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The Epson HX-20 Demo by Chainsaw
screenshot added by Chainsaw on 2009-08-16 02:07:40
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release date : august 2009
release party : Buenzli 2009
compo : alternative demo
ranked : 3rd
  • rulez 15
  • is ok 17
  • sucks 12
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added on the 2009-08-16 02:07:40 by Chainsaw Chainsaw

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the platform sucks, the demo sucks
sucks added on the 2009-08-16 02:08:37 by dairos dairos
I like the cubes part with the slow refresh... BUT PLEASE. One is enough pain to watch.




Oh, and...
EEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 02:11:01 by xernobyl xernobyl
link is dead :(
i got bored of this kind of releases long time ago...
added on the 2009-08-16 02:17:01 by nosfe nosfe
EPSON!
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 02:18:03 by psykon psykon
What nosfe said.
added on the 2009-08-16 02:21:34 by Stebo Stebo
Will fix link soon, until then watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atklmnxwTNU
added on the 2009-08-16 02:29:32 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
maybe it was technicaly not a masterpiece, but otherwise, what more should you do with such an old machine ? i mean, it was a demo, a bit different from others. I liked it ! Good idea, good job ! thanks for that !
added on the 2009-08-16 02:36:12 by vectrex vectrex
a pig for the platform
Journey Through Farterspace: The Reckoning
excellent!
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 10:06:36 by pohar pohar
i appreciate the efford for such stonage platforms, but it was neither funny nor super excellent.
added on the 2009-08-16 10:37:20 by Kojote Kojote
the platform sucks, the demo sucks
sucks added on the 2009-08-16 10:41:57 by elkmoose elkmoose
I think it's basic intepreter is much too slow to make a decent demo with. Next time, try assembler :)
added on the 2009-08-16 10:48:21 by evil evil
It was fun watching, and thumbs up for the platform!
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 10:54:45 by Venty Venty
vectrex, they should've done something that's actually intresting to watch. which i havent seen on this or any similar platforms yet.
added on the 2009-08-16 10:54:55 by nosfe nosfe
I have to agree with the people who say that this is not terribly interesting. Then again, it is made for a crap platform so could it ever be? But next time, please make it shorter.. :)
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 10:56:30 by Preacher Preacher
fuck you
sucks added on the 2009-08-16 10:57:54 by raimo raimo
For a Epson HX-20 demo this is great!
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 11:27:20 by branch branch
Thumbs up for the music.
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 11:33:33 by mrp- mrp-
Funny little demo on a very unordinary platform. So thumb is up :)
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 12:15:36 by flure flure
what nosfe said
bah
sucks added on the 2009-08-16 13:39:43 by Maali Maali
Boring! At least replace the firmware with your own so you have decent speed...
sucks added on the 2009-08-16 15:17:35 by Joghurt Joghurt
It's really hard to care about a platform that can't even show a decent 2d starfield effect. :/
added on the 2009-08-16 15:19:58 by tomaes tomaes
for platform
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 15:53:19 by panic panic
oink
Funny!
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 16:25:01 by Optimus Optimus
this epson stuff is starting to get old
added on the 2009-08-16 16:57:31 by noby noby
Piggie for platform.
added on the 2009-08-16 19:11:49 by Emod Emod
Challenge !
rulez added on the 2009-08-16 19:50:40 by Orion_ Orion_
Piggie, looks like there is a base hardware limit for decent demos which the platform is limbo-dancing below? Is a Vic 20 emulator possible on the platform ;-)
added on the 2009-08-16 20:21:29 by CiH CiH
Looks like basic coding... And no original idea! So down the flush!
sucks added on the 2009-08-16 21:35:37 by baah baah
The Epson demo from Breakpoint was already tedious enough; this wasn't any more interesting. IMHO the platform just isn't worthy, feel free to prove me wrong in another production though :)
added on the 2009-08-17 00:23:12 by Alpha C Alpha C
Boredom generated by too little performance.
Pros: The platform (but why oh why in BASIC ?)
Cons: Most of the visuals look like typed in from a BASIC tutorial.
And, i mean, 614KHz is almost 2/3 the speed of a C64.
added on the 2009-08-17 18:37:55 by Paranoid Paranoid
Maybe there's no assembler nor any hardware docs to bang the hardware. But it still sucks, therefore the inverted thumb. :)

Use a crossassembler and poke around in the memory to document it and make a nice demo!!
sucks added on the 2009-08-17 20:54:16 by Photon Photon
Ohh i forgot *THUMBS UP* !! but next time take a Casio LCD Watch as your Demo Plattform :-)
rulez added on the 2009-08-17 21:15:47 by vectrex vectrex
Quote:
what more should you do with such an old machine ?


Code the demo in assembler next time!
sucks added on the 2009-08-18 15:16:25 by StingRay StingRay
sorry, this is tedious. one demo of this kind was enough.
sucks added on the 2009-08-18 15:22:53 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
Hi All. Thanks for your comments, I want to answer some of them:

- I really didn't know that there was already a HX-20 demo at Breakpoint 2009. The HX-20 entry is missing in pouet, I found it now at youtube and in the Breakpoint results.

- Yes, the code is written in Basic. Sure, the machine would be much faster (and the demo more interesting) in Assembler. But I took the computer 3 days before the party out of my cellar (maybe this really was to late), so there was not enough time to "learn" assembler or to do something better on this old machine. I'm not sure, but I think it also needs extra software to code it in Assembler - just poking around in the memory takes a lot of time...

Because the Basic interpreter is vey slow, I had to precalculate the rotating cube. So, the long loading time is no fake or joke and not to bore somebody. Without precalculation, the cube would roate with 1 frame/3 seconds ;-) Ok, with precalc it's also not really "faster"...

Also every demo and platform is a matter of taste (sure, you all know this), so one person likes it, another one does not.

Anyway, thanks and greetingz.
added on the 2009-08-18 17:30:50 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
bah
sucks added on the 2009-08-18 23:24:46 by Sir Sir
1) code asm on firmware 2) dont clear the screen between frames 3) it runs 10-100x faster
added on the 2009-08-19 00:59:13 by artanis artanis
for the effort :D
rulez added on the 2009-08-19 21:14:25 by doc^21o6 doc^21o6
Quote:
- I really didn't know that there was already a HX-20 demo at Breakpoint 2009. The HX-20 entry is missing in pouet, I found it now at youtube and in the Breakpoint results.

Still it's strange to see 2 demos for the same platform in the same year.
added on the 2009-08-19 21:21:00 by xernobyl xernobyl
Nice !
rulez added on the 2009-08-23 00:32:33 by cxnull cxnull
cool
no
sucks added on the 2009-10-20 00:56:35 by T$ T$
Looking forward to an ASM version of this demo for the very same platform this year. :)
added on the 2010-01-06 21:25:44 by Venty Venty
line draw in basic and some beeping
sucks added on the 2013-05-09 17:43:48 by noby noby

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