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Deadline 2021: Re-United | October, 8th - 10th | Berlin, Germany

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*get IN
added on the 2021-08-10 14:30:50 by bonefish bonefish
Lol, i'm so sorry V3nom.. please post some of the cool compos you have or what we can do at home to help your party if we can't visit!
added on the 2021-08-10 14:31:46 by okkie okkie
Yeah, V3nom, please don't let this drag you down. Fuck that noise and continue doing your thing. It's really, really appreciated.
added on the 2021-08-10 14:32:43 by kb_ kb_
Ah great snipe! New page! So yeah, i did miss névokes deadline (sorry névoke :() so i'll def make something for Deadline!
added on the 2021-08-10 14:32:43 by okkie okkie
also from your website:

"Please note: If you win a prize we will try to send it to you or bring it to another demoparty, eg. Revision to hand it over. This usually works out well, but no guarantee"

I think I won third? place in your tracked music once, but never got a prize... :D
added on the 2021-08-10 14:34:47 by okkie okkie
I'll make sure I win something AGAIN!
added on the 2021-08-10 14:35:17 by okkie okkie
Who's in for a big pc-4k intro compo at deadline? :) I'd be up for it.
Also thanks v3nom for hosting the party. I really need the real-life social interaction with you guys back. :) we all do, I think
added on the 2021-08-10 14:36:08 by NR4 NR4
I'm also up for a big pc-4k compo. :)
added on the 2021-08-10 14:38:47 by fizzer fizzer
Really disappointing how you guys: fizzer, noby, scamp, kb and okkie seem incapable of having a proper debate about something and fall back to polemic dirty argument tactics and distraction when challenged or confronted with facts. Always thought this was a community of people who like to flex their brain a bit... but sure lets bring this thread back on track and have some pointless "4k compo hype" chatter. At least this year you guys will have a chance to win the 4k compo.
added on the 2021-08-10 14:44:52 by LJ LJ
Boo hoo.
added on the 2021-08-10 14:45:37 by fizzer fizzer
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At least this year you guys will have a chance to win the 4k compo.
Why?
added on the 2021-08-10 14:50:06 by Sir Sir
LJ, as you mentioned my name - do I get that right, you agree with Gabbie's "Unvaccinated people are the new Jews" argument, or think that it's a worthy contribution to the marketplace of ideas, or whatever? because that (and the notion that what the orgas did was obedience) was the only thing I was arguing against here, polemically or not.
added on the 2021-08-10 14:54:43 by kb_ kb_
Just wow ... O.o

I also wish the Deadline organizers much success and a super smooth party. Thank you for organizing something fun in these troubled times! Maybe if I can arrange for it I'll remotely contribute an entry as well, but no promises :)
added on the 2021-08-10 14:55:33 by SunSpire SunSpire
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Once again - Gabbie: Fuck you, you disgusting piece of shit. No, you being an idiot does not make your comparable to what happened to jewish people. It just makes you a fucking idiot without any shame.


If being skeptical of a rushed and experimental 'vaccine' makes me an idiot, so be it. If you want to trust Pfizer and friends with their ""immaculate"" record, be my guest. And I have never said that the current situation is as bad as the Jewish genocide (obviously), but we are on a seriously dangerous path. Time will tell where we stand right now.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:00:57 by Gabbie Gabbie
@noby: Nobody should be forced to vaccinate … because there were deaths as a result of vaccination. Even if the possibility is 500.000:1 there’s still a chance of dying. So if you force 1 million people to vaccinate two of them will probably die and you are responsible for it.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:01:46 by gaspode gaspode
Then what happens if you convince 1 million people to not get vaccinated? What is the ratio then?
added on the 2021-08-10 15:03:06 by fizzer fizzer
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Really disappointing how you guys: fizzer, noby, scamp, kb and okkie seem incapable of having a proper debate about something and fall back to polemic dirty argument tactics and distraction when challenged or confronted with facts. Always thought this was a community of people who like to flex their brain a bit... but sure lets bring this thread back on track and have some pointless "4k compo hype" chatter. At least this year you guys will have a chance to win the 4k compo.

Thing is that I don't really even know where you're coming from. The vaccine is wholly recommended by medical and healthcare professionals to literally everyone. It's at best irresponsible to try to exercise bothsidesism and convince people to hesitate on health matters based on flimsy personal research. If you refuse to trust professional guidance on a matter as important as this, there is no argument to be had; you're just making a case for unhealthy, unwarranted skepticism.

Sources (official, in English):
Suitability of COVID-19 vaccines for various groups
Safety of COVID-19 vaccines
added on the 2021-08-10 15:04:44 by noby noby
kb, I mentioned you because as far as I understand your previous post you advocate to just stop all debate.I also think that although the jew thing is far fetched, there are parallels Gabbie points out that could be addressed and potentially refuted in a factual manner, especially since this is an often brought up analogy it would make sense to work out the exact point(s) on why it doesn't apply, this way one or even both parties, as well as the readers may learn something rather than leaving the debate unresolved.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:05:30 by LJ LJ
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Then what happens if you convince 1 million people to not get vaccinated? What is the ratio then?


1.000.000*0.0015 = 1500
added on the 2021-08-10 15:09:54 by Gabbie Gabbie
So using your numbers 1500 people would die from Covid-19 versus 2 people dying from vaccination?
added on the 2021-08-10 15:10:52 by fizzer fizzer
Can we please stop posting anything into this thread which is not directly about the Deadline demoparty now? Like... out of respect for the deadline organizers?

And can we seriously stop dragging Jews into this? Like... out of respect for the shoa / holocaust?

Thank you, decency management.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:15:51 by scamp scamp
noby: maybe you want to re-read my original post, or my answer to your previous post, all the sources I name are the official ones our government bases their decisions on. Every example I brought up are documented and vetted decisions and recommendations by health-care professionals (aka doctors). I'm doing anything but refusing to trust professional guidance, all I did was pointing out that there's not a single "safe for everyone" drug on the whole planet, despite what you and some others may want to believe.

If you want to say your government knows better than the german one I'm curious to hear how you can have a qualified opinion on that. All guidelines I read always require individual risk assessment by a health-care professional based on medical history.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:18:25 by LJ LJ
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kb, I mentioned you because as far as I understand your previous post you advocate to just stop all debate


You mean the "fuck that noise" part? That was meant for this edition of Deadline specifically. The situation is basically still changing on a daily basis, so there's a lot of debate still to be had, but V3nom made clear he (and the other orgas presumably) have made up their minds about it. And were I to choose between a Deadline 2021 only for the vaccinated, or no Deadline 2021 at all, for example because the "debate" that as so often got dragged into political wishy washy mud right from the get go has worn the organizers out), it would definitely be the former.

As far as Gabbie is concerned - there have been a lot on discussions, some here at this site, at the past, that prove well enough that the whole "refute in a factual manner" strategy is a misguided one.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:22:29 by kb_ kb_
Y'know on reflection, LJ we are actually agreeing with you. But my main point is that statistically it's safer to receive the vaccine than to avoid it.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:22:35 by fizzer fizzer
Hey, LJ
> At least this year you guys will have a chance to win the 4k compo.
sorry for the pointless 4k hype. You're right, there is not much I did achieve in those compos compared to you, provided I participated only once and you won. I'll shut up abount 4k intros any time.
I don't even disagree with your arguments earlier.
I wrote the reply because I think that the tone in the thread is really unneccessary harsh, and some of you might regret going at each other this way later. This discussion would make more sense in person imo.

consider competing anyways at deadline. I enjoy your prods and would also like to compete with you there. If you don't, I'll bring you decent competition to the next revision, or the next one after that. and at some point I'll also win. wait for it.
added on the 2021-08-10 15:25:57 by NR4 NR4

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