpleaser-index: how many thumbsups minus thumbsdowns per prod did {group | scener} receive on pouet?
* pricemoney-index: how high ranked {group | scener} per prod in compos?
* namevoting-index: how is the correlation between pricemoney-index and crowdpleaser-index for {group | scener}?

added on the 2021-04-07 16:43:26 by NR4 NR4
GreetRank. Which group is the most elite of all, by means of weighted greets per demo.
added on the 2021-04-07 17:36:52 by Sesse Sesse
Another complication is that sometimes greets are for abbrevated group names, or even worse, logos.
added on the 2021-04-08 07:35:02 by sol_hsa sol_hsa
so like a wordcloud per year, to see who got greeted the most across time?

sounds .. well I was about to say "fun", I'm not sure I would find it a fun project to carry out, personally :) But I would find it interesting to mess around with an interactive visualisation on a webpage, and I'm sure it could lead to some new insights
added on the 2021-04-08 10:19:28 by farfar farfar
in keeping with scene spirit, this would need to be categorized per kind of greeting though, as a freeform edge node description maybe. this way fuckings and explicit non-greetings and regus ademordna and the likes can be marked as such.
added on the 2021-04-08 21:09:16 by skrebbel skrebbel
i think it's possible (if you don't need your life anymore), but the main problem is abstract greets like "greetings to all sizecoders" and even "everyone i forgot"

sounds like a job for demozoo :D

oh god pls
added on the 2021-04-08 21:52:38 by 100bit 100bit
I once thought of mining group names from the Amiga scroll texts I had archived to build something like this, sadly never followed through. Could be interesting.
added on the 2021-04-08 22:02:33 by break break
now i just need to form groups "everybody we forgot to mention", "at the party" and "you"
added on the 2021-04-08 22:23:51 by waffle waffle
now i just need to form groups "everybody we forgot to mention", "at the party" and "you"

SevenEvens is way ahead of you.
added on the 2021-04-09 00:22:23 by phoenix phoenix
my friends in Inque always purposely misspelled Kewlers, how will we count that?!
Well, someone needs to start 🤷

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added on the 2021-04-09 01:06:41 by sigveseb sigveseb
now i just need to form groups "everybody we forgot to mention", "at the party" and "you"

SevenEvens is way ahead of you.

Damn, I forgot this one :D
added on the 2021-04-09 09:42:24 by waffle waffle
Gephi would totally work for such a graph visualisation (with groups as nodeslinky, and - optionally - weighted by the number of times greeted).

Not sure if the data can be realistically collected.

Maybe with crowdsourcing, with a per-group approach to simplify.
added on the 2021-04-09 09:57:46 by wullon wullon
(And EDGES optionally...)*
added on the 2021-04-09 09:59:10 by wullon wullon
This would probably be a hard-to-oversee graph with many crossings.
added on the 2021-04-09 13:09:08 by Adok Adok
It shouldn't be a graph, it should be a stat. A website (e.g. scenegreets.net, why not?) with groups/sceners as pages with stats like "how many greets this group got" and "how many times this group/scener greeted other groups/sceners", probably with a list of prods with full greetings list from demo or info files.
It also will facilitate the task about greetings to abstract groups like I mentioned b4.
added on the 2021-04-09 13:55:22 by 100bit 100bit
Well, someone needs to start 🤷

~90k prods to go :)
added on the 2021-04-09 17:51:45 by bob_er bob_er
~90k prods to go :)

According to Demozoo: 133316.
added on the 2021-04-09 18:21:28 by gaspode gaspode