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Hugi.GER #4 - Piccolo zum Nikolo by hugi [web]
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release date : december 2004
  • rulez 8
  • is ok 7
  • sucks 25
popularity : 57%
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Rulez, of course!
rulez added on the 2004-12-06 19:14:17 by Adok Adok
slefvoting is teh cnacer.
sucks added on the 2004-12-06 19:19:27 by madMixx madMixx
lovely literature.
rulez added on the 2004-12-06 19:24:21 by red red
envelope:

- wow, surprisingly one more-or-less good dnb music (the euro-techno one is really disturbing though).
- the woman pic is pretty pointless (like most of scene gfx actually, so its okay=), and the black hugi logo is really misfitted. the interface is slightly better than the average hugi layout though.

content:

- the preface was pain in the ass to read, really. adok, even if you want to seem "serious", NO sane and intelligent person would write like that.
- it's pretty cheap to do an iraq feature by just writing down the content and the interviews from a tv report. the "flashback" story of an iraqi student is interesting though!
- poetry... hmm.. nothing really impressive. while one would expect something more avantgardistic from an alternative subculture like the scene, hugi once more proves its status as a fortress of aesthetical reaction. while the first two poems are pretty unimaginative, but still okay from a formalistic standpoint, the 3rd poem is really badly written and a cheap try to combine diffuse political propaganda with bad rhymes. the two poems by piccolo are funny in some sort of way, but i wonder if this is a intended regress to childlike-style and -topic, or the authors normal mental world... hapless tries in both ways though.
- i haven't had the patience to go thorugh all the prosa, to be honest, so i won't say anything about it, except for "die russenbraut", which was not only totally hapless from a literary standpoint, but also full of clichées and really offensive towards any sane russian. (eyes yes, i know, russian soldiers used to rape civilian women while ww2, but i really wonder how the author managed to pack so much anti-russian clichées in 1/2 page of text...)

yours truly,

the self-important pygmee.
sucks added on the 2004-12-06 21:01:46 by dipswitch dipswitch
okay, now i've read a bit more of the prosa and i even more feel that i thumbed it down for good. even infront of nowadays' literature-crisis, with most literature bringing forth nothing refreshing, these pathetic pieces seem dull and helpless.
added on the 2004-12-06 21:08:36 by dipswitch dipswitch
The title sound really gay! (What ever it tries to say anywayz).. even the chick in the titlepicture cannot mitigate that. I will give my verdict after skimming through the articles.
added on the 2004-12-07 00:05:46 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
ok... WTF?? Why is this on pouet? Wrapping a demoscene-esque interface around a bunch of articles written by layman authors does not make it a production that is relevant to the scene.

I will refrain from thumbing this down as adok apparently lured a few innocents into wasting their time on this. But I wonder whether there isn't a better place and a better way to publish this..

added on the 2004-12-07 00:13:56 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
electronic text art at it's best!
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 00:25:15 by Mr Twist Laser Mr Twist Laser
Hooray it's german
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 00:45:58 by NoahR NoahR
nicht gut :(
Die Artikeln sind ja ganz schlechte
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 00:55:09 by Preacher Preacher
I don't get the point of doing a whole diskmag in something else than english ( aka a language we all share ).

Using local languages in a demo/intro is one thing, but "demo poetry" is generally just worth being pasted on IRC or on a oneliner.
added on the 2004-12-07 01:01:43 by p01 p01
"Piccolo zum Nikolo"? WTF...
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 01:05:35 by scamp scamp
At least hellfire's (old?) picture is better than the one in Hugi #29. ;)

Music is interesting, the rest has no scene relevance.
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 01:23:48 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
i think it's not even the point that the stuff in non-scenerelated (actually like 50% of nowadays "scene" stuff is pretty dubious hehe) but that the content is very very mediocre at its best.
added on the 2004-12-07 01:30:28 by dipswitch dipswitch
lame photos. they aren't gfx.
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 02:46:00 by Zest Zest
sorry adok, usually i'm still interested in hugi (maybe that's why i downloaded hugi.ger4), but this thing plainly just sucks...
crappy music, crappy gfx and -not that this is important for a (disk)mag- crappy "articles"...
the poems range from "ok, but doesn't do nothing" to "boooo"
after checking into some prosa i instantly quit the whole thing and deleted it from c:/temp
sorry to say
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 14:19:12 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
ok, at least "Eine erste Geschichte" has some potential
and reading "Resa" leads me to the conclusion, that you were desperately accepting *any* text...
HANDS UP FOR YOUR GOOD WORK AND FOR A MAG IN GERMAN!!!
schön nach dem tollen wildmag ma wieder was deutsches zu lesen!!
rulez added on the 2004-12-07 16:28:05 by v3nom v3nom
Venomsoup: Das ist wohl der Grund, warum du Dir auf Mallorca immer die Bild kaufst, was?
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 16:36:39 by kb_ kb_
Hiiiiiiiiiilffffffffffeeeeeeeeeee
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 16:41:00 by Fzool Fzool
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schön nach dem tollen wildmag


Naja. Toll war'n wir nicht. Aber gegen das hier war's super. =)
added on the 2004-12-07 16:49:26 by tomaes tomaes
ok, i respect the effort adok puts into his mags, but, i mean ARGH, the total lack of a sense for style is just unbelievable for someone who's been involved for that long... Those poems, esp. those 2 kindergarden-rhymings, oh my goodness! I can't imagine what drove people to release something this embarassing to such a wide audience(okay, well, german audience). However I liked the citation articles, maybe because someone else(and pro-skilled) wrote most of them. The fact that there is nothing scene-related in this release on pouet -- an extra minus.
But well, the effort makes it a piggie... they just don't know better.
added on the 2004-12-07 17:02:31 by aser aser
since hugi.ger always used to be a lot uglier then hugi (.international), i'm really looking forward to the release of the next "real" hugi..
meanwhile i have to do this:
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 17:18:33 by toxie toxie
Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof.
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 18:19:30 by p01 p01
hundertdrei!
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 20:20:16 by Maali Maali
and this issue's name will go down as most gay in scene history.
added on the 2004-12-07 20:22:19 by dipswitch dipswitch
kein mehrheit fur die mitleid
sucks added on the 2004-12-07 21:31:19 by dalezr dalezr
der provokant pinke titel weckt erwartungen ein oeffentliches coming out des "koenigs" im inneren zu finden und sorgt sicher fuer vermehrtes interesse/downloads. die entaeuschung nichts zu finden ist zwar da, erweckt aber neue hoffnung in spaeteren ausgaben bedient zu werden.
also ein cleverer schachzug!
vom desingstandpunkt her wird ebenfalls eine klare linie geboten. das gewohnte optische hugi niveau wird konsequent in allen belangen durchgezogen und der eher unwichtige rest (sprich artikel,musi) passt sich dem c.design folgend dem selben level an.

also ein bis ins letzte ausgefeiltes hugi das meine erwartungen nicht enttaeuscht hat...
rulez added on the 2004-12-08 06:39:10 by xeNusion xeNusion
xenusion: fieberwahn?
nur fuer sie, herr maden hier eine kleine uebersetzung des sarkastischen anflugs:

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der provokant pinke titel


omg welcher flachwixer hat denn den daemlich schwulen titel ausgesucht?!

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weckt erwartungen ein oeffentliches coming out des "koenigs" im inneren zu finden



die ganze aufgestaute sexuelle frust eines
verkappten republikaners war offensichtlich also gibs endlich zu adok... :P

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ein cleverer schachzug


idiot

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das gewohnte optische hugi niveau wird konsequent in allen belangen durchgezogen


"der selbe dreck wie immer" oder "herr doktor ich habe augenkrebs - und das nicht erst seit gestern"

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der eher unwichtige rest (sprich artikel,musi) passt sich dem c.design folgend dem selben level an


artikel,musik,gfx -> alles gleich niveaulos

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also ein bis ins letzte ausgefeiltes hugi das meine erwartungen nicht enttaeuscht hat...


meine erwartungen sind mittlerweile bei null...also hat mich dieses machwerk nicht sonderlich ueberrascht
added on the 2004-12-08 14:44:17 by xeNusion xeNusion
sorry, hab das mag bei meinem vote noch nich ma entpackt..
Die Artikel sind echt ned lesenswert..
Vorallem könnten sie's ja bestimmt besser..
added on the 2004-12-08 14:55:03 by v3nom v3nom
"Artikel"
ps: politisches hat nix in nem diskmag zu suchen, verdammt
added on the 2004-12-08 14:57:12 by v3nom v3nom
Wenn es zuende ist ist es zuende, lasst es doch einfach in Ruhe sterben ...
sucks added on the 2004-12-09 14:06:10 by rntm rntm
xeNusion: Haha, cool.
I owe you a beer. :)
by bob. this is BAD. I mean, really.
rulez added on the 2004-12-09 22:40:52 by shiva shiva
This is strange: A thumb-up is displayed beneath shiva's comment, but if you click at "shiva", you will see that he wanted to thumb Hugi.GER #4 down.
added on the 2004-12-10 10:28:27 by Adok Adok
All of a sudden it has changed and a thumb up is displayed here, too.
added on the 2004-12-10 10:28:59 by Adok Adok
Maybe a worm is running on this PC (I'm in an Internet cafe) or at pouet.
added on the 2004-12-10 10:31:38 by Adok Adok
In case you wonder: Of course I only typed this to make Hugi.GER #4 appear in the "latest comments added" box more often.
added on the 2004-12-10 10:34:31 by Adok Adok
wurst.
added on the 2004-12-11 20:06:39 by Gargaj Gargaj
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In case you wonder: Of course I only typed this to make Hugi.GER #4 appear in the "latest comments added" box more often.

Adok, let me help you with that.
added on the 2004-12-11 20:07:47 by bruce bruce
btw isnt the girl in the startpic stifflers mom from american pie?
added on the 2004-12-11 20:42:11 by dipswitch dipswitch
ok, hugi sucks big times lately tho come on dipswitch everyone can see that your comments regarding hugi issues are filled with personal aversion against adok :). anyway thumbs down for a once again lame hugi issue.
sucks added on the 2004-12-11 21:05:58 by trigger trigger
no, i dont have a personal aversion against adok, really not (i never met him after all!), only a personal aversion for bad diskmags... =)
added on the 2004-12-11 21:08:31 by dipswitch dipswitch
btw, the content is complete bullshit :(. tho i like the dnb tune... quite ok
added on the 2004-12-11 21:11:19 by trigger trigger
nem egesz harom egesz tizennegy ! ;)
rulez added on the 2004-12-13 12:31:47 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
Piccolo zum Nikolo:

Ich geb´s ja gern zu, Einiges an diesem Magazin gefällt mir nicht so recht. Aber die nächste Ausgabe wird noch viel besser werden. Also nicht verzagen, lieber Hagen und Hugi im Februar wieder fragen. :-)

Da die Wertung von einigen inkompetenten Lesern absichtlich in den Keller geschaufelt wurde, gibt es hier von mir (einmalig) einen Daumen hoch, denn so schlecht ist das Magazin ja wirklich nicht. Wer des Lesens mächtig ist und sich wirklich mal die Mühe macht, vorurteilslos zu lesen, wird das bald bemerken.

So, nun wünsche ich Euch noch allen eine schöne Adventszeit. (Bitte alle Kerzen vor dem Schlafengehen löschen :-)

mfg
piccolo
rulez added on the 2004-12-15 22:50:16 by piccolo piccolo
AbcuG!: It van a jelentos irodalom!
added on the 2004-12-16 20:49:57 by Adok Adok
gaylord name. What does it mean ?
added on the 2004-12-16 21:00:10 by Navis Navis
Navis: "Piccolo zum Nikolo" = "[Many articles by] Piccolo on the occasion of St. Nikolaus day"
added on the 2004-12-16 21:07:41 by Adok Adok
madMixx Nachtisch:
Buchstabenverdreher sind zwar äußerst originell, sagen aber nichts über das eigentliche

Produkt aus. Lesen Sie!
added on the 2004-12-16 23:15:19 by piccolo piccolo
dipswitch Nachtisch: »adok, even if you want to seem "serious", NO sane and intelligent

person would write like that.«
Ooops! Ich halte mich für einen intelligenten Menschen und ich schrieb so was. Was ist

falsch daran, dipswitch?
added on the 2004-12-16 23:16:53 by piccolo piccolo
dipswitch Nachtisch: so i won't say anything about it, except for "die russenbraut",

which was not only totally hapless from a literary standpoint, but also full of clichées
Klischees sind vorhanden, ja.
and really offensive towards any sane russian. (eyes yes, i know, russian soldiers used

to rape civilian women while ww2, but i really wonder how the author managed to pack so

much anti-russian clichées in 1/2 page of text...)
Das ist kein russenfeindlicher Text. Wenn Du Dir das mal vorbehaltlos durchgelesen

hättest, würdest Du die Ironie darin bemerken. Es wird zwar von einer Vergewaltigung

geredet, aber nicht von der von einem russischen General verordneten

Massenvergewaltigung.
Das war zwar sicher ein Einzelfall und kann nicht verallgemeinert werden, aber es ist nun

mal geschehen.
added on the 2004-12-16 23:18:56 by piccolo piccolo
Iblis Nachtisch:
Hooray it's german
Freu Dich :-) denn es wird weitere deutsche Ausgaben geben.
added on the 2004-12-16 23:20:02 by piccolo piccolo
Hopper Nachtisch: Was wäre denn interessant für Dich?
added on the 2004-12-16 23:21:40 by piccolo piccolo
Hopper Nachtisch: »and reading "Resa"«
???
added on the 2004-12-16 23:22:53 by piccolo piccolo
venomsoup Nachtisch:
HANDS UP FOR YOUR GOOD WORK AND FOR A MAG IN GERMAN!!!
schön nach dem tollen wildmag ma wieder was deutsches zu lesen!!
*jauchz* Endlich mal ein Fan :-))
added on the 2004-12-16 23:23:59 by piccolo piccolo
rntm Nachtisch:
Wenn es zuende ist ist es zuende, lasst es doch einfach in Ruhe sterben ...
Noch so ein Ignorant.
added on the 2004-12-16 23:25:06 by piccolo piccolo
adok Nachtisch: AbcuG!: It van a jelentos irodalom!
??? Ist das bayrisch?
added on the 2004-12-16 23:26:06 by piccolo piccolo
ungarisch - es meint etwas wie "hier ist die bedeutende Literatur"
added on the 2004-12-16 23:31:27 by Gargaj Gargaj
piccolo Nachtisch: MAUL HALTEN BITTE!
added on the 2004-12-16 23:49:13 by Maali Maali
WTF please! 9 comments from one person in less than 15 minutes and it's hard to notice where the quotings end and the comments start...
learn.to/quote and have a look at the BB Code-link from above.
FAQings to lamers
added on the 2004-12-17 00:51:13 by Gargaj Gargaj
why are so many comments in german? are they written by language artists and therefor very hard to translate?
added on the 2004-12-17 08:02:59 by hollowman hollowman
Azé, hogy örülj vazze :)
added on the 2004-12-17 11:11:11 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
da muß ich grad mal faker/voz zitieren: fresse, fresse, fresse.. mowl, mowl, mowl..
added on the 2004-12-17 11:43:02 by toxie toxie
dipswitch, blasphemie!
BB Image
added on the 2004-12-17 12:59:38 by dalezr dalezr
Abcug: touché :D

hollowman: 'cos it's a russian edition of the diskmag, see? it's russian so you most comment in german. easy, isnt... it? ... uh ...
added on the 2004-12-17 16:44:46 by Gargaj Gargaj
hm. i think i messed up the two threads here.. :D
added on the 2004-12-17 16:45:21 by Gargaj Gargaj
my german sucks, but hey, it's hugi.
sucks added on the 2004-12-17 17:16:31 by skrebbel skrebbel
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bla bla bla

added on the 2004-12-18 00:42:38 by piccolo piccolo
MadenMann:
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WTF please! (What the hell means »WTF« ???)
9 comments from one person in less than 15 minutes and it's hard to notice where the

quotings end and the comments start...

Hye, maidenmann :-)
My 9 comments (was that nine?) sind nicht alle in 15 Minuten entstanden. Es waren einige

Kopfstände nötig, die Texte hier unterzukriegen.
Dass Du Anfang und Ende nicht auseinanderhalten konntest, liegt nicht an mir, sondern an

pout. Ich hatte die Texte schön formatiert, aber pouet klamüsert sie wieder auseinander.
Aber es kann auch sein, dass Du nicht richtig lesen kannst.
added on the 2004-12-18 05:07:57 by piccolo piccolo
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why are so many comments in german? are they written by language artists and

therefor very hard to translate?

adok: This is it what I fear :-) You know?
HorrorMan: Wenn Du auf einen deutschsprachigen Artikel in einer fremden Sprache

antwortest, musst Du Dich nicht lang wundern. Wenn Du tatsächlich ein Ausländer bist,

kannst Du das ja sagen. Aber wenn Du als Deutscher Dich tatsächlich verbiegst, tut mir

das leid.
added on the 2004-12-18 05:09:28 by piccolo piccolo
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why are so many comments in german? are they written by language artists and

therefor very hard to translate?

Deutsch ist im Allgemeinen sehr schwer zu übersetzen. Noch dazu, wenn Hobby-Autoren etwas

dahinkraxeln. Mach Dir nicht die Mühe - hollowman - das alles verstehen zu wollen.
added on the 2004-12-18 05:10:37 by piccolo piccolo
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piccolo Nachtisch: MAUL HALTEN BITTE!

Maali: Keine Ahnung, woher Deine Aversion herkommt, aber Dich hab ich hier noch nie

gesehen. Wolltest Du mich provozieren, oder was?
added on the 2004-12-18 05:11:51 by piccolo piccolo
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ungarisch - es meint etwas wie "hier ist die bedeutende Literatur"

Gargaj:
Ich hab´s mir fast gedacht :-)
Als Kind war ich mal in Ungarn und fand die Sprache immer so nett.
Nette und gastfreundliche Menschen. Meine Wirtin war die Königin des Kesselgulasch. :-)))
Lecker.
added on the 2004-12-18 05:12:45 by piccolo piccolo
Oh please already!!!
this thumb for piccolo:
where do you think you are you fucking idiot? kindergarten? go flood another website with your stupidity. And please learn to write things within a single post, unless you want to artificially increase the popularity of your crap of course.
sucks added on the 2004-12-18 05:33:52 by stm stm
can any german-speaking dude assure me that piccolo's words have something to do with the scene ?
added on the 2004-12-18 06:16:06 by Zest Zest
really cool
rulez added on the 2004-12-18 09:01:24 by skarab skarab
Sheer genius
sucks added on the 2004-12-18 13:13:05 by sagacity sagacity
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sucks added on the 2008-11-04 18:32:56 by nosfe nosfe
hugi sucks :(
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sucks added on the 2009-01-31 17:15:38 by leijaa leijaa
Adok
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