Why don't we start giving good critics?

category: general [glöplog]
Let us all start telling what could make the releases better so that we can please the authors and encourage them to do more demos with the serious words from the people.

If you have some general guidelines, then feel free to post them here.

I am king.
Ah. Now I gave 2 prods somewhat better critics than usual. If everyone did that every day we could transform into a database of joy and wisdom.

Come on, participate!
/me prepares flamesuit
added on the 2004-10-19 20:37:36 by Gargaj Gargaj
the reason I usually dont give constructive criticism is because I have absolutely no respect for people who don't have a clue...
why dont we make a competition out of it?

Lets divide pouet users into two teams. One is bad (like Sauron harrrr) and one good (like that lame ass hobbit named Frodo). The bad teams goal is to downvote and diss as many prods as they can and the good team should do the opposite.

I havent really figured out the wining condition yet tho. But feel free to contribute to this idea it would be GREAT fun!!

(ps, maybe we could have an extra avatar that shows what side we are on? Like one with a halo and another with a pentagram or a svastika..)
added on the 2004-10-19 21:17:13 by Pegasus Pegasus
Pega: Sounds kind of silly... a little eeky.

Slemmy: What if they asked for it?
sensible people can ignore bad critics. there will always be ones who will criticize from a scratch without thinking about it (e.g. people's first prods, prods for rare platforms, new innovations etc...) / those who put comment without any clue (like those comments which start with "haven't seen this yet, but.."). pouet isn't right place to hang around if you can't recognize the bullshit from the fact (yes, there seems to be some serious talk every now and then, too).
added on the 2004-10-19 22:00:46 by shadez shadez
I agree, but I also think that people with a clue should see for themselves what is wrong with their productions and try to fix it. If you were Mr. Nextempire, wouldn't you see that something is horribly wrong?

I think this should apply even to newbies. Even if it is your first production, there's no reason why it should suck
added on the 2004-10-19 22:14:59 by Preacher Preacher
here's some constructive criticism: LordGraga, you suck!
ohh god, there is no end ....
added on the 2004-10-19 22:32:51 by pantaloon pantaloon
And then we get this critism:
- music sucked, effects were great
- effects sucked, music was great
You cannot make demo that everybody likes. You have to think do you make demo that you like yourself or something that pleasures major of sceners.
added on the 2004-10-19 22:34:08 by blueflame blueflame
geeks expect some reward for the 1000's of hours spent hunched over their computer and reading programming manuals etc, and unfortunately 99.9% of the population don't give them any respect, so they have to resort to flaming "newbies" to feel good about themselves.

it's sad, but that's the way it is, especially on a site like poeut.

perhaps if you kiss their bottoms they might just might give you some tips, but don't expect them to even be nice while doing so.
added on the 2004-10-19 22:37:30 by Bagpuss Bagpuss
When someone makes a demo they should recieve true critizism. If a production sucks, too bad, it will get thumbed down. How many times must this boring debate return here, it will never make any changes anyway!
If anyone writes "your effect's look like shite!" and you think that your hardware accelerated dycp-scroller running at 2 fps are the best, something is wrong (with the coder that is!).
Learn to laugh when laught at, getting sad about bad reviews are not getting you nowhere. Learn to get motivated when people tells ya how bad you are, your next release will be your change too show them how wrong they where when they dissed ya!

And never forget, this is Pouet! It's not exactly the fountain of visdom your lookin' at!
added on the 2004-10-19 23:25:18 by ekoli ekoli
What the fuck! Why did I miss inopia's thread where these things already were up on display?
added on the 2004-10-19 23:47:49 by ekoli ekoli
Not that's it's new, but still... Same old song as always, die thread die!
added on the 2004-10-19 23:51:30 by ekoli ekoli
You must don't give a fuck about critics ! ;) Make intros, not critics !

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added on the 2004-10-19 23:52:08 by Someone Someone
Your obsession with prehistoric is getting to me =)
added on the 2004-10-19 23:58:26 by Nezbie Nezbie
a prods rating is seldom about how well done it is. even when you have "serious" replies, it's more a picture of the reviewers personal ideals and prejudices. now it might help you how to make first place in a compo, but for real serious critisism please just go ask a friend you respect or something..
dissing and discussing is fun, but "reviews" or "proffesional critisism" is fucking useless.
if you still feel disincourage by elitism and flamewars, the scene probably isn't for you anway ;)
added on the 2004-10-20 00:01:30 by lithis lithis
prehistorik2 \o/
i fully support Pegasus' idea!
of course, i'm on the bad side, for at least two reasons:
1) 99% of all demos are crap
2) the bad side always win!
now i should change my avatar to a pentagram...
added on the 2004-10-20 00:31:36 by blala blala
It would be amusing if a thread on pouet actually changed ANYTHING!
Except for the 'fix me beautiful'-thread i don't know of any :)
added on the 2004-10-20 00:34:12 by xbit xbit
little fame-whore.
added on the 2004-10-20 00:39:04 by dipswitch dipswitch
Let's first begin with not starting useless threads created by attention whores. Of course flamewars and threads bashing people don't count as useless ones.
added on the 2004-10-20 01:37:47 by ithaqua ithaqua
You all just envy to my avatar ;)))
added on the 2004-10-20 08:39:46 by Someone Someone