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ZINE #13 by Brainstorm [web] & BitFellas [web]
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release date : february 2008
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  • Hyde Hyde [Code (additional)]
  • smash smash [Code (interface), Graphics (design)]
  • ck ck [Graphics (interface graphics and design)]
  • prm prm [Graphics (layout)]
  • keito keito [Music]
  • el-bee el-bee [Music]
  • gloom gloom [Music, Other (senior editor)]
  • Axel Axel [Other (editor in chief)]
  • runaro runaro [Other (editor)]
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First!
reading now thumb later :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 10:58:19 by magic magic
you're so brilliant magic ...
sidenote: includes the nominees of the 6th Scene.org Awards.

have fun :)
added on the 2008-02-29 11:00:04 by Axel Axel
Guardin: rather a coincidence that I am free of work today otherwide I would be much later. But off to read.. :)
added on the 2008-02-29 11:00:36 by magic magic
Fifth!
added on the 2008-02-29 11:01:16 by skan skan
first impression is brilliant
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:08:33 by chromag chromag
magic: and don't forget to thumb later :D
What Chromag said. And it works on this crappy gfx card here at work \o/ Thanks dudes! :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:16:37 by StingRay StingRay
Awesome! :D
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:24:24 by Fleshlight Fleshlight
10th!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:35:50 by xernobyl xernobyl
To be more specific, I think this issue has some big improvements over the last one:

The interface is really intuitive (though a bit slow on my machine but since Stingray gets to work it on his crappy gfxcard it might be my own personal problem..)
I think it's a good chioce to minimize the amount of articles and go for more regular releases. All of the articles were interesting (didn't read everything yet, but the headlines indeed were really inviting to spend some more time with the mag)
The design is really fresh and professional. It feels like reading a high quality paper magazine. Obviously you have some great layouters.
There is an overall feeling of nice and subtle humour inside the articles I've read so far. Ok, from time to time the humour isn't that subtle anymore. Also the english is well edited :)
Congrats upon this great issue... Looking forward to the next, which will probably be released next week.
added on the 2008-02-29 11:38:13 by chromag chromag
One thing I forgot to point out: The music selection is so much better no. While I only really enjoyed Virgill's track in the last issue, I really like every track in here ...
added on the 2008-02-29 11:39:36 by chromag chromag
This is really sweet! Great articles, great design, great language and great music. Also, the text-rendering and interface makes it very comfortable and relaxing to the eyes to read and browse, which is uncommon for diskmags imho
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:46:26 by Duckers Duckers
THAT'S an interface guys.
thumbs up for that alone.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:53:07 by Gargaj Gargaj
Hands down, the best issue of the best mag ever produced for the scene. Very nice and intuitive interface. Good music. The articles I have read so far are well crafted and balanced. Comments on individual articles will follow later, but I have no inhibitions about showing my thumb up Axel and co.'s tender butts right now. Yay!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:53:44 by Archmage Archmage
Very nice one indeed.

It doesn't run in windowed mode here : the Zine app appears in the task bar but no actual window is being displayed, weird.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 11:58:55 by keops keops
Some of the headlines as reminders:

-ZINE unveils the nominees of the 6th Scene.org Awards
-NVIDIA and the Demoscene: NVScene revealed
-Skaven is back: Song and Interview inside
-Demoscene Outreach Tour: The Full Story
-A Moment of Pixar: Rick Sayre interviewed
-Design: Discussion with Fiver2, Zoom, Archmage, Xenusion, Keops and Navis
-Backstage: The Making of Candystall and Stiletto
-Report: Demosceners in the games industry
-Kefrens: "We Never Really Left."
added on the 2008-02-29 12:11:28 by Axel Axel
cool date to release a mag.. :)
added on the 2008-02-29 12:19:08 by leijaa leijaa
Big thumb up for the interface and the music, I've not read much of the content yet, but it looks to be another seriously good read :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 12:19:57 by psonice psonice
crashes. good job smash...
added on the 2008-02-29 12:20:18 by nystep nystep
Great mag...

Is there a way to zoom in the articles even more ?

Thanks
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 12:29:07 by amiga4ever amiga4ever
Great GUI, enjoyable articles (at least the ones I've read till now)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 12:30:04 by Jailbird Jailbird
a bit difficult to read and navigate - but it's ok ...
added on the 2008-02-29 12:37:51 by BiTbUsTeR BiTbUsTeR
Did I adjusted to the Zine#12 engine, did they remove it and implemented a new one :) great! Looks and feels like a real magazine. The number of articles is dissapointing, even less than issue 12. But who's counting? :)
Great music, nice design.
Where is Facet his article about graphics and LordHelmet should have written something?
All in all nice job! 7.8 out of 10 rating

added on the 2008-02-29 12:53:50 by magic magic
This is fucking ridiculous. The bar has been set for diskmag interfaces. This is what the term 'intuitive' means - when you don't have to read somebody's semi-gibberish instructions and then end up relying on a combination of mouseclick-acrobatics and blind fucking luck. Great articles and music too :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 12:55:43 by syphus syphus
Awesome interface (yeah, even I managed to use it, and found the "howto" after reading for a long time :)

Oh, and the articles were excellent also; well written, and a throughout enjoyable experience.

But then.... can you top this ? :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 12:56:41 by Dozer Dozer
simply excellent. the article's i've read so far (maybe two thirds :) are top notch. and the interface is a big improvement - especially the text rendering engine, which seems quite solid now :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:01:07 by ryg ryg
that's exactly what i call HIGH QUALITY! excellent!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:22:27 by zeebr zeebr
perfect.

29th! \o/
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:27:44 by skan skan
30th!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:29:11 by diver diver
Booted windows for it. - Great mag. Good work from all sides. I demand a linux reader! I don't need a that fancy interface.
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Mercury sends out really HUGE fuckings to the scene.org award jury. Thank you. ;]
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:32:51 by las las
extremely nice :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:33:33 by Maali Maali
Instant win. Details later, that is in case I managed to find something that I don't like 100%. Which I doubt.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:35:59 by kb_ kb_
nice stuff :)
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And yeah, Mercury sends out really

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fuckings to the scene.org award jury. Thank you. ;]
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:40:46 by src src
Excellent visual experience and great content, too. This rocks.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:46:36 by scamp scamp
This is how it should be, hats off gentlemen.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:52:28 by zoom zoom
very good. the tune by keito also made my day. thx!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 13:53:11 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
Magic: Facet didn't send anything this time. Might reappear in next issue instead. Helmet's article was jointly postponed to next issue since it lacked content.
added on the 2008-02-29 14:02:58 by Axel Axel
Works with crossover on mac!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 14:11:12 by irvin irvin
i feel mugged ;) DIE ZINE SCHMERZT!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 14:19:22 by paniq paniq
Axel: thanx for clearing that up!

p.s. good job! :)
added on the 2008-02-29 14:23:47 by magic magic
This issue rules because of so much things. The music is very good to read things with, the effects are simple but well done so it doesn't get you out of the important part - the articles. About the articles themselves, I've read a few by now: great quality!

A "dump to PDF"-like feature would be very much appreciated :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 14:35:57 by stage7 stage7
top notch content!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 14:43:45 by dwarf dwarf
For anyone looking for more information about the NVScene 08 demo party (announced in the magazine), please visit http://nvision.scene.org/
added on the 2008-02-29 14:44:56 by gloom gloom
Nice interfaz, excellent music and good articles.
Top quality. I'm still reading.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 14:46:14 by ham ham
after the title pic I get a load of random blocks.. (white background) ..

anyone else get this or know what it is?
added on the 2008-02-29 15:10:03 by darkus darkus
if anyone is having problems running it, drop me a mail.
we tested it pretty widely on a large range of configs (including some low end intel integrated cards, fx5-series cards and so on) and havent had any problems, so it should work pretty much everywhere, unless your card really is ancient. :)
added on the 2008-02-29 15:12:06 by smash smash
random blocks? can't click anything, no music etc?
added on the 2008-02-29 15:12:54 by Axel Axel
Nice Interface, good articles and smooth tunes! ;)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 15:16:34 by Premium Premium
Great stuff!
good articles and usable interface.
go on :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 15:51:30 by gopher gopher
the interface alone is ten thumbs up worth! ;-)
WOW.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 15:57:16 by v3nom v3nom
Despite the interface feeling strangely laggy (c2duo, gf 8600GT), this by far the best mag ever.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 16:01:21 by Preacher Preacher
Excellent articles and presentation. Slightly slow mouse response in the interface though.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 16:03:39 by parcelshit parcelshit
excellent stuff... impressive graphics, very well designed... nice stuff to read and great music.
wonderfull. :D
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 16:16:16 by wie8 wie8
nice stuff
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 16:31:39 by gg|rhg gg|rhg
axel, smash: I can hear music and see some graphics but no text or anything which could help me navigate.

I`m running on a laptop (dualcore 1.72ghz, 2gb mem, Intel 945GM Express)
added on the 2008-02-29 17:23:10 by darkus darkus
nice one.. design is very clean..
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 17:32:14 by mad mad
lovely! nice n clean interface - nice handling - nice tunes- totally top!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 17:41:23 by titus^rab titus^rab
could use a few more articles but well made.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 17:43:52 by psenough psenough
Don`t have any EP articles, so thumb down.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 17:44:49 by Zplex Zplex
Yesyesyes! Flawless issue!

Chromag, Fishwave, thank goodness you don´t show the really evil pictures ;)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 17:58:12 by Virgill Virgill
Pure awesome, so smooth and you can feel the love, care and attention put into this in all areas.

The tune, Dennegangenda by Little Bitchard & Gloom for some reason is haunting my mind, it's very beautiful :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 18:02:37 by keito keito
whoa. great mag.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 18:12:58 by BoyC BoyC
This is how a magazine should be done. Good selection of interesting reading and features. Also thanks for revamping the UI, huge improvement over the last issue!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 18:22:10 by melw melw
Minor niggle; is it really worth packing the music in the exe? It would be nice to be able to listen to the tracks without the mag.
Burgrlovr: just unpack the .exe with winrar :)
added on the 2008-02-29 18:35:56 by magic magic
that's what I was waiting for! The interface is excellent (I haven't thumbed the previous issue because of that), and the articles are really interesting. I found some news in the mag! Amazing :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 18:41:32 by bonzaj bonzaj
I just wanted to take a look at it and... I've ended up reading the whole mag in a row... damn! Great mag!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 18:50:26 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
Great! Nice interface and very good & interesting articles.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 18:59:46 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
diskmag redefined!! just wow! I'm sort of changing my mind on how info should be spread. Before I thought that you might aswell just knock up a page on the internet with scene stuff.

Framed in such a nice package as this it is actually a better read than what you could have done using internet (duh... :) ) I list the newly discovered diskmag advantages over traditional internets browsing style.

+ Smooth intarface which is simple and easy on the eyes. No ugly flashing, re-draw mess or waiting variable amounts of time between pageswaps because the network connection isn't up to transfering the.. yes. you know.
+ No ads or animated gifs while you try to read something
+ No desktop or browser in view tempting you to take a break from the reading to check the mailbox or see if something has happened on the internet.
+ No unneccessary links breaking up the read.

iT IS cooL!

In this format I actually found it a better read

+ Articles
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 19:02:48 by loaderror loaderror
keito: btw, melody of the guitar of your tune reminds me strongly of some poptune, but i cant remember the title, dammit :D
added on the 2008-02-29 19:13:19 by Maali Maali
Fantastic issue! Congrats to everyone involved!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 19:13:51 by Stebo Stebo
haha cool, when u remember it, let me know, i'd like to hear it :)
added on the 2008-02-29 19:14:18 by keito keito
It did hang up my machine :)
added on the 2008-02-29 19:21:31 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
excellent interface, great look and feel, content feels good
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 19:25:59 by Warhead Warhead
is it online?
there is a zine... finaly :-) bigup to axel, smash and prm for making this happen :-)
added on the 2008-02-29 20:41:39 by ck ck
Really great articles and modern, super-stylish layout. I spent more time in reading ZINE#13 then any other diskmag before, even if there could be a few more articles. Music was not my taste - I think I'm the only one here. :-)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 20:47:02 by Bobic Bobic
Finally managed to read it somewhere.. It's fantastic, great work guys, even (and i was surprised you're that good) mr fart. This is the way i wanna read my mags, brilliant!

Selfgroupvoting? bite me.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 20:51:05 by Serpent Serpent
crashed with a white screen with black bars on top and bottom. config: gf4mx, 256mb ram, intel celeron 2,6ghz. is my pc too lame for this? :(

anyway i can already give thumb for what i see in the screenshot. that's how i always wnated a diskmag to look like!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 21:02:12 by dipswitch dipswitch
Dip : gf4mx doesn't support Pixel Shaders.
added on the 2008-02-29 21:06:36 by keops keops
Quote:
Zine 'should work' without pixel shader
added on the 2008-02-29 21:07:46 by keops keops
i would even buy a new gfx card just to be able to read zine, but only if i knew that its really a gfx card issue.
added on the 2008-02-29 21:11:39 by dipswitch dipswitch
Kewl! Me wants more of such zine stuff :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 21:12:26 by besh besh
dipswitch : a gf4mx will be an issue for any demo in 2008, you should upgrade to a cheap 8600 or something.
added on the 2008-02-29 21:15:21 by keops keops
..not that the other specs of dip's pc will bottleneck any demo in 2008 ;)
added on the 2008-02-29 21:21:06 by Maali Maali
Interface, content, design, all excellent :)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 21:21:10 by Alpha C Alpha C
Indeed I did not notice the 256 mb of RAM !
It's barely what it takes to run Windows XP alone :)
added on the 2008-02-29 21:22:59 by keops keops
Just great.
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 22:15:22 by #535 #535
I really like the new design - the page layout looks like it could come straight out of any fancy, glossy-paper magazine!
Interesting content coupled with good editing makes for a very professional impression.
The number of articles is just about right, as it is now you can pretty much read all of them, instead of getting overwhelmed by the amount of content and just skimming. Quality over quantity any day!
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 23:03:08 by Sdw Sdw
it is not working on my config too. and as far as this is a notebook, no way to change gfx card. so, fix it, please, or do an on-line version faster!
512 mb ram, win xp, ati mobility radeon 7500.
added on the 2008-02-29 23:20:33 by elfh elfh
Gorgeous.
Since one article tells you how to get a machine that vastly outclasses the minimum requirements, I'd say it's just fine ^_^
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 23:45:28 by GbND GbND
This is really top quality, a good looking interface, well designed page layouts and most importantly: articles that are actually very interesting. I'm already looking forward to Zine #14 :-)
rulez added on the 2008-02-29 23:49:22 by sparcus sparcus
as already said.: a REDEFINITION of DISKMAGz fitting a lot better into 2008....

...but also what amiga4ever said already.: i need to ZOOM into an Article even further (as in Zine #12) ...with that one funCtion reimplementeD i´d give an overall-rating of 100% ;)

is there sth like a BRS-Seal for Quality.? ;)

Stiftung Warentest 9.5/10.0
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 00:41:25 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
note to editors: i was gonna write something like "PEONYGARDEN IS NOT THE FIRST DEMOGROUP FROM CHINA. WE WROTE A FUCKING REPORT FOR PAIN WELL OVER A YEAR AGO ON THE STATE OF THE NEW BORN CHINESE SCENE EVEN BEFORE THIS PEONYGARDEN DEMO WAS RELEASED, THERE ARE OVER 4 CHINESE DEMOGROUPS, MOST OF THEM 1 MAN ARMY, DO YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK BEFORE STATING WRONG FACTS YOU LAZY BASTARDS." but i think i'll just drop a link to sycini instead. no, on second thought, lets leave the original statement intact.
added on the 2008-03-01 04:09:39 by psenough psenough
Still no simultaneous online release -> auto-thumbdown
sucks added on the 2008-03-01 05:20:26 by viznut/pwp viznut/pwp
Viznut, your mom and I had a simultaneous release last night.
added on the 2008-03-01 06:49:27 by runaro runaro
Well produced okay tracks.
Very good design.

Next time: moar content.

Still, appreciated.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 07:14:23 by __ __
ps: okay, point taken. we'll correct that in Zine 14, and the caps impressed me very much. :)
added on the 2008-03-01 07:40:16 by Axel Axel
Gotta admit this was good, both designwise, ui and content. Even got me reading a few articles with interest. I was going to complain about the number of entries being too low, but if this comes out more often I'll skip that :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 07:45:42 by leijaa leijaa
Candystall article was great! Interface much better. Layout was good.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 07:57:49 by auld auld
Wow! The engine and design is even more impressive than last time, the music selection is outstanding and the articles have a very mature and professional style.

I would have liked to see more heated and provocative content, but that's just a personal preference.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 08:09:28 by Wade Wade
great and fantastik mag! well done!
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 08:26:01 by sINk sINk
Very cool !
Well made design.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 08:44:37 by willbe willbe
I am impressed. Issue 13 improves on 12 in all respects, and 12 was already one of the best mags in recent times. For the first time in a long, long time I have sat down and read a mag from start to finish and not found a dull moment.

I think this mag proves the validity of a traditional diskmag in 2008, and as I said when I wrote about issue 12 - I sincerely hope this inspires other diskmag makers out there to do better. The bar has been set.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 08:50:03 by menace menace
Very good read, especially the Candystall article. I found some of the text a little hard to read and changing the resolution didn't help. It was only really a problem on the grey on white, however.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 08:57:22 by bfx bfx
GJN <3 Zine #13.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 09:54:51 by wrthlss wrthlss
hi smash, how to drop you an email there is none in your profile :(

i have most likely the same problem, the start screen looks like the upper left screen on the screenshot but no font altogether, when clicking around a bit i can zoom in and see nice images (like the scene.org logo in the lower left of one of the screens) but no text altogether.

http://home.arcor.de/mschierlm/test/zine13.png

tried it on winxp both as restricted user and as admin.

do you require any non-standard font (not included with winxp) to read it?

--> plz drop me an email to zine13.mihi42 at safersignup.com thx
added on the 2008-03-01 13:12:09 by mihi mihi
I have the same problem as Mihi on my pc at work. I can zoom but I have no text.
Maybe due to the Intel chipset ?
added on the 2008-03-01 13:29:37 by frost242 frost242
the fonts are actually vector glyphs so if i'd have to make a guess it would be on the assumption of 32bit indexbuffers
added on the 2008-03-01 13:32:58 by Gargaj Gargaj
the fonts are included in the datafile.
gargaj, you could be right about the 32 bit index buffers - makes sense, the images dont use an indexbuffer. if i can get some betatesters, we'll try and fix it.

btw, my email is pretty easy to find, just check any flt info file. or leave a message with the brainstorm guys at their site. :)
added on the 2008-03-01 14:11:11 by smash smash
;)
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 14:36:03 by bodo^rab bodo^rab
keito: Thanks man, I love your chilled out tune as well. *hugs*

viznut: The reason for not co-publishing at the _exact same time_ is of course that we want people to actually see and use the diskmag. After all, it was months and months in the making for a large group of people.

The content will be put online some time after the release of the diskmag, and that's just the way it is. Sorry. :)
added on the 2008-03-01 14:58:36 by gloom gloom
Boh... I prefer Hugi instead...

Haha.. just kidding! :P Nice issue. Smash: the mouse handling is a bit buggy here, rollOver, rollOut states I mean.

Then, I have this little issue with th finger on the right button that clicks the button during long times of hand inactivity, so you can imagine, *click* damn! I lost the point! ok, click again to go in the article again.. find the page... keep reading... *click* damn!!

Overall is really good, and the kerning this time is correct, was able to read a couple of articles too :) Missed MediaMolecule on the sceners at game company articles, and Pyro info was a bit (a lot) outdated I think.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 17:11:13 by mrdoob mrdoob
Btw, not expecting to fix the right click thing, cos is a personal thing, just to make it clear...

Oh, and... if you guys keep this interface and you want a direct online version, let me know, cos I think its doable with flash.
added on the 2008-03-01 17:32:52 by mrdoob mrdoob
trace: but you shouldn't use flash cos viznut wont be able to see it via telnet.
added on the 2008-03-01 17:38:14 by Gargaj Gargaj
Everything was said already... So the only thing I have to do is THUMB up!
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 17:45:21 by s7ing^ATZ s7ing^ATZ
So, when am i able to read this? When is there going to be bitfellas readable version?
added on the 2008-03-01 20:38:02 by waffle waffle
it will come. please be a little little patient. It's not as easy as some of you obviously think.
added on the 2008-03-01 20:40:55 by Axel Axel
It's a question of the engine not to obfuscate the datafile so that some simple text format would be available for handicapped people (be that hardware and software wise)
added on the 2008-03-01 20:49:59 by waffle waffle
I agree with waffle. It would be cool to at least be able to read the text in some editor or such.
added on the 2008-03-01 21:00:16 by y0bi y0bi
and not just to criticize a poor outdated magazine format I'm therefor willing to offer a remedy by making an alternative reader for OS X and Linux if Zine's data format is opened for the general public.
added on the 2008-03-01 21:01:08 by waffle waffle
waffle: The text is of course important, but the whole package is sort of a full-deal. Getting the pictures where they are supposed to go, having the proper formatting and such.

So that is why there will be an online version which is formatted and published by the ZINE staff. You'll just have to wait a bit to read the articles, or just run the executable on a Windows machine somewhere. :)
added on the 2008-03-01 21:21:59 by gloom gloom
a port to other platforms could of course be considered though. Let's talk at BP. :)
added on the 2008-03-01 21:35:10 by Axel Axel
oh and waffle: make sure you get me one of those plastic-bag scotch's from ryan air again. ;)
added on the 2008-03-01 21:35:51 by Axel Axel
Axel: Sorry, I'm taking a finnair flight this year because I'd most likely harass Serpent too much on the flight otherwise! ;)
But yeah, the suggestion is for real so I'd be more than willing to talk about it near the good olde bonfire of Bingen at Breakpoint.
added on the 2008-03-01 21:49:15 by waffle waffle
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 21:50:10 by rbz rbz
I loved the interface. Let's see now the content..
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 22:02:56 by reality3D reality3D
Very well-made! Now that the interface is clean and polished, just add more content please. :)

The behind-the-scenes stuff and general background on things is a lot of fun to read, much more so than generic email-interviews/poetry/charts, and I appreciate the effort that was put into this.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 22:26:02 by sagacity sagacity
awesomeness guys
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 22:36:21 by EviL EviL
very nice work
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 01:25:25 by med med
Great!
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 09:48:45 by Lazarus Lazarus
The interface and layout are infinitely better than in the previous issue, not to mention the plethora of great articles.
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 09:57:42 by Nezbie Nezbie
congrats to all the team. Time t enjoy it now!
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 10:07:50 by iq iq
waffle: the data format is something along the lines of a bastardised compressed binary version of an svg file. it's compressed for a reason - so the mag size doesnt bloat to 5x what it is right now. :)
i can probably give you the details of the format if you're actually serious about doing something with it, though.
added on the 2008-03-02 11:33:54 by smash smash
smash: yeah, I'm interested for some further specs about the file format. If you need to contact me I go by the nick of luftwaffle at IRCNet or via e-mail
added on the 2008-03-02 13:34:34 by waffle waffle
oh dear lord, that e-mail address is actually a false one... mika.rautio is the working one :)
added on the 2008-03-02 13:36:52 by waffle waffle
Brilliant interface and design :) A pleasure to read! Looking forward to Zine #14!
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 14:47:02 by Zeila Zeila
Oh yeah... perfect package and art (keito's track is particularly brilliant).
The content is entertaining and fresh, if you skip the mandatory "blablabla are coming back" - "blabla tells us about the old times" - "blblb would really like to come back but he has white hair and aching bones" - "people who quit the demoscene and got a life at this or that software house" which make me feel way older than I am :D
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 14:57:20 by dixan dixan
quite nice - in every way
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 14:58:21 by a-move a-move
The GUI is faster and more practical now. Some nice stuff to read. Hey, it's Ahoo in the screenshot :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 16:33:20 by Optimus Optimus
This is the most awesome diskmag I have ever seen in my life. The interface rules so much, and the articles that I have read areabsolutely top-notch. You guys are awesome! Oh, and did I mention the great music?
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 19:19:28 by s_tec s_tec
WOW.
So much more polished and professional looking than #12.
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 19:19:35 by lemmus lemmus
Excellently stylish design and fun reading.
rulez added on the 2008-03-02 23:11:07 by ozoi ozoi
@ Optimus: =))
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 05:32:04 by Aasemoon Aasemoon
Simply awesome.
And : RHO COMMENT T'ES SEXE SUR LA TOF MON P'TIT KEOPS!
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 12:26:29 by iks iks
Irokos : now you're being gay :)

Axel : worth a second thumb up, the whole mag is just excellent (apart from the pointless articles about nostalgia or the one wondering if Andromeda and others will still kick ass 15 years later).
added on the 2008-03-03 13:43:14 by keops keops
thank you sir :)
added on the 2008-03-03 13:47:14 by Axel Axel
BB Image BB Image BB Image

There :) Can't wait to read issue #14 ! And congrats to Smash and Hyde for the interface, it's really pleasant.
added on the 2008-03-03 13:50:23 by keops keops
Now I finally had time to read the whole mag, and as all already said, it was a really pleasant reading. Awesome articles and I actually did not find any boring ones at all. Interface were superb and easy to use, music were terrific and the gfx pleasant as in all Brs productions. Keep em coming!
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 13:56:48 by M:ET M:ET
Excellent layout! As for the contents, there are some gems, some good reads and some fillers in this issue. Summa summarum: I really liked what I saw, listened to and read and I believe I can fall in love with this diskmag... I just need some more dates to find out about my true feelings ;D
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 14:07:05 by fishwave/scx fishwave/scx
Nice interface and content, but I can't help to think that it would be both faster and more readable if it was all done in Flash...
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 14:09:21 by kusma kusma
kusma, that's kind of what I thought aswell... Not to mention portable and more accessible.
pete, kusma: good idea! you should get right on it. :)
added on the 2008-03-03 14:31:25 by smash smash
smash: luckily, I don't have to :)
added on the 2008-03-03 14:33:26 by kusma kusma
well we had a discussion about this earlier on #ukscene and smash seemed quite enthusiastic about tatooing the articles on my back, backwards, so they can be read in a mirror, so let's see what happens!
truly fantastic - and the editorial style is just perfect!
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 18:13:43 by ruairi [rc55] ruairi [rc55]
parpete: \o/! go man go!
added on the 2008-03-03 18:20:21 by mrdoob mrdoob
wow, there is so much material in here. Zine 13 looks and sounds very professional, just like reading a printed magazine. The quality is one step above everything else.

This has been a good month for discmags, first with (probably the best) edition of hugi and now this.

Kudos to Axel for all his work, and also to the guys behind the pixels and music. And greetings to Aasemoon, our fan from Canada !!
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 20:56:50 by Navis Navis
Great articles, even better design!
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 22:32:06 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
great mag. thanks.
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 23:37:17 by Sir Sir
Finally had the chance the check it on another machine and it looks really really stylish!
rulez added on the 2008-03-04 08:16:51 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
My comments seem to have been said already. Looks and sounds good, the articles are interesting, some readability issues. And maybe I had some effects missing due to driver problems or I'm just stupid, but I saw no indication of whether there would be more subpages to an article or not. Oh well, found them by clicking anyway :)

Great work everybody! Other mags should go hide in shame (or even better, try to figure out how to beat you)
rulez added on the 2008-03-04 08:23:40 by break break
brief look at the layout tells me everything :>
rulez added on the 2008-03-04 11:15:33 by comankh comankh
excellent interface. don't change that usability.
rulez added on the 2008-03-04 16:57:28 by skrebbel skrebbel
Thanks everyone for all the kind comments and constructive criticism. We definitely won't change the usability in upcoming issues of ZINE, but we'll rather improve it. Like Smash put it at one point: Don't expect any revolution anymore, but rather an evolution. Another thing I've noticed is that most people who demand more articles state that they've only read "a few" so far, which I find disturbing.

Of course it would be neat to have more articles but someone needs to write them after all. :) So for now we'll stick to the dimensions of ZINE #13 but we're looking into possibilities of how to expand the scope and content of ZINE. We'll see...
added on the 2008-03-04 17:18:33 by Axel Axel
For cool design and customer support ;-)
rulez added on the 2008-03-04 17:34:57 by nystep nystep
O_o--b yipes
rulez added on the 2008-03-04 19:20:34 by aha aha
I felt amazed, which didn't happen to me - in regards to reading diskmags - in the last 10 or 15 years.
Cheers for that!
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 10:33:42 by noname noname
The best scene mag that i have ever read. I felt right at home with the GUI from the start as second nature, and the tunes aswell as articles are class selection. Keito your tune is fantastic, can i have the mp3 for the pod?
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 20:15:55 by NoahR NoahR
Iblis, thanks, and sure, just head over to my website and you can grab it from there :)
added on the 2008-03-05 20:19:27 by keito keito
Interface is a bit slow here but the content is great
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 20:30:12 by dairos dairos
bestest diskmag around!
rulez added on the 2008-03-05 20:41:55 by mentor mentor
cheers mate :)
added on the 2008-03-05 20:42:00 by NoahR NoahR
Quote:
<Steel_BRS> Uff, I better read Zine 13 before Breakpoint - I think Axel is going to give us a test, and the ones who fail buys the beer


Looks like some people know how to handle their men !!!
added on the 2008-03-05 23:39:53 by keops keops
Maybe it doesn't run on hardware being older than 8 years but else I like it! And yes, Axel knows how to handle his men. ;-)
added on the 2008-03-06 13:08:25 by ghandy ghandy
very well designed o/
rulez added on the 2008-03-06 18:20:54 by faraday faraday
ghandy: Yeah, sucky coders indeed. GeForce2 ought to be enough for anybody.
added on the 2008-03-06 18:50:06 by gloom gloom
gloom: watch what you say, it might end up on gulli!
added on the 2008-03-06 19:21:29 by Gargaj Gargaj
chill. :) Ghandy learnt his lesson I think :)
added on the 2008-03-06 20:45:16 by Axel Axel
the mother of all diskmags rocks again, thanks.
rulez added on the 2008-03-06 22:12:55 by decca decca
Awesome
rulez added on the 2008-03-08 19:18:56 by Pegan Pegan
a fine mag
rulez added on the 2008-03-09 08:51:19 by tempest tempest
Link for the online edition added. Due to technical problems a new website that gets closer to the visual experience of the ZINE magazine will follow a little later. You can now read all the articles of ZINE 13 online.
added on the 2008-03-13 16:44:34 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
Update: the online edition of ZINE 13 now features all the articles in PDF format in their original layout. So now all of you can get the exact same visual look. Happy reading on the toilet!
added on the 2008-03-17 16:57:17 by Axel Axel
okay now that the online edition is there, i still bought a new gfx card just to read zine! =)
and it's a woprthy read. really professional content and layout - thats how i always wanted a diskmag to be. congrats!
added on the 2008-03-17 17:31:23 by dipswitch dipswitch
\o/
thanks dipswitch, and I look forward to talking to you at BP. o/
added on the 2008-03-17 22:03:29 by Axel Axel
i'm speechless...
great layout, great articles and....
fabulous music by Keito (i love this track!!!)
rulez added on the 2008-03-18 06:12:11 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 12:33:34 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
For those interested in hunting down the original to Keito's tune, I'm almost positive that it's written by Django Reinhardt. Stephane Grappelli plays it on his album "Whispering Gypsy", calling it simply "Django".
added on the 2008-04-17 21:59:12 by runaro runaro
runaro: nice fine and completely correct, however i think i have the wrong name of the album , here mine is "The Rosenberg Trio - Gypsy Swing" , i have a feeling however that "Whispering Gypsy" is the correct title.
added on the 2008-04-17 22:09:59 by keito keito
Stephane Grappelli plays it on the violin. It's likely that the song itself is untitled, or was one of Django's "improvisations". Thanks for posting the name of that album, I'll be looking out for it.
added on the 2008-04-18 20:49:32 by runaro runaro
Here's an improv on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmpLtYmSlvM
added on the 2008-04-18 20:59:26 by runaro runaro
Bingo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(Modern_Jazz_Quartet_album)

The song was written by John Lewis, and it is in fact called "Django".
added on the 2008-04-18 21:05:50 by runaro runaro
axel, too bad we haven't talked at breakpoint after all. or have we? =)
anyway, hope to see you at evoke, and i'll try to make it to buenzli this year.
added on the 2008-04-18 21:17:33 by dipswitch dipswitch
dipswitch: no, unfortunately we haven't. :( I don't think I can make it to Evoke, but I'll definitely be at Buenzli. Would be fantastic to meet you there. Hope to catch you on IRC beforehand though. :-)
added on the 2008-04-22 10:47:45 by Axel Axel
A lot off nice things to read =)
rulez added on the 2008-05-13 19:43:56 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
thx
i'd never taken the time to read this issue til today, such a pity! the content, the interface, the ambiant tunes, such a bliss! THANKS GUYS :))
rulez added on the 2008-09-07 23:04:14 by Zest Zest
forgot to post that the new ZINE website is online finally: http://zine.bitfellas.org. You can't post comments to the articles yet though.
added on the 2008-09-10 18:39:55 by Axel Axel
yay onZine!
added on the 2008-09-10 18:53:12 by Gargaj Gargaj
nice!
Makes me wanna print this stuff to have some reading later on.
added on the 2008-10-22 13:01:05 by squezel squezel
squezel: you can. Follow the link to the online edition. There you'll find links to the pdf-version of the articles.
added on the 2008-10-22 20:48:02 by Axel Axel
Good articles, great music. I´m not that happy with the interface design, though
rulez added on the 2009-01-02 02:27:55 by T$ T$
Zine is :boobies: :)
rulez added on the 2010-02-21 15:31:56 by FishGuy876 FishGuy876
What TS said.
rulez added on the 2011-01-09 13:36:13 by harsh_noise harsh_noise
The articles about Keito and Zeila are nice. Layout and handling are great. All in all better than Zine #14.
rulez added on the 2012-08-15 16:50:21 by Adok Adok
Article, design/interface and sound wise the best scene mag ever made probably, at least the latter two.
rulez added on the 2013-07-24 18:46:20 by noby noby
(almost) everything was said. For the effort!!!
rulez added on the 2014-02-18 19:17:00 by sim sim
Those two songs by el bee , gloom and keito ......
rulez added on the 2016-05-29 14:49:05 by Omid Omid

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