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screenshot added by René Madenmann on 2005-09-18 19:44:14
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release date : september 2005
release party : Stream 2005
compo : pc 64k
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 43
  • is ok 22
  • sucks 2
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added on the 2005-09-18 18:32:52 by KK KK

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No video on Radeon 9600. If vertex shader 1.1 is disabled I only get the progress bar at the start.
sucks added on the 2005-09-18 18:50:03 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
quite varied content in terms of quality but nice overall, and worked perfectly on gf6800 go.
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 18:56:39 by parcelshit parcelshit
f-prot tells me its infected by trojan.tropper ?
added on the 2005-09-18 19:03:25 by uns3en_ uns3en_
My anti-virus said that too.
added on the 2005-09-18 19:06:11 by xernobyl xernobyl
I liked it. There are some rough parts (the tree scene eeew) but some very nice parts (opener) and altogether I want so see more prods from y'all in future. ( Basically, your modellers rock at abstract stuff, and the realistic stuff is always hard. )
Runs pretty well on my r9600, I assume weevil's config is a bit fucked up.

The content is amazing.
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 19:33:24 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
We know this problem but it´s no trojan so don´t worry. Btw. it is our first prod so stay tuned for upcoming prods by VeCTRONiX.
Thy all for your comments!

greets .bionic
added on the 2005-09-18 19:49:38 by bionic_vx bionic_vx
aaaand where's the file again?
added on the 2005-09-18 20:15:25 by Gargaj Gargaj
nice. worked perfectly on my radeon 9600 mobility. keep your drivers up-to-date :D
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 20:18:14 by las las
Correct download link is:
http://scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fparties%2F2005%2Fstream05%2Fin64%2Fvx-post.zip &fileinfo
(it seems that scene.org admins renamed the file to lowercase)


The intro is packed with MuCruncher and some not very intelligent virus scanners may assume that every .exe packed with MuCruncher is infected (at least I know that that's the case with McAffe and Upack).
added on the 2005-09-18 20:39:13 by KK KK
Way too incoherent to be enjoyable. Lots of it was good, lots of it was crappy, overall that balances into a piggie.
added on the 2005-09-18 21:34:57 by Preacher Preacher
It was great to watch it on a bigscreen (just kidding, haha, KK you know what I'm trying to say :))
Overall is nice to watch, not very boring, but I don't see any logical connection between those effects. UFO and stars are nice Actually it could explain the "plot" a bit, it might go this way: at first some military air craft was launched from the air plane, then a pilot was watching some random intros on his HUD, then there was a dogfight near the river and in the a city, then UFO guys got bored and started to watch some random intros, then of course UFO wins and in the night they organized a big party (possible with girls from earth and random demosceners).. am I right ?
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 23:13:17 by tomkh tomkh
Well, this, as name states, was created mainly to test our demotool V-Constructor, so scenes aren't connected too each other too much. Our future intros will surely have better design than this one.

Anyway, it seems that the tool has proven itself, which was the point.
added on the 2005-09-18 23:18:23 by KK KK
YESS YESS!!! ULTRALAME loves demomakerzZ :D
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 23:20:10 by FUN-thomas FUN-thomas
I disagree with Preacher here. Enough GOOD content and though long, entertaining and variant enough to be fun. Also i think this was their first non-werkkzeug intro so hey its cool!
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 23:37:04 by Gargaj Gargaj
i thought it was a WZ intro when i saw the screenshots. nice to see you've progressed to coding it yourself ;) But yeh, very incoherent stuff and rather dull content. also a piggie here
added on the 2005-09-19 00:17:44 by Maali Maali
Crashes here before it even starts (WinXP SP2, GF5200)
added on the 2005-09-19 00:20:10 by beavis77 beavis77
VeCTRONiX as a demogroup has never released any .werkkzeug production. Earlier vectronix.org used to be just .werkkzeug1-related forum, but some of us (including admins) decided to try forming real demogroup, with tools written by ourselves.


KAi: Do you have DirectX 9.0c (December 2004 or newer) and newest drivers?
added on the 2005-09-19 00:39:27 by KK KK
are you related to the atari group vectronix?
added on the 2005-09-19 00:50:48 by dipswitch dipswitch
Nice going for your first release with that tool of yours!
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 00:50:56 by ekoli ekoli
Krzysiek-K: maybe you should have chosen another group name since I don't recognize any Atari people in this new Vectronix ;) (besides Slippy)
added on the 2005-09-19 00:55:15 by keops keops
dipswitch: Yes. Slippy from the old VeCTRONiX created vectronix.org board and it was his idea to call our group this way.
added on the 2005-09-19 00:55:30 by KK KK
good borntro. design sux but as i say it`s first time. a lot of good job... so thumb-up this time.
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 01:23:49 by ninja ninja
Started out a bit ugly with the horrid colours, but ended quite beatiful. Really impressive length and I loved the music too.

Great work!
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 01:32:02 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
Great
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 07:04:08 by Buckethead Buckethead
nice but i hate the trees on the first part (ugly trees!!) rest is pretty cool
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 13:00:55 by ken0 ken0
I second preacher on this one.
added on the 2005-09-19 13:17:22 by break break
Good
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 13:51:22 by zeebr zeebr
some very nice effects.
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 19:29:13 by can can
General coders pr0n. There's some cute effect, but it's overall boring and uninspired: you can get better results from your routines.
added on the 2005-09-19 19:32:14 by dixan dixan
it looks like "My First 3DFX Demo(tm)" - horribly ugly. boring too. please add some filters or do some better texture-work to make it look less... crappy. :) still - i've seen worse first pc-intros so.
added on the 2005-09-19 21:25:28 by gloom gloom
Some good stuff, some quite bad stuff and way too incoherent. Piggie.
added on the 2005-09-19 21:47:14 by teel teel
The shadows scene rules. coders pr0n :)
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 22:04:30 by bdk bdk
Even the code is bad.
sucks added on the 2005-09-19 22:30:02 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
As I've said, it was meant to be mainly a test of our tool, so there is no design in this production. This intro isn't classical 'coded' intro, so what you can see isn't a bunch of creations from happy coder. It's rather graphician playing and learning the tool. After so much time spent on the tool I just wanted to release something what can prove it works. It still lacks post-processing, shaders, HDR and other hi-tech things, but you can expect them to be introduced in future productions.

If you still don't believe, here is a screenshot from the tool:
http://sphere.pl/~krzysiek/files/screens/vc_003.jpg

Yes, general tool design is similar to .werkkzeug1, but I think it's the best way of creating 64k intros, so big respect to Farbrausch for inventing it! The tool was coded from scratch by me and we didn't get any help from FR - we only learned ourselves how .wz1 works and decided that the same approach will work for us. Don't blame us for this - I'm sure some of you have already copied design from 3ds max and other tools. There is still much work to be done, but we are going to do it. Stay tuned for our future productions.

All demotool haters: in my optnion the tool is the only way to achieve smooth teamwork between artists and coders in making 64k, which also allows putting a lot of high quality content in 64k (ok, our demo isn't high quality, but take a look at FR or Conspiracy productions for better examples).


megadelux: I really wonder how have you managed to break into my computer and take a look at the code, so you can judge it.
added on the 2005-09-20 00:09:47 by KK KK
technically great for a first-intro. The design and flow however, is totally lacking, allthough some scenes alone looked ok. What gloom said
rulez added on the 2005-09-20 03:26:08 by Duckers Duckers
enjoyable :)
rulez added on the 2005-09-20 04:52:14 by namgibeht namgibeht
Really Awesome!
rulez added on the 2005-09-20 08:20:11 by Rubicante Rubicante
Great debut VeCTRONiX!
Same as on Atari, good 3D and music. ;)
Thank you for this tasteful trip.
Cheers
rulez added on the 2005-09-20 08:43:21 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
still some parts were are liitle bit boring...some were really amazing...overall: GREAT work...
rulez added on the 2005-09-20 11:07:08 by 4kum4 4kum4
heyya, VirusBuster also said that the vectronix.exe infected with a trojan :) 3 different source :) i start to belive it :)))))))
added on the 2005-09-20 11:59:30 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
Reports from virustotal.com (free online scanner using over 20 scanners with newest databases):
- Dropper.Small.13.O (AVG)
- Trojan.Muldrop.1697 (BitDefender, DrWeb)
- Trojan.Dropper.Small-24 (ClamAV)
- Win32.Rbot.BTT (eTrust-Vet)
- W32/Small.TO-tr (Fortinet)
- Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Small.TO (Ikarus, Kaspersky, NOD32v2, VBA32)
- W32/Sdbot.dr (McAffe)

AntiVir, Avast, Avira, CAT-QuickHeal, eTrust-Iris, F-Prot, Norman, Panda, Sophos, Symantec and TheHacker haven't found anything.

Do you think we can put so many viruses and trojans into 64k? ;) It seems that some viruses use MuCruncher to pack themselves and some antiviruses don't care about unpacking the file and alarm upon seeing decompression routines. Anyway, it's definitely a signal I should change .exe packer.
added on the 2005-09-20 14:29:36 by KK KK
Krzysiek-K:
No lightning visible that usually means you dont have any support for modern hw in your "tool" - material handling is the toughest part in modern engines.

Nothing visually good at all, just really really REALLY boring primitives.

The image flickers- seems to be spline or other timing errors.

Oh, and shadows isnt really anything "cool" today.
added on the 2005-09-20 15:32:27 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
megadelux: As I've said, these things are yet to be implemented. When I was creating material system, some of our graphicians had only GeForce 2, so I couldn't have used any pixelshaders and other cool things. I think material system is quite OK at the moment, allowing graphicians to create complex multipass materials quite easily (like starry sky with clouds or water surface reflecting sunset), but it can't offer more than GeForce 2 supports. Now all our artists have upgraded to at least GeForce FX, so you should be able to see some more advanced things in our future prods.

As for flickering image, at the moment I have no idea what can it be, but it works OK for me, so it's rather rendering bug showing up on certain driver/hardware combo rather than timing/spline errors.
added on the 2005-09-20 15:50:26 by KK KK
Oks, you said sir ! Thumb up for packing so many viruses into one 64k exe :)))
rulez added on the 2005-09-20 15:58:13 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
Krzysiek-K:
Stop bitching about what you are GOING to add, this sucks. Get over it.
added on the 2005-09-20 16:23:37 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Come on, 64k tool-demos are getting very boring. Most of them look like the other ones. I miss in them the creativity like in demo productions released for some time. These big-demos bring new ideas to us, tool made 64k demos look like tool-demos.
No thumb down or up, just a pig face.
added on the 2005-09-20 16:41:04 by Cj Cj
It's funny with those 64k packed virus reports lately. Can't run this from this netcafe cause virus reports pop up and they will kick my ass if I insist ;P (I will watch it at home)
added on the 2005-09-20 19:16:34 by Optimus Optimus
Radeon 9550 with latest drivers, no problems here. Good work, for first intro!
added on the 2005-09-20 20:54:00 by Manwe Manwe
[quote=megadelux]Stop bitching about what you are GOING to add, this sucks. Get over it.[/quote]
Dude...this is there FIRST intro. Chill out and show some respect. I think you should encourage growth not hinder it. In fact, let me see your awesome engine huh?

Anyway, KK are you guys planing on going to any other demo parties like Assembly or Breakpoint?
added on the 2005-09-21 02:33:28 by Rubicante Rubicante
Why should I show respect for lamers who produce crap?

What do you define as an "engine" ? Please tell.
added on the 2005-09-21 15:30:45 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Who the f*ck you think you are ?
Are you an über-scener or what gives you the right to claim somebody a lamer without knowing anything about us ... ??!

VeCTRONiX! has been founded in 1991 ... now I claim that you've been in kindergarten around this time ... eh ?

As you won't show any respect I won't do it as well ... although I didn't even want to get that low ... You RULE - we don't ! :)

get a life !
added on the 2005-09-21 15:52:22 by slippy slippy
Just stop arguing. Megadelux thinks our production is crap, he has full rights to think so and express his opinions here. If you hate this prod, it's all fine, but calling everybody a "lamer" won't get you anywhere.

Peace!
added on the 2005-09-21 16:14:50 by KK KK
slippy:
I think you just proved my point with you folks being true lamers.
added on the 2005-09-21 23:08:07 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
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rulez added on the 2005-09-21 23:26:12 by XP^TRS XP^TRS
could you not up an unpacked version so those of us stuck with lame virus scanners at work can watch it? :)
added on the 2005-09-22 10:59:26 by smash smash
Done. Unpacked version is in the archive linked below. :)

http://sphere.pl/~krzysiek/files/demos/VX-POST-Unpacked.zip
added on the 2005-09-22 15:23:29 by KK KK
The parts seemed "thrown together", I'd have liked a little more coherence between the different parts. Even if a bit "random", it looked nice.
rulez added on the 2005-09-22 21:44:59 by shash shash
My virus scanner found the trojan horse "TR/Drop.Smal.to.8.B" in the VX-POST.exe. Can some1 confirm this?
added on the 2005-10-05 22:14:22 by Salinga Salinga
Salinga:
read the comments...
rulez added on the 2005-10-06 15:39:21 by unc unc
Vectronix. Who Else!?
=)
rulez added on the 2005-10-08 03:02:27 by [ProToS] [ProToS]
rulez added on the 2005-10-11 20:28:28 by wie8 wie8
very sexy... nice graphics and sound. much more polished than the crap other people have been giving good ratings to.
rulez added on the 2005-11-12 09:24:08 by artanis artanis
code
rulez added on the 2005-12-22 22:03:05 by apricot apricot
i had some minor problems here, 1st scene was incredibly slow, and every now and then there was a frame totally misplaced (have you ever read the sentence "DirectSound's GetPosition function may be unaccurate sometimes" in kb's synth tutorial? :) ). the 2nd scene with the trees & street kinda sucked imho, but the rest was very nice!
rulez added on the 2005-12-22 22:39:51 by red red
Most Parts... very nice :) Like it :)
rulez added on the 2005-12-22 22:45:24 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
Pretty nice, I just miss a bit design. Still, very nice to watch, I especially love the landscapes here.
rulez added on the 2005-12-23 10:41:35 by StingRay StingRay
reddor: It uses waveOutGetPosition, but thanks for pointing this out. I guess I'll have to read this tutorial again. :) Also it's widely known fact that road scene... let's just say that it wasn't great. :)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! :)
added on the 2005-12-27 13:26:26 by KK KK
yep, thats good work !

to comment 1 from megadelux - you can explain fair but how you act here is simple "lame"

if you don´t like a prod - then say this with normal words
rulez added on the 2006-01-01 22:31:16 by AMI_TRS AMI_TRS
we like it... sorry slippy forgotten voting your intro...
rulez added on the 2006-04-29 12:46:02 by scimitar scimitar
THIS IS NOT THE REAL VECTRONIX!
added on the 2006-07-04 10:10:29 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Very sexy demo :)
rulez added on the 2007-07-05 21:16:35 by ecureuil ecureuil
Cool demo! Keep it up!
rulez added on the 2007-10-21 13:09:26 by Ized Ized
relaxed style
rulez added on the 2009-07-02 00:04:05 by gman gman
I dig the bitchfighting at the top of the page... :)
added on the 2009-07-02 02:16:08 by raer raer
sho-ryu-ken
rulez added on the 2009-07-02 03:25:28 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
Bruno & Bronko say YES!
rulez added on the 2009-07-02 09:32:24 by elkmoose elkmoose
managed to miss this one it seems.. as most said, very incoherent but i still like most of it.. and most definitely a good 1st prod.. so up goes the thumb :)
rulez added on the 2009-07-02 11:19:56 by mind mind
Cool !
rulez added on the 2009-07-02 17:51:36 by lsl lsl
i loved it in 2005)
rulez added on the 2009-07-02 18:00:13 by RRROAR RRROAR
Cool.
rulez added on the 2012-09-25 23:19:08 by Pirx Pirx
не запускается :( AMD ASUS R9 270x ( 14.12 ) :(
added on the 2015-03-15 19:26:51 by DIMABOOZ DIMABOOZ
kinda good for firstie
rulez added on the 2017-06-28 09:29:28 by FlashyYNT FlashyYNT

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