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category: residue [glöplog]
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the demoscene is probably something that made wider sense in a certain time, and probably doesn't anymore, really. outreach and trying to grow it again is probably pointless, and changing it to force growth would turn it into something it isnt meant to be.

it is what it is, and that's ok. accept it and enjoy it for what it is - a bunch of old farts doing what they've always done and still having fun doing it.

While I do think this could be argued on some level, I think it's a bit too narrow of a view overall. To say whether the Demoscene makes "sense" anymore has to assume that there's some static, objective, unchanging definition of the Demoscene out there, somewhere in the abstract that we cannot comprehend.

I don't agree with this assumption though, because after all what is the Demoscene if not for the people that it's made of? The Demoscene is that which we do; it is all the forms and transformations our subculture has taken in its history, it is intrinsically the very things that we do. And it will continue to transform in the future as well. I see the Demoscene more as a community that strives to subsist against the world that's changing around it, while simultaneously adapting to it. We ought not to view our relevance as just being validated from the outside by the rest of the world (although I don't think it ought to be consciously avoided either).

Similarly I don't think the goal of outreach is nor ought to be to pass down an expired version of the Demoscene to someone else—to make it their responsibility, but to join more people into the community that you want to see in it. The Demoscene is not its past self, and that's ok. :)
added on the 2021-06-11 16:18:22 by noby noby
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The Demoscene is not its past self, and that's ok. :)

<3
added on the 2021-06-11 16:36:47 by v3nom v3nom
I think the live coding and shader toy wave is a great direction for a "new demo scene". I hope that will keep developing while us old farts scroll into the border and then into the sunset.
added on the 2021-06-11 18:32:44 by rloaderro rloaderro
demoscene will merge with unity and unreal scene
CRACKTROS ARE ADS AND THUS SHOULD BE BLOCKED
What ham said:
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Anarchism is the only political system made on a solid ethical foundation.

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Pay the creator to commission the demos you wanna see. Generously.

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House at the Mountains by BITS is a masterpiece of design.

Not sure if the House at the Mountains is really a masterpiece, but it's certainly not bad. Otherwise, I couldn't agree more.
added on the 2021-06-11 23:43:04 by bifat bifat
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What ham said:
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Anarchism is the only political system made on a solid ethical foundation.


You two have clearly not understood anarchism, it can be anything because there is no central dogma.
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Pay the creator to commission the demos you wanna see. Generously.

Possibly, but why?
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House at the Mountains by BITS is a masterpiece of design.

Not sure if the House at the Mountains is really a masterpiece, but it's certainly not bad. Otherwise, I couldn't agree more.

It is.
added on the 2021-06-12 00:31:47 by El Topo El Topo
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You two have clearly not understood anarchism, it can be anything because there is no central dogma.

Continue your diligent studies, young disciple!
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Possibly, but why?

Just because you can, it may infuse some livelihood in your demomaking. It's common practise in artisan craftwork. Offer service, make a contract. You don't have to if you don't like the clients requirements.
added on the 2021-06-12 00:46:39 by bifat bifat
I pay 10€ for a demo including a goat, people dancing the Macarena and exactly 237 cubes!
added on the 2021-06-12 04:07:46 by v3nom v3nom
people celebrating "yay! drama!" in pouet and/or posting a picture related to popcorn are just the worst
added on the 2021-06-12 14:12:03 by T-101 T-101
/me grabs hit bucket
added on the 2021-06-12 21:20:12 by spkr spkr
curryworst
added on the 2021-06-13 00:08:13 by T$ T$
Hey, cracktro ad blocker origin?
added on the 2021-06-13 10:39:30 by leGend leGend
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demoscene will merge with unity and unreal scene


Its already there.
added on the 2021-06-14 06:18:44 by mudlord mudlord
if the unity and unreal scene wants old farts shouting that using boilerplate opengl is so much more l33t than using a tool :P
added on the 2021-06-14 10:32:44 by havamal havamal
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demoscene will merge with unity and unreal scene


Its already there.


which is v good
added on the 2021-06-14 13:00:18 by okkie okkie
I don't understand the concept of popular.
added on the 2021-06-14 18:42:56 by rp rp
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if the unity and unreal scene wants old farts shouting that using boilerplate opengl is so much more l33t than using a tool :P


At the moment its more l33t to havea tool. Coding without one is fucking lame.
added on the 2021-06-15 02:54:32 by mudlord mudlord
Which to me is pretty much the reason why I stopped.

There is no point being involved when people will punch down at you anyway and that you know you never matter, are always insignificant, and that the scene will never, ever change for the better.
added on the 2021-06-15 02:56:47 by mudlord mudlord
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The Demoscene is not its past self, and that's ok. :)


People always making excuses that it should never change past its old self: Well shit sherlock, its fucking 2021. Time changes all. Stop living in the past.
added on the 2021-06-15 03:02:36 by mudlord mudlord
The scene is what it was and what it will be. Forevermore.
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People always making excuses that it should never change past its old self: Well shit sherlock, its fucking 2021. Time changes all. Stop living in the past.

Dude you are literally agreeing with the post you quoted, why act so pissed about it? Take a deep breath.
Time to stop living in the past? Totally. So tools are good.
added on the 2021-06-15 09:47:26 by Preacher Preacher
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At the moment its more l33t to havea tool. Coding without one is fucking lame.


is that really the prevailing opinion, or does someone have tool envy? :)
added on the 2021-06-15 10:18:21 by smash smash
Real Fast-RAM for OCS/ECS-Amigas exists and has been bought for well over 30 years.
added on the 2021-06-15 10:34:19 by noname noname

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