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screenshot added by NeARAZ on 2004-05-17 09:00:00
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release date : may 2004
release party : ImagineCup 2004
compo : windows demo
ranked : 2nd
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  • is ok 14
  • sucks 1
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alltime top: #2297
added on the 2004-05-17 09:00:00 by NeARAZ NeARAZ

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So, our demo for not-a-real-demoparty. It's ImagineCup, and the voting happens online right now (2004 May15-Jun01). Feel free to go to http://www.imaginecup.com/rendering_gallery.aspx , register and vote for us or any other demo :)

I don't have objective opinion on this demo, so I won't thumb it up. But I like it! :D
added on the 2004-05-17 09:03:34 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Well the engine is pretty nice, but I didn't like the show itself...
added on the 2004-05-17 10:34:09 by BoyC BoyC
i agree with boyc, a thumb for the engine and some of the textures, but too boring and nausiating camera movements.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-17 10:52:02 by okkie okkie
Short but sweet, great engine and textures, nice music too ...
rulezadded on the 2004-05-17 10:56:52 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
Cool looking, a bit slow sometimes here, nice idea!
rulezadded on the 2004-05-17 12:40:15 by Optimus Optimus
awful camera-moves, boring.
added on the 2004-05-17 12:55:56 by gloom gloom
Well, this isn't exactly a "demo" as you would expect in a real demoparty. It would probably look very bad on the bigscreen...
The goal of ImagineCup "demos" is something between tech-demos (like at IHV sites) and demoscene-demos. So, we just made a slow-paced, slightly melancholic demo (yes it may be boring :))...
added on the 2004-05-17 15:05:39 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Nice effects, but yeah... needs some more content :)
rulezadded on the 2004-05-17 15:06:58 by breez breez
thumb up ! the engine rocks like hell
rulezadded on the 2004-05-17 23:11:42 by nytrik nytrik
Ok, maybe I don't know what "the engine" is... Our "engine" knows absolutely nothing about the effects that are rendered. So, I can't say that the engine rocks because the effects are cool :)
All our demos use the same (constantly evolving) engine, and in all cases there's no a single line of code for any of the effects in the engine itself... (all effects are in data/fx folder, DX9 rocks :))
added on the 2004-05-18 08:28:40 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
very slow... awful camera tracks... boring... some things nice, and a lot ugly
sucksadded on the 2004-05-18 14:21:43 by spengler spengler
quite nice! Cute idea. Fix the up-vector rotation problem, please! :)
rulezadded on the 2004-05-18 14:23:25 by hornet hornet
Well - I haven't got a graphics card with any pixelshaders at all, so all I get is a rather simple fall-back engine - but it looks nice, and the idea of having an world-inside-a-world is quite nice too...

Thumbs up for at least having a fall-back path.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-18 15:07:30 by d3pth d3pth
cool shaders and effects but rather slow and boring. more time should be spent on modelling and thextures, and the camera movement was sucky
added on the 2004-05-18 15:38:32 by Duckers Duckers
Wow! That one is going quite well, despite my sucky card and impressive appearence... and i'm curious to know how the effects were done. :>

And the graphic quality is very high - i'd say too high for the demoscene. :>
rulezadded on the 2004-05-18 16:23:11 by eye eye
eye: all effects/shaders are in data/fx, in plain text "d3dx effects" format. actually, they are pretty standard :)
added on the 2004-05-18 16:27:51 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Amazing
rulezadded on the 2004-05-18 16:34:51 by Buckethead Buckethead
Funny programming, but I don't like the art.
added on the 2004-05-18 18:23:43 by superplek superplek
Very good rendering quality.
added on the 2004-05-18 18:44:00 by wain_ wain_
The camera movements could be better and the demo lacks a bit of action, but the rest of the design is not bad at all and the demo is interesting to watch.
I also like the music, as it is rather unusual and fits quite well.
About the visuals... well, everything has been said! The effects are not just very good, but they actually seem to work on most Gfx cards.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-18 18:53:46 by mjz mjz
It's a bore and the camera movement is on par with nextempire's efforts in demomaking. Still, I like it. Cool tech going on here, degrades nicely on older hardware.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-19 02:30:09 by Shifter Shifter
Rendering quality is nice indeed. However I do think that it isn't enough: overall demo is boring and camera movement is just that what's been said before.
added on the 2004-05-19 10:05:10 by Vulture Vulture
Ooops. Beautifull show. The music (ambient) is perfecly fit and the whole thing kick ass good !
rulezadded on the 2004-05-19 10:44:29 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
Really nice engine, graphics and music, all I missed was some "sense", so to say. The camera is indeed weird, and even tho I like the "story" or "concept", I found it a bit too much of an object-show.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-19 11:26:40 by Gargaj Gargaj
hey, what's wrong with camera? yeah, i agree that in some places it is _weird_:) but in other places it had to be such, it's such style or smth...
and btw in our previous demo Syntonic Dentiforms from Breakpoint camera also was done by me, and it has the same style, but we hadn't complaints about that.

it is created for ImagineCup contest (ImagineCup isn't demoparty), so it has to be effect show/tech-demo...
added on the 2004-05-19 11:49:01 by OneHalf OneHalf
excellent quality... but the camera destroyed it a little for me. Looked like the camera path was an afterthought, or a first attempt with a spline editor ;) How about some more interesting cuts and angles next time (perhaps with more closeups too to show the texturing/effects?)

Also, the dof effect is leaving a halo around some foreground objects. Maybe you can get around that by adding more layers (with increasing levels of blur) and selecting which to use based on distance... worked better for me when i last used that technique, but then i wasn't working in realtime so maybe its impractical :)

The transition when zooming into the fly's head looked a little obvious too... maybe RTTing the target scene and using it as the texture would improve it?

Good work anyway.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-19 15:05:01 by psonice psonice
psonice: oh well, everyone bashes the camera :) yes, DOF "leaks", but we din't want to make it very expensive (it has 3 layers now, and no checking of "leaking")...
added on the 2004-05-19 15:13:23 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
my gf4ti doesn't shows the fur :/
added on the 2004-05-19 15:16:16 by mrdoob mrdoob
killer engine!! BIG THUMBS UP
rulezadded on the 2004-05-19 16:02:22 by v3nom v3nom
kudos for including all the shaders/effects (for different cards) in a seperate folder and making sure it runs at decent framerates anywhere ...

I hope more people start buying modern cards, a geforce FX 5200 for example is 60 euros nowadays, no reason not to upgrade ;)
a geforce fx 5200 is no modern card ;P
added on the 2004-05-19 21:05:04 by PigPen PigPen
a gf5200 is absolutely useless. a card notably slower than a gf2ti, but with pixelshader 2.0 support - yeah right.
added on the 2004-05-19 21:30:46 by ryg ryg
Radeon 9600 SE is about the same price but much faster, btw...
added on the 2004-05-19 23:01:31 by mjz mjz
9600 SE is still to be avoided IMO. Things like less than half the memory bandwidth (compared to Pro) really hurt the performance.
added on the 2004-05-20 01:17:02 by breez breez
Of course. But if you want something cheap and 8500/9100 does not satisfy you (lack of DX 9), it is still a better choice than FX5200.
And if you want a really bad, but more expensive card, get sth. like 5600 LE/XT or 5700 LE/XT...
added on the 2004-05-20 01:34:02 by mjz mjz
I know, just making a point that money should not be an issue ;)
Yeah, it runs perfectly on a FX5200 . An interest and other thing i don't saw any fur :(
Ryg: don' blame the gf2ti please. I have a gf2mx400 and with the most (ofcourse _dx7 hardware compatible_ program) produce better framerate than a FX5200. Technically better (i hope at least :) but that horrible rendering speed ... :(
added on the 2004-05-20 10:26:15 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
abcug: uh, something's wrong then (your drivers or our code :)); fur should be seen on all ps2.0 cards
added on the 2004-05-20 11:55:11 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Does it really run perfectly when effects are missing? ;)
added on the 2004-05-20 12:37:51 by breez breez
very good work.
rulezadded on the 2004-05-21 00:03:39 by med med
Wow very nice modelling and texturing. Very melancholic music :)
me likes ^^
rulezadded on the 2004-05-21 06:03:25 by Timonator Timonator
nice complete engine!
rulezadded on the 2004-05-22 16:35:47 by Maali Maali
Very impressive 3d!
rulezadded on the 2004-05-30 10:02:57 by zeebr zeebr
The engine looks really cool, but as a demo it's not that good (camera movements, a bit short for its size...). Anyway, it wasn't meant for a "classic" demo competition.
added on the 2004-06-07 21:08:42 by utopian utopian
This demo is among top5 finalists. Wooohooo:)
added on the 2004-06-08 10:39:05 by OneHalf OneHalf
"So, Nat'ralists observe, a Flea
Hath smaller Fleas that on him pray,
And these have smaller yet to bite 'm,
And so proceed ad infinitum."
-- Jonathan Swift
rulezadded on the 2004-08-23 01:35:44 by thom thom
I just found a link to this on flipcode... looks amazing, even with no fur (gf4ti4600), the camera IS kinda strange... however my camera paths suck too and I don't even get close to the image quality of this prod, so...
rulezadded on the 2004-10-21 06:18:22 by panoramix panoramix
Nice engine, but boring demo..
added on the 2004-10-21 09:52:53 by Preacher Preacher
nasty camera movements, but other than that... wow!
rulezadded on the 2005-07-17 20:13:20 by parcelshit parcelshit
nice one
rulezadded on the 2006-01-03 16:45:38 by mizc mizc
rulezadded on the 2006-01-12 17:24:49 by bdk bdk
Very nice graphics and fitting music. Too bad it is so boring.
added on the 2006-07-30 10:39:57 by StingRay StingRay
Have to thumb up a production with such a good idea. There just exists too few demos with a clear concept like this nowdays. Don't care about minor flaws with camera or dof halos here.
rulezadded on the 2007-11-09 08:07:18 by deepr deepr
Funny ideas, nice fur :-)!
rulezadded on the 2008-04-06 21:51:41 by Stebo Stebo
outstanding!
rulezadded on the 2008-04-13 17:55:39 by 0rel 0rel
what stingray said, this was really slow and nothing much happened, but somehow, i really liked it =)
rulezadded on the 2008-04-14 14:44:37 by keito keito
nice
rulezadded on the 2011-12-26 22:40:16 by Frequent Frequent

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