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release date : december 2003
release party : the Ultimate Meeting 2003
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 110
  • is ok 45
  • sucks 10
popularity : 8%
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alltime top: #250
added on the 2003-12-29 20:39:12 by Gargaj Gargaj

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excellent demo!
lovely sync, great visuals, nice paniq-track.
more please! :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 20:39:55 by Gargaj Gargaj
Medium v2.0 or something. :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 20:49:20 by tomaes tomaes
would have been nicer in 64 kb ... but rules anyway
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 20:52:59 by nytrik nytrik
What Nytrik said.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 21:13:05 by sagacity sagacity
Like medium, but (for some odd reason) less interesting. The music was a killer at the partyplace.
added on the 2003-12-29 21:20:56 by dixan dixan
the music was not to my taste, nor was it any good. the whole demo was just too boring/uninventive.
added on the 2003-12-29 21:23:26 by gloom gloom
nice visuals. got boring at some point though.
added on the 2003-12-29 21:26:58 by hhhhhhh hhhhhhh
fucking excelent! :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 21:39:06 by kusma kusma
nicey.
looks and sounds pretty.

i"m not a fan of the transition cliches, but that's still a very nice demo.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 21:48:20 by florent florent
damn hot
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 21:55:02 by Pete Pete
innovative soundtrack, music sync should be better... i liked medium much more
added on the 2003-12-29 21:58:08 by shadez shadez
For the platform incompability.
sucksadded on the 2003-12-29 22:00:06 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Maybe I enjoyed this one more the second time, but it's cool :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 22:06:51 by shash shash
arneweisse, "plaform incompatibility"?
added on the 2003-12-29 22:44:46 by ryg ryg
Sweet design. Clearly the best demo so deserved to win.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 22:49:47 by franky-- franky--
i like it.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 23:17:05 by abductee abductee
It doesn't really appeal to my regular tastes, but I can see that it's a very good demo and has some interesting visuals and synchronization.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 23:23:21 by Wade Wade
yeah, i had the weird association with medium too only a bit more blurry.. :P Prolly the vivid colours make the association.

It's a nice demo in overall and not a visu-demo as i would have expected from FR since visu joined them... Lovely, keep going! :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 23:32:57 by Tron Swanson Tron Swanson
fucking excellent
rulezadded on the 2003-12-29 23:39:07 by superplek superplek
I didn't like the music, but the demo has style and near perfectly executed
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 00:23:43 by reality3D reality3D
very nice
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 00:25:23 by wb wb
high level, abstract synchonized visualz on a great muzak, nothing bad to say, all is really perfect
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 00:40:46 by sokoban sokoban
Back to Black? It really made me think of fr-06: black 2000 and while the visuals are interesting and the sync is spot on the music wasn't really my taste. Maybe it'll grow on me over time but i think i have to give it a piggy for now.
added on the 2003-12-30 00:52:17 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
very german. very farbrausch. very mindcandy. i want werkzeug for my birthday. (too late for xmas)

ryg: has stefan _ever_ known what he was talking about? :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 01:09:23 by phoenix phoenix
nice...big plus: ran on the old crappy riva tnt i have in my box right now. good work.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 02:06:16 by coma coma
big but fast as hell and excellent high class visuals and music ...

thanks guys
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 03:08:41 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
I still love the Farbrausch style!
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 03:29:02 by freeze freeze
rulez
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 05:18:11 by q q
schon.

paniq´s soundtrack simply rocks. the idea of on-time-sync isn´t really new, but shown in a quite cool way in this production. very stylish.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 05:27:17 by sobec sobec
Me likes this very much but no thumbs up since it's one of our own.
added on the 2003-12-30 08:52:31 by Visualice Visualice
Ok. Very nice ideas, but the rythm of the demo is a bit messy. Like Aleen I find that it's close the black demo series, plus a nice medium (Red and Blue) touch.
added on the 2003-12-30 09:41:04 by Sanx Sanx
thanks for the feedback so far!

making this demo was great fun, and i'm glad it's done. the average demoscener shall no longer think of psytrance as the dutch-colored-music ;)
it's strange to see people comparing it to medium because i didn't think of that demo once.
added on the 2003-12-30 10:22:39 by cp_ cp_
The visuals are impressive ! ( especially liked the particle perturbed-room scene ).
But the music didn't got me in, sorry ...
Thumbs up anyway, for the eye-pleasure it gave me ... :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 10:40:10 by kohai kohai
this is a demo which would probably rule so so so so so so much at a party, on the big screen and with a bad-ass sound system... but watching it at home was pretty much non-exciting. The visuals are technically impressive, but not my taste, and the music, although well done for its style, needs a very defined mood to really enjoy it.

Thus, only based on my personal taste (which noone has to agree to), it's a piggy. I'll let the thumb available just in case I can watch it in a different mood which suits me better (or, why not, put it on my bigscreen and phat soundsystem at my office). So let's call this a "piggy with a future possibility of thumbs up". Very much worth the download anyway, and I do recommend everyone to, at least, watch it, and, if possible, enjoy it :)
added on the 2003-12-30 10:46:34 by Jcl Jcl
Really like the feeling in this one. Nice music and really darn good looking visuals. Nice going!

"platform incompability", I guess lator/stefan/whatever wan'ts to see this on a Mac?
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 12:22:54 by ekoli ekoli
The visuals are astonishing. Something new.. Music could be better.. for me a bit too experimental boom boom. The finish is GREAT.. would have been great to have more of the kindof music that was at the end..
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 12:47:09 by phred phred
Cheers! great combination of FX (glow, enviros,mesh noises,bones?¿). great sinch with music and pretty damn effective cameras. btw that first tree with camera movement reminds me a bit this old demo of mine Choose great demo guyz!!!!!
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 13:03:52 by JaK JaK
to quote cp:

Quote:
it's strange to see people comparing it to medium because i didn't think of that demo once


thats exactly the same what i am thinking. medium is somehow really different. as "a deepness in the sky" by mfx was released it reminded me more of medium.

not this one.
added on the 2003-12-30 13:41:39 by sobec sobec
this is by all means a GREAT demo. style, sync, music, sparkling graphics. But i leave my thumbs be for two reasons. first, it was terribly slow (about 10 fps) on my gf-fx5200 + 1,8 ghz. and secondly, i was kind of disapointed by the lack of originality and artwork here (for a farbrausch prod). Fr has done way better prods in the past, this was kinda lets-throw-together-some-bad-ass-code-jam-and-sync-it-like-a-real-disco... which can be a killer at the big screen but didn't quite fetch me in my chair with the headset. But keep going farbrausch!
added on the 2003-12-30 13:45:23 by Duckers Duckers
it´s not slow. runs fine on my machine (1,4 Ghz, Geforce2, 1024x768). and the demo itself rulez.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 14:42:02 by diver diver
sorry... my mistake. No it isnt slow :) just my system that was messed up at the moment i ran it. Yes, its a good prod, but from farbrausch i expect more than good ;).
added on the 2003-12-30 14:56:13 by Duckers Duckers
I'm not sure if it's just sloppishly made or deliberately abstract, but the "textures" look a bit silly. It's certainly *not* bad as demos go, but I'm not going to party naked on account of it.
added on the 2003-12-30 15:17:05 by Shifter Shifter
I liked Medium quite a bit better.
added on the 2003-12-30 15:27:59 by elend elend
can't understand all the medium comparisons at all, this reminds me of Poem to a Horse if anything ...

Medium was much more abstract and raw, maybe it's tje reds and the sparks ... sheesh
If the animation had been far more aggressive, this would have been a good demo.
added on the 2003-12-30 18:35:07 by asasel asasel
thanks everybody for the words of appreciation.

"But i leave my thumbs be for two reasons. first, it was terribly slow (about 10 fps) on my gf-fx5200 + 1,8 ghz. "

blame the drivers. it runs perfectly on my 1.2ghz gf42ti. expect a fixed final or fixed drivers from nv soon.

the demo was really ment to allow you to dance to it. if you choose to sit while watching it, you'll be unsatisfied. and to those who "expect": we are individuals. our work is individual. we have a common label but this doesnt mean we have to stick to a corporate identity or something. we just realize ideas.

everything has been planned in this demo, we really thought about the stuff we did (or we at least believed we did). you should enjoy the music on a good sound system btw, on crap systems you wont get out any nice sounds.
added on the 2003-12-30 18:39:18 by paniq paniq
even tho it looks like their 64k's, the music alone makes me want to thumb it up :) and and add me to those who could see the medium-resemblance :)
well done guys!
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 18:47:50 by reptile reptile
Fatal error - Alt tab error =(
WinXPHome (alle updates)
GeForce3 neuste WHQL Treiber
AMD Athlon XP 1900+
768 MB DDR RAM
added on the 2003-12-30 18:50:41 by 0x$$ 0x$$
another good fr prod.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 19:07:07 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
I must admit this is not quite what I was expected when downloading. (Not that it really matters what I expect.) Pretty damn cool.

The trees reminded me of this demo: http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=7420

If I had to bitch whine complain about one thing it would be the all too common scene habit of sticking everything in dead center. At this point I must confess to taking some cinematography course earlier in my life, so I probably look at frame composition with a more critical eye than most. But still, to me Moppi Productions is the only group that put significant thought into framing

All the same, this is a radical gnarly boss demo.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 19:10:59 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
After downloading it again it worked...also the zip-file size was different from the first one.

I like most fr prods but this one was not my taste and the music was annoying =(
added on the 2003-12-30 19:23:49 by 0x$$ 0x$$
paniq: I suppose I have a good sound system.. :-) I especially bought a amplifiers and speakers for my computer to compose music.. it's not that I don't like your music. I'm a regular requestor of Ulysergum at scenemusic.net...
The end of the tune is THAT THAT nice.. watched it again.. I wished the whole tune had more of that chord progression things in it..
I mean techno doesn't mean there mustn't be chord progressions.. :-)
added on the 2003-12-30 19:38:00 by phred phred
thom: watch the demo again a few times. the center objects are ment to distract from the background, which also holds some details. however yeah, thats a nice idea to follow: putting more in the background.

phred: the music i did was also part of the concept. we wanted dark goa music, such as spirallianz or midi miliz are producing. i even went a bit away from the scheme by adding more "israeli drive" to it, but i refused from doing any relieving melodic progression in the center of the music, because i wanted the music to be gripping/grinding - see the ending as a kind of "release" of the listener, telling him that its all good again in some way. i'd really like to read some nice interpretation attempts about our demo. ;)

lovers: please dont just say you love it or you like it... i'd really like to know what you liked.
added on the 2003-12-30 19:53:24 by paniq paniq
to be added: i dont even know medium.
added on the 2003-12-30 19:57:53 by paniq paniq
paniq: medium is good to know http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=4771 - tough, in my opinion it doesn't really resemble your demo.
added on the 2003-12-30 20:05:32 by asasel asasel
Hehe.. Kick-Ass Great Demo... and nice Soundtrack :) But more Tracks like "FR-025 Style" ... this one was da Best *gg*

and btw, where is the Tune available for download? ;)

Größten Respekt muss ich sagen :)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 20:14:42 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
paniq: Dead center creates a dead frame. This can be useful in a "moment of silence" or end of a work, but during times of motion it is not the best way to visual place an object on screen. I can easily think of many moments in this demo where ancient concepts such as "rule of thirds" would've helped tremendously.

For example, you have that space ship moving about in most scenes. Offsetting that with whatever it's flying around would create a much greater sense of depth. Dead center elimates depth completely.
Actually, even the screenshot above is a good example. If you cover up the left one third the remaing image begins to look more lively. The dynamic of the "ship" moving towards the object is more pronounced. Subtle, but that's what good cinematography is all about.
And I'll tell you one thing I really liked: The flag stones (or whatever) were not flat and even. They were all crooked and stuff. That's a nice touch.

Just call me optimus...
fuck you are right. STOP THE PRESS! WE DO THAT AGAIN!

--- i suppose thats what keeps demo development alive ;)

anyway, thanks for the tip. thats helpful.
added on the 2003-12-30 21:16:22 by paniq paniq
Herr Ritter ich muss ihnen sagen, sie rocken!
rulezadded on the 2003-12-30 21:30:40 by Fzool Fzool
almost perfect :> on reflection it was ... superb colours, light and forms ... and such precise sychronizaiton with sound (oh please please extract the music and save us having to rip it)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 00:05:12 by Zzed Zzed
realy nice stuff! :) I enjoyed this.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 00:50:38 by LHS LHS
Well, I can appreciate the work that went into this (and that it has a 16x10 mode for my laptop! Yay, now two demos that take advantage of widescreen!) but it's not my thing. It's very German übertechnoish. And what's with the German colorscheme: Black, blue, red and purple? Whee! All in all pigface.
added on the 2003-12-31 02:55:46 by crusader crusader
i liked this prod, as most of fr prods, alot... you can tell the musican and the visual artist worked together on this. and ofcourse paniq was successfull in giving the tune a midi miliz style (and i like midi miliz alot too :)
so...
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 05:01:53 by panoramix panoramix
They Did It Again

farb-rausch = Design
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 10:54:57 by Mike 3D Mike 3D
it's worthless - and again, it wouldn't deserve any comments. but although i should have learned better, i can't hold it this time: the people who made this obviously lack the slightest idea of composition in every single dimension being used or missused. and the "nice interpretation" is: you don't have the slightest talent. you should better stop doing this, it's annoying.
added on the 2003-12-31 11:16:18 by noize noize
The best I've seen in months
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 13:15:20 by epsilum epsilum
noize, geez - what's worse? having no talent or losing against som...

well, should we really start attacking each other on a personal level?
anyway i can live quite well with one single person annoyed by my dilettantism.
added on the 2003-12-31 13:42:33 by cp_ cp_
it's not my favorite style for demos, but this one - rule
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 13:47:59 by qaz qaz
ups, style of demos
added on the 2003-12-31 13:49:23 by qaz qaz
looks like someone hacked noizes account ;))))
added on the 2003-12-31 13:55:42 by paniq paniq
Its ok but popular demo is miles better. if there was dancing people in this one it would be cool!
paniq: keep cool, if pouet is not the place where anyone can freely say his opinion about thre releases, where is it? :)
if it's his opinion, ok. if all ppl had the same opinion, this would be the borg-collective.
added on the 2003-12-31 14:40:34 by abductee abductee
awesome visuals
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 14:44:35 by badpeon badpeon
paniq: either that, or he's very bitter about getting 2nd place :)
added on the 2003-12-31 14:59:15 by phoenix phoenix
good one. but not outstanding demo by Farbrausch.
added on the 2003-12-31 15:01:27 by zeebr zeebr
noize: well, atleast this demo works on radeon cards :)
added on the 2003-12-31 15:06:38 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
a_lee_N : What a poor comment .... I really think that the kolor demo is mor finished and contain obviously more graphical work .
Env map is the easiest thing to do when you don't want / don't have time / don't know how to do proper mapping.
To me env map is alway supicious :)
added on the 2003-12-31 15:16:43 by nytrik nytrik
It's a nice demo. Nice and clean psy trance track (must have rocked at the party) and the visuals worked ok. It only feels like something is missing, to really kick the wow factor.

This looks like medium in the sense that both demos are red-blue-white on black and synced to dance music (although medium used house). Apart from that, they are obviously alot different.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 15:20:06 by moT moT
tee: ist doch okay ;)

nytrik: i'm not very bound to technical aspects. we just choosed what we liked. its more that we work with our demo system like you work with a 3d tool: of course it is capable of doing a lot more than what was shown - on the other hand, cp had his own imaginations about how the visuals should look and all technical limits we encountered could be solved - so, yes, if you can not find anything interesting for you in the aesthetics, you might find the technical side pretty reduced. then again you might say that we always are bound to our talents or capabilities at a specific moment in time - to be true (noize has quite a point there) we have made ourselves guilty of not pushing ourselves completely to the limits. there is simply no excuse for that and all i can give you is the promise that we will try harder in the future. i'm sorry if you are disappointed.
added on the 2003-12-31 15:36:01 by paniq paniq
crap... boring and ugly
sucksadded on the 2003-12-31 16:21:30 by spengler spengler
nytrik: well, my comment of this demo is further up in this thread. What's good looking and not is clearly a subjective matter and pleasing everybody is not an easy (if not an impossible) task, but farb-rausch usually manages to please the better half of the crowd and they have good hardware compatibility.

If you checked the poll at scene.org some time ago that asked what graphic cards people use/intend to get, ATI got 59.1% while NVIDIA only got 37.6% so I find it somewhat ignorant to release stuff that only works on NVIDIA-cards, and even more disturbing that they don't even care to fix it for the final. If people want to use shader-stuff in their demos, they should atleast make it work on all cards that support it.
added on the 2003-12-31 16:43:04 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
great code+design+visuals, music killed the demo
added on the 2003-12-31 16:48:03 by [EviL] [EviL]
I found it quite boring.
IMHO, visuals are nice, music is not.
added on the 2003-12-31 16:58:14 by pan pan
nice colorscheme, something new at last. =)
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 17:16:35 by dalezr dalezr
suits me
added on the 2003-12-31 18:01:54 by avatar avatar
cp, you need to add more shit to your prods, as in einschlag.. this is way to prety, we know you can do better.
added on the 2003-12-31 18:22:35 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Looks strange but not really good to me.
Confusing somehow.
added on the 2003-12-31 18:43:51 by mizc mizc
Impressive as always, but nothing new either.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 19:39:20 by kurli kurli
*gjesp*
added on the 2003-12-31 20:00:32 by quisten quisten
I might be old fashioned but I can't understand why it is 11mb big? Still, kinda very cool demo.
rulezadded on the 2003-12-31 21:42:10 by dairos dairos
i really hate to see the bashing going on here between lthe 1st and 2nd ranked prods - i enjoyed both and found them visually and musically pleasing (i wonder why people ramble about paniq's track, i must say it really accompanies the presented visuals well and creates a certain mood, just good stuff imho).

the whole display adapter vendor support thing is merely a detail, not something to endlessly trip over, certainly not if, like the kolor guys gracefully did, admitted that it was a matter of production focus (very understandable, it's more fun to spend the little spare time you have on building an actual demo than writing several codepaths for an engine (which should be redundant, but thats another discussion, really)); disappointment is okay, bashing people over it continuously is just plain boring.

back to the subject; both demos were quite different, but i really can't say that one is better than the other; it surprises me that people present their opinions as a fact a little too much to my liking, since as a_lee_n already stated, taste in these kind of things is so to say, 'fucking subjective'.

where i wanted to go: both are obviously productions with a solid quality level, each with their very own direction. either like or dislike, but as opposed to a *lot* of productions here (totally indiscriminately in respect to who they come from) i think it's unfair to say that either one is crap.

oh well.. uhh. yeah, i'll get back to the beer now :)
added on the 2003-12-31 22:22:09 by superplek superplek
not my taste but smooth as hell! (as usual)
to everybody who is interested in the music:
http://www.paniq.de - most recent productions
added on the 2003-12-31 23:03:05 by paniq paniq
Paniq: the music is fantastic! Overall a very interesting and entertaining demo, deserves a lot of thumbs-up.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-01 13:02:44 by Corial Corial
As usual I'm gushing over Paniq's tune. The demo itself isn't bad but may be a tad too random art for me to actually know what to do with it.
dairy: the code and the visuals are around 2mb large. the rest of the size belongs to the soundtrack, because we didn't accept the loss of sound-quality if the sizelimit was not an issue.
added on the 2004-01-02 02:38:27 by cp_ cp_
something new.
i like.
good job.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-02 03:39:18 by krunoce krunoce
chaos: I found a bug, if check windowed in start panel and move the demo-window I get a "Fatal Error" with the text "alt tab error"
added on the 2004-01-02 12:48:05 by tolemaC tolemaC
seen better releases. this ONE is not outstanding :/
added on the 2004-01-02 22:33:34 by NuKem NuKem
nice visuals, nice sound, nice flow, nice everything
rulezadded on the 2004-01-02 22:50:02 by jazzman jazzman
i found it odd that people call it generic, to me this is one of the most well done and good looking farbrausch demos to date.
i sort of feel a slight resemblance to fr-03, RunAwayResponsibleRemix, and to Medium as well... just with more glow :)

the music is great, especially the "orchestral" string part around 4:20, altho it doesn't remind me of goa... it's more like techno i guess, at first i thought it was a ronny track :)

oh yeah, the alt-tab bug is really annoying, please fix that :) and add always on top too :)
added on the 2004-01-02 23:47:34 by Gargaj Gargaj
It's a smasher!
rulezadded on the 2004-01-03 00:30:31 by Tongue Tongue
Great visuals and I'm starting to think the music fits it quite well, too. The clean graphics could have fit better with cleaner music.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-03 02:45:39 by cj7 cj7
definite party demo, i wish i would've seen this one on the big screen. works still pretty well on a monitor, too. overused high saturated / contrasted colors work surprisingly well and are refreshingly different from the current mainstream. on the other hand all this flashy, glowing, glittering look is already overused. but heck, what am i complaining about when i still enjoyed watching this demo quite much.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-03 10:16:23 by melw melw
damn FR! please slow down ! each time you release a major demo it becomes my all-time favorite ! it's really disturbing for my believing i'm not easily influenced :p
rulezadded on the 2004-01-04 02:52:06 by Zest Zest
bah. crap... tron2.0 style in an ugly way. boring synchs + music. not my taste.
sucksadded on the 2004-01-04 11:13:12 by pro pro
sleek design, nice flow, music is not my cup of tea, but that's my problem.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-05 09:24:28 by zoom zoom
nice one. I liked the style, the visuals weren't groundbreaking perhaps but they were still plenty cool enough. Music was excellent too, but maybe not pushing the limits hard enough for my tastes (although i was really into this stuff some time back :)
rulezadded on the 2004-01-05 14:54:25 by psonice psonice
paniqs music=rulez shit!
and the visuals fit to the sound!
what more do you want?
rulezadded on the 2004-01-06 13:13:38 by toxie toxie
Farbrausch could've done it better.
sucksadded on the 2004-01-06 13:15:48 by tomcat tomcat
I guess I've seen worse flybys. The music was decent and the visual style was ok. They just could've been used so much better..
added on the 2004-01-06 13:25:01 by break break
rulez rulez rulez!!!
really strong demo, with interesting things wich are perfectly done, i trully enjoyed that one.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-06 13:25:50 by vagus vagus
mal was anderes!!
nice mood, nice design/stylee..
habe ihre musik noch immer gemocht, herr ritter, weiter so!!
--> all thumbs up (so often for fr-prods..)

mfg venomsoup
rulezadded on the 2004-01-06 15:28:01 by v3nom v3nom
best farbrausch i've seen so far.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-06 21:53:14 by rtz rtz
fr is back... visualice virus has disappeard.
The all world feels better now.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-07 20:50:57 by daddyvx daddyvx
gargaj: if it'd be my track, it had a real bassdrum :)

props to cp and paniq! cool shit
added on the 2004-01-07 21:12:40 by rpfr rpfr
Abstract 3D with no sense but nice shapes/colors/reflexions... End of 90's demo-design revival ?

Scenes swap quickly, it's not boring at all to watch. Nice work !
rulezadded on the 2004-01-08 07:43:33 by willbe willbe
At last a good fr production... phew
rulezadded on the 2004-01-09 08:44:10 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
this demo is the definition of good style.
rulezadded on the 2004-01-09 09:27:21 by Carandiru Carandiru
yeah, stylish!
rulezadded on the 2004-01-09 19:41:39 by js js
ronny: yeah that's why it was so suspicious :)
added on the 2004-01-11 21:41:45 by Gargaj Gargaj
I dont like this prod :/ its not my style.. But the sync is really great. I think music can be improved!
sucksadded on the 2004-01-13 08:29:49 by Qdor Qdor
thumbs up
rulezadded on the 2004-01-21 01:07:36 by cubon cubon
Liked the concept

but the music is quite average !!
rulezadded on the 2004-02-04 19:47:14 by _wheely_ _wheely_
Rocks the spot. The visuals are great but the music is fantastic, very well produced.
rulezadded on the 2004-02-18 10:12:20 by dennis dennis
"alt tab error" in windowed mode when i try to move the demo-window :/

the demo however is nice.
rulezadded on the 2004-02-23 22:29:32 by red red
I love your code ;-)
rulezadded on the 2004-02-25 20:22:32 by vivax vivax
loved this demo. music is great, overall look and feel of the production is really cool.
rulezadded on the 2004-02-25 21:01:28 by Bagpuss Bagpuss
something fresh, something new, i just love it.
looks cool, the music is okay.
psytrance for the ppl.
rulezadded on the 2004-03-03 11:54:14 by teo teo
I'd love to have the soundtrack =)

Anyways, watching this in a dark room with a kickass soundsystem just rules!
The visuals and halo effects are pretty neat.

My only complaint: 11mb!!?!?!?! What the hell takes up all that space =P
rulezadded on the 2004-03-03 16:09:55 by Nezbie Nezbie
mostly the 8.5mb very high bitrate ogg vorbis tune :)

the soundtrack is for download at paniqs homepage (http://paniq.de.vu)
added on the 2004-03-03 16:31:23 by ryg ryg
This sucks big time!

Just read NFO:
"made using the werkkzeug by
dierk.chaos.ohlerich & thomas.fiver2.mahlke
...
hi, this is paniq speaking. the source of
the idea for this demo shall be a mistery,
..."

I remember that there was some kind of demo making program for Amiga called: "Demo maker". So this demo (I suppose) is some kind of 'creation' made with such util... and we all know how we used to call that peoples back then :->

beside this is not so different than a simple slideshow.
Just look at it! Beside all latest FR demos have very similar look and feel!
I must emphasize two demos:
art director - visualice - gave to FR-31 demo great graphics and good 'art' direction...
and Fiver2 done absolute GREAT job with FR-25: t h e . p o p u l a r . d e m o)
but all new demos from FR are very similar... I don't see any point in making demos with 'demo maker program' !

long live fiver2 and chaos!
sucksadded on the 2004-03-04 22:41:33 by calimero calimero
werkkzeug is the editor for one of our (farbrausch) demosystems. you don't seriously expect us to stop using our own code, do you?

and i don't exactly get how you can whine about "all new demos from FR" being very similar and in the same paragraph saying how much you liked our two previous demos either.
added on the 2004-03-05 16:23:45 by ryg ryg
calimero: You are an idiot.
added on the 2004-03-05 16:50:13 by scamp scamp
FR-Products look like similar? bahh.. every single Demo from FR rules... but FR-025 was more than great... Hope this Piece will win at the Scene Awards in the Best Demo, Best Soundtrack and Best Effecs categories ;) - And this one is also really great and absolutly ruling :)
added on the 2004-03-05 16:56:53 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
I don know how werkkzeug look like but if you have visual 3D util for creting demos - than every person can create demo using this tool and you can produce 10, or more, demos per months and all of them would be at average quality, just like this FR-36 is!

Look, I do like FR-25 and FR-31, more than that - there are masterpiece! ...maybe FR-32 is also quite interesting :) ... but they are far better than FR-36 or ... and all FR demos have same look and feel - as you said 'you don't seriously expect us to stop using our own code, do you?' this is main point: maybe because of this all yours latest demos look similar, no mather who done graphics or who was art director (someone have more talent or skill - so demos look great)...

...anyway you have best coders - but go futher!

or maybe I live in past... I watched how borders vanishing from screen in Atari ST demos... take a look at http://www.cpu.lu/ulm/techtalk.html ...

Plase! I maybe was to rush but I think that:
FR-36 is a step back in comparasion to FR-25 and FR-31!
added on the 2004-03-05 17:18:35 by calimero calimero
I don know how werkkzeug look like but if you have visual 3D util for creting demos - than every person can create demo using this tool and you can produce 10, or more, demos per months

The point of a demo-tool like this is to seperate the work of coders and designers and to accelerate the demo development. The coders develop the tools and leave the design and direction to the gfx'ers. This makes the dev process of a demo a more efficient and flexible one. And yes, this means everybody could do a demo with 'werkzeug', but that does not reduce the effort behind the system on behalf of the coders, nor does it reduce the effort behind the content on behalf of the artists.
added on the 2004-03-05 17:47:56 by tomaes tomaes
ich lache doch sehr.
rulezadded on the 2004-03-05 18:25:43 by elend elend
sorry for my hard words, and that i spam the comments page of this great production, but:
calimero, it seems that you suck bigtime, and that you have no fuckin' idea about the development of a demo..
so STFU!!
"wenn man keine ahnung hat, einfach mal die fresse halten"
added on the 2004-03-05 18:34:30 by v3nom v3nom
quote calimero,
"I remember that there was some kind of demo making program for Amiga called: "Demo maker". So this demo (I suppose) is some kind of 'creation' made with such util... and we all know how we used to call that peoples back then :->"

... i know what we called peopled back then and what we call people like you nowdays...
added on the 2004-03-05 18:52:06 by pantaloon pantaloon
crash !
fatal error
.\_start.cpp(584) : assertion
win2k+sp4 (all lastest m$ patchs) // dx9.0b // GFti4200
oh my god! so much comments on my two-three lines of text...

? first: thank you for yours kind words (VeNomSouP and scamp) I'm really sorry for writing my thoughts...
? Tomaes: you have the point, but I still miss old times: raster, sync-scroll... :)
? Pantaloon: lamers? :-)
... and I'm really sorry for writing my thoughts which provoke so much flame!
added on the 2004-03-05 19:27:13 by calimero calimero
Do you think you always put too much Blur in you latest demo...

I hate blur !
The demo looks the same as if I did not wear my glasses !

Blur is not clean I hate that ! And It's BORINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.
sucksadded on the 2004-03-05 19:31:08 by ATH500 ATH500
great style, the music fits in with the gfx perfectly. it's almost '80s-ish in the color-scheme but... hhrrrrrrr not really, more futuristic than that. I liked the envmapping particularly.
rulezadded on the 2004-03-06 01:50:21 by Hunsvotti Hunsvotti
There is a certain difference between a tool that lets you make an intro/demo any way you want, and a program that helps you make a few variations on RSI megademo...

But don't mind me, I'm drunk... and heading for my bed. I can't believe I'm actually posting bullshit in a pouet thread after coming home on a friday night.. *sigh*
added on the 2004-03-06 05:00:33 by gammawave gammawave
good shit
rulezadded on the 2004-03-31 00:33:09 by _andre _andre
I like this demo, the music is very nice and I think it's a demo which show the farbrausch talents

zone -->> I have a win2K with sp4 and directX 9.0b (french version),512 Mo RAM (Samsung) with ati radeon 9200se 128 and it rules, no problem !
it's maybe your graphic driver or your system (CPU, or bad motherboard i don't know) but this demo is ok
try to change some params or patchs ;-)
--log
rulezadded on the 2004-04-07 22:07:28 by SilkCut SilkCut
the demo is nice, the music suxx big time. even in a 64k i would not have tolerated it, and now it's 8.5mb OGG? come on people!
added on the 2004-04-21 17:08:00 by bartman bartman
I found it somewhat boring the first time I saw it. I watched it once again and it's actually reallly good, thumb up. Nice soundtrack Paniq.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-14 22:34:01 by keops keops
Impressive
yet for some reason not pretty, except for the final scene maybe .
Too messy ? needs some 2d ?
added on the 2004-05-21 11:16:50 by Speed Speed
this demo just becomes better and better for each time I watch it. I love that the track is dark until the relieving end where the chords become pompous (<-correct spelling?) .. I tend to think that the timetraveller is racing in that handlike ship pictured in the lower right corner of the screenshot. This object appears in all the scenes(I think). The tree objects kick ass! And also.. I love the "blur"/"glow" as opposed to some other people commenting here.. Sharp edges suck ass..
rulezadded on the 2004-05-21 12:02:17 by loaderror loaderror
Same as Keops
rulezadded on the 2004-06-01 18:15:02 by eye eye
bad textures. but everything else looks good.
naah..
added on the 2004-07-04 13:45:40 by neon neon
Sorry, no.
sucksadded on the 2004-07-04 14:10:00 by Sesse Sesse
i found it kind of boring. its too dark anyway.
sucksadded on the 2004-07-06 17:09:35 by praetor_alpha praetor_alpha
So when can we expect "zeitmaschine: even darker remix"? :)
added on the 2004-07-11 04:16:51 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
hmm...nearly good, but just too abstract.
added on the 2004-07-11 06:06:10 by pdx pdx
jo
rulezadded on the 2004-07-19 07:15:38 by las las
:)
rulezadded on the 2004-09-12 04:16:33 by stm stm
Sie funktioniert, 9 Monate in die Zukunft waren kein Problem. Und nun die Rygrichtung...
rulezadded on the 2004-10-04 20:55:14 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
I just watched this after a long time. Kicks more ass than I remember. The music and the colors... ah.
rulezadded on the 2004-10-12 21:12:28 by Preacher Preacher
rulezadded on the 2005-02-18 19:12:57 by apricot apricot
added on the 2005-05-27 03:39:40 by gg|rhg gg|rhg
Truly their masterpiece. Excellent visual qualities!
rulezadded on the 2005-06-28 21:47:39 by EarlGrey EarlGrey
I can't run this thing on my config. i just give a try today and runs ... dunno why .... I like the mood while i feel it's not one of the best demo of fr... :)
rulezadded on the 2005-10-28 13:19:12 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
WOOO, it is nice nice nice
rulezadded on the 2005-12-30 20:00:07 by Psychad Psychad
huh? i never commented on this? shame on me it simply rocks.
rulezadded on the 2006-01-19 14:34:43 by Paralax Paralax
zeitmaschine
rulezadded on the 2006-01-19 15:15:05 by junjanes junjanes
This one is awesome, especially if you're a fan of goa/psy. Everything has the same look, and follows the same design principles thoughout the entire demo, which is superbly synced to Paniqs wonderful track. I can watch this over and over and over again.
rulezadded on the 2006-04-18 03:13:27 by Kaktusen Kaktusen
dude! i love almost everything about this. by almost, i mean some places get repetitave. i don't really see how it's "timemachine" but it roxx! (anytranslation for what ur saying?)
rulezadded on the 2006-04-30 01:36:20 by esepc40991 esepc40991
i love the soundtrack of this demo. together with these visuals it simply rules. still lasting in my favourite directory.
rulezadded on the 2006-04-30 03:12:19 by ttl ttl
yo
rulezadded on the 2006-09-25 20:15:08 by 9M4N 9M4N
better than the majority of those techno-vj-kinda-demos, but not by much.
added on the 2007-01-11 17:19:23 by bhead bhead
Too bad, all the scenes are aligned to the screen middle. That diminishes the pretty good effect sync and makes the whole thing too rigid.
The soundtrack wouldn't be my first choice anyway.
added on the 2007-02-20 11:07:35 by d0DgE d0DgE
don't like the noisy music at all. so it's just ok for me.
added on the 2007-03-27 09:47:20 by seppjo seppjo
rulezadded on the 2007-04-28 10:17:05 by puNky puNky
rulezadded on the 2007-06-01 20:15:35 by zomb zomb
Superb soundtrack & great visuals.
rulezadded on the 2007-06-17 22:05:49 by Drunk_Poet Drunk_Poet
Ok....becoming, but not quite there.
Music sits nicely, fits very well and is very professional.
realy good!
rulezadded on the 2007-06-19 16:43:18 by Kreativmonster Kreativmonster
indeed
rulezadded on the 2007-06-24 11:21:59 by decipher decipher
feels monochromatic. really nice sync... not a killer one but worth watching.
rulezadded on the 2007-10-27 12:38:06 by comankh comankh
could be better
added on the 2007-12-08 16:10:56 by yandexx yandexx
passt schon
rulezadded on the 2007-12-08 16:31:07 by src src
i don't like it. especially the music. sorry.
sucksadded on the 2007-12-13 14:36:12 by spike spike
maybe just not my kind of stuff.. on the other hand, the music is pretty good
added on the 2008-02-04 00:42:50 by Alpha C Alpha C
:)
rulezadded on the 2008-05-27 08:21:56 by Queen bittin Queen bittin
ok, just ok.
rulezadded on the 2008-09-14 00:26:36 by Sir Sir
What!?? I never thumbed this one up? I used to watch this one quite frequently. Highly enjoyable.
rulezadded on the 2009-02-11 10:25:17 by Blueberry Blueberry
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rulezadded on the 2009-02-11 13:04:50 by Confused Confused
needs moar thumb.
rulezadded on the 2009-04-25 21:51:53 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
...is ok
added on the 2009-04-29 18:58:40 by Mystra Mystra
What Blueberry said. :)
rulezadded on the 2009-05-05 18:31:28 by neptun neptun
tekkno
rulezadded on the 2009-05-17 21:11:47 by unc unc
What blueberry said!
rulezadded on the 2009-08-15 22:28:33 by Stebo Stebo
great ambience here :D
rulezadded on the 2011-01-27 13:21:26 by rez rez
Runs great on a netbook.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 05:34:45 by velusip velusip
Really love the driving soundtrack from paniq in this one - visuals match nice to it too :)

Made a Youtube Highres Rip on my HD channel for it:
YOUTUBE: fr-036: zeitmaschine by farbrausch (1080p)
rulezadded on the 2011-07-23 11:17:45 by anni anni
pumps hard!
rulezadded on the 2011-12-21 21:27:00 by Frequent Frequent

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