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release date : june 2004
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added on the 2004-06-21 16:58:05 by skizo skizo

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Finally the musicdisk is out. Download link is an url, because there are several packs and also because actually there's a problem with our servers.
added on the 2004-06-21 16:59:12 by skizo skizo
yeah ;D
really nice stuff ;)
rulez added on the 2004-06-21 17:03:37 by las las
a bit big, the release, huh?
concerning your server issue : what about uploading it to scene.org?
added on the 2004-06-21 17:39:14 by v3nom v3nom
yeah, big rls.
well, actually all the files are online... only bad thing is that instead of having a full pack you must download sys & song packs.
not a great problem, anyway this will be hopefully fixed to the quick
added on the 2004-06-21 17:52:52 by skizo skizo
Kinetik is in it so thumbs up! :P
rulez added on the 2004-06-21 20:15:01 by cerror cerror
ignifera clamosus is the best metall influenced drum&bass track ever! big names in the uk d&b bizz like dylan who tried to combine d&b and metall cannot beat this wicked track :)
nice work from alterfish gravity too..
big broken beatz bizz.

nice work at all!
rulez added on the 2004-06-21 21:14:31 by ploppy ploppy
a 73 megabyte music disk, youve gotta be kiddin' !?
- oh well...downloading *sigh*
added on the 2004-06-22 10:09:21 by NoahR NoahR
Ploppy. obviously you never heard concord dawn - raining blood then.

Gravity- Drill'n'bass arent my thing at all. So obviously this is no exeption. Its grooveless and the only positive thing i can say about it is the deep lead wich is pretty nice and it has some good (though simple)chords. the c64 sounds are always loved too.

4D adagio...ZZZZzzzzzZZZZZzzz! Too boring. No doubt it's a nice set of strings, but the whole tune sounds like a synth demo (you know, the "demo" button on a lot of digital synths) no progression, wich is not nessecerily a bad thing, but here it makes the 4 mins unbearable.

Ignifera clamosus - doesnt work, because its to sloppy. a sharper guitar riff and sharper amens and another lead sound may make a difference. The lead is out of key, and it doesnt give it a spook effect, its just annoying.

when birds... - Some really cool ideas, but still youre average demotune. And the piano chords are most. def the wrong ones for the rest of the tune. They sound like they are there in lack of better, instead of being an element the tune couldnt have been without.

A rivers life- Uber cool. atmospheric. well made. Maybe the rev is a bit overused. and what is it about pianos? The melody itself is good to the track, but the piano sound itself is crap. The piano is the one element you could easily remove from the tune without loosing anything. Maybe use another sound instead.

Spirits of...- Its not at all my thing, it sounds like mediocre game music. Sure its pretty and all but it's just , the sounds arent remotely close to classical or ambient.

Water valve - very nice demotune. some good sounds and the usual clicking, bleeping and chords. It's no worse than other demo music in it's genre and its no better. I could see a good demo wrapped around this (maybe there is?)

To the worlds end - more game music. the flute is beutyfull, and so is the strings (though classics)

life's void - End of the game. its pretty bad, im sorry but the guitar ploinks are unbearable.

khamsin - fairly good. I think it needs more bass, but good atmospherics and sounds with an ethnic touch. The vocal is not very good and the tune could easily have been without. you found the vocal and just wanted to use it at any cost, right? but its crap. :)

dream of atlantis - a lot of keys out of tune in here, but it sound like it was intentional and still has a lot of beuty in it.

who has seen the wind- eurodance stuff. No worse than the stuff they play in the clubs or radio. The sound production isnt tight enough to make it there i reckon, but a fair try. The vocal production is horrible though. I can teven tell if the singer has talent or not, but the production is reallyreally bad.

A dancing flame- has elements that reminds me of dizzy's tunes and thats no bad thing. A good grooving tune, thats progressing nowhere, but it doesnt matter because youre nodding you head away to it. If i was to moan about something it would be the overused rhodes, but i still love those.

My time, my cry - Pretty good song in a genre i think virgill represents the very nature off. Its not my thing as such but i still appreciate this for what it is and cant find any real flaws in it at all.

heborian theme - The first attempt at ambient music on this disc that actually works. It is beutyfull at places, to the point where the small hairs rise on my arms. Theres a lot of playing about with the sounds wich is good. This tune is its own in a crowded genre, and even though it uses the same sounds as the other tunes, it still manage to stand out. well done.

All in all ill say this disk gets too far around. Next time concentrate on realeasing E.P's round a certain genre rather than an unfocused behemoth like this one. It goes everywhere but doesnt master anything. Plus the quality is too variable. Be more self critical before pushing a 73 meg music disk.

My 50 cents
added on the 2004-06-22 11:09:42 by NoahR NoahR
@ Ploppy

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If the tag doesnt work. look the tune (concorde dawn - raning blood) up at www.breakbeat.co.uk
added on the 2004-06-22 11:17:54 by NoahR NoahR
Liked it. Quite enjoyable overall.
A bit too big for me to, but thanks to ADSL I downloaded it anyway. Better than the new musicdisc from paniq IMHO, although that one has its moments too...
rulez added on the 2004-06-22 13:03:48 by raer raer
All in all ill say this disk gets too far around.
Next time concentrate on realeasing E.P's
round a certain genre rather than an
unfocused behemoth like this one. It goes
everywhere but doesnt master anything.
Plus the quality is too variable. Be more self
critical before pushing a 73 meg music disk.

Dear you... maybe you didn't understand, but it's a collection of song submitted to a competition. You can't manage to let 14 people doing the same kind of music for a compo, or maybe you can? This I don't know.
About my song, I know the piano sux, but I didn't have time to fix it before the deadline (deadline caught me up again!).
Overall I and all the people I know liked this disk. Has several styles in it as kind of obvious for a multi composer release.
Sad to hear you didn't understand this simple thing
added on the 2004-06-22 16:34:54 by skizo skizo
Ofcourse i can. That would make it a focused competition. But youre right, i missed that point about this particular disk. :) Doesnt change my view though. :)
added on the 2004-06-22 17:19:37 by NoahR NoahR
thx iblis
i have that concord dawn track and you are right, its good too but i like the synths from ignifera clamosus its a solid work.
added on the 2004-06-22 18:55:04 by ploppy ploppy
how the hell can people judge this or products in general by its size? okay, if youre looking for a 4k-intro which has 5kb, that may suck (stupid example, but you should get the point), but grml, this is a MUSICdisk, and electronic mp3, produced with whatever program, gets a little bigger in the end. in my eyes thats nothing to judge here. i could doubt the purpose of pouet.net to present it, for its not really a product of one demogroup, right? but hey, we'll leave that aside.

i liked many of the tracks, i liked how the different styles make sense together judging the whole piece. appreciation for the work yall put in this... -> thumb up :)
rulez added on the 2004-06-25 15:20:26 by fup fup
Overall I and all the people I know liked this disk. Has several styles in it as kind of obvious for a multi composer release.
Sad to hear you didn't understand this simple thing


skizo, try to understand that if someone doesn't like something you do, it doesn't mean he "doesn't understand" it. moreover, if you and all the people you know like it, it proves absolutely nothing. everyone's entitled to an opinion.

as for the disk, haven't checked it out yet :)
added on the 2004-06-25 15:32:39 by reed reed
<i>reed: skizo, try to understand that if someone doesn't like something you do, it doesn't mean he "doesn't understand" it</i>

Regarding that...

<i>iblis: but youre right, i missed that point about this particular disk</i>

People might or might not like this or the other prods, has nothing to do with me accepting it. If you read back carefully you will understand I was talking about iblis saying that the disk is not uniform in its style, and I was just telling him it's because the nature of the disk itself.
I have no problem if someone doesn't like it...
added on the 2004-06-25 18:22:00 by skizo skizo
oi, wrong tags added :P
added on the 2004-06-25 18:22:20 by skizo skizo
Great musicdisk. I missa couple of my favorite entries from the compo, "Kruser - Nimbus" and "Alterfish Gravity - Pond of Go'ssok" , while I thought "Dream of Atlantis" should have been excluded :( But thats just my opinion, but Nimbus was 10x better more "musical" than Atlantis.

Great artwork, made a really nice CD. THanks to Skizo and Christofori for all the hard work!!!
rulez added on the 2004-06-26 03:07:36 by obScene obScene
rulez added on the 2004-06-29 22:50:03 by Patrick Groove Patrick Groove

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