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Showtime 18 by Scoopex [web] & Ram Jam [web]
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added on the 2008-09-15 23:44:46 by Sir Sir

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I don't really see the relevancy of charts to be honest (might've been useful in teh old dayz, I wouldn't know, I wasn't there then ;), and apart from that this is pretty low on content. Some nice graphics though, but that doesn't really save it from being, well, basically empty apart from the editorial, those charts and what is essentially a copy of the pouet "latest prods" list filtered by platform :)
added on the 2008-09-15 23:55:36 by stijn stijn
Okay, disregard that, I completely forgot about the possibility to scroll in the main menu :D

*feels stupid*
added on the 2008-09-15 23:57:13 by stijn stijn
ok, here we are.

after weeks of writing and discussing and proofreading and polishing we now here have a prod, which WE are proud of.

We did NOT reinvent the wheel of course; porting a once famous AMIGA-based mag to the PC is not only a trend disliked by many, but also a loss of credidibility or innocence maybe; at least AMIGA-wise, as some might consider.

We tried to feature both worlds though, there are AMIGA-related articles as well as stuff concerning PC-Demos. .....

And NO: we are not part of that "AAAAMIIIIGAAAAAAA RUUUUUULZZZZZ, PEEECEEEEEE sucks"-legion, as you hopefully might know. So this prod is not thought to pull off another newschool vs. oldschool discussion :)

Personally, I would like to thank first everybody involved in this, everyone was helpful and anxious to get this done; more than that I will thank especially maxon, pantaloon and louie for their kind support, that was the most important experience during doing this.

if you find typos, they are there on purpose.

please post ANY feedback here, we will take everything in consideration for the next issue. feel free to contact us if you wanna support us for further issues (of Showtime ;)

and yes, that tongue is real.

;)

regards, respect and love to the scene
sir for the showtime staff

PS: Congrats Magic, "Best Spandimerda" is something one has to EARN really. Good Job! ;)
added on the 2008-09-16 00:03:32 by Sir Sir
well, it aint a zine but well, it has a few interesting reads here and there..
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 00:09:53 by XMaali XMaali
You guys should drop the scene charts and only keep and increase the alternative ones, they're really too embarrassing. And the news are more a summary of the year than anything else. Nice tunes, nice gfx.
added on the 2008-09-16 00:16:58 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
quite decent. :)
some silly features in the pc charts are skewing the results for lb and debris..
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 00:18:12 by psenough psenough
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You guys should drop the scene charts and only keep and increase the alternative ones, they're really too embarrassing. And the news are more a summary of the year than anything else.


yeah
the news are there for completeness, although we know that bitfellas and pouet cover everything of importance anyway.

the charts were a first attempt for this issue, we will reconsider the categories and try to adopt everything we got to know while doing this.
added on the 2008-09-16 00:26:14 by Sir Sir
omg...
- credidibility
+ credibility
added on the 2008-09-16 00:28:24 by Sir Sir
You used the non-final preview version of my tune :( ..but we wont have that discussion here.

On the whole, nice to see you back guys, great start, gorgeous gfx, and i'm sure next issue will naturaly evolve with more content etc, congrats :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 00:42:07 by keito keito
how the hell did the votes end up as all multiplies of 11?! :D
added on the 2008-09-16 00:46:37 by Gargaj Gargaj
It's a good read so far.
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 00:58:16 by Alpha C Alpha C
I dont know what to think now :) Amazingingly amiga'ish ;) Feels like reading an amiga magazine from the 90's on a pc! Love it :) This is what the scene needs now.. Showtime!!!!!!
Looking forward on how showtime evolves further on.. great ! great ! I am happy as a young child :) Respects to RJ+SCX !
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 01:00:43 by magic magic
p.s. Sir, you mean best pc article writer ;)
added on the 2008-09-16 01:01:54 by magic magic
Magic: there were no fakevotes involved, so you can be proud of it.
BUT: let me tell you one thing:

If it ain´t Dutch, it ain´t Quatsch.
added on the 2008-09-16 01:13:50 by Sir Sir
"Phoenix edition" - aw sweet, just for me!

The charts were weird.. some entries had groups, some didn't, and it looks like all the points were multiplied by 11. Also tried changing the music during the charts but it kept changing back. Then, most of the scene news was "X: released Y". Hmm.. kudos for releasing something but.. needs work.
added on the 2008-09-16 01:40:55 by phoenix phoenix
+ Great tunes and graphics! (excellent quality!)
- The charts are pure crap (yes, pure crap)
- The Amiga news are incomplete (yes, you have omit very important facts)
+ Some articles, very few, are not bad at all.

Totally dissapointed. It deserved a thumb down but, as I respect the work of graphicians, coders and musician, my thumb will don't be down this time. For the moment!
added on the 2008-09-16 01:55:00 by ham ham
Nostalgic feelings here! Good job everywhere, especially music and gfx kick ass!
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 02:37:38 by Bobic Bobic
Extremely high production values in terms of graphics and music. Very good work!

I'm not going to criticize the charts or articles this issue because a mag like this needs time to evolve and gather more support/voters. But it has incredible potential with veterans like Fishwave and Kaosmaster involved so I will be hoping for a lot more content next time. :)

I did love the unusual trip article. I'm sure I swapped one or two of those disks myself at one time!
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 02:42:11 by Wade Wade
some pretty graphics and music in there.
will give it a closer look before judging...
well its a chart not a musicdisk or a slideshow..
awesome gfx and tunes :D
needs. more. articles.
and just 2 corrections...
Euskal party is over long ago :P
(and don't forget to come to...) Inercia Demoparty date changed to 3-5 october 2008 :)

rulez added on the 2008-09-16 04:57:30 by EviL EviL
Nice to see good old showtime back on track! :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 07:07:51 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
Some very nice gfx and tunes, layout and gui could be better but are working. Unusual trip was very nice indeed :)

Needs a lot of work and the charts are ... but nice to see this anyway :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 07:20:37 by Serpent Serpent
Nice!! Doom GFX \o/ ....
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 07:22:45 by Premium Premium
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In 1993, at one year of his settlement in the States, Strider takes an important decision. He quits FLT and signs the end of a long leading career in the cracking scene. A short while after his departure an amount of FLT members get arrested, by Operation FastLink


Either I'm not getting the joke or this is the most retarded thing I've ever read. Operation FastLink was in 2004 so that's 11 years after he quit. If the article's year of 1993 is accurate..

Well "a short while" is a very relative amount of time of course..

Also when the language is of this quality maybe you shouldn't say how you've spent weeks "writing and discussing and proofreading and polishing". Admittedly the Strider article put me off reading anything more from the mag, maybe the other articles were considerably better. I'll never know.
sucks added on the 2008-09-16 08:45:40 by Sverker Sverker
hehe.... magic topping the spandimerda charts, who would have guessed that? :D
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 09:08:32 by chromag chromag
badly put together, mediocre writing, many articles are out of date, the seemingly random mixture of (ugly) fonts makes reading a pain, and worst of all, the charts are absolutely meaningless - i mean, 28 voters, of whom at most 10 still actively produce demos? incorrect information for the demozone article, incorrect votecounting (lb should've won, he's in there twice and the secret has been out for years), etcetera.

don't get me wrong, more mags is cool and it's good that you're starting this up again, but the whole effort seems pretty careless and thrown together to me. sorry guys..
sucks added on the 2008-09-16 14:06:58 by skrebbel skrebbel
gotta agree with skrebbel here... the info on demozone seems to be copypasted from the 2006 infofile, it is totally incorrect for this year's edition. i enjoy a lot of the graphics and music, but not even checking if you copypasted the right article... that's just poor, sorry.
sucks added on the 2008-09-16 14:48:55 by havoc havoc
I cant run it, but the screenshot picture rules, so here's the thumb.
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 14:57:29 by evil evil
i enjoyed the spandimagic charts!
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 16:42:43 by mop mop
YES! o/
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 16:55:09 by soolta soolta
Looks like a good start.. hope you'll get more support/votes for #19. More tagged disks next time please! ;)
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 17:04:06 by can can
Showtime is back! \o/
Great graphics and music. The design and quality of contenst could be better though.
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 19:44:31 by Mystra Mystra
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 19:58:25 by Buckethead Buckethead
Worse then Hugi
sucks added on the 2008-09-16 20:08:18 by Zplex Zplex
Great gfx and music and many nice ideas where I see much potential... We all know that the charts have to been overworked and that far more voters will be necessary... Nevertheless I like the idea and see that the involved sceners in this project have fun to do it... So it could only get better hopefully... Time will tell for upcoming issues... Finally thumb up for your efforts in bringing Showtime back.
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 20:15:06 by s7ing^ATZ s7ing^ATZ
HUGI has a new name \o/
sucks added on the 2008-09-16 20:23:05 by elkmoose elkmoose
A surprisingly engaging read, despite the sometimes sluggish english. I'm sure that will improve over time. Already looking forward to #19.

Best bits: The floppy disks and Keito's track. Pure magic.
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 20:38:01 by menace menace
thanks wade for voting me at the charts :P
added on the 2008-09-16 20:46:38 by uns3en_ uns3en_
yes! keep it up!
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 21:10:39 by _docd _docd
The release of diskmags these days are allways worth a thumb. I not for the conten then for the effort of putting things like this together with minimal support for the mag-scene. Keep it up!
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 21:39:03 by Frost Frost
After reading the whole thing, I got to agree with skrebbel. It's seriously lacking in the copy editing department.
sucks added on the 2008-09-16 21:39:55 by stijn stijn
suprisingly bad (after menace made me think it was going to be okay)
sucks added on the 2008-09-16 21:45:37 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
Please consider making "no music" option in music menu global. Now it starts music again if i change the section (nice surprise if you cant change volume from full screen)
added on the 2008-09-16 21:47:31 by Rebb Rebb
the diskmag was pure pleasure to read. in my opinion not so much articles but those inside are well selected and i liked also the music gfx and style of this mag. sadly failed to extract this to my amiga disk this time but apart from this ;-) its good stuff.

BB Image gfx
BB Image sound
BB Image layout
BB Imagecontent
BB Image charts

rulez added on the 2008-09-16 23:22:16 by AMI_TRS AMI_TRS
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thanks wade for voting me at the charts :P


Best musician? Graphician? Coder? Hmmm...I can't remember what it is you do, but I'm sure you deserved the vote. :)
added on the 2008-09-17 00:17:32 by Wade Wade
Quote:
More tagged disks next time please! ;)

Good idea ;)
Maybe anyone who still has them at home can send us scans or photos, and this could become a regular feature :)
added on the 2008-09-17 08:59:33 by Sir Sir
Sir: what about other stuff, like scans of

- old paper vote sheets
- Letters
- Group Stickers
- 5,25 floppy's

;-)
added on the 2008-09-17 11:36:44 by magic magic
good efforts guys, keep going! Totally great graphics and music!
rulez added on the 2008-09-17 17:34:57 by Axel Axel
i hope there will be special charts for wade in future. like "the scene most special people with extraordinary skills" 1. wade 2.wade 3.wade :) no just joking. magazine was ... okay in my books. actually i felt like i could draw you cliparts :)
added on the 2008-09-17 18:01:38 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Really great gfx and music. Kinda uninteresting articles.
rulez added on the 2008-09-17 18:37:27 by Optimus Optimus
Interviewing Maxon saved you a piggy. Otherwise too low on content quality
added on the 2008-09-17 18:50:32 by Warhead Warhead
What sxrebbel said, but great gfx and music, I'm totally in love with "demoscene pirates".

Btw, is there a way to extract the tracks from the .dat file or to download them ?
rulez added on the 2008-09-17 23:04:48 by wullon wullon
wullon, download the tracks by Mr.Death here:

Demoscene Pirates
Book of Dreams
added on the 2008-09-17 23:26:04 by Sir Sir
lol, sgny! :D
added on the 2008-09-17 23:31:25 by Puryx Puryx
SIR>thanks !
added on the 2008-09-17 23:39:30 by wullon wullon
Could have been way better. Navigation is a pain. Nice design tho.
rulez added on the 2008-09-18 00:30:15 by iks iks
I found the navigation a doddle, and I'm drunk!

Hugi rocks ofc. Anyway, a decent first issue. Needs more opinion articles and 'how to make terrorist bombs with condoms, diet coke and mentos' and 'how to dial the Pope for free' type articles, if you know what I mean ;)

Just kidding, but yeah, more articles relevant to our way of life.

Mags chronicle what happened when for a select group of maniacs. Make no mistake, the real world does not care about this and have no staff bothering to write about it.

Charts show who is popular for a certain period. If enough people in the know vote, the charts come close to being representative of the quality of releases. Check for example the PC demo group and PC demo charts. They are maybe not perfect, but not way off either, imo. :)

Grats Stingray \o/ I know you rocked before the charts tho ;)

We all do scene stuff for free in our spare time. If someone smiles from seeing their name in a top ten list, it's a good reward I think :)

So, no excuse left. If you think some other scener deserves to smile, give your votes for issue 19!
rulez added on the 2008-09-20 02:53:15 by Photon Photon
rulez added on the 2008-09-21 21:49:05 by #535 #535
Cool..
rulez added on the 2008-09-23 01:00:38 by aquaman aquaman
Quote:
some silly features in the pc charts are skewing the results for lb and debris.

fixed. we apologize.
(sorry, Chromag ;)
added on the 2008-09-24 21:44:58 by Sir Sir
btw, the Wild slideshow is released by anadune & nah-kolor (not only anadune)
added on the 2008-09-27 09:30:17 by magic magic
Really kool to see Showtime back on track.
The floppy disks "slideshow" made the prod for me :) Seeing the bad sloppy handwriting of Splatterhead brought back memories ;)

But seriously, PLEASE! Can people STOP VOTING FOR LIZARDKING. He is long gone. And never even was any good musican in the first place. Thank you.
rulez added on the 2008-09-28 12:42:53 by tFt tFt
Btw, regarding the charts....maybe its time to combine the Amiga and PC charts more.
F.i having a common vote for:
-Graphican
-Musican
-Editor/Article Writer
Even Diskmag, since there arent that many, and they arent that Platform divided as Demos and intros.

With less categories, I think more people will vote. And you get more votes per category.
added on the 2008-09-28 12:50:26 by tFt tFt
tFt: that is exactly what already has been decided for the next issue :) you are damn right.
added on the 2008-09-28 14:36:44 by Sir Sir
hooray!
added on the 2008-09-28 14:38:59 by chromag chromag
Some errors (specially in charts), but a nice "start" anyway.
rulez added on the 2008-10-03 01:52:03 by Maissi Maissi
well...
added on the 2008-11-08 01:51:50 by Bhl! Bhl!
nope
sucks added on the 2009-02-07 02:37:49 by cryer cryer
escond maissi here
rulez added on the 2009-03-27 17:55:34 by bumble-bee bumble-bee
@authors:
As i read in diskmag, you want to port it to AmigaOS. So, i can help with port to amigaos4. I contacted already with Sir, but he said he "out of busines, and you need talk to others". And message was sended to other also, but no answers from. So, i write here: if coder of this issue in interest to port it to amiga , i can help with it. Just write me at kas1e blabla yandex.ru, or just put your mail here. Thanks.
added on the 2009-06-25 12:16:57 by kas1e kas1e
This production is an ode to bad taste. Just to be sure, I read, took me less than 5 minutes to understand the articles is not structured and the syntax is weak. Better than my english for sure, but we could expect more from a zine.
sucks added on the 2015-08-13 11:25:01 by Nori Nori
For the editing.
sucks added on the 2016-01-31 14:57:22 by Baudsurfer Baudsurfer
shameful selfvote
sucks added on the 2016-11-16 17:34:09 by Sir Sir

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