The first Demoscener - Oskar Fishinger

category: general [glöplog]
Yep, you may now this.. shown at BP 2004 ?!? and i found now again this video, from fishinger done back in 1935... sadly no *.nfo available but anyway...

oskar fishinger, the one the grandfather

check out his composition in blue or "komposition in blau" the original titel.


enjoy and praise him ;-)
this radiosity stuff is amazing.. but there where others before (dont know the particular names) but there are some sinescrollers n stuff out there (about 1920)..
added on the 2007-10-08 14:16:41 by mad mad
IIRC "Komposition in Blau" has been shown at BP03 or BP04 on the bigscreen.
it's really a great work.
added on the 2007-10-08 14:21:04 by styx^hcr styx^hcr


.. but there where others before

...interessting would be nice to see also other similar stuff =)
it was BP04, and Loaderror and I were just thinking "ok we got a couple of things to learn here."
added on the 2007-10-08 14:36:17 by Gargaj Gargaj
Walter Ruttmann - Lichtspiel Opus I (1921) dont know if its the same actually..And its not the ones i meant but the first parts look very demoish.. there are also more ones there.. but indeed the demosceners were fun.. they must have been taken some timetravelling machine (or some partydrugs)..
added on the 2007-10-08 14:43:54 by mad mad
maybe you think it was one of us... i mean names like walter ruttmann and oskar fishinger sounding very scenish =)) so it maybe that one of us here have developed a time machine and acted back as those guys... =)
yep thats what i think.. ;)
added on the 2007-10-08 14:55:49 by mad mad
is that for real? I mean its not a fake? If its real, its great work, almost ahead of its time really.
added on the 2007-10-08 15:06:02 by auld auld
yes auld search for oskar fishinger + wikipedia. he did some work back in those years. no fake, true spirit and love for his work.
In 1590, Gregorio Comanini described an invention by the Mannerist painter Arcimboldo of a system for creating color-music based on apparent luminosity (light-dark contrast) instead of hue.

There you go. First scener lived around 1590.
added on the 2007-10-08 15:15:02 by doomdoom doomdoom
I love the cube sliding across the screen at the beginning. The scene is born.
added on the 2007-10-10 04:08:14 by bigcheese bigcheese
if I had the skills, I'd be tempted to edit a "hund" into the video..
added on the 2007-10-10 04:18:11 by bigcheese bigcheese
gargaj: So now we know what "Structure 3: Oskarism" will look like.
added on the 2007-10-10 09:36:27 by gloom gloom
Seriously, this one deserves a prod entry here on pouet!
added on the 2007-10-10 11:02:36 by nitro2k01 nitro2k01
article (in German) about Oskar Fishinger:
http://www.4players.de/4sceners.php?LAYOUT=dispbericht&world=4sceners&BE RICHTID=4331

Monroe wanted to put this in English on the planned online portal for SCEEN, which was unfortunately stopped.
added on the 2007-10-10 12:16:21 by Bobic Bobic

Can he do that in real-time? :P
added on the 2007-10-10 14:47:04 by Arkholt Arkholt
wasn't? Yeah? Now tell me how this is done. Oh and I already know about Zuse! :P
added on the 2007-10-10 16:03:57 by mad mad
This was called experimental movies, there was a first active area between 1920-1939, and then around 1965. This was a *scene* with many people involved. You can find a lot older stuffs than fischinger. I remember watching a conference on this in the 90's at the university: you got some people behind the fx of fantasia behind it, the guy of the james bond movie's titles, terry gilliam's cartoon for the monty python was hugely copied on a girl from that scene also.... I remember having seen *a lot* of astounding short films from many different artists from that scene at the conf. Not mentionning some where using led tables to make pixel-based screens in the 60's, with blitter-line effects !!! (first screen bitmaps on computer: 1971) . There was also guys that pissed on their reels to make effects !
added on the 2007-10-10 16:27:10 by krabob krabob
...and... that was the people wo did the conference:
... no time for further research here...
added on the 2007-10-10 16:31:37 by krabob krabob
MARCEL DUCHAMP - Anemic Cinema - 1926 !!! <- (note: no original sound: normal cause cinema went noisy around 1930)
added on the 2007-10-10 17:26:04 by krabob krabob
again some duchamp... nice demoish effects with mirrors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTR0AceWTDE&mode=related&search=
... so oskar may be the *second* scener around :-).... well, of course melies must be number one.
added on the 2007-10-10 17:30:18 by krabob krabob
completely excellent: (spain-1961) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW0O8lZoXiw
added on the 2007-10-10 18:05:47 by krabob krabob