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Walking in circles by Ada
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screenshot added by friol on 2009-04-12 11:43:17
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release date : april 2009
release party : Breakpoint 2009
compo : amiga 64k
ranked : 3rd
  • rulez 49
  • is ok 11
  • sucks 5
popularity : 0%
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  • rulez 0.68
alltime top: #2764
  • z5 z5 [Code, graphics]
  • esau esau [Music]
added on the 2009-04-12 11:02:26 by z5 z5

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Judging by what i remember from the stream, the intro didn't behave nicely on the compo machine... Anyhow, still very much a learning experience.
added on the 2009-04-12 11:04:43 by z5 z5
Simple but nice.
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:05:34 by Optimus Optimus
Very awesome!
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:10:58 by Agilo Agilo
stylish
added on the 2009-04-12 11:17:06 by EviL EviL
Curse my poor posting skills..... Thumb!
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:17:24 by the-other-pigpen the-other-pigpen
...and the thumb
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:17:27 by EviL EviL
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:18:01 by Cj Cj
Simplicity that works.
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:18:22 by tomaes tomaes
:)
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:22:32 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Loved it! The music is fantastic!
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 11:49:41 by -SP- -SP-
...too simple in my taste, but no crap. Piggy.
added on the 2009-04-12 11:52:00 by vscd vscd
design
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 12:23:26 by las las
Perfect execution, great zik
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 12:25:44 by evil evil
this looked great
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 12:26:17 by stijn stijn
I like it :)
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 13:25:08 by SoDa7 SoDa7
Great execution but i still don't see why you need AGA machines for such simple things ;D
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 13:29:07 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
I like circles.
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 13:37:29 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
Cute ^^
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 14:11:08 by stage7 stage7
Totally cool
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 15:07:34 by keops keops
Great to see z5 releasing stuff!
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 15:32:42 by xeron xeron
Good use of circles, great design!
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 18:56:39 by Zener Zener
what hitch said
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 19:15:49 by prm prm
@hitchhikr: i'm aware that this could easily have been done on a A500. I hope to get the hardware requirements down with more coding experience though (either that or actually make demos that really need aga).
added on the 2009-04-12 19:25:57 by z5 z5
Not bad prod. Nice music and concept.
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 20:15:27 by mailman mailman
thumb for design
rulez added on the 2009-04-12 21:56:40 by comankh comankh
Damn sexy design!
rulez added on the 2009-04-13 00:19:41 by Corial Corial
not as good as your first prod, but still ace! you have 100% design power!
rulez added on the 2009-04-13 03:53:37 by Bobic Bobic
crap
sucks added on the 2009-04-13 04:06:32 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
ADA did it again!
YouTube for you.
rulez added on the 2009-04-13 10:39:22 by Manwe Manwe
Pretty nice! Is it supposed to update every 2:nd frame? Did so on my 060/60
rulez added on the 2009-04-13 10:46:14 by Emod Emod
@emod: what do you mean? I've got the impression that the intro (and my code) is really buggy. The problem is that it runs as intended on all the hardware that i have (winuae, 030 and 060) so it's hard to determine what exactly is going on here.
added on the 2009-04-13 10:50:20 by z5 z5
@z5: I mean it's a 25Hz demo for me @ the real thing. Still, it's pretty nice!
added on the 2009-04-13 11:02:07 by Emod Emod
rulez!!!!!!!
rulez added on the 2009-04-13 11:03:08 by Premium Premium
Cute!
rulez added on the 2009-04-13 11:07:40 by Frost Frost
Totally boring!
And why did you need AGA for this? Could be easily done on every A500...
added on the 2009-04-13 11:10:17 by RA RA
ok
added on the 2009-04-13 18:10:25 by zefyros zefyros
forgot to vote...
sucks added on the 2009-04-13 22:19:13 by RA RA
A round release and even before 2012 :)
The compo machine was an overclocked 060.
I didn't see any misbehavior ... will rewatch it as soon as my miggy ist re-set up.

excellent colour choice & tune, again.
rulez added on the 2009-04-13 22:46:58 by d0DgE d0DgE
hm...
added on the 2009-04-14 01:14:56 by T$ T$
Cute.
rulez added on the 2009-04-14 13:43:18 by neglesaks neglesaks
Quote:

Could be easily done on every A500...

...then step into the circle and do it.
you know, talk is cheap! It's his second release FFS.
added on the 2009-04-14 13:46:54 by d0DgE d0DgE
nice design but boring overall.
added on the 2009-04-14 20:55:46 by Sir Sir
Z5: crap, you're coding demos now? Crap I suck.

You rule. Seriously. There are some clever ideas in this...
nice circles! Music is not so good although...
rulez added on the 2009-04-14 21:01:59 by dimouse dimouse
I found this VERY entertaining on the bigscreen. Nice design and execution, when the end part appeared I couldn't help but smile, these walking things are too cool! :) Some minor visual bugs on my A4k tho, some parts flicker a bit and there's some trash on screen. Still a very nice intro, I enjoyed it a lot! :)
rulez added on the 2009-04-14 21:15:10 by StingRay StingRay
@stingray: the flicker and trash on screen ( i assume in the greetings part) was also in the compo video. Since i never ever encountered any of those problems on any machine i tested it on, i would definately like to know the cause. Otherwise, i'll be stuck with the same crap demosystem forever and ever.

@truck :) my first intro was released after 20 years of dreaming so it's never too late. Get going :)
added on the 2009-04-14 21:20:29 by z5 z5
After so many people commenting here, it's time for me to tell you what I think about this little intro.

The music is an ok chiptune, a bit repetitive but very well composed. Nice arpeggios.
The rest is almost totally crappy, in my infallible opinion.

First effect: 34 seconds

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-ADA logo with colouring circles revolving around.

All is centered and the screen is divided vertically at the center of the screen.
That concentrical mania leads the human and superhuman minds to sleep and, in my undisputable opinion, should always be avoided.

Second effect: 30 seconds

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-Circles centered, circles inside circles, credits.

This is the less boring part to me and, maybe, to you. I like the colors in this effect.
I think that this part is the less boring ONLY because it has more rapid changes (the credits).
What do you think?

Third effect: 48 seconds

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-Circles moving and sinusoidal spirals (and also flags) than changes a little from time to time.

The excessive duration and boredom of this part is compensated a little bit by the good mood of the music.
Yes, this part is boring as hell in my relentless opinion.

Fourth effect: 30 seconds

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-Circles, greetings, horrible glitches that, apparently, are easily forgiven by the masses.

Seems to me, in my equitable opinion, that this part has a bad choice of colors. I explain, is red but is not calid.
But the colors are not bad at all because the fact that there are some greetings to a few unactive groups is outrageous!
Greetings must be delivered (preferably) only to people who are recently and constantly active in the scene and not to friends or people who maked great stuff lots of years ago.
That could leads Skarla or Potion to move their asses!

Fifth effect: 18 seconds

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-2D "walk" of the circle things, horizontal exact division of the screen.
"The End" message at the end of the intro. Very important information!

Summarizing:

Static simple backgrounds with simple graphics, less than 5% of the pixels on the screen are actually "alive and moving".
Boring and minimal effects that would be "OK" in 1990.
Few scenes, only 5 in more than 2 minutes and 40 seconds. And what a static and quiescent scenes!
It fits on 40k, but could be done in 4k and in ECS. And maybe even in EPSON, but I'm not entirely sure.
This is my respectable opinion, you may have a different one, but remember that my open-minded opinion is always unbiased, impartial and disinterested (like yours, I hope) and is also of someone who make also intros (like a few of you), and not only opinions.
And I am sure that Z5 will improve his kung-fu beyond these circular movements and eventualy will manage to release great stuff! So, Z5, continue coding and make more stuff!

Conclusion:

Maybe some people can be hypnotized easier than I could figure. I should study this cheap hypnotic tricks because it could save months of hard work to me.
The fact that this simple thing could managed to achieve a 3rd rank at breakpoint and more than 30 thumbs up here in one day, with almost no criticism, is something that seems, in this perplexed moment, mostly unexplainable to me, in my omniscient opinion.
added on the 2009-04-15 12:10:11 by ham ham
I smell some bitterness here. ;) I am not sure that you are really unbiased as it sounds a lot like "damn, this didn't deserve 3rd place, my intro should have been ranked 3rd". While I agree with some of your arguments I still think this intro is entertaining. Yes, I gave some "bonus points" because it's Z5's 2nd intro, but still, it's an entertaining little piece of work. Instead of being bitter, just start a new intro and be happy, it's not the end of the world to lose against an intro which you may consider poor you know. :) That's just my highly unbiased opinion. ;)
added on the 2009-04-15 12:18:27 by StingRay StingRay
@StingRay: Why do you think that I believe that my intro deserved only the 3rd place? I don't like 3rd places more than 4th! ;)
And, more outrageously... Why do you thing that I did not already started my next production? :D

Anyway, I'm very happy because the party was awesome! Cheers!
added on the 2009-04-15 12:32:42 by ham ham
Your whole comment sounded a little bit too harsh IMHO, I wonder if you would have written the same things if your intro would have been ranked higher. Just keep in mind he's still learning.
Anyway, I know (or hope) that you're working on some new stuff already. See you again at next BP :)
added on the 2009-04-15 13:20:11 by StingRay StingRay
Liked it.
rulez added on the 2009-04-15 13:24:56 by raer raer
Besides, for many people, it's not about the technical stuff but about the style. And this one has plenty of style.
rulez added on the 2009-04-15 16:48:06 by Preacher Preacher
yes it has style, the rest - hmmm...
added on the 2009-04-15 17:45:04 by Alpha C Alpha C
It somehow reminds me of small BBS-intros from mid 90s.. Neat, but nothing great.
added on the 2009-04-15 22:57:54 by arcane arcane
happy chiptune!
walking in circles (but the way goes up?!) :)
rulez added on the 2009-04-16 11:21:41 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
awesome chiptune and oldschool style. must be done on c64.
rulez added on the 2009-04-18 08:44:44 by diver diver
awesome!
rulez added on the 2009-04-18 21:40:00 by wiseman wiseman
I like your style
rulez added on the 2009-04-21 16:45:08 by noby noby
Entertaining and neat! Like the chiptune! Up!
rulez added on the 2009-04-27 13:34:37 by Dano Dano
Nice and simple
rulez added on the 2009-05-05 19:18:47 by Maissi Maissi
simple and nice
rulez added on the 2009-05-27 15:04:15 by fiveofive fiveofive
I was expecting a little bit more for a second release. Hope you'll put somethin' more in your next one. Keep it goin' don't stop.)
rulez added on the 2009-08-18 19:13:22 by wayne wayne
ok effects, and very annoying music.
added on the 2010-01-12 09:07:36 by teo teo
I don't get it.
Why does this even need a c2p routine?? I'm very unhappy with the code.

Motivational thumb down :)
sucks added on the 2010-03-16 12:36:05 by PCP PCP
If my comment sounded harsh or offensive, my apologies :)
Looking forward to see yr future productions, z5 !!
added on the 2010-03-17 12:58:41 by PCP PCP
Coming back full circle to shit.
sucks added on the 2010-03-31 03:31:59 by zoolum zoolum
Cute little production I very much enjoyed.
rulez added on the 2010-05-07 23:03:42 by aizen aizen
Oh yes I remember this prod last year. I like the overall design.
rulez added on the 2010-09-14 14:18:08 by jack-3d jack-3d
A somewhat late reply for Ham: you will be happy to know that you will never have to compete with this crappy ada group in the future. I like feedback of all kinds, good or bad, but the way you phrased it was pretty low though. Not the nicest way to make the few newcomers in the amiga scene feel welcome...
sucks added on the 2010-09-20 22:03:44 by z5 z5
@z5
Oh ok, so I won't waste a motivational thumb here... ;)
Naaah, another little thumb can push you back to action... dunno, a fucktro for that zoolamer? ;P
rulez added on the 2010-09-20 22:36:07 by skan skan
very nice
rulez added on the 2012-01-05 14:45:58 by nhi nhi
Wow, what has been going on in here? Seems like I missed some nice action years ago. The intro is cute, but nothing to write home about.

But Ham, how brave of you to piss all over a newcomer whose intro was ranked higher than yours (maybe for a reason?). This really makes you look like a prick. Congratulations!
added on the 2013-04-28 17:17:15 by noname noname
Cute, stylish and nice :) Love it.
rulez added on the 2014-04-08 12:43:34 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
Some simple but playful ideas :) but again the wrong framework for those ideas. It's simply the case that people watch this at home and expect it to run (full framerate) on an A500 from the effects shown.
added on the 2014-09-16 00:46:08 by Photon Photon
Extraordinary minimalist design. The music is not my cup of tea but matches to the effects.
rulez added on the 2015-07-23 22:04:29 by dissident dissident
Catchy tune, funny things on screen...
rulez added on the 2015-07-23 23:36:30 by lvd lvd

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