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added on the 2007-11-14 14:59:37 by xernobyl xernobyl
Dear sceners! when i rated the "connie" intro with a thumb down, i didn't know if it was made by a chinese scener or an african stripy elephant. I just have seen an better realisation of this effect in lots of other intros. So, your reasons are useless.

2ps - thumb down for you
added on the 2007-11-14 15:44:52 by BiTL BiTL
he's so mean !
added on the 2007-11-14 16:00:00 by faraday faraday
This is probably the best sentence ever written on Pouet:

Because Kadet all has correctly told and without me. Personally I do not have a difference, Chinese it is release or American, also without a difference a beginner scener or not. If it is not pleasant to me, I put thumb down, what else questions?

Is that really a Russian or does Shane have a new account?
added on the 2007-11-14 16:07:47 by okkie okkie
Okkie: is that a what else questions or yes ?
added on the 2007-11-14 16:29:59 by keops keops
Don't you go engrish on me aswell keops!!!
added on the 2007-11-14 16:30:41 by okkie okkie
... get a life? right?
added on the 2007-11-14 19:18:39 by kraviz kraviz
Go easy on them, they're entitled to their opinion. I didn't like the intro either and I don't understand why we should go easier on someone because they're from a non-scene country.

I think it's kind of patronising to give out charity votes. It's like that "everyone's a winner" or "it's the trying that counts" mentality. Man up! Criticism makes us better and more determined.
added on the 2007-11-14 19:34:44 by Flunce Flunce
Hmm.. my opinion is change.. this intro sucks cause it slowly work on fast machines .. :-x
I quite liked it. My vote wasn't charity.
added on the 2007-11-14 21:05:56 by xeron xeron
if they weren't chinese but, say, estonian, this thread wouldn't exist :)
added on the 2007-11-14 21:13:34 by Gargaj Gargaj
And if they were Farbrausch, the intro would've been nominated for three scene.org awards.
added on the 2007-11-14 21:15:22 by doomdoom doomdoom
And if it was on Amiga it would have been an animation!
added on the 2007-11-14 21:48:39 by okkie okkie
And if it was shit, it would have been on your face....no...wait..
Already 52-thumb up?

What for to waste time on trifles? Give it intro at once in TOP-10 all-time, instead of Heaven Seven.

Because it is necessary to motivate beginning coders!

added on the 2007-11-15 00:38:50 by BiTL BiTL
BiTL: Welcome to the scene! This is what we do.

You'll just have to get used to it, because we sure as HELL aren't going to stop. Because this is a HELL of a lot cooler than complaining about everything.


That demo was fucking cool.
oh, curiously enough, only one more thumb down on the prod, and behold curiously enough from another russian. who also surprinsingly enough also thumbed down on 828 just like their buddies. how curious. :)
in soviet russia good demos thumb you.
added on the 2007-11-15 01:18:14 by psenough psenough
kadet and bitl : banned.
added on the 2007-11-15 01:21:35 by iks iks
i don't like those racist vibes here. my thumb up also was true. but chinese demoscene is an interesting fenomena for sure!
added on the 2007-11-15 02:19:05 by elfh elfh
note to self: good promotional idea.
added on the 2007-11-15 02:32:57 by Gargaj Gargaj
Don't look, who has done a release.
Just watch the result. What's the problem watching demos from china ? You all watch your demos a long time with chinese equipment... Don't believe ? Open your hardware and ooops:

"Made in HongKong"...
added on the 2007-11-15 03:44:49 by D4XX D4XX
Didn't watch the prod yet, but there are deeply disturbing messages from both sides in this thread.

Thumbing up a production because it's just a good 1st attempt from a aspiring and up-and-coming group? WTF? Aren't you suppose to thumb up a prod for being something that stands out from the rest of the prods? I sincerely believe that you should NOT use the thumb up as a back-padding gesture for "You're almost there" or "Good 1st attempt" productions. Thumb ups need to be fully deserved by making something extraordinary - something that will have people in awe.

ps: stop being such a pussy about it, alright? Buddy-voting, geographical voting, same-country voting has ALWAYS been around and WILL always be around. How do you plan to fight it? Ever watched the Eurovision music contest, where people from a certain geography tend to vote for a specific type of music? It's just natural and I see nothing different and disturbing in this case. Just because BiTL and Kadet (and that 3rd russian, too) placed a vote that was incomprehensible to you doesn't mean they are less entitled to their opinion and it certainly does not mean that they should feel the weight of the entire Pouet user base come down on them, because YOU felt it was in place to make a thread to criticise their opinion. GROW UP.
added on the 2007-11-15 08:28:45 by skrebbel skrebbel
Ok, saw the production now and it was more or less as I exspected: Nice, but nothing out of the ordinary - and, sadly, it just proved to be right what I feel about the votes here on Pouet: People are MUCH too generous with handing out "Thumb ups". It's just my 5 cent, but if you read carefully, the text next to the "Thumb up" radiobutton actually says "This prod rulez", while the "Piggy" radiobutton text reads "This prod is ok". To me, the difference is quite big. I thumb up productions that I really feel deserve it. It's probably 5-10 prods a year. The mediocre or "almost there" prods are given a piggy and perhaps an encouraging comment, but that it. No handing out "Thumb ups" to almost any production, just because people made and effort. If it does not absolutely RULE, it does not deserve a "Thumb up" from me.

You can argue with me forever, or you can try to change the Pouet voting system. I think the system is much too black and white. I want more nuances when voting. But that's probably something for a different thread....
And I won't hold it against you, if you'd think I'm russian, when you look at the massive amount of typos in what I just wrote...... ;)