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The Key to success by Moods Plateau [web]
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release date : march 2005
release party : Breakpoint 2005
compo : animation
ranked : 4th
  • rulez 26
  • is ok 7
  • sucks 4
popularity : 0%
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added on the 2005-04-02 13:51:27 by novel novel

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This ruled big time!
One of my favourite productions at bp this year.
It's cool to see more and more hiphop-styles in the demoscene.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 13:53:30 by novel novel
Rulez big time indeed. Cool graffiti.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 15:49:44 by teel teel
rock on. the east is in the house :)
added on the 2005-04-03 02:23:02 by zANEr zANEr
graffiti,ascii,demoscene we all one family :)

caps up.
rulez added on the 2005-04-03 02:25:25 by zANEr zANEr
ahhhh yeahhh it was a bit sad that we only became 4th/5th (same points) but at the end its ok... next time we will try it better to hit neuroconcept ;D
added on the 2005-04-03 10:31:37 by dirtie dirtie
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yeeeeeeahhhhhhh
rulez added on the 2005-04-03 12:57:15 by dipswitch dipswitch
aehhh fuck... still too wasted from the trip germany->poland.,.. anyway. this was one of the breakpoint highlights for me.
added on the 2005-04-03 12:59:15 by dipswitch dipswitch
fatcap !!
rulez added on the 2005-04-03 18:43:14 by bLa bLa
treat it like soap on a rope cuz the beats and the lines are so dope.
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 10:54:05 by toxie toxie
thanx for the thumbs. Was hell of an effort to finish it.
The playlist position in the compo could have been
better to to get the crowd more rowdy ;D

but nevertheless the first imaginations have grown for the next production...perhaps a
direct coop with maclaim
added on the 2005-04-09 03:21:57 by d0DgE d0DgE
Selfvoting sucks but this wildie rulez big time!
rulez added on the 2005-04-11 18:55:58 by ghandy ghandy
wow, this is great
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 21:34:54 by Lupin Lupin
i love you, moods! a really nice video with cool sync! should have been placed in the top 3 imho!
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 22:14:30 by scicco scicco
I am all for going against society, rebelling, and even taking the public space into use (squatting, Loesje posters, that sort of stuff), but I think this went over the top. I see no artistic value in the graffiti on the train and someone (the taxpayer) is going to have to pay for it to be removed, and that money sure could be used better. I have seen a lot of good graffiti art, but this is not it.
sucks added on the 2005-04-13 21:57:42 by Preacher Preacher
well, at least I was even afraid too that this matter
would cause a disqualification and I know trainbombing is a hot iron to work with coz it always leads to discussions about legal rights vs. art & urban communication. But to quell this at the very start I suggest you to visit the following sites and place your oppinion regarding graff.

http://www.rowdyclub.de
http://www.maclaim.com

What shall commented (or thumbed) here I guess is the overall look, timing, effects, editing, music etc.

At least thank you for honest criticism Preacher...next time the deal will go to the stylistic aspects of graff which you might find more interesting.
added on the 2005-04-14 19:27:44 by d0DgE d0DgE
from an aesthetical point of view, the legal/moral aspect left aside, the place for graffiti is exactly on trains. moving letters on moving steel. that's the way.
added on the 2005-04-19 16:57:35 by dipswitch dipswitch
What I still fail to understand is, why should the graffiti even be removed at all with tax payers' money, like Preacher said. It looks a lot better than an average plain coloured train :)
added on the 2005-04-19 17:02:35 by teel teel
was this that crappy boring "whoooo we are artist because we make damage to public property"-video?
added on the 2005-04-19 17:09:00 by Gargaj Gargaj
erm...gargaj...in germany trains are no public property any more since years.
And as I've written above...don't use this here to discuss the rights or wrongs of graff...comment the way the production was made, not that the shown content was illegal or offending to anyone.
added on the 2005-04-19 20:00:20 by d0DgE d0DgE
plus it's not about being artists.
added on the 2005-04-19 22:03:56 by dipswitch dipswitch
yep d!p...it's about identifying yourself in a society that shrinkes a human beeing to a couple of numbers.Graff here was taken to visualise it in an extreme (some may say offending) form.
added on the 2005-04-19 23:03:28 by d0DgE d0DgE
Quote:
.it's about identifying yourself in a society that shrinkes a human beeing to a couple of numbers.


a thumb up for 'most cheesy quote of 2005' \o/
rulez added on the 2005-04-19 23:23:26 by okkie okkie
this is choice.
preaching sucks.
rulez added on the 2005-04-20 09:06:14 by randomi randomi
i like hiphop style in scene. one of the nicest releases at bp
rulez added on the 2005-05-30 17:45:03 by somnium somnium
Get a pencil and some paper. You can draw there, too, without causing trouble and costs.
sucks added on the 2005-07-10 16:17:32 by Zweckform Zweckform
AGAIN, I want to recommend you to place your opinion about Graff or NoGraff on this site:


the rowdyclub


if you have the balls to face a discussion with
real writers.

We, who did only use Graff video material as polarising element, do want your comments regarding editing quality, music and such...
So don't fall on our nerves with bolony
suggestions that even 10 years ago weren't
effective.
added on the 2005-07-14 13:21:16 by d0DgE d0DgE
loved it at the compo :)
rulez added on the 2005-07-20 18:56:53 by trigger trigger
rulez added on the 2005-07-28 14:49:38 by chavez chavez
rewatched it, and wooooh this is probably one of the most stylish wilddemos ever made. really really hoping for a sequel.
added on the 2005-08-04 12:56:16 by dipswitch dipswitch
rocks. Zweckform, that's just a damn stupid comment. there is stuff drawn on paper on this production and the wholecar action just shows pure amazing skills. big respects to guys. Zweckform i'd like to see you trying to do that kinda lettering on those proportions. doing a wholecar is so damn hard. and well, the effects really suited the video. and typography. it's so nice that every text was bombed, no "graffiti" .ttf's used. well. i loved it. but then again, i always love nice train actions. ;)
rulez added on the 2005-08-04 13:58:29 by ansichrist ansichrist
This demo is as wild as "The Warriors" was! ;)
Cult!
In the best of taste...
One of the best wild I ever saw.

Btw. there will be a new "The Warriors" 2006 done by Tony Scott.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423512/

rulez added on the 2005-08-04 21:00:22 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
yes, I've heared but honestly...there is only
the real Warriors from the great heydays that you
CAN REALLY DIIIIG ;)
added on the 2005-08-04 22:29:03 by d0DgE d0DgE
This was just an info what happens to "The Warriors" after 26 years...

Sure: There can be only one! ;)
added on the 2005-08-04 22:42:24 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
perfect shit
rulez added on the 2005-08-06 23:05:25 by uns3en_ uns3en_
:)
rulez added on the 2005-09-08 19:58:24 by las las
i mostly liked the tags.. the videos were also nice, and most of the cgi was quite cool.
but the video editing was quite bad imho, and the ripped music didnt help much in that department either..
i wouldnt watch it again despite liking the graff and cgi biz so i cant really thumb it either way..
added on the 2005-10-16 06:10:49 by psenough psenough
now this is what I call solid critic :) Thanks a lot.
For sure there is enough to do better next time...like every time.
Regarding the "ripping": If you meant the song by Joe Walsh...ok it's taken from the O.S.T. but for my taste there _had_ to be a rock tune. At all I've felt a bit uncomfortable too by chosing a 3rd party music for the endpart...that explains why it is so clearly credited in the endscroller ;)
added on the 2005-10-18 00:16:27 by d0DgE d0DgE
and the afro movie bits.. it just didnt feel very right edit wise..
added on the 2005-10-18 01:01:41 by psenough psenough
I don't know how I should rate the content since there are some real good animiations but on the other hand I dislike overdrawn windows. Tagging a train with a group name doesn't appeal me. When it comes to graffiti I like pics, not logos.
MadenMann:
logos==pieces (sceneglossar|graffglossar) but who cares ;)
you like real artwork with graff-technique...take a look on the site of our associates (they did the button and template anims) MaClaim

ps:
oh...I wont consider The Warriors an "afro" movie.
added on the 2005-11-09 19:53:08 by d0DgE d0DgE
wahhhh...bbcode url linking me don't capable o_O
2nd trial
MaClaim
added on the 2005-11-09 19:56:06 by d0DgE d0DgE
Nice work, an entertaining video to a former painter... :)

I don't do thumbs up since this is a product of my group.
added on the 2005-11-15 12:21:13 by raztaman raztaman
Haters, PISS OFF!!. Graffiti can't be stopped!

Really enjoyed your prod Dodge. I must admit I was on desperate hunt for cans in Bingen,without any luck..hehe..seemed really easy to hit trains down there :)( I also think there were some legal walls downtown...lets do a wall next year.

Looking forward to your production next year,If you get the MaClaim dudes involved it will be insane.

Was planning myself on doing some graff-wilddemo on po-RNO myself next year, but it would probably fall way into the shadow of "The Key to success" and you next prod....but who knows... ;)
rulez added on the 2005-12-06 17:59:01 by tFt tFt
@tft
Wow. Thats a really intelligent argument in favour of drawing over other peoples property.

I have nothing against graffiti style art. I have nothing against legitimate usage of that kind of art (i recall a skate shop paying a local graffiti artist to decorate their building, and the result was really cool), but I really can't condone criminal damage, which is all this sort of thing amounts to.

If you spray private property, thats really bad. The owner has to spend time and effort to clean it off or repaint their property. Would you like me to come and ruin your car? Or paint over the front of your house?

If you spray public property, well thats different. I don't necessarily have any problem with "sticking it to the man", but when its my tax money that has to pay to have it cleaned off, I'd prefer it if the graffiti wasn't sprayed in the first place.

I can't see any argument in defence of illegal graffiti (or "criminal damage" as it is properly termed) that can't be dismissed as immature or pathetic.
sucks added on the 2005-12-06 18:08:33 by xeron xeron
@dodge
as for thumbing purely on the artistic merit of the production, I thumbed down because my only reaction to it at breakpoint basically was that i didn't like the way it glorified criminal damage, and seemingly tried to make out graffiti artists as some kind of hero. The whole thing just annoyed me.
added on the 2005-12-06 18:12:50 by xeron xeron
well, the last postings by tft & xeron perfectly represent both poles of opinion on this issue.
Graff admirers like it, graff haters don't like it.
Was expectable somehow.
added on the 2005-12-06 23:13:25 by d0DgE d0DgE
Quote:
Or paint over the front of your house?


yes please. if you're a toy you'll get beaten up if you're good it's good. simple as that. =)
added on the 2005-12-07 00:56:48 by dipswitch dipswitch
one solution against graffiti, is to make your city beautiful in the first place.
added on the 2006-01-14 10:13:37 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Liked this one a lot, cool :)
rulez added on the 2006-01-14 12:28:40 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
fucking concrete jungle, we need color in our walls. fuck advertisements, everytime i see glued poster, sticker or graffiti, i know, there is people resistin'. fuck you society...
added on the 2006-01-14 12:37:52 by uns3en_ uns3en_
One of the better demo about that topic i've ever seen. Great.
rulez added on the 2006-01-25 13:43:45 by iks iks
rulez added on the 2006-07-25 23:08:47 by 4kum4 4kum4
"I'ma terrorist!"
cool video.
rulez added on the 2006-10-11 09:59:50 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
rulez added on the 2006-12-02 18:57:44 by xeNusion xeNusion
real fake real time!
rulez added on the 2008-05-04 03:58:22 by xernobyl xernobyl
Thumb for giving juvenile vandalism a platform, and the "urban art" aspect regarding the graffiti shown is highly questionable and doesn´t differ much from plain tagging.
Video composition is fine, though.
sucks added on the 2013-03-25 23:24:24 by T$ T$

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