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What does Demosceners thinking about NFT?

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Cryptocurrencies are the ultimate capitalistic commodity. Buy nothing, get nothing back.
NFT is more of that, but you actually buy the illusion that you own something.


I thought people that sold their games, nay, their demotools with hardware based DRM would be happy to use NFTs :/
added on the 2021-05-26 08:29:37 by mudlord mudlord
Who sells demotools?
added on the 2021-05-26 13:49:44 by Preacher Preacher
Mudlord and his long standing... whatever-this-is against Notch - which is a commercial product, and not more of a demotool than Unity is.
added on the 2021-05-26 14:31:45 by Gargaj Gargaj
lol
added on the 2021-05-26 15:01:32 by okkie okkie
the lol is directed at calling notch a demotool
added on the 2021-05-26 15:02:02 by okkie okkie
also, i haven't heard about nfts in a while, so I assume the fad is over / it has collapsed.

good imo.
added on the 2021-05-26 15:02:27 by okkie okkie
I have nothing to do with NFTs or demotools. I can barely raymarch a sphere without artifacts.
added on the 2021-05-26 15:54:38 by xernobyl xernobyl
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Of course, anyone with a good internet connection and a little know-how can download the YouTube video for themselves, but only the NFT auction winner will have the certificate of authenticity to the original video.


This is the real deal, you can't prove Charlie bit your finger!
added on the 2021-05-27 09:30:20 by El Topo El Topo
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This is the real deal, you can't prove Charlie bit your finger!

You can't if the link goes down.
It does nothing to me.
added on the 2021-05-27 13:02:51 by jco jco
It gets worse:

https://www.artnews.com/art-news/market/christies-warhol-nfts-1980s-amiga-sale-1 234593542/

Yep, one of the biggest auction houses in the world now sells worthless receipts for fucking copies of artworks the original author never planned to be sold, for $10k plus.
added on the 2021-05-27 13:36:19 by kb_ kb_
Wow, that is impressively lame.
added on the 2021-05-27 15:18:33 by imerso imerso
On the bright side, that means that the originals are not "owned" by some (quoting Subi) cryptocurrency-obsessed arsehole!
Yeah, old auction houses don't get how early digital art works. Or how "authentic" digital content works, in general. To be an "original", it would have to be either the floppy disk it was saved on, write-protected, or the Amiga 1000 and monitor on which it was created.. and good luck with that.
added on the 2021-05-27 16:26:34 by phoenix phoenix
“Notch isnt a demotool”

Doesn’t that depend on whether people make demos with it? Why do people care so much about the tools other people use? Speaking as a non-coder making stuff in Notch, I’m just happy to A) be able to make something that I couldnt otherwise, B) learn something in the process, C) have fun
added on the 2021-05-27 19:09:25 by farfar farfar
That wasn't my argument. My argument was that it's a commercial product and as such the copy protection methods on it are expected to be such.
added on the 2021-05-27 19:10:34 by Gargaj Gargaj
Sure yeah. I Didnt mean it as a reply to your post exactly, more of a general comment about the demotool discussions that crop up now and again
added on the 2021-05-27 22:24:03 by farfar farfar
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My argument was that it's a commercial product and as such the copy protection methods on it are expected to be such.


Right.

Hardware DRM such as USB dongles are expected???

You have to be kidding me.

Sure, VMProtect 3 would be fine.
And the equivalent for video games (Denuvo) is pretty much a given and people learnt to tolerate that just fine.

But no....Why not add an extra USB hardware device? Why Wibu Codemeter of all choices?
added on the 2021-05-28 08:18:00 by mudlord mudlord
Point I'm saying: Having such kernel level DRM on your product shows a severe lack of confidence.
added on the 2021-05-28 08:19:30 by mudlord mudlord
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On the bright side, that means that the originals are not "owned" by some (quoting Subi) cryptocurrency-obsessed arsehole!


If some greedy people want to nuke the planet by cozying up to the whims of Elon F*ck and co, let them.

Thats my stance on NFTs: people can do it but its not my cup of tea.
added on the 2021-05-28 08:20:57 by mudlord mudlord
For such amounts of money I'd rather contact an artist directly and commission a piece for myself with the artist signing off their rights to me. Not only would this be cheaper and better for the environment but I'd also really have something worth in return be it copyright, exclusive use or what-else is decided in the contract.
added on the 2021-05-28 09:16:14 by madpew madpew
^
added on the 2021-05-28 09:19:51 by mudlord mudlord

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