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screenshot added by Gʀɪʍʍy on 2008-03-25 00:02:57
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release date : march 2008
release party : Breakpoint 2008
compo : amiga demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 97
  • is ok 18
  • sucks 6
popularity : 66%
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  • rulez 0.75
alltime top: #875
added on the 2008-03-24 23:02:25 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc

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Great ideas and style!
rulez added on the 2008-03-24 23:03:32 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Piggy until i have confirmation that at least something in here is realtime. Nice style, though.
added on the 2008-03-24 23:09:02 by xeron xeron
Excellent concept, even when it obviously uses animation/video. But at least it has a point here.
rulez added on the 2008-03-24 23:09:06 by Alpha C Alpha C
Cute, but I can imagine why they would want to give the prize to Elude..
rulez added on the 2008-03-24 23:12:45 by Preacher Preacher
Nice ideas
added on the 2008-03-24 23:21:11 by zefyros zefyros
What xeron said O_o
Cute idea, but definitely something for the Animation compo. Overall execution is so-so.
Even tho this demo certainly isn't bad, the name-voting at BP really gave me some pain in the stomach.
Nice move from drifters tho.
added on the 2008-03-25 00:11:14 by shock__ shock__
VERY enjoyable party prod! Just made me smile from start to end. :)

btw. Just because this wasn't as technically nice as Elude's, doesn't mean you didn't still deserve the prize! It's a "feel good" party winner, which is why it won!


rulez added on the 2008-03-25 00:15:33 by button button
Cute little prod and nice ideas. Fun to watch and that's what it is all about.
Kudos to Drifters for giving up their #1 (wise decision :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 00:18:11 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
not a party winner for me, but rather a nice anniversary thingie..
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 00:20:38 by toxie toxie
Lovely idea well executed
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 00:28:51 by Buckethead Buckethead
quite fun with a good concept, but not that good implementation. and where was the '88 mullet?
added on the 2008-03-25 00:30:23 by tempest tempest
Very enjoyable, the split-screen/era idea is cool.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 00:37:01 by bdk bdk
cool idea, but nothing special
added on the 2008-03-25 00:50:57 by Spewk Spewk
not my cup..
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 00:58:53 by chavez chavez
The split idea was great.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 02:07:37 by Optimus Optimus
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 02:34:42 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 04:00:28 by Clarence Clarence
Nice concept. thumbs up for the effort.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 04:56:00 by Frost Frost
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 07:50:40 by Mystra Mystra
I hope it's a joke production as it looks like you haven't got very far in 20 years
added on the 2008-03-25 09:14:48 by dairos dairos
xeron: What makes you think it isn't running in realtime? I didn't see any effect a '060 amiga can't handle in there. Sure it doesn't have one of those proprietary nvidia GPUs but none of the effects needed much horsepower.

Thumbs up for the nice idea + giving away the 1st price.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 09:20:50 by flynn_nrg flynn_nrg
how could this get first place?

this is not a bad demo. at least the part that actually -is- demo. over half is just an animation!

the splitscreen is a good idea and there are some effects which were common on 030 amiga demos.
just a hint: dot tunnels are not 1988, i think they are early 90's. and envmapped objects in tunnels were hot in 1998.

sorry for being such a bitch about it. the effects obviously are solid and well presented.
added on the 2008-03-25 09:36:26 by earx earx
yes!
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 09:39:06 by Zest Zest
Piggy until i have confirmation that at least something in here is realtime. Nice style, though.
added on the 2008-03-24 by xeron [xeron]

What xeron said O_o
added on the 2008-03-24 by burgrlovr [burgrlovr]

I am actually quite surprised that you as coders don't see that actually everything except the ham8 mpeg part (which is actually a part of the concept) is realtime here... (it even features a blitter scroll, how about that? ;D) yes, asmpro for the win... and yes, coded by yours truly.

earx: I do know that dot tunnels weren't made in '88 but what the hell, call it artistic freedom. ;)
added on the 2008-03-25 10:08:41 by StingRay StingRay
that was ham8? ok, cool :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 10:12:00 by earx earx
Sting0rz leet HAM8 output signal making capture equipment go "WTF!? no valid signal" :D
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 10:13:09 by d0DgE d0DgE
:D
added on the 2008-03-25 10:14:35 by StingRay StingRay
Music!
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 11:03:28 by Emod Emod
totally agree with Grimmy. It was fun to watch it.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 11:56:58 by DJBase DJBase
Indeed nice show, worked well on the big screen!
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 11:58:39 by Premium Premium
thumb for using HAM8 then.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 12:16:28 by shock__ shock__
respect guys. anyway, nice concept.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 12:26:39 by comankh comankh
nice concept but really didnt deserve to win. nice gesture at the prize giving, thats real scene spirit.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 12:45:52 by psenough psenough
@StingRay
OK, then it rules :D
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 12:47:28 by xeron xeron
...not to say that the "then" video scene is not vintage but reenacted material. As Clary told me they looked for a house/flat that matched the old living place ... that's dedication!
added on the 2008-03-25 12:51:14 by d0DgE d0DgE
i liked it a lot actually.. its safe to say thats it is the best drifters thing i have seen :)

kudos for showing very good sportsmanship at the awards ceremony too!
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 12:54:47 by nic0 nic0
I like the idea of the screen split very much and it's very well done.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 13:11:31 by Paranoid Paranoid
i really like the idea and as nic0 said: best drifters demo so far.
sting: you did a pretty good job! now some scarab code plzzzz =)))
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 13:11:57 by scicco scicco
Nice one and double thumbs up for prize"giving"
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 14:13:20 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
thumb up for the demo and extra thumb for the attitude at the price giving ceremony.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 14:19:02 by nytrik nytrik
Pure scene spirit at prize ceremony.
It was also nice to see you all !
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 14:27:31 by willbe willbe
Respect.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 14:41:33 by Serpent Serpent
scicco: your wish is my order, now that my a4k is finally back in action and I don't have to resort to fuckz0ring UAE for coding anymore I'll do something for the thing we spoke about at bp! :)

xeron: thanks =)
added on the 2008-03-25 14:47:58 by StingRay StingRay
Perhaps it did not contain as hardcore code than Soliloquy, but it was solid enough on the design and realisation department to deserve a good position in the compo :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 14:55:48 by Dbug Dbug
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 15:04:15 by wie8 wie8
So, it took you guys 20 years to do a polyfiller+envmap? ;)
added on the 2008-03-25 15:25:38 by mrdoob mrdoob
thumbs up for the idea, and for making the prizegiving fair.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 15:26:39 by mrdoob mrdoob
Quote:
So, it took you guys 20 years to do a polyfiller+envmap? ;)


maybe it took them 20 years to find someone who can do envmapping and polyfillers ;D

/me hides =)
added on the 2008-03-25 15:30:10 by StingRay StingRay
has good spirit and is well done.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 15:31:28 by dipswitch dipswitch
respect for clary (and the rest of the members too) for being such a fair person.
added on the 2008-03-25 15:41:26 by Ger Ger
Great!
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 15:45:21 by chromag chromag
Best drifters demo I have yet seen. I like the split screen idea very much, but the video at the beginning doesn't catch me. It's a good idea but it's looks pretty amateurish.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 15:58:16 by novel novel
@selectanovel: well, the video at the beginning may only catch people who did some swapping back in the days. Waiting for mister postman every morning or checking your mailbox 20 times a day, waiting for floppies full of new demos to watch or fanzines to read. That was fun :)
Oh crap! I feel old now!
no, this is not very good.
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 16:27:40 by Corial Corial
didnt catch me, piggy
added on the 2008-03-25 16:39:21 by Maali Maali
Typically Drifters. The idea is nice but an animation that lasts 50% of total time to start the demo is a bit too much. "back in 88" we just told that in an up-scroller.

I would thumb this up, but I have reasons for a piggy - so there.
added on the 2008-03-25 16:48:34 by franky-- franky--
Fuckings for not giving me credit for the GFX
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 16:50:24 by Kuroto Kuroto
fuckings for giving out fuckings without trying to clear up what happened first.

seriously, as already mentioned in the other thread where you had to send out your fuckings as well, the only reason why there's no .nfo yet is because the ascii is missing. as soon as it's finished, there'll be an .nfo and you'll be credited for your gfx of course.
added on the 2008-03-25 17:09:17 by StingRay StingRay
StingRay: Check the other thread.
added on the 2008-03-25 17:16:37 by Kuroto Kuroto
I did ;)
added on the 2008-03-25 17:26:23 by StingRay StingRay
That being said, nice demo, good idea.
added on the 2008-03-25 17:36:35 by Kuroto Kuroto
The only incident at breakpoint where I felt really bad was when the whole crowd were booing at their own votes.
I am just so damn happy that it was not me on that stage.
Big cudos to Drifters for handling the situation well.
I think it was a really nice 20th anniversary thingy with some nice ideas.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 17:49:32 by lemmus lemmus
This was an alternative approach of an Amiga demo.

When I first saw the movie-part I was quite suspecious, but as the 3.5" disks were in both streams I got the point ;)

Nice to see some effects, and a well-executed idea - but you know my favourite in this compo ;)
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 17:54:20 by Puryx Puryx
the effects wasn't all that nice, but the concept and design is worthy of a thumb
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 18:29:45 by thec thec
nice use of video in the beginning.
and alltogether a nice production.
happy 20years to you all. :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 18:43:28 by nosfe nosfe
i really liked it, but it's strange that it got the first place (probably ppl were too tired from all the hq 3d stuff? :D)
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 19:16:50 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
I respect a lot the nice gesture that they made during the prize ceremony.
By the way, I must say that I felt shocked when this demo won the compo instead of Elude's one, but I felt more shocked (and very embarrased) when some people starting to "booing" while Clary and Stingray where on the stage.

Anyway, this demo was enjoyable in the bigscreen. It has a few cute ideas and a good mood but the splitscreen was a little bit boring after a while.

Next time, just try to do not use too much video in your demo.
added on the 2008-03-25 19:18:10 by ham ham
what ham said
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 19:47:21 by Sir Sir
Because you're who y'all are (:
Great concept well executed. The concurrent videos handing over to concurrent effects is fantastic.
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 01:26:15 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
extremely overrated again. this could be shown in wild compo, as comparing to elude's production it looks like piece of shit.

get a life and stop faking votes!
sucks added on the 2008-03-26 10:22:01 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Thumbs up for still being alive as a group for 20 years.
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 10:28:38 by Zplex Zplex
Quote:

extremely overrated again. this could be shown in wild compo, as comparing to elude's production it looks like piece of shit.


Now, oh great and wise Azzaro, please tell me, what exactly does this make a wild demo? The fact that it has a video part? And while we all agree that the Elude demo was better I actually think, the only thing that's shitty here is your comment! It might be you who should get a life and stop talking BS.
added on the 2008-03-26 10:32:27 by StingRay StingRay
As we say in Denmark: "Shut up, and do a demo!" ;)
added on the 2008-03-26 10:39:50 by Puryx Puryx
Oh, and that was meant as a comment to Azzaro.
added on the 2008-03-26 10:43:34 by Puryx Puryx
I love the concept. Maybe the video on the start should have been a little shorter.
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 12:39:09 by xernobyl xernobyl
The video part is a bit too long but otherwise it's a solid demo, with a very good design! I don't understand why it brought about such a fuss.
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 12:49:21 by Rouquemoute Rouquemoute
i liked the idea and split screen design! nice work stingray
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 14:00:31 by MrVainSCL MrVainSCL
great style.
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 15:43:25 by v3nom v3nom
won fair and square. I like the concept and the movies in the first part. But i would have liked the effects to be more authentic... it get's boring that the only difference between 88 and 08 is wireframe contra texturemapping
added on the 2008-03-26 16:20:21 by Dalton Dalton
Fantastic idea, but not so well executed. I think a demo like this would be better suited to the PC where you can really contrast modern day effects with old ones.

Just a pig.
added on the 2008-03-26 16:49:33 by Wade Wade
I like this demo - it's fun.
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 18:06:08 by ubik ubik
should have won, oh wait... :D
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 18:13:23 by elkmoose elkmoose
The overall idea is nice though I found it a bit short when it came to the proper demo part. Birthdays are cool anyway :-)
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 23:50:22 by micdune micdune
fuckin' nice. I love it <3
rulez added on the 2008-03-27 02:02:31 by knoeki 🍼 knoeki 🍼
Wasn't too happy about seeing this win. Didn't enjoy it one bit really.
sucks added on the 2008-03-27 11:29:51 by dodke dodke
I feel i should explain about my initial comment.

I watched the compo on the stream, but when i saw the video part i thought it was probably going to be another all-animation drifters demo, and kind of only half paid attention for the rest of it. I didn't realise stingray had coded it, and i missed quite a lot of the effects.

I have nothing against drifters (the total opposite, i think they're great :-).

Can't seem to watch it on my a1200, though, seems my 40" bravia doesn't like the HAM8 mpeg player for some reason.
added on the 2008-03-27 12:13:58 by xeron xeron
Xeron: don't worry, I understood why you wrote your comment. ;) Anyway, what happens in the ham8 part?
added on the 2008-03-27 12:26:28 by StingRay StingRay
i like the split screen idea, but i am not very impressed by the execution
added on the 2008-03-27 12:38:14 by RA RA
@StingRay
It all goes dark and fuzzy, and the TV loses sync. Do you switch to 60Hz or do some crazy copper magic?
added on the 2008-03-27 14:46:23 by xeron xeron
Xeron: hmm, weird, no copper magic involved except for normal scanline doubling. You might have the same problem the video capturing hardware at BP had. ;) Once I'm back home I'll change the download link to a slightly modified version which could be captured. Might solve the problem for you too.
added on the 2008-03-27 15:05:18 by StingRay StingRay
cute demo ..

but can the polish (amiga sceners at least) nothing else but whine about not winning when they do something .. incredible .. all the posters around at bp were a joke, and not a funny one
rulez added on the 2008-03-27 15:10:05 by dwarf dwarf
Concept execution was quite fresh as an idea and I enjoyed it unlike most of the amiga compo entries in the compo. Shouldn't have won of course but greetings for giving out the place. :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-27 15:13:17 by waffle waffle
rulez added on the 2008-03-27 15:28:08 by blz blz
rulez added on the 2008-03-27 21:59:17 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
movie comparision,

greta techno music,

Then: wireframe 3D cubes,
Now: 3D texture mapped 3D cube,

Then: dots tunnel, 3D vectors filled
Now: texture mapped, plasma tunnel, texture mapped 3Ds,

Then: diskette picture, greetings
Now: CD picture, greetings

3D planets, then wireframe, now texture mapped
rulez added on the 2008-03-28 07:15:27 by BITS BITS
I like the idea a lot.
rulez added on the 2008-03-28 13:21:55 by Chaser Chaser
i really liked the idea...!
and i was really impressed by your step of giving away the first price...
even if it was a public choise... that shows repect of the others work...!
rulez added on the 2008-03-28 21:12:45 by ultra ultra
Great idea, great music, very nice effects!!!!
rulez added on the 2008-03-29 11:28:00 by wiseman wiseman
Thumb up for 20 years!

Cosy nostalgia trip :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-29 11:39:43 by loaderror loaderror
and ham8 video! we need more ham8! :)
added on the 2008-03-29 11:43:24 by loaderror loaderror
if anyone wants the soundtrack, it's here :) http://www.payne-music.net/songs/payne_drifters_twenty.ogg
added on the 2008-03-29 16:22:14 by payne payne
added it :)
added on the 2008-03-29 16:34:50 by StingRay StingRay
oh and an interesting fact. the whole second part of the music is done with the brain control 64k synth tunefish v2 :)
added on the 2008-03-29 16:40:57 by payne payne
"Typical" Drifters prod as it's again nothing special, but the good spirit of it compensates for that easily.

Happy 20th \o/
rulez added on the 2008-03-29 22:37:21 by kb_ kb_
Cheesy crap
sucks added on the 2008-04-02 17:24:23 by mg mg
Nice move from clary and the drifters. but I really enjoyed this one most... brings back good old memories!
rulez added on the 2008-04-02 21:04:47 by Virgill Virgill
in the beginning i was wondering what that video stuff is all about and then i got it and loved it instantly.. great idea with the splitscreen :)
rulez added on the 2008-04-07 22:31:19 by fiveofive fiveofive
Nice idea! congratz!
But where is lowlife in reminding the last 20 years ? :)
rulez added on the 2008-04-07 22:48:13 by magic magic
Loved it. Great concept, well-executed. :)
rulez added on the 2008-04-13 16:00:50 by wb wb
nice ideas in here! Keep em coming!
rulez added on the 2008-04-16 11:56:48 by Axel Axel
Like it! Fun to watch, and apparently good code as well!
rulez added on the 2008-04-17 19:46:40 by beavis77 beavis77
Stingray: The ham-problem may sound a bit like a problem we had with DeepPan.
Perhaps you by mistake have set the SOG-bit in the HAM part?
Some monitors don't care, while others get confused and looses sync.
added on the 2008-04-23 13:25:55 by lemmus lemmus
lemmus: I don't exactly know what the cause of the problem is, as I had no possibility to reproduce the bug at BP, I just gave 3 versions to the organiser, each with a slightly modified copperlist. One of them apparently was working correctly and could be captured (the very same version fixed the problem for Xeron too), I just didn't bother to check what I actually changed in the copperlist yet. ;)
added on the 2008-04-23 14:06:48 by StingRay StingRay
Ok. I guess the problem is the SOGEN bit
in BPLCON2 - that signals the sync signal to be added to the green signal.
added on the 2008-04-24 00:59:14 by lemmus lemmus
Neat production, as usual from Drifters, but it's doesn't REALLY get me going, though....
Congratz on the anniversary anyway and respect for handing over the 1st prize to Elude - an admirable gesture!
i liked this ;)
rulez added on the 2008-05-11 00:46:31 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
great style. :D
rulez added on the 2008-05-16 03:24:25 by [HamsTeR] [HamsTeR]
i found the first part a bit long
otherwise really great
Ehm video link not working. I saw it on BP and ... kudos x miglia :)
rulez added on the 2008-07-19 02:00:12 by Photon Photon
great
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 21:22:26 by spritus spritus
Nice
rulez added on the 2008-09-26 00:09:21 by keops keops
20 years, the comparison of back then vs now, the music.. it made me quite emotional! Nice job.
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 13:31:06 by neoneye neoneye
another one becomes 20 years... =)

well nice turn from the drifters to give the price to the "true" winner. maybe its time to think about "voting systems on parties etc..."

apart from this, keep on your good mood and go for the next 20 years. ;-)
rulez added on the 2008-10-21 11:46:58 by AMItac_TSA AMItac_TSA
happy 20 years to the coolest Amiga crew I have met ! (and by the way, nice idea !)
rulez added on the 2008-10-25 10:40:15 by Shazz^TRSi^MJJ Shazz^TRSi^MJJ
Great concept. There is no real evolution ;).
rulez added on the 2009-01-09 19:37:22 by ChrisTOS ChrisTOS
have not thumbed?
added on the 2009-01-09 19:43:20 by gentleman gentleman
thumbup! very nice stuff! :)
rulez added on the 2009-01-09 19:49:31 by gentleman gentleman
Original idea! However I'm not a fan of pop-trance music, adpcm no less. Should have been a lot better with something more electro wise. But that's just me. Good work boys.
rulez added on the 2009-02-21 01:02:45 by fxmj4598fj4598fj fxmj4598fj4598fj
OK demo, but not so amazing as everybody says (I am sorry, it shouldn't have win the BP08).
added on the 2010-01-09 16:31:33 by jack-3d jack-3d
like the music but it's not a prod that I'll watch again.
added on the 2010-01-24 21:50:32 by wayne wayne
<3
rulez added on the 2010-03-14 18:50:20 by zauberstab zauberstab
Best I've seen in a long while.
rulez added on the 2010-04-05 22:43:55 by zaz_dc zaz_dc
OF COURSE !
rulez added on the 2010-04-05 22:46:39 by relias abardon relias abardon
Funny idea! :)
rulez added on the 2011-03-31 22:29:59 by baah baah
love
rulez added on the 2011-03-31 22:45:58 by alk alk
Very good demo, fresh and entertaining.
rulez added on the 2011-08-18 11:11:05 by sim sim
Kool idea, and kool demo.
But can't belive it won? Namevoting fow showe.
rulez added on the 2011-09-28 23:27:56 by tFt tFt
Cool :)
rulez added on the 2013-11-30 15:39:08 by kjb kjb
Very nice idea!
rulez added on the 2013-11-30 17:33:20 by Flops Flops
Cool idea and the music mid way threw is just superb!
rulez added on the 2014-03-12 20:31:23 by RDS RDS
Great idea!!
rulez added on the 2014-04-18 20:51:16 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
Very nice idea as a demo - I like the effects and I think decoding video on a 060 in ham8 is no small feat regarding that the complete demo size is only 16MB
rulez added on the 2014-04-23 23:31:22 by insane insane
nice idea with the split screen. and what a lovely tune :)
rulez added on the 2015-02-01 00:15:49 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Lovely concept and great execution! Music is a bit bland though.
rulez added on the 2015-05-06 11:03:18 by Kylearan Kylearan
like the parallel video idea and the credits part, but middle part is painful to watch.
added on the 2015-05-06 16:16:57 by bonefish bonefish
Nice concept!
rulez added on the 2017-09-07 18:02:35 by exocet exocet

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