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Die Ewigkeit Schmerzt by neuro
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screenshot added by Gargaj on 2006-08-13 17:36:49
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release date : august 2006
release party : Evoke 2006
compo : combined demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 172
  • is ok 15
  • sucks 5
popularity : 4%
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added on the 2006-08-13 12:21:42 by Gargaj Gargaj

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This was probably the most awesome shit I've seen in a while!
The pacing and direction is so picture perfect that it deserves a scene.org award at least!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 12:26:47 by Gargaj Gargaj
I concur.
And windows port please! :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 13:02:43 by zoom zoom
this thumb up is for the pacing, music and style.

but the message - well, starts off with typical paniq lyrics and the end part was just a TOO cheap shot. seriously.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 13:05:26 by ryg ryg
Note to paniq: please wrap the "import psyco" call in lib/nedu/demo.py in a try...except ImportError: pass section for the sake of compatibility -- running slowly is better than not running at all :)
Secondly, are the shaders really, absolutely, utterly necessary? I'd love to watch the demo on my i915 ...
Apart from that: Total ownage!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 13:10:55 by KeyJ KeyJ
Took an eon to precalc, what's up with that?
added on the 2006-08-13 13:53:39 by bruce bruce
win32 port me beatyful!
added on the 2006-08-13 14:53:27 by bhead bhead
nice, make an english port of this portable demo :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 15:01:03 by bonzaj bonzaj
Took me a bit to make it work, after it did, I got the confirmation that this intriguing stuff paniq was working on at breakpoint really was going to be released in the end. I love it in principle, just wish it was more accessible..
added on the 2006-08-13 15:23:08 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Seems that I got it to work under Win32, i'll upload binaries or whatever as soon as the thing runs stable, etc.
added on the 2006-08-13 16:52:53 by Gargaj Gargaj
Great idea, smooth realization!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 17:22:17 by Shockwav3 Shockwav3
brilliant storyboarding and very smooth. it even shocked me a bit in my tired state at evoke. =)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 17:42:29 by earx earx
k, a video would be nice so i dont have to go thru the hassle to manage to run this, plz...
YAY! Gimme more! Nicest piece of demo shit at Evoke.. RULEZ!!!!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 19:25:08 by cxt cxt
i love it! lyrics and track together affect me even more, than the track already does alone. awesome atmosphere!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 19:30:45 by kleene kleene
okay, experimental w32 port here: http://umlaut.intro.hu/~gargaj/code/neuro-die_ewigkeit_schmerzt-w32.zip
please note that this is entirely unofficial, so there's no warranty whether it works :)
(hint: use -w for windowed - it's recommended)
added on the 2006-08-13 19:35:37 by Gargaj Gargaj
u r the man ;)
added on the 2006-08-13 20:06:17 by mrdoob mrdoob
Very cool!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 20:12:18 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
thank you all for the friendly comments so far!

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but the message - well, starts off with typical paniq lyrics and the end part was just a TOO cheap shot. seriously.


i couldn't have done it any other way.

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Note to paniq: please wrap the "import psyco" call in lib/nedu/demo.py in a try...except ImportError: pass section for the sake of compatibility -- running slowly is better than not running at all :)


i thought i included psyco in the file - did i forget it? what special error did you get? i agree, psyco is not really needed, it still runs fast enough.

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Secondly, are the shaders really, absolutely, utterly necessary? I'd love to watch the demo on my i915 ...


there is one shader used which does uv scaling to do the "drawing" effect. since i am doing this with a 5mb curved lettering polygon, i doubt that anything in software could be that fast. wait for the video.

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Took an eon to precalc, what's up with that?


you might notice that in a subdirectory, svg sources (scalar vector format) are included. those shapes are being polygonized and outlined during the loading process which takes ages the first time you run the demo. it creates cache files so it loads much faster the second time.

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I love it in principle, just wish it was more accessible..


can you explain that further?

gargaj, great work. didn't have a look yet but i was told it works.
added on the 2006-08-13 20:17:05 by paniq paniq
super ace design and execution.
love this!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 20:25:58 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
nice show! brilliant music!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 20:28:03 by mrdoob mrdoob
thanks paniq, thanks gargaj. good thing.

but ... 5 minutes of loading time... wtf. :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 20:39:29 by yoda yoda
Wow, very great. Is there a Scene.org Award category for demos that are "different"? Great music, great pace but the lyrics are too emo for my taste.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 21:03:12 by elend elend

Why is this in dutch though?
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 21:14:33 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
Yeah, the dutch sucks ;-)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 21:19:10 by sparcus sparcus
Qualitätstest: sehr gut.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 21:22:07 by jimmi jimmi
<3
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 21:46:40 by abductee abductee
awesome :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 22:00:09 by kusma kusma
Shame for the german lyrics, it's quite hard to follow for a non-kraut like myself. And i'm not too fond of the message either.. then again, the direction and typography is very well presented.. so a thumb!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-13 22:42:51 by okkie okkie
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but the message - well, starts off with typical paniq lyrics and the end part was just a TOO cheap shot.

In fact, it ruined the demo.

Waiting for a lorem ipsum version.
added on the 2006-08-14 00:36:11 by Shifter Shifter
English subtitles, please!!! :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 00:38:24 by xernobyl xernobyl
This should appeal to the wider 'arts' community!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 00:54:41 by beavis77 beavis77
win32 port crashes:
>run.exe -w
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "run.py", line 11, in ?
File "scene_main.pyc", line 7, in ?
File "nedu\demo.pyc", line 2, in ?
File "nedu\frame.pyc", line 7, in ?
File "nedu\sdlframe.pyc", line 7, in ?
File "nedu\sdl.pyc", line 256, in ?
IndexError: list index out of range



video, PLEASE????? or official windows port? cuz my ati linux drivers are not cooperating...
W32 port works for me. Insane loading time indeed. Nice timing and something you don't see too often, yet, as a demo it doesn't work for me. And I don't like the music either.
added on the 2006-08-14 01:47:59 by StingRay StingRay
I would NOT reccommend the -w parameter. eh, the loadtime isnt that bad. it's the suspense... no loadbar...

i watched this on demoscene.tv, and i was impressed. now after watching it again, who would ever think that 4 colors would bring so much happiness?

a timeless classic.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 05:46:09 by praetor_alpha praetor_alpha
this was the only good demo in the whole compo so I'm really really really glad it won :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 05:48:16 by leijaa leijaa
The title clearly refers to the loading time. ;) And yes, we need a video too.
added on the 2006-08-14 09:13:39 by tomaes tomaes
thank you all for the comments so far...

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Why is this in dutch though?


it's german. at the beginning of the project i had the choice of doing this in english and thus opening for a larger audience, or choose the language of the people watching this on the bigscreen, to increase the emotional effect. you know that words in english sound more distant and less associated with imagery when it's not your mother tongue. i will add a translation.

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Great music, great pace but the lyrics are too emo for my taste.


the demo is not, as shifter called it, a "typical german angst" demo, but it describes the dissolution of the ego, induced by e.g. consciousness altering chemicals, followed by a love poem to existence and time that in the end violently pulls the spectator back to the political, economical, religious and ecological problems of our time.

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English subtitles, please!!! :)


yup, will be in the final.

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The title clearly refers to the loading time. ;)


hehe :)
added on the 2006-08-14 09:43:29 by paniq paniq
Some more reading info

http://www.eve-rave.net/abfahrer/drugchecking.sp?text=1&page=9

this is in german. maybe someone can find an english version?
added on the 2006-08-14 09:47:41 by paniq paniq
elend: the scene award category you mean does exist: "most original concept".
added on the 2006-08-14 09:52:23 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
what a great demo. i really enjoyed this one. great work!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 12:24:40 by sobec sobec
more about the "angstvolle ichauflösung"

http://www.focus.at/artikel/adi_aet2.html

can anyone find english texts relating to this?
added on the 2006-08-14 12:40:54 by paniq paniq
video is in the works...
added on the 2006-08-14 13:17:49 by ryg ryg
die Ewigkeit schmerzt
rulezcdcadded on the 2006-08-14 13:24:33 by red red
sorry for crashing the party a bit here, but anyone with some basic professional typographic design knowledge would probably find this example of fontplay rather dull and static. I can't read german, and that lessens the impact for me, but still there are ways to make this more universally accessible by creatively manipulating the letters. just take a look at the books by jan tschihold and emil ruder...

well, it's worth a thumb for trying a new direction for all the scene. keep it up! 8)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 15:49:06 by bhead bhead
bhead, yes you are right. there is lot of room to add all kind of font animation trickery and so on, but that would have required a lot more work than i was able to put in.

i am looking forward to other productions that go in similar directions.
added on the 2006-08-14 15:56:33 by paniq paniq
nice effect, but not sure if that's enough for a thumb
added on the 2006-08-14 17:23:45 by gg|rhg gg|rhg
i kinda agree with bhead here, there could be done a LOT more with typographic elements. and also, those small "growing" ornaments in the letters could have been used more excessively.

but it's still a nice and unusual prod.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 17:32:24 by dipswitch dipswitch
wow ryg, good recording... why is there no floating point problem at the end? what card is this?
added on the 2006-08-14 17:37:57 by paniq paniq
I already gave my thumb up but I just wanted to add that I really like that this demo actually has a message. That some people seem to opose that message is not a problem, atleast it makes them think

Art has always been a powerful way to express yourself and although abstract audiovisual shows are nice too we really need to see more demos like this IMHO.
added on the 2006-08-14 17:45:38 by sparcus sparcus
That was really nice.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 17:48:04 by Cj Cj
wowwow!! excellent work here! watched it twice right away, now probably gonna watch third time :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 18:13:28 by shadez shadez
paniq: recorded on a radeon X1600 with 6x multisample antialias, then downscaled to 800x600.
added on the 2006-08-14 18:17:03 by ryg ryg
awsome! great execution. wold love a english version
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 18:28:59 by quisten quisten
coolio
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 19:28:55 by Tron Swanson Tron Swanson
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i thought i included psyco in the file - did i forget it?

You included it, but psyco seems so be _very_ picky about the underlying Python version. I don't remember the exact wording, but the message was complaining about psyco's .so file not being compiled for my installed version of Python (2.4.4c0 from Debian unstable).
added on the 2006-08-14 19:42:57 by KeyJ KeyJ
unless ballet dancer 2 comes out later this year, this will be an easy pick for the most original concept scene.org award 2006.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 20:00:29 by px px
"ballet dancer 2"
"most original concept"
HMMM.
added on the 2006-08-14 20:03:37 by ryg ryg
Well, the concept is not original but the execution is well done and music cool.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 20:44:59 by Zplex Zplex
great demo.. despite a really überlong loading time. still rocks ;)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 21:20:06 by nystep nystep
great experience, but 8minutes loadingtime (2.4ghz) is a no-go!
added on the 2006-08-14 21:58:21 by v3nom v3nom
yes.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 22:03:12 by Blackspawn Blackspawn
again, i apologize for the loading time. it can be avoided by distributing some of the cache files.
added on the 2006-08-14 23:15:14 by paniq paniq
i remember this effect from hardwired, but this one has more endless (or something), thumb for the palette
rulezadded on the 2006-08-14 23:28:09 by the_Ye-Ti the_Ye-Ti
What Gargaj said, plus übercool lyrics!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-15 03:12:35 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
Very nice, and a surprising amount of variety considering the relatively "basic" concept. (Bearing in mind I have no idea what it says...)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-15 05:20:13 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
really cool show, enjoyed it a lot. although i think the idea isn't that new and the message is a bit too obvious. the music is quite nice in a way.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-15 12:14:24 by a-move a-move
The The first time i saw an text zoomer effect it was in Hardwired/TSL+Crionics "Crionics Demo Anal 1991" :)
Nice to see this effect updated
The logo part is very cool
rulezadded on the 2006-08-15 14:15:03 by BackSpace BackSpace
The first time i saw an text zoomer effect it was in Hardwired/TSL+Crionics "Crionics Demo Anal 1991" :)
Nice to see this effect updated
The logo part is very cool
added on the 2006-08-15 14:15:36 by BackSpace BackSpace
rulezadded on the 2006-08-15 15:06:47 by psenough psenough
Hehe probably the best "linux" demo ever. Funny thing was that I was able to read most of the text and my germany skills utterly suck.

Shaders seem like very unnecessary but at least I got a ps 2.0 compatible nvidia graphics card for 20 euros. :)

Deserves a scene.org award. Huge thumb up!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-15 17:17:04 by waffle waffle
What. The. Fuck.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-15 19:56:10 by Preacher Preacher
whoa.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 05:32:53 by got got
Nice nice nice!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 10:23:57 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
kick ass music. Especially in the parts without strings and piano. :) Very cool 2D vector demo too.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 13:57:21 by loaderror loaderror
very motion graphics alike or something, but really really nice. nice use of vector graphics :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 14:10:40 by uns3en_ uns3en_
I like this style!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 19:52:34 by bodo^rab bodo^rab
Wow, this is fucking excellent.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 22:22:04 by scamp scamp
I've been waiting for this puppy to be released for almost half a year now, and i regret no single day of it.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 23:13:14 by kb_ kb_
Awesome stuff.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-16 23:17:42 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
Schmerz mit Freude
rulezadded on the 2006-08-17 00:23:26 by T$ T$
very good timing, I like it!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-17 01:04:16 by ghandy ghandy
I agree with Loaderror. The music is fantastic, especially with the piano. Other than that, i really enjoyed this demo a lot. Very well done and original.

When i watched this for the first time, i kept wanting to read the text but my german is so bad that i gave up and just enjoyed the demo.

Really nice release! Well done!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-17 13:01:13 by z5 z5
damn excellent tune, enjoyable demo. tried and failed to grasp the lyrics but i trust ryg :D
rulezadded on the 2006-08-17 13:44:18 by skrebbel skrebbel
Whoah, awesome
rulezadded on the 2006-08-17 14:40:35 by dairos dairos
gut gut gut
rulezadded on the 2006-08-17 16:30:36 by manx manx
i was fucking moved to tears when i saw this on evoke... demoscene -> emoscene
rulezadded on the 2006-08-18 02:25:44 by hypo hypo
great great great. true art.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-18 22:25:13 by jco jco
Doesn't work here... Opens up a console and changes screenmode but nothing happens.

Maybe i'll give it another shot when i install a proper operating system.
added on the 2006-08-19 00:42:36 by kurli kurli
top musicstyle, top idea for gfx style amd lyrics ..

ums kurz zu machen : Aller Erste Sahne
rulezadded on the 2006-08-19 01:15:30 by quickyman quickyman
rulezadded on the 2006-08-19 04:31:30 by iks iks
loved it and still do.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-19 12:07:44 by keith303 keith303
awesome! would love an english version though :p
rulezadded on the 2006-08-20 07:03:25 by wb wb
ich verstehe nicht
aber es war gut
rulezadded on the 2006-08-21 11:07:55 by Sverker Sverker
lyrics are here

english translation is here
added on the 2006-08-21 13:13:01 by paniq paniq
omfg
rulezadded on the 2006-08-21 16:56:44 by BoyC BoyC
rockt
rulezadded on the 2006-08-21 18:19:47 by src src
the lyrics are not for me (and what do the corporate logos have to do with anything?) but the feeling created by the music and motion is just great.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-21 18:49:18 by fiver2^fB fiver2^fB
Well produced, but boring.
Also, whiny.
sucksadded on the 2006-08-21 23:00:32 by lug00ber lug00ber
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the lyrics are not for me (and what do the corporate logos have to do with anything?) but the feeling created by the music and motion is just great.


the demo passes following stages of the divine experience/hero myth: (ego) introspection/collapse/destruction - death - (universe) revelation/enlightenment - (world) resurrection/contemplation

it is not only corporate logos. the order is important.

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Also, whiny.


no, i'm a happy being. not all parts of the demo are self-destructive. think again please.
added on the 2006-08-22 01:19:42 by paniq paniq
subtly and meaningful with good style and fantastic music
i love it
rulezadded on the 2006-08-22 06:44:31 by funkyou78 funkyou78
The big loading while no bar was displayed made me quit the app. Please have some loading indication for your demos!

At the third time I decided to become a bit more patient. Great concept and music, really well executed and German lyrics in demos is another bonus for me, they really make the atmosphere and hopefully I can almost understand them :)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-22 13:23:31 by Optimus Optimus
Fantastic ! One of the best demos I have ever seen, a window into a totally different world.

This is truly great, well done.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-22 14:21:02 by Navis Navis
Awesome! By far one of the most original Demos since a very long time! Furthermore you totally hit my taste, well done, black white, plain gfx with smooth fadings from one object to another. Who needs more? A good Musik? You got JCO ;)
rulezadded on the 2006-08-23 00:49:18 by vscd vscd
Ah, if only my understanding of deutsche was better...
rulezadded on the 2006-08-23 04:27:38 by praest76 praest76
oh yes the tune rules.
added on the 2006-08-23 20:12:28 by skrebbel skrebbel
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Who needs more? A good Musik? You got JCO ;)


music and visuals are one. i had something else before. it has to be this way.
added on the 2006-08-24 13:32:18 by paniq paniq
Text will never be the same again.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-24 23:33:33 by LiraNuna LiraNuna
so fucking simple, but just great.
rulezadded on the 2006-08-25 19:51:33 by hunta hunta
windows port crashes whle loading (win2k, 1ghz, 256mb ram, gf4mx).
added on the 2006-08-25 20:30:41 by dipswitch dipswitch
HEY! timing - music
GR8 stuFF!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-26 01:08:02 by 9M4N 9M4N
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windows port crashes whle loading (win2k, 1ghz, 256mb ram, gf4mx).
it needs shaders (tho it would rock if it didnt).
Nice style. All texts but lots of rotations. I agree that the loading took way too long. Need a graph or a warning about it.
added on the 2006-08-26 23:07:52 by AntDude AntDude
me likes
rulezadded on the 2006-08-28 21:15:48 by kanttu kanttu
Hochbegabt
rulezadded on the 2006-08-29 09:07:40 by chromag chromag
Hey kids! Nothing beat a nice clean install of your favorite hippie OS!

Code: nuey@kindred:~/Desktop/cock$ ./demo nedu.res(64): initializing search paths nedu.res(30): adding scene path '/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu' nedu.res(39): adding resource path '/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/res' nedu.res(23): setting cachepath to "/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/cache" nedu.res(39): adding resource path '/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/lib' nedu.res(39): adding resource path '/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu' nedu.res(30): adding scene path '.' nedu.res(39): adding resource path 'res' nedu.res(23): setting cachepath to "./cache" Traceback (most recent call last): File "demo.py", line 13, in ? nedu.run('--music','ba','--sps','48000', '-f','--width','1024','--height','76 8','.') File "/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/__init__.py", line 58, in run demo.Demo().run(**options) File "/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/demo.py", line 89, in run self.frame = frame.Frame(demo=self,**kargs) File "/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/frame.py", line 9, in Frame return sdlframe.Frame(*args, **kargs) File "/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/sdlframe.py", line 18, in __init__ sound.init() File "/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/sound.py", line 33, in init sdl_mixer = library.load('SDL_mixer','SDL_mixer-1.2') File "/home/nuey/Desktop/cock/lib/nedu/library.py", line 52, in load assert m, "libraries %s not found" % ','.join(["'%s'" % a for a in names]) AssertionError: libraries 'SDL_mixer','SDL_mixer-1.2' not found nuey@kindred:~/Desktop/cock$


Info file doesn't help a hopeless n00b like me either. So... in other words:

'Frankfurter' ?
added on the 2006-08-29 22:47:17 by Shifter Shifter
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AssertionError: libraries 'SDL_mixer','SDL_mixer-1.2' not found

i think you need to install sdl_mixer...

added on the 2006-08-29 22:57:41 by Sverker Sverker
Tribao: That was obvious, and not the point of the post :)

As trace so eloquently put it elsewhere:
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Looks like it's not in Ubuntu.
I mean, I don't have any problema about installing stuff, but I don't think is fair :)


...and paniq was just showing off his love for cock and ranting about how the manual omitted how to apt-get stuff, but the gist is the same -*his* demo doesn't work without having to run off and install crap that isn't already there either :)
added on the 2006-08-29 23:45:55 by Shifter Shifter
nice!!
rulezadded on the 2006-08-30 00:16:30 by SIRIaX SIRIaX
there is a precise list of libs to be installed here
added on the 2006-08-30 08:22:28 by paniq paniq
shifter, my criticism wasn't about libs i have to install - it was about libs my distro doesn't provide.
added on the 2006-08-30 08:25:34 by paniq paniq
that's a list of things on the compo machine, not neccesairily the requirements of the demos running on it. Plus, they're not in the info file.

True, this was more a stab at what Trace had to bitch about. But that doesn't change the fact that this demo doesn't run without having to fiddle around.

And hey, my distro seemed devoid of wine -but that was nothing adding a line in the repository list could beat. You could consider bitching less about the frailities of life :)
added on the 2006-08-30 22:21:29 by Shifter Shifter
Is it just me or is this a genuine (nearly) infinite-zoomer using SVG graphics for really tiny stuff?

Oh, and for me it worked immediately on Ubuntu (Xubuntu to be precise), but then again I've got more than just the default install here. The files you need to get are probably in the universe repository, which must be specially enabled in Synaptic.

I DID, however, have a problem in one screen right after the last german word fades out- the screen went gray and stayed that way until the symbol-zoomer part.
added on the 2006-08-31 01:44:25 by crusader crusader
so fucking refreshing it hurts
rulezadded on the 2006-08-31 17:34:08 by thec thec
shifter: ok ;)

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Is it just me or is this a genuine (nearly) infinite-zoomer using SVG graphics for really tiny stuff?


yes it is. at least if you arrange the elements right. you cant do it in svg directly, you need to use your own editor for that.

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I DID, however, have a problem in one screen right after the last german word fades out- the screen went gray and stayed that way until the symbol-zoomer part.


weird. did the growthings appear in the first scene?

added on the 2006-09-02 16:08:32 by paniq paniq
Uh, no. The first thing I see (once the music starts) is 'warum fühle ich' rushing in at me on a white background. The last thing I see is 'allein' rushing out, and then the piano starts. All I can see for a minute or so is a static distorted 3-shaped sort of thing that looks more like a leftover display artifact than any demo object.

I don't have Pixel Shaders 2 on this thing (GeForce 4 Ti 4200 Go)... maybe I need some other SDL component I don't have installed?

(I checked the page of requirements and all that's missing was libsdl-sound1.2)
added on the 2006-09-04 08:16:52 by crusader crusader
Hmm... as for growthings, having seen the video, I didn't exactly see them as intended. Instead of growing, they seem to show up as zoomed in overlays, for the period of time they SHOULD be growing (according to the video). It's a rather odd effect, and makes a few of the words much harder to read (not that I can read German anyway- I never would have guessed anything like the translation)

I saw nothing like the text outline drawing. That's where the artifact comes in, and that's where I'm guessing the pixel shaders are required.
added on the 2006-09-04 09:10:56 by crusader crusader
yep. vertex shaders are required to transform uv coordinates smoothly. and i guess you do not have those either.
added on the 2006-09-04 16:09:24 by paniq paniq
Well, I'm going to thumb it up anyway, because what I saw was enough for a thumb.
rulezadded on the 2006-09-05 03:20:14 by crusader crusader
rulezadded on the 2006-09-05 12:01:18 by las las
strange&nice!
rulezadded on the 2006-09-05 14:59:09 by NuKem NuKem
it was so great, watching it, lying down in front of the bigscreen.
way to go! :)
rulezadded on the 2006-09-05 22:38:02 by cp_ cp_
Superb! Long loading tho... how about some threading to speed things up next time?
rulezadded on the 2006-09-06 14:13:30 by psonice psonice
so nice %)
rulezadded on the 2006-09-06 14:32:02 by venire venire
Hurts.
rulezadded on the 2006-09-06 18:56:34 by eye eye
like it! But very overrated at the moment. So just a pig :(

@paniq,
ich finde dieses Teil aus künstlerischer Sicht echt Geil. Passt halt nicht wirklich in die Demoscene.

hehe, je mehr ich drüber nachdenk desto eher lande ich beim thumb up. :) Na gut. Erinnert mich irgendwie an die Demos "Weltschmerz" & "Millenium Fever". Jetzt sind es 3. :)

Idee, Musik, Sync sind echt gut.
rulezadded on the 2006-09-06 21:05:23 by seppjo seppjo
owww holy shit.
rulezadded on the 2006-09-07 14:41:43 by tsw tsw
Quote:
Superb! Long loading tho... how about some threading to speed things up next time?


unfortunately, neither glu nor python support threaded loading. but there are other methods to speed this up. as said, the second time, it loads way faster.
rulezadded on the 2006-09-07 15:02:22 by paniq paniq
loves it :-)
rulezadded on the 2006-09-07 17:36:55 by Quarryman Quarryman
zoom \o/
rulezadded on the 2006-09-07 20:44:53 by bstrr bstrr
awesome
rulezadded on the 2006-09-07 22:50:13 by ithaqua ithaqua
sweet uppercut!
rulezadded on the 2006-09-08 17:12:14 by Zest Zest
Might be more interesting if I knew German. Picks up a bit in the end but still an anti-thumb.
sucksadded on the 2006-09-10 14:04:32 by El Topo El Topo
nice product.
rulezadded on the 2006-09-10 21:48:55 by dq dq
Indeed nice and original.
rulezadded on the 2006-09-11 12:18:22 by DaD1916 DaD1916
very cool - I like shapy ,vector alike stuff
rulezadded on the 2006-09-11 16:25:19 by ck ck
very cool idea and realization! sehr gut!
rulezadded on the 2006-09-14 07:21:39 by zeebr zeebr
sits there for a long time, then exits prematurely.
added on the 2006-09-24 06:08:01 by legalize legalize
man.. this does good things to my ears. I haven't been sucked in by mastering like that for a long time.
beautiful prod with great design
rulezadded on the 2006-09-25 08:26:07 by Gaia Gaia
vector graphics ownage! nice one!
rulezadded on the 2006-10-01 02:20:45 by scorpion scorpion
if (os.getlogin() == "legalize"):
raise SystemExit
added on the 2006-10-04 20:00:52 by paniq paniq
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT? ;)
rulezadded on the 2006-10-08 12:11:51 by kurli kurli
Pretty much the coolest shit I ever seen!
rulezadded on the 2006-10-12 01:22:05 by ekoli ekoli
Iwanted to say "nice" but it will be as to say to Mozzart's 'Requiem' it was nice:)
Anyway -- i like it.
For the "brand new outstanding design" I just want to remind, similar effect (with all limitation of technology) we already seen in Hardwired demo (one of the first sequences). in Die EwigkeitSchmerz we hawe the idea polished to Glanz and pulled to extent -- the result is indeed outstanding. I didn't look at the code yet...
rulezadded on the 2006-10-21 09:04:31 by bizun_ bizun_
gut gut!
rulezadded on the 2006-10-28 19:41:54 by absadhkjsaduoiw1 absadhkjsaduoiw1
paniq: google for "dread of ego dissolution", which seems to be the most common translation for "angstvolle ichauflösung"
added on the 2006-11-29 02:04:22 by Gargaj Gargaj
this sucks.
sucksadded on the 2006-12-28 06:20:58 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
a demo with a message
rulezadded on the 2006-12-28 11:21:30 by Spin Spin
Lovely, lovely music - if I could change onbe thing, however, I would amplify the pads here and there - but that's just minor details.

Overall, a great prod.
rulezadded on the 2007-01-03 10:15:23 by Nutman^IRIS Nutman^IRIS
Original and well polished, but boring.
added on the 2007-01-06 00:50:09 by slack slack
linux support
sucksadded on the 2007-01-06 05:13:31 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Refreshing. Revolutionary. Ritkajó!
rulezadded on the 2007-01-06 10:55:59 by FooLman FooLman
masterpiece.
rulezadded on the 2007-01-14 15:28:59 by soolta soolta
great.. could not understand it without translation, which sucks :(
rulezadded on the 2007-01-30 10:16:02 by rale rale
oh, I forget something :)
rulezadded on the 2007-02-05 10:41:26 by psykon psykon
...even tho the effect was invented back in 1991's HARDWIRED... ;)
added on the 2007-03-18 02:23:45 by soolta soolta
Cool ... if only it was in English :\
rulezadded on the 2007-03-18 03:03:40 by p01 p01
Smooth!
rulezadded on the 2007-04-16 18:53:01 by Mystra Mystra
best, most innovative and most stylish demo of 2006! I love you Paniq for this one!
rulezcdcadded on the 2007-04-16 19:04:42 by Bobic Bobic
Really cool, no doubt.

And Stefan proves to be a jealous idiot once again with his retarded comments when facing stuff lightyears above his piglet's skills.
rulezadded on the 2007-04-16 19:09:32 by keops keops
this oozes style, it is fantastic
rulezcdcadded on the 2007-05-18 12:57:27 by bfx bfx
"die ewigkeit sssmeerzsst" ;) was fun at the scene.org awards
added on the 2007-05-18 13:42:02 by v3nom v3nom
Awesome stylish demo, great job!
rulezadded on the 2007-05-18 18:01:22 by Nezbie Nezbie
don't run here
sucksadded on the 2007-05-28 22:00:21 by sokoban sokoban
Fucking great. Excellent in every aspect. I love you.
rulezadded on the 2007-06-17 16:59:49 by Drunk_Poet Drunk_Poet
sweet although i had to watch the video, the windows port does not launch :(
rulezadded on the 2007-06-18 22:03:33 by ٩๏̯͡๏۶ ٩๏̯͡๏۶
Lovely and phat at the same time. Congrats!

@sokoban/Guardian: For me all ok with winXP, of course the 1st time it runs insane precalc time after resolution switching (a bit less than 195/95/256 of course :)...

but it worths it!
rulezadded on the 2007-06-19 23:27:18 by bdk bdk
well i could try again, i have a P4 2.4ghz after all, it's a 6 years old config appart the 6600gt
for taking a simple idea, and executing it perfectly.
rulezadded on the 2007-06-20 01:07:16 by havoc havoc
At one point, I briefly considered making a parody of this called "die ewigkeit scherzt (macht witze)". Those sketchy camera moves and druggy emo lyrics are just asking for it. :)
added on the 2007-06-20 16:47:13 by tomaes tomaes
oooh.. kinda amiga-style (anal 1991? :) .. took forever to load though and i didn't get a loading screen.. thought maybe it crashed but the hd was going so i kept hope. looking at the english translation, i kinda like having the german text instead, looks more aggresive and less emo. :) paniq has to be one of my fave scene-connected musicians, i need to get more of his non-demo stuff eventually.
rulezadded on the 2007-06-30 23:40:54 by phoenix phoenix
I really like this prod, but i have only tried the windows port. It would be nice with a possibility to change screen res, but it's just small details.

I'm trying to get the demo working on opensuse 10.2, where i did a custom private install of Python 2.4.4, because it doesn't work with 2.5. I'm using the fglrx 8.35.5 with ati mobility firegl v5200 (~x1600). But this is what i get... Anyone have any ideas?

Code:(everything seems right before here) ... ... File "/root/Desktop/neuro/lib/nedu/demo.py", line 81, in import_scene return __import__(scenename).Scene(demo=self,**kargs) File "/root/Desktop/neuro/scene_main.py", line 31, in __init__ self.scenes[0.0] = scene_goin.Scene(demo) File "/root/Desktop/neuro/scene_goin.py", line 64, in __init__ self.grow1 = growfx.Grow(color=(1.0,1.0,1.0),seed=667297) File "/root/Desktop/neuro/growfx.py", line 40, in __init__ self.globalmat.realize() File "/root/Desktop/neuro/lib/nedu/material.py", line 85, in realize self.shader_program = GLSL.create_program(self.shaderassembly) File "/root/Desktop/neuro/lib/nedu/GLSL.py", line 286, in create_program vs = compile_vertex_shader(vcode) File "/root/Desktop/neuro/lib/nedu/GLSL.py", line 212, in compile_vertex_shader vertex_shader.compile() File "/root/Desktop/neuro/lib/nedu/GLSL.py", line 172, in compile raise ShaderCompileError,log nedu.GLSL.ShaderCompileError Error in sys.excepthook: Original exception was: Error in sys.excepthook: Original exception was: Error in sys.excepthook: Original exception was: T60p:~/Desktop/neuro #
rulezadded on the 2007-07-07 18:43:03 by donoe donoe
It would deserve my coup de coeur, impressed, outstanding, i just love it.
rulezadded on the 2007-07-07 20:12:03 by SilkCut SilkCut
forgot to say it froze on windows, so i took the video. Thanks for the effort anyway.
added on the 2007-07-07 20:13:03 by SilkCut SilkCut
grossartig.
rulezadded on the 2007-12-17 04:25:28 by orange orange
Just noticed the lyrics translation. Thank's :P
added on the 2008-01-11 17:33:17 by xernobyl xernobyl
Nice, polished, but I couldn't shake the "I've seen this done before" feeling. And the part with the logos was just lame.
added on the 2008-01-11 18:06:46 by stijn stijn
This is so cool! Nice typographics!
rulezadded on the 2008-01-11 19:35:17 by yandexx yandexx
Hochachtungsvoll,
rulezadded on the 2008-01-11 20:11:02 by rpfr rpfr
ganz großes kino wie ich finde, moderne kunst. hat mich sehr berührt.
rulezadded on the 2008-04-28 00:32:18 by relias abardon relias abardon
can anyone beat 800kbps AVC? (grab your fave AVC decoder like ffdshow or coreavc) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VVN85SZ7

PNGs as kkaptured: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1129772#post1129772
rulezadded on the 2008-05-03 07:37:42 by plonk420 plonk420
Cool even if i don't understand german :P
rulezadded on the 2008-05-11 19:00:42 by Queen bittin Queen bittin
Very neat concept. :) Nice to see it reused in other prods.
rulezadded on the 2008-07-20 03:04:05 by micksam7 micksam7
rulezadded on the 2008-07-26 01:03:05 by #535 #535
rulezadded on the 2008-07-26 01:30:00 by Alpha C Alpha C
awesome concept and style ! great stuff !!!
rulezadded on the 2008-07-26 03:13:19 by DJH of GCS! DJH of GCS!
stylish!
rulezadded on the 2008-07-26 16:23:39 by neoneye neoneye
Currently my favourite demo.
rulezadded on the 2008-08-14 16:52:16 by Adok Adok
I really like the flow and the music on this. It would look awesome with a bit of texture/overlays but still a good show.
rulezadded on the 2008-09-07 20:19:04 by Wade Wade
awesome effects
rulezadded on the 2008-10-26 20:59:33 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
better late than never ;)
rulezadded on the 2008-10-26 21:03:07 by magic magic
German typographic design at its finest! Excellent prod, congrats!
rulezadded on the 2009-01-10 01:54:35 by Cleaner Cleaner
grossartig
rulezadded on the 2009-01-10 03:01:22 by Sir Sir
 
rulezadded on the 2009-01-15 20:25:10 by Joghurt Joghurt
LOVE it (=
rulezadded on the 2009-01-15 20:34:58 by RRROAR RRROAR
big thumb.
rulezadded on the 2009-01-15 21:53:34 by pommak pommak
I love the soundtrack and the mood. Even though I'm getting tired of scene poetry. Pure design.
rulezadded on the 2009-02-02 09:49:46 by elfan elfan
Minimalist, energic... Just massive. (althougt I don't understand German, looks nice anyway)
Paniq, please continue to release this kind of outstanding experiences !
rulezadded on the 2009-02-14 23:45:06 by kyapiko kyapiko
YEAH
rulezadded on the 2009-02-15 00:56:47 by texel texel
crash here (or at least loading take so much time that i closed it)
added on the 2009-04-04 16:35:34 by Tigrou Tigrou
love
rulezadded on the 2009-04-30 13:20:39 by unc unc
love it
rulezadded on the 2009-06-05 20:15:59 by Inorix Inorix
First demo i saw to only use text. You never get bored though.Good one.
rulezadded on the 2009-06-11 06:36:47 by Zweckform Zweckform
.
rulezadded on the 2009-08-16 19:17:13 by pera pera
awesome music
awesome design/direction
rulezadded on the 2009-10-13 00:25:00 by wullon wullon
vote missing! tnx gargaj !

i feel connected to all this zooming_poem !!!

feels just perfectly executed! in this environment called germany ! ( in this concept i wanted to say, sorries ! )
rulezadded on the 2009-10-13 00:39:13 by hArDy. hArDy.
original style, but it's not interesting
added on the 2009-10-13 10:21:40 by fyrex fyrex
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rulezadded on the 2009-10-14 14:49:00 by Confused Confused
how could I have missed out on this one!

great design demo!

(win32 exe did not work, just a white screen showing a spinning cursor (vista/9800gt))
rulezadded on the 2009-12-29 06:56:01 by xyz xyz
strike that -- the win32 exe *does* work, I was just a bit too impatient ;)
added on the 2009-12-29 07:03:25 by xyz xyz
can't remember if i voted this one. I loved it, despite the fact I can't german... would really love a video version with english subtitle...
rulezadded on the 2010-03-03 01:26:01 by pan pan
lovin the tune :)
rulezadded on the 2010-04-06 20:44:00 by moqui moqui
Brilliant & keeps coming back to mind over the years - wonder if it's one of the inspirations for http://prezi.com
rulezadded on the 2010-06-25 11:45:26 by seism seism
still like to rewatch it. nice one.
rulezadded on the 2010-06-25 12:22:04 by scicco scicco
masagin
rulezadded on the 2010-06-25 14:29:12 by whynot2000 whynot2000
Rockt...hart! :D
rulezadded on the 2010-06-25 14:43:44 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
Cool! :) Same engine as Masagin?
rulezadded on the 2010-08-02 21:35:43 by baah baah
Quote:
are being polygonized

I expected it to be splines, but maybe not possible in realtime?

And well, Masagin same engine as...? and not the other way.
added on the 2010-08-03 16:53:37 by baah baah
I"m sad I don't understand German, because I fill I miss a lot.

Even without understanding, it's really cool.
rulezadded on the 2010-08-18 14:13:31 by Zavie Zavie
schlechtes wetter draußen.. die leute sind schlecht gelaunt.. verstehe.
rulezadded on the 2010-08-26 19:06:08 by mad mad
as a typography fan this is pretty pr0n to me, one of my favorite demos ever
rulezadded on the 2010-08-28 00:40:41 by noby noby
Mit der Ewigkeit schmerzt man nicht.
added on the 2011-03-14 02:01:48 by Exin Exin
funny that i never gave this a comment allthough it is one of the most touching demos i ever experienced.
of course that has to do with me being german and able to connect to the lyrics somehow, i can understand that for others its just a bunch of text with a well done but not ground-breaking single effect.
it also makes me think of the first time ever i took magic mushrooms (but the corporate logos werent there!), hehe.
the music is also brilliant, i couldnt think of anything more fitting.

in the end i like masagin better (because theres more effects and diversion) but this production is paniq in its (or his?) purest form.
such a shame he stopped being active in the demo bizniz, this prod shows theres a _lot_ of unexplored grounds when sceners start to think outside of the common (and it also shows that there is a reason why many outstanding artists are doing drugs ;).
rulezadded on the 2011-03-17 03:11:42 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Excellent!
rulezadded on the 2012-01-25 21:50:58 by Frequent Frequent
Now that my German has improved (and that I've seen the youtube version with subtitles!), I can definitely thumb it up. I love it!
rulezadded on the 2012-02-18 14:09:47 by LLB LLB
oh yes
rulezadded on the 2012-08-16 11:19:24 by provod provod
great concept very well orchestrated, so scenepoetry-demo can be good!
rulezadded on the 2013-07-26 14:19:02 by rez rez
oft gesehen, nie daumen gegeben. nun aber.
rulezadded on the 2013-08-09 20:44:41 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
just wonderfull!
rulezadded on the 2014-03-06 20:58:34 by evills evills
Great demo, love it! But in the end, I agree with wysiwtf in that I love masagin even more because it has more variety. Though comparing a lyrics demo with an "normal" invitation demo is probably unfair...
added on the 2014-08-23 15:10:12 by Kylearan Kylearan
This is not the coolest kinetic typography ever (it is a little too monotonous for that). However, this is definitely cool. I could not connect to the lyrics, but the build up at the end is nice, even though the choice of icons is slightly hit and miss.
rulezadded on the 2014-12-04 19:09:28 by introspec introspec

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