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Suicide Barbie by The Black Lotus [web]
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screenshot added by Hatikvah on 2007-04-09 19:58:14
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release date : april 2007
release party : Breakpoint 2007
compo : wild demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 262
  • is ok 39
  • sucks 27
popularity : 9%
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  • rulez 0.72
  • cdcs 2
alltime top: #42
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Excellent!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 19:58:30 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Funny one.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 19:59:26 by Cj Cj
come on magic ... black screen shot + download link points to the avi, not the binary ...

better do nothing than that you glop whore !
Awesome stuff! I only regret it is not for Amiga :) Anyway, cool!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:02:55 by Factor6 Factor6
Hooters hooters
*Waiting for the executabel*
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:03:39 by mSW mSW
the best BP-prod beside fr41 ...
sound/design/direction are awesome
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:04:53 by ck ck
i fucking hate Veronica Maggio! i really hate her. but you make her voice fit the demo so well.. btw do you got rights to use the sample? or is it timbaland stylee ripping? anyway, best demo in quite some while, on any platform. and especially cool that it is on the psp!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:05:26 by bzz bzz
Simply great!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:06:58 by masterm masterm
Amazing!!! Will you supply an executable?
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:07:14 by AMB AMB
great idea, great composition... tbl rocx on every damn platform!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:08:17 by vigo vigo
Guardian: screenshot was put up by stefan
added on the 2007-04-09 20:08:50 by magic magic
Original PNG was corrupted. New one is soon up.
added on the 2007-04-09 20:10:50 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
yep great stuff
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:11:33 by keito keito
PSP demo! From TBL! Yeha! :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:12:16 by Fzool Fzool
:R:O:C:K:S:
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:13:17 by keith303 keith303
excellent art direction, although it doesn't push the hardware
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:13:22 by earx earx
pretty cool
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:14:16 by p01 p01
hell yeah!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:16:46 by parcelshit parcelshit
Great demo. Bad platform ;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:18:25 by xernobyl xernobyl
Great demo. Great platform ;)
kick ass!!!!!
perfect stuff for a party
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:21:10 by EviL EviL
Hehe, this should be on PC :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:21:32 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
magic: i don't care i'm just frustrated i don't have the binary in my hands :D
guardian: well, i think most of us dont have a psp to see the binary work so an .avi is the next best thing. however, for the lucky ones who have a psp i can imagine the frustration.. :) here is my thumo for TBL btw.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:25:05 by magic magic
Guns, girls, beer; everything a young man desires nicely packaged together.

Great soundtrack too, even if the vocals are ripped.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:28:34 by Sverker Sverker
Then I'm a lucky one. Really want to add this one to my psp scene collection.

PS. both links given won't work directly
added on the 2007-04-09 20:28:44 by mSW mSW
I have 2 of them ;)

From what i remember it's just a shitload of modelling without any code but i'll have to check it on the real machine to be sure.
added on the 2007-04-09 20:29:41 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
ehm, binaries please.

Don't add shit to pouët without binaries, it's moronic.
added on the 2007-04-09 20:31:50 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
Aleen: I think you are moron.
added on the 2007-04-09 20:37:34 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Some great direction and graphics here. Nice music too.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:40:37 by teel teel
i watched it live, rocked. but now the links dont works. anyway, good prod for me!
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:44:12 by NuKem NuKem
executable! :(
added on the 2007-04-09 20:45:36 by sang-soo sang-soo
and of course pros for the platform!
added on the 2007-04-09 20:45:38 by NuKem NuKem
Quote:
Don't add shit to pouët without binaries, it's moronic.


word.
added on the 2007-04-09 20:48:03 by keops keops
Have to buy a PSP
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 20:54:19 by Mensch Mensch
link :(
so cute :D
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 21:05:17 by slack slack
Binaries goddamnit
added on the 2007-04-09 21:05:22 by pyksy pyksy
it has nice and stylish parts, I can see some psyop on there :) tho, as someone said, it doesn't make me feel that the demo is pushing the hardware. Is that all what the PSP can do? :(
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 21:11:31 by mrdoob mrdoob
Was great... very very nice to watch :) Very good work
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 21:20:34 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
video link doesn't work....

error 550, no such file or dir.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 21:30:00 by knoeki 🍼 knoeki 🍼
Where's the downlooooooooooaaaaaaaaaad?!

It rocked pretty much on the bigscreen, but man, everybody's just thirsting for the binary release.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 21:34:51 by cavey cavey
Good stuff. Liked it.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 21:35:21 by Shockwave Shockwave
You can download it if you replace the ftp.unter.... by a ftp3.unter....
Shameless vote catcher...but it works for me.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 22:03:35 by blueflame blueflame
stylish
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 22:05:23 by prm prm
stylish and fresh.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 22:11:28 by stonda stonda
Great design & direction & sound, as usual with TBL prods :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 22:13:11 by tbl tbl
Great stuff. TBL always rocks whatever they do.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 22:32:53 by DiamonDie DiamonDie
Love it. Louie500 does it again.
no doubt this was created to win, but it's more of a slideshow than a demo. :)
added on the 2007-04-09 22:37:55 by gloom gloom
great
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 22:50:09 by wie8 wie8
great design and direction? exactly where?..
it's loud, bright and babe-o-licious, I give it that. but it's not a powerhouse of cinematography, that's for sure...
added on the 2007-04-09 22:50:45 by bhead bhead
really great demo!

Can't wait to see it on my PSP.

ah and one more thing. I knew all the time that Debevec's building.hdr HDRI cube map has the best lighting properties, hard to recreate using homebrew photography techniques. But i think you should credit Debevec in this prod. Just because it is really good.
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 23:35:53 by bonzaj bonzaj
bonzaj : that's rich coming from you ;)
Stylish as always from TBL!

I wonder how this videocap is done - I mean it's clear that it is not recorded of a real PSP running the demo, and there are to my knowledge no PSP emulators for PC... Is it possible to capture the framebuffer from a PSP and write it to the memcard frame by frame?
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 23:41:51 by Sdw Sdw
Crowdpleasing bastards ;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-09 23:48:03 by dixan dixan
As you see - yes :) Or run the demo under PC before porting to PSP and render frames :) blackmagic
added on the 2007-04-09 23:53:02 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Loved it - the music was what made me thumb this one up.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 00:01:24 by johnb johnb
Incredible design and mildly arousing!! Those women were hot! It's a shame they died.

Now it's time for TBL to stop winning second rate competitions and come compete the big leagues!
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 00:04:28 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
not bad. but babes+beer...such a cheat vote tactic
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 00:07:22 by button button
really really good!
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 01:28:42 by shadez shadez
absolutely awesome :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 01:32:08 by kusma kusma
sdw: psplink & tools, ask tyranid...
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 01:40:01 by comankh comankh
where the fuck is the executable?
added on the 2007-04-10 01:40:21 by elkmoose elkmoose
Quote:
I wonder how this videocap is done - I mean it's clear that it is not recorded of a real PSP running the demo, and there are to my knowledge no PSP emulators for PC... Is it possible to capture the framebuffer from a PSP and write it to the memcard frame by frame?

Actually, there are apps for PSP that stays resident while running another program and writes the frames to the memorystick, not unlike kkapture.

But I don't know if this is the method they used for this demo or they simply wrote their own framedumper.

Either way, the memory stick is helpful in this aspect.
added on the 2007-04-10 01:41:16 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
The frames were dumped using a custom frame writer and written to host: using the psplink usb-driver. After that VirtualDub was used to encode it into XviD.

Oh, and give the guys a moment to catch their breath, unpack and sleep some and binaries will come. :)
added on the 2007-04-10 02:09:32 by chip chip
great demo, made my day!
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 04:01:50 by Phenomenon Phenomenon
Guns, tits, alcohol. Mucho macho cheapness, which draws this one down somehow. However, as primitive the spirit, as funky the style...
added on the 2007-04-10 05:07:17 by sire sire
good <3 there is some irony also .. or what i detected ;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 07:40:55 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Evil :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 07:41:52 by Manwe Manwe
First rate kitsch :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 08:24:43 by break break
its cheap and its static, but it has fun ideas and is extremely stylish so it rulez alot
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 08:49:44 by hollowman hollowman
excellent
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 09:18:44 by minz minz
You sell-outs! Bloody well done! :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 09:22:33 by okkie okkie
greatest TBL thingie since Jizz and Stash!
i like the part where the last barbie breaks out of her world and is saved! that's so fucking heartmelting! ;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 10:07:31 by toxie toxie
Nice one in a very strong wild compo at BP.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 10:23:35 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
Quote:
Don't add shit to pouët without binaries, it's moronic.


Don't try to be more catholic than the pope. :) We can always add additional download links to a prod.

Quote:
i like the part where the last barbie breaks out of her world and is saved! that's so fucking heartmelting! ;)


She's not saved. She jumps to her death. (without a parachute and all...) ;)

Anyway, yes, it's too static, many details missing (most apparent: the mirror that won't mirror), the awkward walking animations could be less awkward, etc. pp.

Nonetheless, it's fun and clever and has that certain rulez-factor.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 10:55:00 by tomaes tomaes
I really like this one : my favorite demo at BP
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 11:09:29 by nytrik nytrik
Quote:
We can always add additional download links to a prod.

Not without bugging the mods about it, adding a prod without binaries is nothing but glöpwhoring.

"Here's a demo you can't download, lol"
added on the 2007-04-10 11:38:29 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
Nice idea & direction... :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 12:30:31 by remageFrs remageFrs
o// yet another TBL masterpiece \\o

i've put it on a youtube-like service for those who want to share and show it easily : TBL for the masses!
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 12:33:23 by Zest Zest
very, very, very stylish. my fave from bp07.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 13:27:07 by teo teo
Quote:
"Here's a demo you can't download, lol"


The video is present though, and for the vast majority of people it's more relevant than the binary.
very stylish and perfect direction. it's a louie500 demo and i like it. everything fits perfectly.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 13:28:58 by scicco scicco
Second best demo at the party
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 14:10:20 by sasq sasq
tits, beer and guns..
whatever happened to dragons?
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 14:12:19 by psenough psenough
Finally there's a barbie even boys want to play with.

Zest: Baha, great - they've blocked it for underage people. :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 14:23:11 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
Madenmann : the more it's 'censored' the more it's appealing ;)

btw that's the advantage of dailymotion compared to youtube, they may 'flag' the video but they don't remove it.
added on the 2007-04-10 16:23:05 by Zest Zest
damn nice
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 16:24:51 by neuralnet neuralnet
Nice design.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 17:00:56 by bodo^rab bodo^rab
it had guns, girls and beer. too bad it was missing explosions. Then it would've been the perfect man-demo.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 17:05:38 by uncle-x uncle-x
tbl did something i thought impossible - they made the psp look good ;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 17:22:37 by bfx bfx
:-I
added on the 2007-04-10 17:38:32 by thec thec
just great! love it.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 17:41:30 by hunta hunta
Good execution, but I can't help wanting another Amiga release instead..
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 18:39:10 by evil evil
I agree with aleen on the principle.

Oh and yeah, I just loved Louie's face after the compo - "I know, we're sick. Proud of it too!"
added on the 2007-04-10 19:03:30 by Gargaj Gargaj
btw a subsidiary question : why is there a transformers logo ? are the TBL guys working on a transformers game for the PSP ? :]
added on the 2007-04-10 20:04:44 by Zest Zest
zest: can i have some of your stuff you are smoking? coz you seem to be high ;) ... very good stuff? weed, crack?
added on the 2007-04-10 20:12:53 by uns3en_ uns3en_
zest, seems like you need to find out more about TBL.
added on the 2007-04-10 20:14:34 by _-_-__ _-_-__
I love the lighting of the scene in the screenshot...
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 20:42:27 by friol friol
during the compo i had to work, i just occasionally looked aside at the organizer-area-screen. but when i saw the "suicide barbie" logo i could not continue to work. this whole thing is wunderfully sick.

and it is well executed on PSP, it would have ranked high in the PC-compo, too.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 20:46:05 by chaos chaos
Sweet.
Funny references to will-it-blend and to Super Mario bros bullets :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 20:53:11 by bdk bdk
well i saw this despite the fact being busy and/or drunk, i must have missed that this one is actually for PSP. god damnit this rules!
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 21:03:37 by red red
Great 3d models, clean artstyle.
A nice amount of humor as well; the Bullet Bills especially made me laugh :)
The animations could have been better, which (despite being deliberately awkward probably,) seemed a bit odd at times.

I reckon that it's the worthy winner of a great compo and finally a reason to brush my PSP's dust off (once the binaries are released)!
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 21:26:34 by Blockbuster Blockbuster
uh, never really noticed the Decepticon logo in previous TBL demos till now ^^;
added on the 2007-04-10 22:20:55 by Zest Zest
great entertainment.
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 22:52:54 by fiver2^fB fiver2^fB
beautifully!
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 23:16:44 by FOSTER FOSTER
And I would love to hear more of the endpart-music.
added on the 2007-04-10 23:23:47 by sasq sasq
Quote:
The video is present though, and for the vast majority of people it's more relevant than the binary.

If anything, that is the most sad thing about console/handheld releases. Nobody cares to get at the real thing.

Anyway, I still cannot shake the idea that this is anything but a TBL release. Louie did art direction and Rubber apparently wrote a scroller. Nobody credited MFX and/or Kewlers for Track One because of the soundtrack either, now did they.
added on the 2007-04-10 23:42:33 by Shifter Shifter
Beautiful pink party world shows its rear side ;D
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 00:26:35 by T$ T$
Quote:

Nobody cares to get at the real thing.


Actually i do & i'm waiting for it, somehow i have the funny feeling that the real deal doesn't run as smooth and as fast on the real machine.

So cncd & sonik clique were involved.
added on the 2007-04-11 00:36:10 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Really nice, really-really-really nice!!
That soundtrack remix was a true killer track! The credits/end part music was damn fine as well!
Nice platform, excellent demo!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 01:07:03 by ekoli ekoli
shifter:
Yeah recruiting people sucks! esp while keeping/raise the focus and quality.
added on the 2007-04-11 03:44:47 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
not to be anal, but yeah, cncd and sonik weren't mentioned anywhere in the demo, were they? so don't add them even if members/ex-members were involved.

thumb+comments will come later. :)
added on the 2007-04-11 03:47:30 by phoenix phoenix
Nice, pity I don't have a PSP to watch it properly
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 04:34:04 by shash shash
phoenix: you mished the fullscreen scrolling logos in the beginning ehh.
added on the 2007-04-11 04:35:22 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Anal, what do you make of this ?

BB Image
added on the 2007-04-11 04:38:52 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
maybe they're secret greets?-)
added on the 2007-04-11 07:24:11 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Liked it alot ... really nice idea and style ...
Iam really hot to see forthcoming stuff from you guys !
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 08:37:50 by _H2o_ _H2o_
hot stuff... great soundtrack
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 10:01:41 by starbuck starbuck
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 10:06:31 by Buckethead Buckethead
Rocks!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 10:26:37 by rp^frstl rp^frstl
great stuff! design, music, everything. professional.
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 10:37:52 by nula nula
Quote:
Nobody cares to get at the real thing.

I do.

Binaries plz!
added on the 2007-04-11 10:42:56 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
No psp, but the video rules!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 10:48:49 by psonice psonice
binaries please!
added on the 2007-04-11 11:19:32 by v3nom v3nom
Duh, youtube has flagged this as "explicit content".
added on the 2007-04-11 11:59:36 by sasq sasq
annoying demo scene-fantasies, not even funny. pressed esc after half of the show, sorry.
added on the 2007-04-11 12:10:59 by a-move a-move
Yes! Binary I must have. I'm flashing my PSP just to watch this (and ofcourse play eh.. 'homebrew' ! :D)
added on the 2007-04-11 12:20:25 by okkie okkie
however many people will slag it down because they can obviously come up with even better stuff but will probably never show it - this one is really well executed, props to louie for doing a great job on the art direction again.
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 12:23:47 by dalezr dalezr
very nice concept. It lifts from the lotus releases of the recent years.
Additionally it's funny 'cause it speaks the truth :)
But somehow during the show I had the impression that the song went a bit repetitive.
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 12:40:10 by d0DgE d0DgE
absolute kewl
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 12:54:03 by pasy pasy
O_o--b
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 13:05:52 by aha aha
i like this very much !
very cute prod :)
and great sound !!!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 13:48:09 by sekohisa sekohisa
Superb!! Apa!!!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 14:54:02 by chromag chromag
Real good production.... perfectly polished, funny, consistent, not technically extremely impressive but the feeling is more important.
When I watched at BP! I know they will be first ! (damn !)

Was cool to speak with Rej, EriQue and Chip (who promised something amazing for Assembly 07, beers helped !, I won't tell more ;-) )

Good job guys ! Show us what the PSP is able !
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 16:38:01 by Shazz^TRSi^MJJ Shazz^TRSi^MJJ
Something about this prod which resonates with a fragment of me who wants to GIVE SOME POWERFUCKINGS TO ALL THE RUDE GIRLS IN MY LIFE!!

((=== chilldown............

Very chicy demo, and a blushy-lipsticky remix of Maggio's Dumpa Mig. Majestic DJing, Elusive!! Suddenly, I learnt to pronounce Swedish! ^_^

For those who are hot and horny for where the song came from, Link me, beautiful. Weird video that you will want to watch at least twice...



Tog tåget ner, du skulle dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom telefon...

Varför ska man tänka på
någon annan än sig själv?
Ego...


btw: If anyone knows Swedish, tell us what the song means, ok? =[~_^]=
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 17:21:24 by Momo Vampire Momo Vampire
Well, as long as we're on the subject of source material...

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=581929
added on the 2007-04-11 17:36:43 by ALecs ALecs
Hehe great stuff
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 17:38:55 by dairos dairos
Insanely cool production and fantastic direction, but the blatant use of source material without crediting leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
added on the 2007-04-11 17:49:12 by Preacher Preacher
i agree with preacher but really this wouldn't be the first nor the last time o thumb up vajello
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 17:57:27 by waffle waffle
I LOVE it!!!!! :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 19:43:51 by jESSiKA jESSiKA
Where are the binaries?
added on the 2007-04-11 19:54:33 by Szczupaq Szczupaq
jESSiKA: it's exploitation of female sexuality...doesnt that bother you!? :D
added on the 2007-04-11 19:57:43 by button button
since im a such a nice guy
here is a translation of the lyrics
a bit rough maybe, but you understand the context i guess..

Took the train down, you were gonna dump me.
Better on place then through the phone.

Why should i think about anyone but myself?
Ego..

added on the 2007-04-11 20:08:02 by bzz bzz
well, there's no nfo, maybe they planed to mention the material somewhere or now will :)
Tasty!
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 22:39:17 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
Nice and strange... but yeah nothing unexpected for a PSP.
rulez added on the 2007-04-11 23:22:16 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Quote:
jESSiKA: it's exploitation of female sexuality...doesnt that bother you!? :D


Jessika is the scene's number 1 attention whore, so I would expect the answer is NO! :)
demo is boring after 3-4 times of watching. sound is NOT - could someone pass me the link to the audio? many thanks ;)

all in all - nice demo, wrong compo :)
added on the 2007-04-12 00:15:06 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
heh wtf :p
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 01:56:52 by morten morten
very funny show! sexy music!
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 07:25:26 by zeebr zeebr
Commodore - I don't feel it is exploitation.. I thought it was hot!!

Shanethewolf - You don't even know me, therefore, your comment was unacceptable. Excuse me for watching something and enjoying it.
added on the 2007-04-12 11:41:31 by jESSiKA jESSiKA
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 11:51:32 by Quarryman Quarryman
Make with the fucking binaries, you faggots! My PSP is dying to play this!
added on the 2007-04-12 11:55:37 by okkie okkie
of course Roberto Roseano should have been credited but the title is already a direct credit hint ;)
added on the 2007-04-12 13:16:04 by Zest Zest
and the remix of the original (and sucky) Veronica Maggio tune is oustanding :)
added on the 2007-04-12 13:18:12 by Zest Zest
come on, without a binary i'm forced to think this isn't a PSP demo at all, but just some 3dsmax animation or something, rendered to make it look like it comes from a PSP.

i want to change my thumbs up in a thumbs down!
added on the 2007-04-12 13:25:33 by cavey cavey
binaries plz.
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 14:08:09 by blasty blasty
Just waiting for bin here too :)
added on the 2007-04-12 14:27:11 by JosSs JosSs
Great stuff. The explosions could do with a bit of work mind.
added on the 2007-04-12 14:28:13 by psonice psonice
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piggie overall.
I tried to refuse to watch the video version but since there are still no binaries and I missed it at BP I just couldn't resists any longer. I totally hate the music in this one, almost ruins the whole demo for me, the graphics on the other hand are totally cool, the usual Louie quality. I will give my final rating once I saw it on the real hardware. :)
added on the 2007-04-12 17:56:47 by StingRay StingRay
Considering the music is "more or less" some ripped commercial stuff, no thumb from me.

It's not like demoscene lacks talented musicians nowadays...
added on the 2007-04-12 18:01:15 by keops keops
Jessika: I know you very well, but you just don't remember me. I'm just one of the many hearts you have broken!
tbl meets sonik clique!
sweet.
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 18:12:56 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
Good
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 18:49:43 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Two things I would have liked you to tell us:
- Roberto Roseano is uncredited.
- The music is uncredited.
Just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

Smash Designs did the same with pictures by H.R. Giger.

Technically, it looked amazingly fine, but was this even rendered on the PSP? Looks like a PC-render to me, does it even run that well on real hardware? (this question is not the reason for my thumbdown).
sucks added on the 2007-04-12 19:57:16 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
Graga: How would you know those are uncredited when theres no official release yet? Just Magic adding the production with a videolink from the compo.

The song is so known in sweden it really doesnt need "credit", if someone took the song from "Bad" by Michael Jackson and made a DnB with it, would you demand credit? Still. Theres no official release, maybe theres big fat credit-alert for people who cant figure out things themselves.

Somehow i think the title of this production means they never really tried to hide where the idea came from.

And about theres no binaries and wheter it runs on PSP, why don't you guys just ask the BP orga team? Maybe its all bullocks but if so its fucking cool winning Breakpoint with a prerendered animation.
added on the 2007-04-12 20:10:43 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
stefan: last time I checked not all sceners live in sweden
added on the 2007-04-12 20:19:19 by p01 p01
actually the credits should go before this was voted at the party. when it's already ranked first, it is too late before the wiseguys google its name.

oh don't ever mind, party votes suck anyway..
p01: Only the cool ones
added on the 2007-04-12 20:26:48 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Stefan, sure the song is well known in SWEDEN, but this was in germany with an international audience.
If they had used a well known international hit we would have been like "ok, nice choice of music, but hey, why don't make something original" - now we actually said something like: "wow, nice music, wish we could get similar vocals for our stuff", as we took the originality for granted (as it would probably be both rule breaking and illegal otherwise).
Add the copyright issues and an aggressive music industry - I don't think we would like 'music piracy' in the scene.
And about adding credits later - well, wasn't credited at the bigscreen...
And would you consider that obscure barbie suicide page common knowledge too and therefore not needing credits? I don't consider this part much of an issue, that's just inspiration and maybe showing some lack of creativity ;)
(could have been cool with the curry wurst machine instead of the garlic press though ;)

Otherwise nice demo with usual great direction and graphics from louie, but this music thing is crossing the line.

sucks added on the 2007-04-12 20:33:48 by Psycho Psycho
Timbaland.
sucks added on the 2007-04-12 21:07:36 by noid noid
sweeeeeeeeeeeet! :D
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 21:07:43 by prophet prophet
psycholns:
Iam just saying that people who only can enjoy a true original production would have no problems finding how un-original the different parts in this demo would be. Just ask any swede where the lyrics are from and youll have the answer, everybody on #breakpoint knew, nobody cared since it was brilliant execution.

For most of us originality is only a plus, nothing we ever would take for granted, since it would be quite.. Original on the demoscene.

And yeah, i think the demoscene will be sued from the use of theese vocals. We will cease to exist. JSYK.
added on the 2007-04-12 21:18:24 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Looks good, but too much ripped ideas or/and content. Thumbs down
sucks added on the 2007-04-12 21:19:16 by Zplex Zplex
håhåhåhåå :D
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 21:23:48 by loaderror loaderror
rulez added on the 2007-04-12 21:45:41 by dipswitch dipswitch
still no binaries
sucks added on the 2007-04-12 21:57:58 by elkmoose elkmoose
binaries?
added on the 2007-04-12 22:50:26 by v3nom v3nom
Screw the binaries - where's the endtune? It's even better than the main one. I hope it gets released, too.
added on the 2007-04-12 22:59:10 by ALecs ALecs
I enjoy it but I don't want to, I want shitfaced clowns to win!

I know the compo voting is over, I still want them to win! I liked their demo more! No I didn't this is better no it's not yes it is no it's not AAAAAAAAAAUGH
Fitting design, smooth execution, damn catchy tune.
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 00:58:40 by Lorkki Lorkki
MWAAAHAHAHAHAHHH MWAAHAHAHH MWAHAHAHHH HOW WONDERFULLY THEY CAPTURED THE STYLE!!!

HILARIOUS!!!
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 01:40:02 by eye eye
and fuckings to TMB for thumbing that down just because binaries are not quite there yet.
added on the 2007-04-13 01:41:14 by eye eye
Tog tåget ner, du skulle dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom telefon
Jag visste inte vad som väntade
Första semestern på fyra år
Som jag förstod var vi förälskade
Du sa att ingen vart så bra som jag
Vi talade om allt och älskade
Jag låna pengar och kom till din stad

Varför ska man tänka på
någon annan än sig själv?
Ego...

Na na na na
Du skulle dumpa mig, dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom telefon
Na na na na
Du skulle dumpa mig, dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom telefo-o-on

Gick till ditt jobb, jag skulle hämta dig
Du bad mig vänta på dig utanför
Redan då förstod jag att nånting förändrades
Din blick var annorlunda än jag kom ihåg
Jag fråga vad det var du svarade
Det fanns en på ditt jobb du tyckte bättre om
Så du bad mig komma hit för att få dumpa mig
Du sa: "Bättre på plats än genom telefon"

Varför ska man tänka på
någon annan än sig själv?
Ego...

Na na na na
Du skulle dumpa mig, dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom telefon
Na na na na
Du skulle dumpa mig, dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom telefo-o-on

Ego... Ego...
Na na na na
Du skulle
Bättre på plats än genom telefo-o-on

Na na na na
Du skulle dumpa mig, dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom telefon, ååh, dumpa mig
Na na na na
Du skulle dumpa mig, åh, dumpa mig
Bättre på plats än genom

Mm, du skulle dumpa mig
Ego... Ego...
Ego... Ego...
Ego...

rulez added on the 2007-04-13 02:24:58 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
give us the soundtrack! pleeeeease
added on the 2007-04-13 05:12:49 by zeebr zeebr
oh and yeah, i love it how the last barbie keeps on falling and all of a sudden when she leaves the screen, the music turns all sad.
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 08:50:29 by Gargaj Gargaj
the first TBL-prod in years i really liked. brilliant art-direction and modeling.

calling this demo being not creative (because of mrs. maggio and mr. roseano) seems very odd to me. theres much difference between a citation, a reference, a remix, a refinement and a plain ripp-off.

(had to chuckle when i saw the girlie-style decorated guns)
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 09:19:31 by degauss degauss
Quote:
theres much difference between a citation, a reference, a remix, a refinement and a plain ripp-off.

And they pretty much crossed from left to right. This is so not cool.
added on the 2007-04-13 09:59:18 by Shifter Shifter
Quote:
Just ask any swede where the lyrics are from and youll have the answer, everybody on #breakpoint knew, nobody cared since it was brilliant execution.


No, nobody cared cause it was sunday, no more deadlines, so last day to get drunk .. no one thought of TBL ripping stuff / getting inspiration without telling everyone at the same time .. at least, thats what i thought..

Besides that .. loved the demo, new and fresh style, i dont care that much for ripping or inspiration credits .. i liked it for what it was.
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 10:16:51 by dwarf dwarf
i agree in that one point: TBL should have told where the stuff is from...
added on the 2007-04-13 11:41:06 by degauss degauss
nice done, but lacking any originality.
being "inspired" (more: copying the whole idea) of Veronica Maggio - Dumpa Mig and the pictures of Roberto Roseano without crediting them doesn't make it better.
I got to know the original pics and sound first through pouet.net after the release.
You can do better than recycling, make up some own concepts, guys!
sucks added on the 2007-04-13 11:43:27 by scythoior scythoior
This was pretty funky, almost wish i had a PSP to play it on!
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 12:04:01 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
i second scythoior, too much ripping.
sucks added on the 2007-04-13 13:02:41 by gg|rhg gg|rhg
As we didn't find a different way to contact them:

Members of TBL (especially the musician or whoever feels responsible for the production at whole): Please contact the BP organizers urgently at breakpoint07@untergrund.net or ircnet #breakpoint. We need to talk about the possible copyright infringement of the soundtrack, so we can decide whether we have to disqualify and nuke the release.
added on the 2007-04-13 13:03:30 by scamp scamp
i wanna change my thumb...
added on the 2007-04-13 13:09:16 by prm prm
Quote:

oh and yeah, i love it how the last barbie keeps on falling and all of a sudden when she leaves the screen, the music turns all sad.


Emo... Emo...
Emo... Emo...
Emo...

Don't forget to ask'em about the binary :D
added on the 2007-04-13 13:10:47 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
lack of originality
sucks added on the 2007-04-13 13:18:20 by xeNusion xeNusion
brilhant execution.
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 14:48:24 by Jae686 Jae686
Among thousands of dark, spacy alpha-layered (mfx, kewlers etc) demos with mostly generated content you cant say this lacks originality.
added on the 2007-04-13 17:08:40 by sasq sasq
not legally covered song
ripped or lets say "reconstructed" visuals
if you substract this parts what is left?
exactly... nothing
added on the 2007-04-13 17:25:08 by xeNusion xeNusion
Quote:
ripped or lets say "reconstructed" visuals


How dumb are you? Do you thing all the modelling and animation work takes care of itself as long as you have a picture as a reference?
added on the 2007-04-13 17:54:19 by sasq sasq
i'm not sure you know who you're asking
I really love it. How couldn't I?
rulez added on the 2007-04-13 23:59:06 by Optimus Optimus
Music was a rip-off + it's highly annoying[!] and the boring animation. Only positive was to see those breaking barbies, but that was not enough.
sucks added on the 2007-04-14 00:04:35 by tripper tripper
Great stuff, great direction, great lighting, great slashing ;)
rulez added on the 2007-04-14 11:12:33 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
candy
rulez added on the 2007-04-14 14:41:21 by ISL ISL
rulez added on the 2007-04-14 17:48:52 by iks iks
Def a thup! - my mood is in the skies after seeing this!!
rulez added on the 2007-04-14 18:08:18 by Muerto Muerto
- and plz provide the binaries, got a PSP!!!
added on the 2007-04-14 18:13:25 by Muerto Muerto
gnagnagnagnaTELEFOOON
great!
rulez added on the 2007-04-14 18:59:50 by SilkCut SilkCut
Nice video. Not crazy about it though. :)
added on the 2007-04-14 19:39:32 by AntDude AntDude
Quote:
not legally covered song
ripped or lets say "reconstructed" visuals
if you substract this parts what is left?
exactly... nothing


I have to agree. I love this demo, but my opinion dropped when I saw the original pictures and heard the original music.

I won't take full credit away from Louie though because he clearly had a lot of input regards the modelling, colours and visual direction.

It's kinda like a movie based on a book. The original idea is someone else's, but the presentation is down to the directors/set designers/actors and so on.
Very good direction, even tho the theme seems really odd to me, this demo certainly does the magic.
added on the 2007-04-14 22:15:05 by shock__ shock__
very nice !!!!!!!!!
rulez added on the 2007-04-14 23:13:12 by med med
Quote:
It's kinda like a movie based on a book. The original idea is someone else's, but the presentation is down to the directors/set designers/actors and so on.


But how often do you see a good movie and then lower your opinion of it when you find out it was based on a book?
added on the 2007-04-15 14:06:47 by sasq sasq
nice prod...

look here for the binaries: http://mirror.support.nl/pub/tbl/psp/tbl-suicide_barbie.zip
rulez added on the 2007-04-15 18:29:27 by ddElite ddElite
Could someone actually run this? I've tried it on both of my psp's and it didn't work on either of them (1.5 and 3.10). Where do I have to copy the datadir to?
added on the 2007-04-15 18:34:49 by StingRay StingRay
doesn't seem to work here too..(yet)
added on the 2007-04-15 19:08:36 by v3nom v3nom
Quote:
But how often do you see a good movie and then lower your opinion of it when you find out it was based on a book?

What if they didn't ask the author of the book for permission?
Here is the way to run it:

Place the %__SCE__SuicideBarbie & __SCE__SuicideBarbie directories & content into PSP/GAME and the rest in data/demotest at the root of the memorystick (aka: ms0:data/demotest/back_01 ms0:data.demotest/head etc.).

It's as i thought the demo doesn't run at full framerate like in the video, also the sound have a lot of breakup.
added on the 2007-04-15 21:15:34 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
No luck with 3.10 OE-A'. Hangs after PliySattano Pornable screen.
added on the 2007-04-15 21:56:06 by pyksy pyksy
Thanks Hitch. :) At least I could see the loadingscreen now, after that it freezes. Gotta try on my 1.5 PSP now. :)
added on the 2007-04-15 22:08:25 by StingRay StingRay
you guys should soon come up with some explanation on the music...
this being simply a rip-off would go for a thumbdown, which is a shame as the demo was quite enjoyable...
added on the 2007-04-15 22:15:58 by FooLman FooLman
funny, a little less impressive on the PSP... :D And yes some slowdowns... and strange idea to use a wav...

but still the best PSP demo for sure !
afaik using huge samples is pretty normal behaviour for a tbl demo ;)
added on the 2007-04-15 22:20:06 by havoc havoc
Nevermind, got it working using PSPLink.
added on the 2007-04-15 22:28:09 by pyksy pyksy
Ok, works fine on 1.5. :) Some parts are a bit slow but the graphics are still impressive. Too bad the music ruins the demo for me. :)
added on the 2007-04-15 22:33:37 by StingRay StingRay
Quote:
Do you thing all the modelling and animation work takes care of itself as long as you have a picture as a reference?

Well, as long as you're wearing the Timbaland Reality Distortion Helmet, you might argue that the demo never broke into the houses of the respective artists being "inspiration" for this demo -stealing their protools and nonsense.

The realtime version is pretty terrible in terms of performance. Sounds like SFC shouldn't be just the moral winner of this compo.
added on the 2007-04-16 00:06:43 by Shifter Shifter
Performance might be affected depending of the quality of your memorycard. There are some cheap cards which just aren't able to give enough throughput. For me the demo is rolling almost smoothly from a SanDisk 2G card.

As for getting the demo to work... It obviously starts just fine under clean 1.5 firmware, but fails to work under these OE-type firmwares, unless executed from PSPLink.
added on the 2007-04-16 00:33:56 by Zer0-X Zer0-X
You do need a fast memorycard to watch this demo, since it is constantly streaming content (not only sound). If you can, try avoiding PSPLink, since it takes some CPU and doesn't guarantee enough throughput (you get this jerky sound).

This binary was tested only with 1.5 firmware... but, oh well, it's a party version.
added on the 2007-04-16 08:05:42 by ReJ ReJ
This looked good, but... wasn't the dstrukt rip enough for you guys?
sucks added on the 2007-04-16 12:00:44 by zomb zomb
k, so they borrowed some ideas.. nevertheless this demo rocks hard, it's damn cute :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 15:52:06 by Maali Maali
oh by the way.. i "fixed" the eboot to work on OE firmwares..

fixed binaries can be found from:
http://www.doomsday.fi/~dice/unofficial_suicide_barbie_fix.zip

no need for psplink.

LOL OMG NOOBZ =)
added on the 2007-04-16 15:52:15 by xwd xwd
strange idea to use a wav file indeed - especially one that's already been through mp3 (or similar) compression...

But hey - at least I have the endtune now. Yay!
added on the 2007-04-16 16:04:11 by ALecs ALecs
I don't care if they got ispiration from some photos and remixed music, I still think it's great. Exactly the TBL quality I was expecting.
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 16:46:51 by Maissi Maissi
From a viewer's perspective, this demo should get thousent thumbs up.

But from a coder's point a view... 100MB!? USING .WAV FOR MUSIC?! you DO know that PSP can decode AAC files directly from the ME subset CPU...

But since I'm a sucker for reflections (and red hair) I'm gonna thumb it up anyway...
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 22:05:49 by LiraNuna LiraNuna
Who cares they were inspired by some photos and music. There is still a long way between photos and a good demo. This one rocks.
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 22:11:54 by necronomic0 necronomic0
rocks indeed. and even more on the real hardware! perhaps more than most of the games yet released (atleast graphical wise)
rulez added on the 2007-04-16 23:45:55 by v3nom v3nom
The 3d work and graphics are great... But winning the compo with stolen ideas and ripoff music without giving any credit the originals is bad hmmkay?

Oh and...
BB Image
sucks added on the 2007-04-17 08:48:06 by kurli kurli
Would have been a really nice production without all that timbalandism.
Heh, when I watched this for the last time, I thought that at least the ball face effect thing isn't stolen.. but that's timbalanded as well? My respect for these people is going down fast..

Here's my thumb.
sucks added on the 2007-04-17 09:04:34 by Preacher Preacher
and all of a sudden it dawns on me..

TimBaLand.....

just livin' up to the name aye :D I still would not thumb this down, but they made quite a stinker here!
added on the 2007-04-17 09:08:36 by okkie okkie
Excuse me sir, where can I reclaim my thumb ? They be stealing my thumb up.
added on the 2007-04-17 09:30:04 by p01 p01
okkie > i already made the joke on the bbs, sorry, now i'll sue you and ask for money (or beer)
Well, I didn't go into your house and stole the joke from your computer, now did I!
added on the 2007-04-17 10:01:08 by okkie okkie
I loved the demo at Breakpoint. But what really spoils it for me is not even the stealing of ideas, but rather the fact that they are labelling it as their own by not giving credit to the people they borrowed the specific ideas from (and the resemblances can't be accidental really). And THAT is what I simply find lame.
sucks added on the 2007-04-17 10:04:58 by Axel Axel
What Axel said.
sucks added on the 2007-04-17 10:08:58 by Archmage Archmage
everything's been said
sucks added on the 2007-04-17 10:11:56 by hhhhhhh hhhhhhh
okkie > ok, let's call it joke sampling then
what the hell is wrong with you people. thumbing down this because it is influenced of several stuff... go thumb down deadringer, black maiden prods, etc. i think its really good that they made effects realtime. ok cheesy as it is, its still good and original imo
added on the 2007-04-17 10:25:58 by uns3en_ uns3en_
IMO, this is isn't just "influence" anymore
added on the 2007-04-17 10:43:52 by Axel Axel
i think this is just lame thumb down punishment. okay.. originality is nice, but ofcourse i like to see some effects done in realtime and this is cheesy cheese in nice package so its like ... " i gotta buy this cheese even if it tastes like other cheese, but just this package " so...
added on the 2007-04-17 10:54:52 by uns3en_ uns3en_
LOL , alright, fair enough :)
added on the 2007-04-17 10:56:00 by Axel Axel
I just think this is a Brie although it says "Camembert" on the label.
added on the 2007-04-17 10:58:05 by Axel Axel
this demo has the cheese but not the ham, so here's the piggie from me :)
added on the 2007-04-17 11:02:30 by havoc havoc
eheh...die Schweizer :)
in the end it all comes down to the cheese :D
added on the 2007-04-17 11:03:19 by d0DgE d0DgE
For all the things considered, a piggie.
added on the 2007-04-17 11:09:19 by Serpent Serpent
The idea-borrowing doesn't bother me much, but I still think it should have been shown as a video-recording of an actual PSP running it, not some perfect-framerate video.
Shouldn't this be a common-sense rule for the wild compo - entries should be recorded running on the real hardware. If the hardware doesn't have any video output (like handhelds) well then you put the thing on a table, run the demo and videotape it. It might not look as "clean" as a frame-by-frame capture, but it gives a much more correct view of how the prod runs.
added on the 2007-04-17 11:32:22 by Sdw Sdw
I thought it was about "Ray Barbie", the skateboarder. I'm very disappointed now :p

Strange, colorful, girlish, sexy and funny demo...
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 12:34:05 by Skate Skate
What Rainmaker and Axel said, really disappointed there...
sucks added on the 2007-04-17 14:34:35 by keops keops
Very BIG PROD ! Great and fun ! Nice TBL work !
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 14:46:49 by WoDK WoDK
What ShanetheTurtle and Axel said : I like the track in particular =), but it's still a remix (without permission btw), and an uncredited one. And I personnally care about what is original content or not.

But I can't thumb it down, since I think it's still a good prod, and I enjoyed watching it.
added on the 2007-04-17 16:14:58 by wullon wullon
hmm, it's hard to judge after such massive spoilers. there is no NFO file, and i'm really disappointed that all the inspirations still uncredited. but, anyway, i'm really enjoyed this prod and here is my thumb up.
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 17:16:02 by diver diver
Quote:
I still think it should have been shown as a video-recording of an actual PSP running it, not some perfect-framerate video.

Especially the case of this demo, I agree.

Can't thumb this up. I adored the music, but I guess I'd better moon over it on last.fm rather than here ;)
added on the 2007-04-17 17:26:42 by Shifter Shifter
sorry black maiden, didnt meant to offer you pandur. bad example... fuckings to uns3en_
added on the 2007-04-17 17:29:06 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Quote:
you put the thing on a table, run the demo and videotape it

I wonder how good will that end up looking like..
added on the 2007-04-17 17:29:26 by Gargaj Gargaj
Quote:
I wonder how good will that end up looking like..

With a good camera, it will look just fine.
added on the 2007-04-17 17:35:20 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
added on the 2007-04-17 17:42:24 by Mystra Mystra
ok finally the thumb goes down cause the ripping part which was way more extensive than I first thought.
sucks added on the 2007-04-17 18:01:12 by thec thec
rulez, despite the fact that klaus barbie is not in there...
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 18:06:52 by abductee abductee
kasparov didnt give credits to some random architect.
smash designs didnt give credits to the funfair or domino-day. still no one complained about ripping, and starstruck was hyped and given scene.org awards despite several ideas were borrowed somewhrere. dont be so hypocritical.
to me this is just a good crowdpleaser :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 18:15:20 by cp_ cp_
Regarding the face made of bubbles, then it seems they took a effect from a static image and made it realtime-ish, which is cool IMO. I don't think that should be taken as a negative. Hell, if everyone gave credits for effect inspirations in their demos, there would be a few more Gigabyte of text on Scene.org :P
Quote:
it seems they took a effect from a static image

It's not a static image, it's an ad.

http://www.vukster.com/cmine/displayimage.php?pos=-1
added on the 2007-04-17 19:41:03 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
Well, what can I say. I absolutely LOVE this production, it's fucking brilliant. But I just fail to see how hard it can be to add proper credits for source material used. Especially as this thing HAS an endscroller with credits in it. So, TBL please save the scene from this kind of late disappointment about your releases in the future.

Sigh.
added on the 2007-04-17 19:51:16 by scamp scamp
meh.. blackscreen on the unofficial fix binary. (3.03 OE). Guess i should figure out what that psplink is about.
added on the 2007-04-17 19:55:19 by sang-soo sang-soo
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added on the 2007-04-17 20:05:40 by p01 p01
Ripping or not - see it from the other side: I like that song so much and it sticks in a way in my head that I'd even consider buying the cd of that singer. :-)
Plus the comparison with Timbaland doesn't make too much sense in my opinon. TBL take from a commercial product and win a couple of bucks at breakpoint with a well done remix. Timbaland earns hundreds of thousands of bucks by ripping of a non comercial musician.
Then again, intellectual property is intellectual property...
I don't care. Jag älskar sverige. And this production.
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 23:02:05 by novel novel
The fix works fine on my 3.03 OE PSP.
The music is nice, the models are nice, and the design is pretty overall.
Too much inspiration was obviously taken from some sources, but I'm still thumbing it up.

I can't believe I didn't hear that it's Swedish before reading the comments. I must be losing my hearing.
rulez added on the 2007-04-17 23:08:32 by sprocket sprocket
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QUhLI0aMd0

Video shows how it runs on the PSP.
rulez added on the 2007-04-18 00:40:55 by NoIRC NoIRC
Right, FINALLY got this working. I've never been more frustrated by a delayed release, but patience finally won the day. I agree with Scamp that it's not hard to spread some credit, but I'm not particularly fired up by the 'appropriation' of extant source material. True, the use of commercially available music might weaken the moral foundations of the case against Timbaland and future copyrapists, but then we all know that the demoscene is a gathering of individuals, not an incorporation of ideological subscribers. Anyway, that's a discussion for the Bulletin Board.

The whole point of this demo, really, is that when you hold the PSP inches from your face with the brightness turned up, watching a demo that's better than anything you've previously seen on the platform (including all the shit games available for it), you're reminded WHY you spent all that money on it. You bought the PSP because it's a fairly sexy-looking portable media device with amazing battery life and a beautiful screen. Pretty, perfect, pink and purple shapes with beautiful lighting and nice, cheesy (and completely appropriate) music...this would sell the PSP to me if I didn't already have one. And while I'm only a lowly musician, I reckon that doing something aesthetically satisfying and impressive with a hardware platform, even if it's not at the cutting edge of artistic expression and originality, must be close to the heart of the scene ethos. So my thumb is for Suicide Barbie doing EXACTLY what it sets out to do - offer good looking images and pleasant-sounding audio on a computer. Hooray!

Oh, and as NoIRC exemplifies with his youtube vid, the framerate is completely bang-on with a 3.03 PSP - even from my new 'Sony' 4Gb memory stick (which is quite blatantly a fake, and much slower than my SanDisk card). So all those FPS detractiors, who were probably right to be suspicious considering it took two weeks for evidence of the REAL demo to appear, can be satisfied that what we saw at Breakpoint was just as it seemed.
rulez added on the 2007-04-18 04:04:49 by syphus syphus
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I wonder how good will that end up looking like..


Worse than a framedump ofcourse, just like... like you watched on the real thing (oh noes) :)
added on the 2007-04-18 07:18:43 by kurli kurli
geiler scheiss! :)
rulez added on the 2007-04-18 17:52:40 by madMixx madMixx
i want to give 10 more thumb downs for the filesize
added on the 2007-04-18 19:01:44 by elkmoose elkmoose
girlz!
rulez added on the 2007-04-18 19:50:34 by src src
phew. finally got it running too, i should have read the thread more closely about where to put the data files. (I just stuck BarbieData in the root, which should've been data/demotest). Runs smooth here too on 3.03 OE and a 2GB sony stick (cheap from hong kong, so I expect a fake too :).

So, about the demo. I don't mind them plucking ideas from other sources, I do agree those sources should have been credited. Even with those timbalandisms, it's still fairly original compared to many other demos. Bonus points for the only demo worth watching on psp.

rulez added on the 2007-04-18 19:52:33 by sang-soo sang-soo
Holy fucking crap, amazing looking demo. Even though the animation is limited, the simulated global illumination technique in some of the scenes is incredible looking, especially at that smooth framerate. Loved the circle-effect 3D face as well, it was a reasonable realtime approximation of a complex effect seen in a TV commercal, and the colors selected were great.

I don't understand the uproar about the music. OK, they did kind of a remix, but it seems like all they took from the original is some of the voice track. Their version sounds significantly better too, to the point that it just sounds like a completely different song.

Theme with naked and posed barbie dolls has been done several times before in the photography, big deal, are they supposed to credit every photographer that did that before them? (I know of at least few, hell I personally know one guy who did that kind of photos!)

It was a bit of a problem to make it work, the folder structure is not set up correctly in the archive (it's explained somewhere in this thread though) and it needs an unofficial fix again posted in this thread to make it work on OE firmware PSP.

Awesome demo, I just hope they release a compressed music version, 120MB is really a bit of an overkill, but 95MB of that is uncompressed music alone.

warp, this is the best PSP demo, but not the only one worth watching - check out Flower by Moppi production (it's a PC port, but still)
rulez added on the 2007-04-18 21:27:31 by marconelly marconelly
Also : the second track kicks ass, very nice "sugar"-dance song :).
added on the 2007-04-18 22:38:54 by wullon wullon
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added on the 2007-04-19 01:36:33 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
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STOLEN CONTENT!
sucks added on the 2007-04-19 02:48:38 by am-fm am-fm
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=581929 yo... maybe use your own ideas in the next prod and dont be a timbalamer...... Ripping, cheating and re-releasing at Breakpoint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oneeleven
added on the 2007-04-19 02:52:43 by am-fm am-fm
While watching this demo for the first time I thought: Wow! Nice style, fitting music, very polished and definitely the best PSP prod to date.
I was about to thumb it up right away but decided to wait for the binaries to see it on real hardware and now I'm very glad I waited.
Almost all the content is ripped, even the (simple but stylish) dot-head effect i liked the most. And the 105MB executable with streaming PCM music is a real joke, especially for a portable platform.

So piggie it is!
don`t kill these sexy plastic barbies!!!
rulez added on the 2007-04-19 13:23:24 by beton beton
Size of production was not a main area of focus for a party version. Compressed audio support (along with other fixes, like support for different firmwares, credits, etc) is done for final release. However official release is delayed, until we have new music (as requested by BP organizers).

PS: And yes, we _knew_ about ME support for Atrac3. But, plz, bare in mind, that production is done on a homebrew SDK - it definetly adds some complexity to some trivial problems :)
added on the 2007-04-19 13:56:56 by ReJ ReJ
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rulez added on the 2007-04-19 14:54:42 by jimmi jimmi
I can only believe what I'm reading because I know this is pouet.

If I model myself in 3D in a demo, have I ripped from myself? Or from God? Or from my parents? Suppose I use a picture for reference. Have I ripped from fucking Kodak?

Let's take a step back. It's the mid-90's and I run my hand-scanner over two images of models' faces then perform some graphicistic pixel-by-pixel wizardry on them to turn them into something suitable for a mid-demo still. I'm not going to credit the original photographer (EVEN if he was credited in the magazine I tore the page from) because, well, that would be fucking stupid in the context of the demo. Not to mention the fact that my art has become something distinct and separate by virtue of the new medium and the work I've done on it.

Just like modelling some barbie dolls.

Then I took 15-seconds of vocal samples TO INFLUENCE AN ENTIRELY NEW PIECE OF MUSIC. Lock up Grandmaster Flash and throw away the fucking key!

Jesus Christing fuck. If you want to take ART into the back yard and shoot it in the head, shoot yourself while you're at it.

This is not Timbaland. This is a demo.
added on the 2007-04-19 15:11:10 by syphus syphus
OMG THEY HAVEN'T CREDITED MATTEL !!!11

I liked it, very professionally made.
At least something different to watch than a nth abstract-cubes-meet-splines-in-full-glow-and-dof-glory.
rulez added on the 2007-04-19 17:23:00 by willbe willbe
About the size limit, the compo rules are very clear:
"* No size limit, get the maximum out of your chosen hardware!".
added on the 2007-04-19 18:15:39 by dixan dixan
everythings been said, for sure ripping is bad...
still, i simply like it :)
so heres my thumb up
rulez added on the 2007-04-19 18:31:50 by blz blz
Good work guys!
rulez added on the 2007-04-19 18:56:58 by gnilk gnilk
ReJ, please make an 'unofficial' final release that will have this same music that party version has, just have it compressed and bugfixed and whatnot.

There's plenty of people who just want to have cool music in the demo and don't care how many seconds was sampled from the source song, if it's more seconds than the rules of the sampling allow or not...

The way you worded your post with "final" and "official" releases, makes me hopeful this is something you already have in mind.
what marconelly said

this is a really stunning piece of software for my psp
rulez added on the 2007-04-20 02:01:42 by Kauto Kauto
syphus: FWIW, when I do the kind of pixel work you mention, I always put the name ( and eventually the URL ) of the original.

Suicide Barbie is Timbaland in that, that almost every scene is a carbon copy of non-scene productions without a single credit although there is plenty of room to give said credits in the end scroll instead of that usele^Wplaceholder text.

Also, all big parties reject entries that contain copyrighted materials unless the submitter provides some evidence that he/she obtained the permission to use them.
added on the 2007-04-20 03:43:53 by p01 p01
No. A slideshow containing carbon copies of each single photograph of mass-produced, commercially available Barbie dolls made by the relevant 'Suicide Barbie' photographer would be Timbaland. What we have here is a combination of influence, imitation, appropriation, technical aptitude, transcension of the original medium, art direction and presentation.

Suppose TBL model Mount Everest; something that's been photographed many times in the last century for 'non-scene productions' - by your reasoning this would be entirely invalid. Those previous photographs might have been sensitively and painstakingly shot over the last century by artistically-minded photographers, who spent a long time choosing their subject and awaiting the right lighting conditions etc. TBL may never have seen Mount Everest with their own eyes - indeed they might use these photographs as points of reference, by which they can envisage something that ALREADY EXISTS, which by virtue of its pervasion of our collective cultural psyche is essentially public domain. It's only because the Barbie Doll is such an easily-recognisable commodity that the original Suicide Barbie photographer was able to create a work with any cultural currency whatsoever. If he made some clay figurines and showed them appearing to commit suicide, his work would have only limited artistic and social resonance.

Aside from the whole issue of propriety where the referencing of source material is concerned, it has to be said that Suicide Barbie, the demo, does not exclusively contain 'carbon copies' - or at least carbon copies of the mises-en-scene, which is what I suspect people really mean. Enough directors have referenced Godard's dreadful Weekend long-shot with only a slight shift in medium, subject matter or other points of technicality to remind us that if an artistic domain is shared sensitively (ie with the use of proper attribution in credits, against whose absence I won't argue) then influence and cross-pollenation can exist fruitfully.

I've already used two tenuous analogies in this thread, and I'd think twice about using a third were it not for the fact that many people are drawing the Timbaland comparison, which already straddles some serious technical distinctions:) So please allow me to jump on the bandwagon:

IF TIMBALAND WAS INFLUENCED BY THE SUICIDE BARBIE PHOTOS, HE WOULD HAVE:
* Bought some Barbie dolls, a blender, a bizarrely shaped meat-grinder of some sort, some knives and assorted toy weapons
* Bought a camera
* Got one of his flunkies to arrange the - no, no, no...

Wrong, he would have just fucking lifted those photos off the web, opened Photoshop and then drawn some moustaches on the dolls to disguise them. Because THAT is effectively what he did to Tempest's tune - he laid a simplistic hip-hop beat and some Nellie Furtado vocals over it to disguise it slightly.

So to tease this analogy to breaking-point (no pun intended), let's imagine that TBL used the Timbaland mode of 'creativity' when making Suicide Barbie:

* Steal photographs
* Draw moustaches
* Code slideshow
* Release!

Now that's not what happened, is it?

By the way, I totally agree on all credits-related issues. It's one thing to forget on the day, but it's worrying that nobody from TBL has spoken up properly to clarify this. It'd be nice to know for sure what's what. Sorry for the long post.
added on the 2007-04-20 09:38:11 by syphus syphus
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gnagnagnagnaTELEFOOON
great!


gnagnagnagna = the lyrics :)

obviously it has something to do with a telephone ;)

Loved the demo - should not thumb down until it is proven that they did not have the rights to remix the music !
rulez added on the 2007-04-20 22:26:45 by response response
Yes I know. :D
I guess so because dolls have telephones
added on the 2007-04-21 10:43:53 by SilkCut SilkCut
Took the train down, you were gonna dump me
Better irl than through the phone
I didn't know what was waiting
The first holiday in four years
In which I understood we were in love
You said nobody had been as good as me
We talked about everything and made love
I lent money and came to your town

Why think about
anyone else but yourself?
Ego...

Na na na na
You were gonna dump me, dump me
Better irl than through the phone
Na na na na
You were gonna dump me, dump me
Better irl than through the pho-o-one

Went to your workplace, I was gonna pick you up
You asked me to wait for you outside
Already then did I realise something had changed
Your gaze was different from what I remembered
I asked what it was and you replied
There was someone at your job that you liked better
So you asked me to come here to dump you
You said "Better irl than through the phone"

Why think about
anyone else but yourself?
Ego...

Na na na na
You were gonna dump me, dump me
Better irl than through the phone
Na na na na
You were gonna dump me, dump me
Better irl than through the pho-o-one

Ego... Ego...
Na na na na
You were gonna
Better irl than through the pho-o-one

Na na na na
You were gonna dump me, dump me
Better irl than through the phone, ohh, dump me
Na na na na
You were gonna dump me, oh, dump me
Better irl than through

Mm, you were gonna dump me
Ego... Ego...
Ego... Ego...
Ego...
added on the 2007-04-21 13:54:41 by LiraNuna LiraNuna
"irl" :D
added on the 2007-04-23 20:35:05 by pyksy pyksy
http://www.cubadust.com/motion/loreal/screens.jpg :O
added on the 2007-04-26 16:44:13 by kb_ kb_
kb: wow, I wish I could thumb it down twice, this demo is the worst pile of various ripoffs ever (music, effects, graphics, concept).
added on the 2007-04-26 17:01:49 by keops keops
What keops said. :/
added on the 2007-04-26 17:07:56 by masterm masterm
What keops and masterm said.

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added on the 2007-04-26 17:24:47 by Preacher Preacher
what exactly is a ripoff in that picture? :D Pink colors, little hearts and shiny text? 'cos really, noone did that before? :D
added on the 2007-04-26 18:07:46 by Gargaj Gargaj
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a bizarrely shaped meat-grinder of some sort

dude, that's a garlic-crusher.
added on the 2007-04-26 18:10:55 by Gargaj Gargaj
The demo looks & sounds great, so why the hell should it depend on high morals and creativity?
rulez added on the 2007-04-26 18:26:37 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
kb_: I think the resemblance between this demo and loreal ad might be a coincidence. Not to many artists make their own fonts these days, they rather use standard sets. So when two artists will use the same fonts independently they overall look may be the same. Moreover - is the commercial advert market so interesting and inspiring? Also that bubble chocolate advert. The idea is so old and easy to implement that it's sad, that it's not allowed to use it anymore. Trust me that the chocolate advert is not the first that was using that effect. Last year on ICM I was showing the process of generating cloud shapes from 3d models of people faces. I assume that I'll need to bring a prove like timestamps or an eyewitness before releasing our next prod (furtunately iq and Navis was there :P but that's not the point). The real problem is that I start to think before using any simple ideas. I think that people will start to point out some similarities between our demo and ie "Debris" or this one. And in a worst case when you already have sth like 70% of your production and someone will release a demo with similar ideas to the one you haven't finished yet it means tha you must throw everything to a bin. Well it seems this way.
keops: your latest production which I like a lot reuses tons of already invented effects. It's easy to find similarities to some old productions from various platforms. But that's not the point. I think that you made what you really like and not because you like those effects in prod A, B and C. So I think it's time to finish this witch hunting process.

As for the prod: it works really nice on my PSP :), yeah the music ripping sucks, but it works prfectly with this prod. Try to get a permission from this babe rather than producing entirely new track :)
added on the 2007-04-26 19:01:50 by bonzaj bonzaj
bonzaj: my comment was meant humorously, I perfectly know why I haven't given this demo any thumb so far. :)

Apart from that - yes, it may be a coincidence, but then the sheer frequency of such coincidences (Louie's demo design "found" in some commercial ad or hi-res stuff before) looks more than a strong correlation.
added on the 2007-04-26 19:08:42 by kb_ kb_
more _like_ a strong correlation... i should make use of this preview button more often.
added on the 2007-04-26 19:09:43 by kb_ kb_
hail to the thieves!


seriously, inspiration is legal... and even advised imho :p TBL are the kings!
added on the 2007-04-26 19:33:06 by Zest Zest
Cannot decide either what I think of 'inspiration'... The result rocks though!
added on the 2007-04-26 20:41:58 by beavis77 beavis77
kb: I had a feeling, that you didn't want to put more wood into the fire, but i wanted to prevent next attacks which could be allogations.

he he there are several demos which must maturate in your head. Like a good wine :)
added on the 2007-04-26 21:07:40 by bonzaj bonzaj
not work for me... the psp shhut off... :(
sucks added on the 2007-04-26 21:16:07 by Jacksoft Jacksoft
hurray for binaries!!

w00t, it runs flawlessly on my psp 3.10 OE-A, although it took some tweaks to get it to work (made a typo in the ms0:/data/demotest name... /data/datatest doesn't quite work :P) and using the unofficial fix.

Hurray for binaries!
added on the 2007-04-26 22:58:44 by cavey cavey
you're all just jealous
dunno really why but i really love the tune of this demo ;) it fuckin' rocks my psp (!)
rulez added on the 2007-04-27 20:47:20 by gr gr
superb
rulez added on the 2007-04-28 14:53:58 by spritus spritus
great rip-off
added on the 2007-04-28 14:55:46 by wie8 wie8
ridiculous & rocking prod. türkischer honig ist nicht süsser....
rulez added on the 2007-04-28 16:20:49 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
amazing
rulez added on the 2007-04-29 16:07:46 by Amilt0n Amilt0n
great modelling, but ripped music?!
rulez added on the 2007-04-30 00:35:14 by imbusy imbusy
sorry... but this is timbaland.
sucks added on the 2007-04-30 16:39:07 by dq dq
very good! for an "unoriginal" demo it really stands out =)

it's ok to use others design concepts. I respect the hard work involved in making real time computer graphics out of them.
rulez added on the 2007-05-01 23:10:27 by Dalton Dalton
Yay for awesome PSP prods!
rulez added on the 2007-05-02 00:44:35 by GbND GbND
okay i got to see this on steeler's PSP and i gotta say it does run plausible enough.
on the other hand, there were some weird bugs going on (music stutter, weird visual things)
added on the 2007-05-03 16:46:21 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: faster memory stick would help
added on the 2007-05-04 13:34:44 by ReJ ReJ
Greate PSP prod, so thumb up.
Only one regret for the missed credits... but thumb-up anyway
rulez added on the 2007-05-04 22:54:19 by Pulsar Pulsar
Girl Girl Girl.
rulez added on the 2007-05-05 00:08:54 by feeral feeral
ripped music..
sucks added on the 2007-05-05 13:03:13 by puNky puNky
This demo is really sweet, but too much ripped ideas were used. Of course it's not very easy to model barbie dolls and create cool remix of the original track, but still, additional credits would be nice. So piggy this time.
added on the 2007-05-05 15:07:10 by Lazarus Lazarus
ok
added on the 2007-05-05 16:21:11 by jamcar jamcar
nice demo
rulez added on the 2007-05-05 18:44:17 by pezia pezia
liked it
rulez added on the 2007-05-05 18:57:11 by auld auld
Well I would not have call that a Demo some years ago - anyways, this rocks.
rulez added on the 2007-05-06 11:22:21 by JAC! JAC!
well, the face made out of balls looked fucking awful anyway.
added on the 2007-05-06 12:37:57 by tempest tempest
but here comes the thumb
rulez added on the 2007-05-06 13:08:40 by tempest tempest
Nice prod boys (I know who you are ;). I guess there is a valid reason not to reveal the credits. The reason has 4 letters and it starts with "S". Oh actually 3 letters is enough...
rulez added on the 2007-05-07 16:39:41 by jugi jugi
Brilliant remix combined with superb direction!

Credits-schmedits ... stop whining.
rulez added on the 2007-05-08 02:24:03 by Steel Steel
absolutely horrible
sucks added on the 2007-05-08 16:28:44 by sofokles sofokles
Oh yeah, runs like a dream on my PSP, visuals are smooth and the music doesn't skip. And I totally love the music.
rulez added on the 2007-05-11 10:54:16 by britelite britelite
I'm trying it on 3.40 OE-A, never had problems with HB in the past, but this one just run the logo, and then after 10 seconds shut down the psp.
added on the 2007-05-25 17:57:06 by voxo voxo
It's amazing, hey people did anyone managed to play it on a 3.40OEA? Because on mine it's not working, all the folders are in the right place and I have other HB working fine...
added on the 2007-05-25 18:11:06 by voxo voxo
voxo: works on my 3.40 oe-a psp, using the instructions and patch provided here
added on the 2007-05-25 18:15:04 by britelite britelite
britelite: I didn't found any patch on the BBS, do you mind linking me?
added on the 2007-05-25 18:22:04 by voxo voxo
voxo: ok, it's here http://www.doomsday.fi/~dice/unofficial_suicide_barbie_fix.zip
added on the 2007-05-25 18:27:42 by britelite britelite
Thanks but still not working, I've put the folder Barbiedata in the root, it should work like that...
added on the 2007-05-25 18:40:32 by voxo voxo
voxo: ahh, the stuff in BarbieData should be in a directory data/demotest in the root
added on the 2007-05-25 18:44:49 by britelite britelite
Extremely good graphics and animations. This is also one of the coolest designs I've seen in years. The part with the barbiegirl and the breaking glass is really an excellent idea.
rulez added on the 2007-05-25 18:47:07 by Corial Corial
Got it to work! Thanks a lot!

OMG This stuff just rules so much!
rulez added on the 2007-05-25 18:55:17 by voxo voxo
rulez added on the 2007-06-01 14:39:47 by Radiant Radiant
The first time I watched it, I thought it deserved an immediate bunch of thumbs up. But after reading all of the above, my thoughts about it are a lot more... less... you know.
Still this is one of the best PSP prods I've seen so far, so here goes my thumb.
rulez added on the 2007-06-17 12:46:53 by Drunken_Poet Drunken_Poet
It is simply GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rulez added on the 2007-06-20 16:58:40 by #535 #535
Damn where's my thumb?

...was soo nice on the bigscreen and here it is ,)
rulez added on the 2007-06-25 22:57:07 by wayne wayne
Hands down the best PSP demo out there, and it runs great on my 1.5 machine. There's a Very stylish bubble-gum feel to it. Looking forward to more PSP demos ;-)
rulez added on the 2007-07-10 03:38:57 by Nezbie Nezbie
rulez added on the 2007-07-13 11:28:47 by Weretiger Weretiger
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rulez added on the 2007-07-15 01:20:02 by Baz Baz
Since I acquired a PSP now I could actually watch it on the real deal, and my earlier concerns that the video was not indicative of real world performance was put to shame - it runs great and looks fantastic!
Those overbright/bloom like 3D scenes are just amazing, well, actually the whole demo is. Fantastic code, the best handheld demo so far.
The only bad thing is that it set the bar so high for PSP demo that I anything I ever manage to code on the PSP will not be worthy of a release even...
added on the 2007-07-16 01:09:03 by Sdw Sdw
Seems like there's a final version here: ftp://mirror.support.nl/pub/tbl/psp/TBL-SuicideBarbie-Final.zip.
added on the 2007-07-25 08:13:01 by britelite britelite
even it´s nice - i was bored too soon...
added on the 2007-07-25 09:25:18 by RA RA
Yes, indeed, FINAL official version is out and public. Following features included:
. proper credits
. new soundtrack without Veronica Maggio vocals
. packed music
. improved visuals
. improved framerate
. wider firmware support (including 1.00 and 3.x OE)
. proper readme.txt

Get it here:
ftp://mirror.support.nl/pub/tbl/psp/TBL-SuicideBarbie-Final.zip
added on the 2007-07-26 19:39:51 by ReJ ReJ
Quote:

. improved framerate


So you implicitly admit that you were bullshitting people about that too.
sucks added on the 2007-07-26 20:17:58 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
hitchhikr: well, the old version did run just fine on my PSP, only skipping frames a few times
added on the 2007-07-26 20:20:01 by britelite britelite
I tested on my 2 psps with sony brand mc on both and both had slowdown, the gibberish about having fast memory card to obtain constant framerate was lame to begin with.
Doing streaming from the psp memory card is incompetent anyway.

And of course without the lyrics it have much less impact or appeal.
added on the 2007-07-26 20:43:17 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Sony MS Duo cards are fairly shit, hitchhikr - I get MUCH slower access times on my 4Gb Sony MSD than on my 1Gb Sandisk.

But aside from that, I've not had slowdown on my PSPs (using both Sandisk andSony cards to test), nor has anyone to whom I've forwarded the original release of the demo.
added on the 2007-07-26 20:58:14 by syphus syphus
High speed mcs (even the sony's one) are not provided with the psp, i'm talking about the standard ones (PRO duo nowadays).
added on the 2007-07-26 21:11:16 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Well yeah, non-Pro cards don't fit in the PSP - my mistake. But I too was talking about the standard Memorystick Pro Duo cards. No slowdown on either, despite the Sandisk one being faster than the (only a month-old) Sony one.
added on the 2007-07-26 22:12:49 by syphus syphus
hitchhikr: there is always room for improvement

however next time we probably will invest more time in making demo run slower to make some ppl happy
added on the 2007-07-26 23:35:09 by ReJ ReJ
Quote:
Doing streaming from the psp memory card is incompetent anyway.


Where else do you propose they stream from?
Just do a demo without ripping commercial stuff for a change and that'll be fine.

Somehow that micro affair remembers me the racers of the tour de France and other athletes using extra means to boost their performances in competitions, no surprise if others can't stand a chance.

No hard feelings, just tell me that the demoscene isn't becoming (or has already become) an amusement park for the gaming industry bozos using professional infrastructures/knowledge to produce demos & i'll believe you.

pete: who said they should be streaming ?
added on the 2007-07-27 01:02:43 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
very nice polished final! you can see the hard work invested in it. the new mix is also well done and fitting.
and it works like a charm on my 1.5 psp.. no framedrops etc..
hitch: jealous? i think this version had also easily won any console compo yet.
added on the 2007-07-27 09:55:03 by v3nom v3nom
I just notice an industrialization of the means to produce demos and while it surely brings some good to a small minority of people, i'm not sure that it'll be beneficial to the demoscene in general.

There's an increase of the level of skills required to produce anything decent nowadays (also due to the afore mentioned reason) which apparently scares a lot of people away.
I assume a lot of them are left aside being reduced to cheering supporters (or with no other solution than using the demotools thrown away by the big ones).

Finally i notice that some people can get away with just anything (even if it involves ripping commercial material) while other can't, maybe i'm jealous about that :)

I'm not convinced that the shit-faced clowns demo wouldn't have won against that final version.
added on the 2007-07-27 15:09:22 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
yeah you could have a point there, hitch ;)
added on the 2007-07-29 19:58:01 by v3nom v3nom
TBL, you guys should consider putting a compressed old music file here on this msg. board for the few of us to use. Sort of an unofficial/official release if you will. Or can I just compress the old WAV into Atrac3? Is the timing of new song the same?

hitchhikr, the final version is better and more polished than the old one, except for the music, I suppose (the whole uproar about music was total BS to begin with, IMO). If I was seeing this for the first time, and not 101st time, there's no doubt I'd be as floored as I was when I first saw it months ago.

No frameskips at all on my PSP btw, but I don't remember seeing any on the party version either.
This rocks.
They managed to turn an average piece of music into the greatest.

Do someone have a link to (a video with) the "final" music - would like to compare with the original.

PS: Don't think that anyone has mentioned that if you download the party version, you get a wav-file of the full music - i.e. that is not cut when the scroller ends. :-)
rulez added on the 2007-08-09 03:51:13 by lemmus lemmus
PPS: Ofcourse tbl should have made it more clear from where they were inspired. I agree on that.
added on the 2007-08-13 16:03:08 by lemmus lemmus
ooh god ! excellent one ! tbl 4 life ...
rulez added on the 2007-08-29 19:32:54 by kohai kohai
Was really good. Hand-painted textures for every scene seem to be the recipe for success on all platform you're on. "Borrowing" music isn't top-notch though.
rulez added on the 2007-08-29 19:57:40 by raer raer
rulez added on the 2007-09-07 05:36:54 by thomas^sd thomas^sd
what Slummy said.
rulez added on the 2007-09-12 16:41:51 by skan skan
looks like the end was done in a hurry and therefore unfinished..
nice visual, GREAT sound
rulez added on the 2007-09-22 14:29:30 by sardaukar sardaukar
no
sucks added on the 2007-09-29 21:34:48 by BiTL BiTL
rulez added on the 2007-09-29 21:40:22 by can can
maybe heavily 'inspired' y x and x, but so far the best prod on psp. my console just came back with new, uncracked screen and it was a great to pleasure to see it finally on hw.
added on the 2007-10-06 14:39:47 by comankh comankh
WTF.? How comeZ i did NOT rate this one yet.??? damn.!

just love it.! new Playgrounds for TBL...hope there´ll be more of it in the Future.!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 00:49:56 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
ubercool
rulez added on the 2007-12-14 17:38:23 by guille^cocoon guille^cocoon
The original partyversion soundtrack compatible with the final version...

http://oms.wmhost.com/suicidebarbie_partyversion_music_packed.zip

Still a kickass prod despite all the whiners. ;)
rulez added on the 2007-12-27 20:58:57 by Zer0-X Zer0-X
Considering everything state so far... let's just say I'm kind of disappointed, not hearing a Blaizer soundtrack this time around. I'm sure TBL won't stick to this art concept in the future all the time - they have the potential to surprise us all with so much more.
added on the 2008-01-15 00:06:45 by _V_ _V_
Of course it's filled with ripped material, but... The original content (barbie pics, music) would probably bore me to death, whereas this smart remix kept me entertained all the way. Well done, guys.
rulez added on the 2008-01-15 15:54:41 by TomS4wy3R TomS4wy3R
I'm loving it :)
rulez added on the 2008-01-24 15:47:37 by samurai samurai
thumbs up for copyright violation!
rulez added on the 2008-01-28 09:07:49 by danb danb
nice
rulez added on the 2008-02-03 06:45:15 by blackpawn blackpawn
sexiest demo ever
rulez added on the 2008-02-25 10:06:45 by antron antron
rulez added on the 2008-03-16 20:56:11 by texel texel
will it blend?
rulez added on the 2008-03-30 15:59:14 by midget midget
next time make a demo with måndagsbarn.. i love that song! :)
added on the 2008-04-08 20:53:33 by chavez chavez
I love this remix!! xD
rulez added on the 2008-04-11 18:22:16 by pera pera
Sexy and with guns, love it.
rulez added on the 2008-04-16 23:13:41 by vingummi vingummi
I love this demo! It has such style and character.

So, the idea was inspired by some original pictures. How many demos have been inspired by Tron lately?
rulez added on the 2008-05-06 10:09:46 by Wade Wade
Barbie, Veronica Maggie Track remix, PSP =)
rulez added on the 2008-05-18 18:29:19 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
talking bout timbalandism, i wouldnt be surprised if the original song was taken from publishing sources. anyone to confirm that?
added on the 2008-05-18 18:50:30 by comankh comankh
Some impressive parts especially considering the platform.
rulez added on the 2008-07-10 21:53:40 by Marq Marq
Ripped/borrowed content or not, this is just put together very well, and I really enjoyed it.
rulez added on the 2008-07-11 01:10:36 by Alpha C Alpha C
for those of you carrying slims with recent fws:

http://mirror.support.nl/pub/tbl/psp/TBL-SuicideBarbie-Slim.zip

(because that's the way we like our barbies; slim fit in a plastic wrap)
added on the 2008-08-08 23:09:51 by erique erique
rulez added on the 2008-08-08 23:18:55 by relias abardon relias abardon
oh baby, das ist SO cool!
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 21:33:44 by Sir Sir
Friggin awesome!
rulez added on the 2008-08-23 14:40:51 by Stebo Stebo
No thumb yet? Oh well, here goes... :-) Brilliant demo!
rulez added on the 2008-08-23 15:08:50 by Mystra Mystra
coooooooool!
rulez added on the 2008-08-23 15:17:32 by neoneye neoneye
Timbaland went demoscene.
added on the 2008-08-23 15:53:05 by shock__ shock__
<3 absolutely awesome, but the endtune > all

rulez added on the 2008-09-02 14:26:08 by corexplozion corexplozion
i can't explain why i like this, but i do
rulez added on the 2008-10-10 14:15:10 by gr9yfox gr9yfox
pure rokkenrol
rulez added on the 2008-11-12 08:38:41 by lemonade lemonade
what sardaukar said
rulez added on the 2008-12-20 22:21:39 by neptun neptun
hm, while the psp phat version has a new soundtrack, the psp slim version has the soundtrack of the party version? weird!
added on the 2008-12-22 21:46:56 by elkmoose elkmoose
Some youtube idiot flagged the video for being 'inappropriate'. =)
added on the 2008-12-23 21:16:21 by tomaes tomaes
Absolutely killer design and amazing tune! Rockz!
rulez added on the 2009-01-03 17:28:37 by Cleaner Cleaner
looks über-cool on real psp hardware! I love it!
rulez added on the 2009-01-14 02:34:05 by Dano Dano
oh yeah let's get this one concept, rip it off and display. let's also not forget to infringe copyrights for the music for consistency's sake.

yeah right.
sucks added on the 2009-01-18 09:39:28 by decipher decipher
nice
rulez added on the 2009-03-15 14:19:46 by Ized Ized
Sorry, but no. With your skills you could have done much better. It sucks.
sucks added on the 2009-04-05 16:32:47 by aizen aizen
This demo make me feel... "funny". Where can I find this Barbie?
rulez added on the 2009-05-05 23:15:54 by Psychad Psychad
yeah!
added on the 2009-06-18 15:44:53 by Amilt0n Amilt0n
Well done. Impressive, entertaining, stylish. Only makes me wish there were a bigger PSP demo scene.
rulez added on the 2009-06-22 05:14:24 by paranoid paranoid
Very entertaining, good composition, nice remix :)
rulezcdc added on the 2009-07-16 04:32:39 by tzaeru tzaeru
Anyways, failed to start on real PSP
sucks added on the 2009-07-16 04:36:23 by Exin Exin
best one on my PSP !!!
rulez added on the 2009-09-15 19:30:43 by phm/syndrome(zx) phm/syndrome(zx)
Quote:
Final version: new soundtrack without Veronica Maggio vocals

But.. the final video does indeed have the vocals. Where can I get the soundtrack without the vocals?
added on the 2009-10-08 21:50:17 by gloom gloom
YES
rulez added on the 2009-11-07 01:33:39 by cosmicollie cosmicollie
Very nice !
rulez added on the 2009-11-07 17:50:43 by lsl lsl
just watched it on a PSP. Portable Demos are win.
rulez added on the 2009-12-09 18:53:20 by Mel Mel
What Mel said. Especially this one.
rulez added on the 2009-12-09 19:15:37 by menace menace
Glop glop glop !
rulez added on the 2009-12-09 21:04:19 by Hicks Hicks
where is thumb.
rulez added on the 2010-01-18 12:18:29 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
Cool! At last the Slim version works on my ChickHened Slim 2K :) What a lovely demo! Now I can watch it realtime at last.
added on the 2010-04-03 20:37:15 by Factor6 Factor6
Really nice work.
rulez added on the 2010-04-10 14:53:39 by elmindreda elmindreda
Despite all the negative things said... This simply rocks. Well done Erik, Louie and Elusive.
rulez added on the 2010-05-11 11:36:55 by infant infant
I really prefer the final but with the original music (with the stolen vocals. hehe) The demo looses its touch without the "dumpa mig" :)
added on the 2010-05-11 12:55:20 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
Rocks, for some reason never thumbed before...
rulez added on the 2010-09-26 20:41:34 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
Wow, what an impressive prod! Great work in many regards.
rulez added on the 2010-11-20 17:05:49 by Zavie Zavie
No sir.
added on the 2010-11-20 17:16:52 by leGend leGend
Kicked ass!

I even did unauthorized remix from the unauthorized remix, back then.

here
rulez added on the 2010-11-20 18:19:39 by Rebb Rebb
Quote:
We need to talk about the possible copyright infringement of the soundtrack, so we can decide whether we have to disqualify and nuke the release.

No no no no no. Actually YOU should talk to a DOCTOR about a possible dysfunction in your head causing pointless aggression and delusions of grandeur.
added on the 2010-11-20 19:05:10 by vibrator vibrator
(fuck it i thumb it up)
rulez added on the 2011-03-19 02:56:58 by wullon wullon
nice!
rulez added on the 2011-04-04 21:40:18 by martin martin
The final is awesome! My two girls (5 & 3 years old) love this one :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-12 18:42:56 by maytz maytz
awesome!
rulez added on the 2011-04-18 17:03:29 by superplek superplek
Is that a vibrator in her hand?
added on the 2011-04-18 17:45:00 by raer raer
Rare: Unfortunately, it looks like it's just one of these:
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added on the 2011-04-18 17:59:25 by kusma kusma
Forgotten thumb!
rulez added on the 2011-04-18 18:24:53 by jack-3d jack-3d
yup
rulez added on the 2011-06-21 21:43:02 by gibs gibs
babes!
added on the 2011-06-21 23:12:48 by baah baah
Just super!
rulez added on the 2011-06-22 00:02:10 by Emod Emod
where is the executable ?
added on the 2011-07-26 22:35:14 by thomas^sd thomas^sd
Loving this!
rulez added on the 2011-09-05 23:11:45 by moozooh moozooh
Smiling bullets :)
rulez added on the 2012-02-18 18:21:08 by Frequent Frequent
1up
rulez added on the 2012-03-06 10:30:51 by GottZ GottZ
great!
rulez added on the 2012-03-27 15:31:30 by provod provod
Fantastic!!!
rulez added on the 2012-04-09 18:53:31 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
Magnificient.
rulez added on the 2012-04-25 14:09:25 by Bartoshe Bartoshe
Best demo ever. Music is catchy and visuals are very slick and polished. And since when demoscene has cared about copyright? :)
rulez added on the 2012-05-28 08:49:24 by hot multimedia hot multimedia
Style, tune, platform - and a overdue thumb :3
rulez added on the 2012-11-25 15:18:49 by mog mog
Can't find a working link for the Slim version :(
added on the 2012-12-01 19:03:13 by keito keito
cool shit slathered in design grave, i don't even care about the lifted content (great artists steal yaddayadda...). it's a bit static tho...
rulez added on the 2012-12-30 23:37:04 by noby noby
gravy*, even :)
added on the 2012-12-30 23:37:35 by noby noby
Where can a slim version be found? There seem to be no working link.
added on the 2012-12-31 13:06:42 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
Quote:
Guns, girls, beer; everything a young man desires nicely packaged together.
ripped.

What Sverker said,- damn that tune, fucking earworm! <3
added on the 2013-01-18 01:31:17 by mog mog
-ripped O_o
added on the 2013-01-18 01:31:40 by mog mog
soundtrack and platform!
rulez added on the 2013-03-04 21:02:41 by bonefish bonefish
... and weapons...
rulez added on the 2013-03-04 21:58:58 by baah baah
!
rulez added on the 2013-05-14 11:53:03 by trc_wm trc_wm
Any non-dead link to the original version of the soundtrack?
added on the 2013-05-14 12:59:08 by break break
break: mp3-version?
added on the 2013-05-14 13:00:38 by britelite britelite
For example :)
added on the 2013-05-14 13:59:25 by break break
works under emulation (ppsspp has a few bugs, especially obvious in mirror scenes but it'll get better!):
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rulez added on the 2013-06-23 09:39:03 by ruairi [rc55] ruairi [rc55]
That's my emu :)
rulez added on the 2013-07-20 23:06:22 by ector ector
 
rulez added on the 2013-08-15 10:52:31 by w00t! w00t!
Does anyone still have a copy of the slim version? The download link is broken and I can't find it archived anywhere :(
@ thecellartroll

I second your request. I've been looking for a slim version for quite some time.
It's nowhere to be found. Anyone has it? If so, please upload it.
added on the 2013-09-01 13:39:39 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
I've also been looking for the slim version, with no success :-/
added on the 2013-09-01 13:54:43 by keito keito
Hi, I've been asked by @thecellartroll to uploading it somewhere, I still had it on my slim PSP memory card. So here is it on the temporary storage. Please upload it to some scene archive (I hope it works, it's just copied and zipped. Also, there should be some Mac specific file garbage, so better remove and repack it before further spreading).
added on the 2013-09-01 20:59:29 by Factor6 Factor6
Thanks for the upload Factor6... Sadly it doesn't seem to be working on my PSP Slim E1000 with CFW 6.60.
added on the 2013-09-01 21:26:19 by keito keito
@Factor6
Thanks very much for the upload! :) I'll check it tomorrow. Meanwhile, I've just started downloading.
added on the 2013-09-01 22:40:14 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
I have PSP 3004 with ChickHEN. It works there fine.
added on the 2013-09-02 12:50:53 by Factor6 Factor6
Thanks Factor6 :D

Alas this does not work on my 3003 660-ProC
It doesn't work on my PSP 3004 with CFW 6.20. Pity :(
So it seems that it only works with ChickHEN.
added on the 2013-09-03 19:25:34 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
Also, anyone still got the original party version? All links seem dead.
added on the 2013-09-03 19:38:41 by break break
Can confirm, it does not work on real hardware but emulator works fine here.
added on the 2013-09-03 20:20:20 by CHEF-KOCH CHEF-KOCH
works on 5.00 M33-6 + 1.50 kernel addon !

precious demo
rulez added on the 2013-09-10 00:40:33 by webodan webodan
Fucking nice!
rulez added on the 2013-09-13 19:52:46 by CHEF-KOCH CHEF-KOCH
most utilmate greatest demo ever!
rulez added on the 2014-04-16 16:22:10 by ruplik ruplik
Despite the stealing/remixing of music and ideas, this is still great entertainment. :)
rulez added on the 2014-05-24 11:11:54 by Kylearan Kylearan
:)
rulez added on the 2014-07-04 13:33:09 by las las
Not my cup of tea
but thumb up for ideas, code and all the effort. Great wok
rulez added on the 2014-07-04 19:20:57 by whizart whizart
best demo :)
rulez added on the 2014-08-16 17:26:35 by _nhan _nhan
solid demo, one of my favourite soundtracks of all times. can't get the song out of my head for years now.
rulez added on the 2014-08-19 12:22:04 by randomi randomi
^ Agree, i still remember it to this day and enjoy watching it.
added on the 2014-08-31 03:51:33 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
Solid as rock.
rulez added on the 2014-08-31 04:03:53 by xball xball
You kidding me, I forgot to thumb this up? Remixing pop to make demo soundtracks... hm...well if you can do that you can make your own songs?

But I can say this prod is excellent, just... excellent and pure entertainment, *great* art direction, no wonder it won :D
rulez added on the 2014-08-31 04:25:52 by Photon Photon
I can confirm that this runs fine on my newly acquired PSP 2003 with ME2.2 firmware :D
rulez added on the 2014-09-03 00:07:34 by thecellartroll thecellartroll
here, the fact was to be champion of masturbation, and difficult link to this prod is merely unsafe, but as for most of prods, a hearing troubles caused by those primitives persons ta-h-t wanted to compete...
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 11:39:40 by Barti Barti
Watched 'by accident' again today, still as good, adding HD Youtube link for maximum pleasure :)
added on the 2016-01-25 00:15:58 by Photon Photon
Could someone please provide binaries for the slim version? Doesn't have to be the original archive if you just have it on your PSP, though that would be preferred.
rulez added on the 2016-10-24 20:26:43 by pilu pilu
Platform thumb, but the demo is cool too.
rulez added on the 2016-11-11 01:09:51 by Trilkk Trilkk
Absolutely massive in every each way.
rulez added on the 2016-11-11 01:31:09 by introspec introspec
great one
rulez added on the 2017-01-23 15:01:08 by nagz nagz

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