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Dream Equation 2 - scientific paper by Floppy
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screenshot added by Crest on 2003-07-09 03:15:48
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release date : july 2003
release party : Symphony 2003
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 22
  • is ok 26
  • sucks 9
popularity : 1%
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  • rulez 0.23
alltime top: #4356
added on the 2003-07-09 02:48:29 by Crest Crest

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Again a great physical demo by Floppy. This time I even like the music very much. A must see, but you will *really* need a fast machine for some parts of the demo (was even on the compo machine partly f*cking slow).
added on the 2003-07-09 02:51:34 by Crest Crest
rulez!
rulez added on the 2003-07-09 14:45:03 by Optimus Optimus
gret cod, soft body rulze. a teraz po naszemu... maq kawal zajebistego kodu.. jestem pod ogromnym wrazeniem...reszta wiesz jaka jest :) no i muza patryka! czemu nikt o tym nie powiedzial mi wczesniej!!
rulez added on the 2003-07-09 17:32:33 by Mr.Acryl Mr.Acryl
good and bad scenes... but overall very good, this kind of demos are rarely made
rulez added on the 2003-07-09 17:45:10 by shadez shadez
i expected way more from this fter i saw de1.nice music tho
added on the 2003-07-09 18:06:16 by blz blz
Almost good. I don't much like the design or music but much of the physics is great fun to watch (even if it does slow down to a crawl when there are lots of contacts). But what on earth is going on in the scene with the koala?
added on the 2003-07-09 19:17:20 by Pete Pete
Liked it. Unfortunately some scene are really ugly, f.e. the screenshoted one.
added on the 2003-07-09 19:32:21 by tomaes tomaes
Nice physics effects, I've always enjoyed those. Worked fine too, _except_ for 2 scenes which gave me something like 1 frame per 15 seconds (!?) .. Anyway, nice stuff.
rulez added on the 2003-07-09 19:50:24 by break break
Symphony Party Entries Rule :) So of course this One too :) Like it very much, Impressive Show :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-09 22:10:09 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
Too slow ? Maybe that using a semi-implicit integrator and per-particle adaptive time steps could help :-)

I played with cloth simulation and softbody dynamics some years ago. Another way of improvement should be using multiresolution meshs to allows the choose of localy simplified meshe where the acceleration vectors are fairly similar.

Happy coding floppies ! :-p
rulez added on the 2003-07-09 22:21:14 by Colas Colas
Great physics and nice gfx and the soundtrack made me hard :-)
added on the 2003-07-10 01:12:48 by mempheria mempheria
Dream Equation 1 was a surprising atypical production mixing hardcore physics with TaTu music...

with smoother design the new Dream Equation 2 is still an out-and-out hardcore production of a scientist : the main proof is that a poor teddy koala is tortured as a guinea pig of monstuous biomodification experiments (damn i miss my childhood teddy koala so much !)

if a new Dream Equation is planned for the future i would like sexier content than a "scientific paper" : i dream for example of "Dream Equation : girls can do math too!" or "Dream Equation : coitus physics"... though i must admit i find the bouncing and flattening balls already very sexy !

so triple thumbs up for this new Dream Equation, except the unbearable torture scene...


PS: both Dream Equation demos need to run in win98 compatibility mode on my XP box.
rulez added on the 2003-07-10 04:53:44 by Zest Zest
Take your shitty prods elsewhere if you can't release it normally without making a big show out of it, it like everyone else...
sucks added on the 2003-07-10 11:30:09 by kurli kurli
the 1st demo was good, but not this one...
and a part is running at 1 frame all the 2-3 seconds (all jelly balls in the box) on my p4 at 3GHz...
sucks added on the 2003-07-10 11:37:08 by spengler spengler
christ... i totally agree with rainmaker on this one. it's nothing special, but they act as such.
sucks added on the 2003-07-10 11:51:34 by superplek superplek
saw that stuff before.

more than once. but the other ran fluent
sucks added on the 2003-07-10 14:36:52 by delta delta
framerate dropped to nothing in the scene with blobs in cube... on a 3ghz p4...
besides the design sucked, the physics are non-impressive and there is no tatu.
sucks added on the 2003-07-10 15:28:44 by shiva shiva
Where are these parts running at 1 frame per seconds as you say? I can't remember any of these, everything ran fine in a 2Ghz Athlon. I will try it in my own slower computer to see..
added on the 2003-07-10 16:35:25 by Optimus Optimus
expected much more. too f.... slow!
added on the 2003-07-10 20:52:29 by _akira_ _akira_
Definitely better than the previous Equation. I love physic demos and this one also features good music and smooth design.
I want to see fat boobs and bukkake in the next release, please.
rulez added on the 2003-07-10 21:42:43 by dixan dixan
Rather watchable, but doesn't deserve a thumb up, IMHO
added on the 2003-07-10 21:49:04 by shash shash
This definitely has some strong points, but just doesn't open my eyes 100%.
shiva: So, you want commercial music in demos? Shame on you, that shouldn't come from a member of a well known and respected group...
added on the 2003-07-11 00:16:42 by Crest Crest
some nice code in there, but absolutely fails to work as a demo (for me).
added on the 2003-07-11 00:16:46 by ryg ryg
I follow ryg ;) Plus I add :
Forces shown as segments is not esthetic I think. When your soft bodies are stacking it kills the framerate on my poor PIII 600. I had like 5 spf. Plus it happens also in a scene where it's written "real time", are you kiding.
Code is not even impressive, verlet scheme can do this with little effort.
I prefered the previous, it was more modest, and softly designed - different was good.
Next time make real visual and sync demo, or make a different demo, mixing both here is just wrong.
added on the 2003-07-11 01:52:17 by Sanx Sanx
a little bit too much flaming here. it's not THAT ugly. of course, -2 points for attitude.

about speed: runs flawless on my athlon 1000, so i guess the performance problem is related to unpredicted branches on P4. this problem is often underestimated. it gives the P4 a bad reputation amoung coders, which it does not really deserve. any chance using conditional moves? you are not targeting Pentium1 processors anyway.

the physics code itself fails to be impressive. hey, it's just 3 blobs! seeing a few rigid bodies interacting would impress me much more.
added on the 2003-07-11 12:39:35 by chaos chaos
aw, crest .- i seem to have forgotten a smiley there to mark the joking remark as such for everybody to understand :) (!)
added on the 2003-07-11 13:34:34 by shiva shiva
the koala rulez, and the music is relaxing
rulez added on the 2003-07-11 22:32:03 by sokoban sokoban
Nice prod. I hear the makers have lots of friends on partyplace so everybody voted on friendship instead of quality of demo?? :))
Buska :))
added on the 2003-07-12 00:03:13 by magic magic
Ahh.. shut up Magic. You just try to advertise for your group as you are ALWAYS doing. bah!
added on the 2003-07-14 00:17:52 by ghandy ghandy
some design wouldn't hurt here. with proper textures, gfx and models this could've been a hit...
added on the 2003-07-17 10:13:45 by bhead bhead
Not quite as good as the first one. Could have indeed used more design instead of a blurred cloud backdrop. ~_~
added on the 2003-07-17 13:37:08 by elend elend
it's a demo of animation + some 2d, but nothing else. 3ds max effect it's not demo for me:)

p.s. not tu and not td, but nah-kolor better
added on the 2003-07-17 16:32:25 by qaz qaz
Ghandy: It's still the truth what I typed above!
rulez added on the 2003-07-17 16:44:30 by magic magic
i still love DE1.
for this one? sorry guys i'm a P4 owner, and my bro's P3 is not powerful enough... :(
added on the 2003-07-17 16:52:08 by FooLman FooLman
It didn't run too bad on my PC once I closed all background tasks, but I thought the demo was a bit bland on the whole.
added on the 2003-07-19 19:56:34 by Wade Wade
blaah. making a demo on the idea of "we're so cool when we can make a physics engine" just SI TEH SUXXXORZZ. + it was ugly and boring.
sucks added on the 2003-07-20 10:15:51 by raymon raymon
not to the level of floppy productions on Amiga ... :( Some movements are really cool, ando some really slowwww (even on my GF4 4200Ti) ... maybe in 2 or 3 productions they will come to past levels of quality
added on the 2003-07-22 14:08:00 by humphr3y humphr3y
Na moim kompie demo dziala bez problemu :) A1300+R8500. Floppy jest jedna z moich ulubionych amigowych demogroup. Respect for all.
added on the 2003-07-22 14:36:49 by BeheriT BeheriT
Best demo I have seen for a _long_ time (but then I have been away for a month :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-22 16:35:02 by slumgud slumgud
One of technically best demos I've seen last time, however some design would be allright.
rulez added on the 2003-08-14 11:23:15 by gdr gdr
I must have missed something ??

4ME, this was ULTIMATE mix of MATH&VISUALS !

That B some CLEVER shit !
rulez added on the 2003-08-18 23:20:29 by MASS MASS
after trying to watch this on my 300 celeron, i wonder why wasn't this entered in the slideshow category (i got 5(!) frames during the physics part)
added on the 2003-08-26 19:06:04 by Gargaj Gargaj
nice demo :)
anyway, I prefered the first one.
run perfectly on my little amd 1800XP
with a poor ... ("3D") ... Savage 4 card =)
rulez added on the 2003-11-17 19:26:02 by Orion_ Orion_
reallyreallyreally ugly
sucks added on the 2003-11-28 17:33:41 by kusma kusma
Hi.

Paper about method of soft body simulation:

Matyka, M. and Ollila, M. "A pressure model for soft body simulation", Proc. of Sigrad, UMEA, November 2003

has been succesfully released. More info and PDF file are available on my web site:

http://panoramix.ift.uni.wroc.pl/~maq

Best,
added on the 2003-12-09 13:26:13 by maq maq
I forgot to mention that it's a paper about method of soft body behavior which was used in that demo of course :)
added on the 2003-12-09 13:26:59 by maq maq
started good with a good texture from Fame and an ok music
but after that, gfxs are so ugly (specially textures and red bars)
ah yes, it is a math coder prod, ok so yes effects looks good, physics and more, but why Fame did not do the other textures ?
code problem : after the first 3 potatoes, a square with rocks in it appears, it runs at 1 frame per 10 seconds on my P4 1.8 + GeF4, the other effects are smooth
link broken?
Yes, I have completely no idea why demo has been removed from sceme.org, use this link instead:

http://panoramix.ift.uni.wroc.pl/~maq/FLP-DreamEquation2.zip
added on the 2004-07-12 18:16:38 by maq^flp maq^flp
it was prolly dupe on scene.org so we deleted the smaller name one and that was the one linked on pouet. anyways, download url is fixed now..
added on the 2004-07-12 21:59:51 by psenough psenough
gut.
rulez added on the 2004-09-16 19:01:08 by jimmi jimmi
Very good one.
I like this scientific Floppy-prods.
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 18:19:29 by checkoff checkoff
I like DE1 better but neither really work as a demo.
sucks added on the 2005-09-28 22:56:19 by slux slux
Great and tasteful show, I really like this style.
rulez added on the 2005-10-12 04:55:53 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
watched this again today.. stylish show and have i already said that i really love the music of this one? ;)
added on the 2007-04-01 01:04:50 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
Nice physics.
rulez added on the 2007-04-01 03:47:46 by xernobyl xernobyl
Like it more then Archee
rulez added on the 2010-09-01 16:03:17 by jack-3d jack-3d
moar demos need physics!!!
oh, and
Quote:
the 1st demo was good, but not this one...
and a part is running at 1 frame all the 2-3 seconds (all jelly balls in the box) on my p4 at 3GHz...

Quote:
the 1st demo was good, but not this one...
and a part is running at 1 frame all the 2-3 seconds (all jelly balls in the box) on my p4 at 3GHz...

LOL Pentium 4. And on my birthday of 2003 Antlon64 would set the world aflame. And two years later I would get a Pentium 4 for Christmas, which I still have in my desktop ;.<
rulez added on the 2010-09-20 01:58:56 by QUINTIX QUINTIX
Still reminds me some sweet memories during developing this one in Sweden back in 2003 :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-11 18:57:43 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
nice
rulez added on the 2011-12-19 22:13:46 by Frequent Frequent
rather meh
floppy on pc? oh! no more pc floppies ;)
sucks added on the 2015-09-12 17:07:43 by unity1 unity1

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