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Grafikal Jihad by mankind [web]
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release date : july 2003
release party : Euskal 2003
compo : combined demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 94
  • is ok 18
  • sucks 0
popularity : 1%
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  • rulez 0.84
alltime top: #897
added on the 2003-07-27 16:19:29 by zaac zaac

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A software rendering demo:

I hope you have a good config:

1.4GHz mmx cpu
32 bpp graphic card
Windows 2000 | XP !
added on the 2003-07-27 16:34:58 by zaac zaac
well to me it was a tad boring and too long, BUT, the synchronization and visuals were very well done. so thumbs up.
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 16:47:33 by superplek superplek
A lot of work inside, synchro, visuals, nice, nice! Great work zaac!
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 17:18:12 by mrdoob mrdoob
Extremely good! Great style, great design. Someone can code out there :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 18:19:32 by timna timna
it was long and boring indeed, especially the soundtrack was very *yawn*.

however the first parts reminded me a bit of modernday amigademos... stylish, flatshading. and the metrostation was very very blurry and already done years ago by Nomad and Bomb (also in SW) :)
added on the 2003-07-27 18:49:55 by Maali Maali
really good 3d engine coded by mister exel

really nice gfx and 3d gfx by mister zaac except that i haven't succeeded in linking the jihad theme and the dogs, it left a "demonstrating my skills" taste but it's ok.

maali, the metrostation was blurry to avoid to get the same aliasing rendering done years ago by nomad and bomb maybe nah? or maybe they wanted to take this idea to show their respect to nomad and bomb, who knows?

a bit long, but a nice demo for sure, syncs were good, a bit clichee tho.
anyway... thumb up.
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 19:01:19 by __ __
i like
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 19:35:20 by med med
A bit slow in my computer, but I was still quite impressed.
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 19:55:36 by dairos dairos
hi all,
Mindkind will rock you !
i knew that for a long time .
Exel and zaac are like simon and garfulken , ben and gerry's .... they are the magic duo and really like this prod even if the music still need to be improved. Thumbs up folks :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 20:33:27 by nytrik nytrik
I not have this demo to work for pc. :( It stop and write nothng. i am sad when my pc say not to run demo. it make me have anger!
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 20:50:52 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
WOW !!! Impressive ! I like it !
Great Job !
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 21:11:08 by Nicky One Nicky One
"maali, the metrostation was blurry to avoid to get the same aliasing rendering done years ago by nomad and bomb maybe nah? or maybe they wanted to take this idea to show their respect to nomad and bomb, who knows?"

actually they just blurred it, so they hide the ugly anti-aliasing (or lack of it), but then again... who knows?
added on the 2003-07-27 21:18:59 by Maali Maali
stop showing off your lack of comprehension maali ;)
added on the 2003-07-27 21:25:54 by superplek superplek
nice demo, but it didn't knock me out of my socks. didn't run on my 2.4ghz machine though (crashed during loading, .3 seconds after modeswitch), so i had to watch it on my duron650 (yuck :).
added on the 2003-07-27 21:26:46 by ryg ryg
it sure brings back memories of some amigademos... those loosely connected scenes and superboring music kinda ruin the experience, but it's still quite enjoyable.
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 21:29:42 by bhead bhead
surely best demo of 2003 i've seen so far!
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 21:52:27 by shadez shadez
Yeah, reminds me of some Lunix demo. However it was boring as a demo, no matter if the software engine seemed smooth enough (but I am wondering how it will be in my home PC). However, a software rendering teaser at the end definintelly made me smile and I'll thumb this up! :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 22:17:53 by Optimus Optimus
This was going for their intro, lol!!! =)
added on the 2003-07-27 22:18:29 by Optimus Optimus
yeah! good style, good feel :D
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 22:43:15 by mickro mickro
yeah! good style, good feel :D
added on the 2003-07-27 22:44:11 by mickro mickro
There are a lot of parts and effects, very cool for software coding,. not my favorite style of demo though, but thanks for supporting software rendering with such cool productions!
added on the 2003-07-27 23:00:27 by Optimus Optimus
Ehm Sexy.
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 23:02:16 by elend elend
A bit boring, but very classy and very well done. Can't wait to watch it again.
rulez added on the 2003-07-27 23:51:41 by Jare Jare
Very interesting looking demo, the metro scene is cool. Software rendering still rocks ;) and speedwise atleast acceptable.
added on the 2003-07-28 00:11:46 by Crest Crest
The demo was quite boring, but the graphical design was superb! The visual side of this demo is a definite thumbs up.
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 00:20:00 by Kootal Kootal
a touch of class
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 00:50:34 by noname noname
Cool design and music. R00lz!
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 09:08:28 by JosSs JosSs
great texture and color calibration work. too bad the screen was too white at the euskal11. software rendering is back for the better ! great cinematic work also.
bark bark (woua woua) !
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 10:14:06 by krabob krabob
incredible!
amazing visuals and music. neat sync.

"you are very good" :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 13:10:33 by alan alan
no offense, but, this demo could've looked slightly better and have been slightly faster on most hardware if it wasn't for the software rendering. so.. i don't know what kind of point some of you guys are trying to make.. to quote ryg: "competing in a marathon while hopping on 1 leg" ;)
added on the 2003-07-28 13:20:10 by superplek superplek
...the fact is: look the rendring on the photo
which is up: better glowing than on any hw,
reflection on the ground affect rendering a different way also. definitely 2 different technos.

added on the 2003-07-28 13:34:09 by krabob krabob
Ruled. Not quite as much as the intro, but still ruled hard. Actually, I don't think it would run as fast on hardware without an expensive gfx card, although the models could be maybe improved a bit.

I couldn't see much connection with the dogs either, but the demo title made enough sense. And yes, the subway scene has been done before, so have landscapes, so have cubes. So long as it's done differently I don't mind, and this certainly was.

But why is the cracktro at the end? ;)
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 13:34:16 by psonice psonice
waouh da French touch in action !

stylish & beautiful :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 14:35:52 by Zest Zest
nice.
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 15:05:30 by jrk jrk
krabob: bullshit. perhaps "better glowing" (whatever that might be) than anyone did it on hardware before.
added on the 2003-07-28 15:09:04 by superplek superplek
Plek: Hardware glow is generally worse than software glow, unless you use shaders, and if they used shaders I wouldn't be able to see it, and the demo would therefore suck.

A 1% improvement in glow quality is not the point anyway, the point is that software rendering rules, and it rules for the same reason 4k or 64k prods rule (why make a 64k prod when you have broadband + 200gig disk?)

Ever wondered why intros didn't die out when floppys became popular?
added on the 2003-07-28 15:49:47 by psonice psonice
A bit long, but great style and 3d software effects!
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 15:57:35 by reality3D reality3D
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 17:51:19 by Floyd Floyd
strange but very good
loading is a bit long
added on the 2003-07-28 18:48:40 by sokoban sokoban
the whole thing struggled on my setup.. therefore it all looked a mess.. no-way of judging the quality. (800mhz, 256mb, GFII)
added on the 2003-07-28 20:41:10 by darkus darkus
impressive graphical work and design, textures are incredible, Code is near perfect, music is cool ...

just a litle bit long btw
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 20:45:21 by Tex Tex
Quite lovely
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 21:12:37 by dixan dixan
mankind owned the euskal party
rulez added on the 2003-07-28 23:16:26 by bp bp
> "competing in a marathon while hopping on 1 leg" ;)

must be true: but what happen is that the 1-legged runner arrived first and 10 2-hardwared legged were behind :) (sorry)
added on the 2003-07-29 11:35:12 by krabob krabob
very strange demo...... anyway, great work.
added on the 2003-07-29 23:13:18 by qaz qaz
Great concept, awesome realisation ! Music is not that boring, just repetitive, i enjoyed it.

A demo with attitude (there are so few nowadays), respect !
rulez added on the 2003-07-30 08:50:48 by willbe willbe
oh, my vote
rulez added on the 2003-07-30 11:15:56 by qaz qaz
I want better glowing!
added on the 2003-07-30 11:52:08 by bhead bhead
There's a number of concepts in here that would make excellent demos of their own Lots of content, maybe even way too much.

It's probably not intended like that, but the first two transitions a lot like two Mainloop demos (Fuel and Red Army) :)
rulez added on the 2003-07-30 13:38:45 by Shifter Shifter
krabob: you really are a little dumb, no? fr-025 eats this one for breakfast ;)
added on the 2003-07-30 13:44:29 by superplek superplek
rulez added on the 2003-07-30 16:21:27 by diver diver
plek: i think krabob was referring the 1st place this baby got @ euskal.

i found this one rather boring, and long. had great ideas, but not enough for a thumb up.
(and as a coder i may be amazed by the amount of work a decent SW rendering engine requires, but as a beer-consumer-demo-watcher-relaxer-asshole i am becoming my only comment is: "sw rendering? who cares?")
added on the 2003-07-30 16:28:03 by FooLman FooLman
foolman: well this demo might work the same without considering you're a ATI owner or a NVidia one...

and you can enjoy pseudo-vertex/pixels-shaders effects without buying a 300euros Graphic Board ... :)

btw this has not real importance, most important is that the demo is nice
added on the 2003-07-30 18:00:11 by Tex Tex
cool.
rulez added on the 2003-07-30 18:37:19 by got got
"Plek: Hardware glow is generally worse than software glow, unless you use shaders, and if they used shaders I wouldn't be able to see it, and the demo would therefore suck. "

really, you're not being shortsighted at all.

"A 1% improvement in glow quality is not the point anyway, the point is that software rendering rules, and it rules for the same reason 4k or 64k prods rule (why make a 64k prod when you have broadband + 200gig disk?)"

oh well yes it has its charms.

foolman: allthough i, as i already stated, think this is a very good demo, i'm not particulary impressed by the fact that it's software. any realistic coder wouldnt be.

but anyway, i'm not gonna waste any more time on you bunch of amateurs. go get some useful experience outside of the scene and find out what it's about.

added on the 2003-07-30 19:33:28 by superplek superplek
I dunno, I really like this one. It takes its time where it needs to, but is definitely not too slow. Plenty of interesting scenes, and a nice piece of candy at the end for not pressing ESC. Well done.
rulez added on the 2003-07-31 07:08:39 by Jerware Jerware
dont be so an arrogant ass-hole plek.
with best regards,
VeNomSouP
btw. i like the demo, but i also think that it could be slightly better with decent hw rendering or sth..
rulez added on the 2003-07-31 10:20:39 by v3nom v3nom
sorry for my grammar mistakes..
such an arrogant.....
added on the 2003-07-31 10:21:21 by v3nom v3nom
Nice Stuff !!!

Work well on my poor Celeron 700 + Matrox G400
rulez added on the 2003-07-31 15:47:08 by Pops Pops
some problem with Grafikal_Jihad_strech640.exe. at my athlon1800, radeon9000 (latest driver), xp, dx9 it's not correctly works - crash before "coca-cola dog" scene. if i run Grafikal_Jihad_512.exe - all ok and demo finished right.

p.s. commando! oh, my zx spectrum childhood:)
added on the 2003-07-31 16:16:45 by qaz qaz
this doesnt appeal to me.
the textures could be better and the scenes look much too flat.
added on the 2003-07-31 23:29:49 by cp_ cp_
ignore what i said. i was mixing things up.
still no thumb for this one, because of the music.
added on the 2003-08-01 02:03:11 by cp_ cp_
A worthy winner. A bit long and slow for my taste but it's clear there's a lot of work behind the demo, I specially like Zaac's work. The software engine looks very good too.
Congrats Mankind! :)
rulez added on the 2003-08-01 03:50:42 by ithaqua ithaqua
venomsoup; it is true. most of you here don't know goddamn shit about proper programming practice and draw conclusions like blindfolded monkeys. i'm not referring to you by the way, but it is them who are actually being arrogant. they pretend to own the world with their demoscene-ish oldschool 'blabla', mostly not based on anything at all but perhaps the misinterpreted quotes from a few coders making jokes or just being shortsighted pricks too ;). to them i would like to say, come and develop real-time audiovisual code outside of the scene. they would soon find out that they were being shortsighted. is that so arrogant to say?
added on the 2003-08-01 08:56:48 by superplek superplek
to stress my point: i am far from allknowing, but i learnt to evaluate for more than a second before profiling my opinion.
added on the 2003-08-01 08:58:36 by superplek superplek
PLEK KNOWS EVERYTHIG!!!1
(good demo, a bit slow but who cares - we have 900234234 terrahertz computers theese days)
rulez added on the 2003-08-01 09:27:43 by kusma kusma
ok, plek... seems that i mixed things up...
"ALL YOUR SCENE BELONGS TO US!!" ;-)
added on the 2003-08-01 10:06:14 by v3nom v3nom
i don't wanna flame on this prod page...
so i shut up now..
added on the 2003-08-01 10:07:21 by v3nom v3nom
wouldnt make sense to flame someone not flaming you, or would it?
added on the 2003-08-01 13:17:19 by superplek superplek
I like mankind's productions. They have originality touches, and it rulez!
I liked this. Nice design in the first part, even the music didn't annoy me too much. The pixelated-image-on-black-sticks -part was maybe a bit long.. all in all good stuff.
rulez added on the 2003-08-04 10:07:39 by break break
Very interesting demo.
I feel like I've been watching an amiga demo :) The only glitch IMHO is the music, the rythm of the demo suffers from that.
The subway scene is just wow, great lighting.
rulez added on the 2003-08-06 01:03:27 by Sanx Sanx
Very good scenes and stuff, especially the subway, but I don't think the rendering engine is good enough, sorry. Too slow, and to jagged-looking sometimes. (I've written better and faster 3d-engines, but I can't compete with this artwork!)
added on the 2003-08-08 00:16:15 by emon emon
To software-render, or not to software-render. That is the ongoing question. Ultimately it's up to the coder, but I do feel that this production would've benefitted from hardware.

All the same, nice, but needs to be shorten for my pathetic attention span.
rulez added on the 2003-08-08 07:14:24 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
Emon ! I can't wait to see it ! (if it's true -it must be true-, you are the man for my forthcoming Mkd PC demo) !

PS: Exel, you are kicked !
added on the 2003-08-08 09:40:37 by zaac zaac
oh, you guys... just WAIT for my new superduper sw-3dengine! it will make every coder cry for mercy, and make even PLEK go back to sw-rendering!! ;)
added on the 2003-08-08 15:16:31 by kusma kusma
Final version is about to be released.
Stay tuned :)
added on the 2003-08-12 14:42:19 by Tex Tex
Final version is now available.
added on the 2003-08-12 14:52:58 by Tex Tex
great work
rulez added on the 2003-08-21 18:06:19 by spengler spengler
i don't see why a final was needed, the party version was already perfect =)
added on the 2003-10-27 02:03:03 by Zest Zest
Wow! Are all guys in mankind mutant dogs?
rulez added on the 2003-11-06 18:35:14 by ham ham
just great! a real deal of code skill proved here.
rulez added on the 2003-11-06 19:02:20 by Duckers Duckers
*yawn*
added on the 2003-11-25 01:06:21 by Gargaj Gargaj
Very boring, atleast for me, and nothing in this prods really impressed :(
added on the 2003-12-06 12:53:49 by shash shash
wow :) really impressive look.. The bump stuff at the start rocks.. Also, the slight blur makes it look more real.. Hmm.. I think the scenes like the subway look like the typical prerendered animations (cut scenes or whatever) that are featured in lots of games nowadays.. :) Or something.. Im going to have breakfast.. mmmh.
rulez added on the 2003-12-06 13:33:39 by loaderror loaderror
I have been very impressed by the global way this demo is designed. There are some very nice ideas inside, and the end-part is just pure fun !
Can't wait for next Mankind releases..
rulez added on the 2004-01-18 15:56:19 by norecess norecess
one word: --ROCKZ--
rulez added on the 2004-02-16 10:48:15 by toxie toxie
my previous comment was lost
i remembered it is good for a tmb up
rulez added on the 2004-02-21 19:16:13 by Zone (leZone) Zone (leZone)
I've only just got round to watching this, and I'm utterly blown away. The textures, design and visuals as a whole are magnificent, the transitions were cool and the demo lasts for ages with plenty of variation. The music wasn't really to my taste, but works perfectly in the context of the demo. And I adored the end credits too.

Overall an excellent demo!
rulez added on the 2004-03-02 00:38:47 by Wade Wade
*almost* really very cool...
detailed comments later
the 8bit endpart ruled anyway
added on the 2004-03-02 01:44:21 by blala blala
f**king greet!
rulez added on the 2004-03-02 04:51:35 by pK pK
OUI! great FX great sincro, and nice design and colour scheme...too lame that the party projector showed screwed with 200% brightness...now at home reviewed again, and today, almost a year later, reviewed again and loves this guys! thanks!
rulez added on the 2004-06-07 12:58:53 by JaK JaK
well...
ofcourse boring.
obvious blur overuse ( looks like zoom3 ).
overall looks more like an engine showoff than a demo.
anyway respect for coding such engine and here is my vote :)
rulez added on the 2004-06-07 13:27:13 by apricot apricot
fucking good!
this prod is not boring, it has lot's of cool efects and it's well polished. A lot of work here.
Mankind rules!
rulez added on the 2004-06-17 14:04:27 by Grover Watrous Grover Watrous
let's say its ok until it comes to its last quarter :) beginning definitely rules hard !
added on the 2004-06-21 11:41:11 by apricot apricot
Stunning and totally underrated!

I'll make this my new coup de Coeur!
Forgot the thumb to go with my heart.
rulez added on the 2004-11-05 18:13:26 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
Its indeed a great prod, inspiring!
rulez added on the 2004-11-05 18:45:38 by quisten quisten
Nice, varied, good use of oldskool and newschool stuff, cute walking cartoon dog, nice engine, good use of overlays, nice mix of stuff, most scenes was above average.
rulez added on the 2004-11-05 19:48:16 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
most scenes WERE
+ Great software rendering
+ Nice gfx/design
+ Music
+ "Highscore" greatings screen

- Some parts are boring
rulez added on the 2005-01-10 22:45:43 by Frozzy Frozzy
Good look.
rulez added on the 2005-09-17 05:01:31 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
Really a great demo but please stay on Amiga, please!
rulez added on the 2006-02-17 11:25:40 by ghandy ghandy
ok
rulez added on the 2006-09-15 03:37:41 by texel texel
a really good looking demo, but really boring too
and the music kinda sucks
added on the 2006-09-15 06:57:43 by Sverker Sverker
all except the music is great for me. not that music is bad though.
rulez added on the 2006-09-16 20:21:55 by anesthetic anesthetic
rulez added on the 2006-09-16 22:17:15 by magic magic
nice software rendering
yep, damn nice!
rulez added on the 2006-12-18 22:14:03 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
Zaac: we need you back!!
added on the 2007-01-24 22:38:50 by mrdoob mrdoob
unique but a bit long
rulez added on the 2007-01-24 22:50:54 by src src
The design, the gfx.....it was mere candy for the eye. Agree with some here that it was maybe a tad long, but maybe Im just tierd ;) Great work. Hope to see more from you guys.

PS:How about some graff on the subway next time ;)
rulez added on the 2007-03-02 22:06:03 by tFt tFt
Great!
rulez added on the 2007-03-04 10:39:57 by Cj Cj
Most scenes are waaaaay too long. But still very enjoyable to watch and great overall quality.
rulez added on the 2007-04-04 00:17:23 by knox knox
sw \o/.

The pleasant scenes-colorschemes compensate the dull (ihmo) zik.
rulez added on the 2007-04-04 02:20:25 by bdk bdk
rulez added on the 2007-04-04 02:31:54 by aha aha
It felt average fare about authority for me. Sorry, but it didn't fit for me - maybe the music was distracting me from the scenes. 6/10
added on the 2007-05-15 01:06:10 by hamster hamster
Scenes are only loosely connected, there seems to be a lack of real consistency. But the software rendering is pretty neat and there are some nice effects. The cartoon dog was pretty neat, as were the credits and subway.
added on the 2007-06-14 19:17:49 by Nezbie Nezbie
vidcap please
oh. it worked anyway. didnt see it was a software demo. nice one indeed, but some parts where boring. kewl music.
rulez added on the 2007-06-14 21:10:49 by oldaccount oldaccount
Never voted for this? One of my favorite pc software rendering, and side scrolling/layered, demos.
rulez added on the 2007-06-14 21:34:26 by xernobyl xernobyl
also never voted for this? weird..
was pretty decent
rulez added on the 2007-06-14 22:03:06 by psenough psenough
rulez added on the 2007-07-22 19:16:26 by las las
that was boring, sorry
added on the 2008-05-18 00:51:17 by dimouse dimouse
great work, I like it; felt quite subliminal .
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 01:13:40 by untitled untitled
Whoa damn great style
rulez added on the 2008-11-25 00:29:53 by relias abardon relias abardon
You have to watch this for the credits alone! Awesome.
rulez added on the 2009-03-01 00:28:58 by raer raer
TPTPTPTLPTOL-TP-TOL TURLERI
rulez added on the 2009-03-01 00:44:41 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
software rendering? wtf. stunning gfx.
rulez added on the 2009-03-12 20:14:03 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
Nice
rulez added on the 2009-03-19 22:16:54 by Joghurt Joghurt
A very incoherent and aimless demo, that completely failed to captivate me.

Good effort on the tech side of things though. I just feel it was a slightly inane exercise to use it on rather mundane things like spinning wireframe objects and blur/glow. :)
added on the 2009-03-20 18:42:54 by tomaes tomaes
OMFG I remember the first time I saw this. Amazing. SW rendering FTW
rulez added on the 2010-02-12 16:46:33 by xteraco xteraco
Great design, real demo spirit.
rulez added on the 2010-02-12 16:51:05 by 4mat 4mat
graphic design ftw!
rulez added on the 2010-05-25 01:59:08 by zeroshift zeroshift
respect
rulez added on the 2010-05-26 20:07:28 by Sir Sir
rulez added on the 2010-07-04 18:38:35 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
what 4mat said
a little bit too incoherent&long for me

but in some scenes the design+gfx are really awesome
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 00:15:15 by wullon wullon
Too long, but excellent demo.
rulez added on the 2011-08-03 10:33:50 by jack-3d jack-3d
Design is great.
rulez added on the 2011-08-03 11:05:30 by closed closed
A good one.
rulez added on the 2011-08-03 11:17:05 by chromag chromag
how can i please delete old stupid comments?
i like this one, looks still great.
added on the 2011-08-03 11:22:04 by v3nom v3nom
Excellent!
rulez added on the 2011-12-18 17:12:41 by Frequent Frequent
Very fucking cool, some of the best 3d scenes I remember ever seeing.
rulez added on the 2013-07-24 18:19:45 by noby noby
good looking.
rulez added on the 2013-12-16 19:07:22 by branch branch
arty
rulez added on the 2013-12-31 00:40:21 by T$ T$
Music didnt suit me, but I have a soft spot for Software Rendering and really like blurring. Some really nice gfx and ideas also.
rulez added on the 2014-06-30 17:42:11 by leGend leGend
messy & blurry gfx, so-so music. rather mediocre.

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