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Another Beginning by Offence [web] & Prosonix
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release date : october 2010
release party : X 2010
compo : c64 demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 78
  • is ok 4
  • sucks 2
popularity : 1%
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best demo on an oldschool platform
  • rulez 0.90
alltime top: #820
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I don't think it should've won from a design perspective. That said, this had some of the nicest routines I've ever seen on C64!!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:23:36 by ferris ferris
Very nice, a pity about the lack of flow.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:32:06 by wood wood
Well done, yet not my cup of tea.
added on the 2010-10-03 19:40:39 by WsW WsW
I fail to see the awesomeness in the code. Please explain.
added on the 2010-10-03 19:43:42 by Calexico Calexico
There's some brilliant code in there! Good work, guys!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:44:07 by kusma kusma
According to the unnoficial results list this is not #1. The real #1 is "Fright not" by the same group.

This explains a lot, as the #2 and #3 demos are much better than this one.
added on the 2010-10-03 19:46:16 by Calexico Calexico
Too oldschool for me, but DISCO part roxx!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:46:31 by unbeliever^x7m unbeliever^x7m
A megademo in 2010, we <3 01d5ch00l! I don't see this as a worthful winner and it's quite dishomogeneous, but it looks to have a warn soul and some nice code'n'gfx.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:49:40 by Luca/FIRE Luca/FIRE
Calexico: that list is not correct, this is the actual winner.

A bit too oldschool in mindset for my taste as well (preferred the FLT and Booze demos), but it sure was a nice blast at the party.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:51:37 by Alpha C Alpha C
Wow, at first I thought is that 1st place but then I looked at the name and the results and said, wait the 1st place is a second demo by offence,. and this is still quite good in many aspects, and it's surprising a "press space" demo can still have so nice feeling. There are some nice effects and very clever parts there with really good graphics. Wow!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:55:26 by Optimus Optimus
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 19:58:46 by Quarryman Quarryman
Some parts are a bit too simple but it still is a very nice demo, love the graphics and music. And I like that "let there be life" scroller quite a lot.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 20:01:54 by StingRay StingRay
I personally preferred Fairlight's entry to this but there's lots of really nice stuff here as well as great music and it's a worthy winner for being so lovely and oldskool. Oh, and the DISCO part rules! :-)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 20:15:25 by pmc pmc
Panoramic spirit!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 20:17:01 by 4mat 4mat
i don't like the megademos. but this one is really rocks. some parts is very cool and some is very touching. well deserved 1st place.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 20:17:04 by diver diver
Had its moments, surely.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 21:48:23 by visy visy
Offence is back... what more to say?
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 22:17:47 by cryer cryer
i love the embossed logo on the twister in the first part.
pretty fine megademo all over :)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 22:56:52 by mEDiA sENtRY mEDiA sENtRY
a megademo you say? really neat gfx, great trip.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-03 23:51:24 by comankh comankh
very oldschool style. clever use of the twister effect! also loved the isometric scrolly. last but not least, some great tunes (especially the one in the endpart..maybe my memory plays tricks on me but freqvibez...weren't you the one who sent me that ISA SIDcard several years ago? :))
rulezadded on the 2010-10-04 03:01:03 by xyz xyz
A dozen parts, some good, some bad, some uplifting and silly, some depressing and weird. A huge mixed bag, with occasional moments of awesomeness.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-04 13:13:00 by tomaes tomaes
not bad guys!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-04 16:52:50 by harism harism
I love the marble madness scroller :)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-04 17:22:28 by evil evil
Hold commodore key in the "mountain & green field" part. (with the petscii cows :) I saw a scroll go by too but can't figure out how to get it to appear again.
added on the 2010-10-04 18:16:51 by 4mat 4mat
some massive parts in there, my fav probably being the DISCO one because it just looks cool =)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-04 22:25:57 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Not outstanding but some nice parts (Disco) and great GFX
rulezadded on the 2010-10-04 23:56:05 by BackSpace BackSpace
Like
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 02:07:11 by samurai samurai
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 10:00:33 by moqui moqui
Thumbup for some nice effects! Thumbdown for no flow. But still a thumb up.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 10:25:19 by Emod Emod
This demo is exceptional! For me it's a continuation of the Norwegian avant gardish demoscene which kinda ended around the early nineties. Those demos were outstanding, look at e.g. Panoramic Design's Mentallic to see what i mean. This one breathes that heritage like we haven't seen since then. That was rarely about tech records or macho code, but casting an atmosphere combined with or based on smart ideas.
If you're not used to 'press-space' demos, and got spoiled with the trackmos, i understand it's a bit harder to appreciate. But instead of having one big soup of effects and transitions, this meal is served in portions - each portion having its own peak and atmosphere. Impossible with the current standards of trackmos.
Plus there's so much love and ideas in this one...

Just to shed a light on the pov of more c64 sceners here, not just me. I guess it's harder for some to appreciate it without this background. Please considerate the historic part, one can not judge properly without having any background knowlegde. (which is a fact beyond the scene naturally; politics, art and .. what not).
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 11:58:50 by Sander Sander
Rich! Yes, it seems to have been put together in a hurry and yes, it is somewhat unbalanced but it had me go "Ah!" and "Oh!" quite a few times. I like it.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 16:24:26 by Paranoid Paranoid
- great "space" odyssey -
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 17:46:48 by kempy kempy
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 19:26:45 by Grimmy Grimmy
Since this is a multi-part demo, I'll be giving +1 for every part I liked, and -1 for every part I didn't.

+1 "Mindbender". Nice tune, LN graphic. awesome 3D letters

+1 scroll message. Go, take this wretched form to new heights!

+1 for the Joystick scene. Tho I don't really like the Competition Pro, favouring the Quickshot Python, or the Konix Speedking, the Artwork was flawless. Fantastic Four Four-ever! ;)

+1 for the text weaves. Short and to the point, the best kind of scrolltext.

-1 for the words in the geek's skull. Er, what's going on?

-1 for the downbeat head. Why, guys?

+1 for the Disco sequence. Pure Genius!

+1 for the Eye in the triangle sequence. Loved the bouncing balls.

+1 for the Cityscape. Cheer up fella! There is always a better world for the taking!

+1 for the 3D isometric scroller. Hidden part much?

+1 for the green field. Moo!

+1 for the art in the following scene.

+2 for the ending. Don't forget to turn off your sets tonight.

So, Final Score: 10 points. Thumbs up, Soldier! :)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 20:04:06 by FunkyM FunkyM
Fantastic! I loved this to bits, and the music.. and the graphics... just.. wow. Lost for words. Big up to Pal and the gang.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 20:35:17 by menace menace
Great comment by Sander.

Seeing this demo reminded me about something Twoflower said or wrote about Kjell Nordbo being one of the last to make demos in the Norwegian style. This demo felt very Norwegian to me, as it is filled with perfectly pixelled graphics and well crafted parts, where an amazing and often a bit creepy or trippy mood is set.

There has been a lot of discussion about the results in the demo compo at x, but just the part with the triangles and bouncing balls makes this a worthy winner, and then there is still the rest of the demo.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 20:56:07 by hollowman hollowman
Very nice routines and pictures but lack of any linking disappoints in 2010.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 21:52:57 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
Lovely
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 23:43:38 by Buckethead Buckethead
Nitro : download the Panoramic Design demos and watch those.
added on the 2010-10-05 23:46:36 by 4mat 4mat
Great demo with lots of stuff to look at and to listen to. I just love those little vignettes during loading...
rulezadded on the 2010-10-05 23:52:29 by Stebo Stebo
The live HD footage of this is in 3 parts on here

+Thumb
rulezadded on the 2010-10-06 10:29:08 by m0d m0d
Well done!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-06 11:59:24 by kyv kyv
<3 the scroller with light and life
rulezadded on the 2010-10-06 12:21:57 by mueslee mueslee
Ha ha, this is the worst and most obsolete shit I have seen for 2 years or so.
I can't believe it came first.
sucksadded on the 2010-10-06 12:27:24 by abscess abscess
If you don't like scrollers leave party: Smile
Let there be light: Jaw on floor
Let there be life: Head explode.

Weaving scroller, and the bouncing ball part was impressive also.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-06 16:48:47 by neptun neptun
nice, but liked fairlight better
rulezadded on the 2010-10-06 20:14:34 by Queen bittin Queen bittin
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rulezadded on the 2010-10-06 21:10:20 by Skate Skate
Strange mood generated by extreme oldschoolness (space plus scrollers plus zero-effects loader). But lots of good and suiteable tunes and some really good effects: Slideshow blending, Disco Ball, Triangle Eye with Balls, Iso Scroller.

rulezadded on the 2010-10-06 21:29:07 by JAC! JAC!
Quote:
-1 for the words in the geek's skull. Er, what's going on?


They're all 65xx opcodes, and slowly they all turn into NOP (No OPeration). That's what's going on. How you interpert that is up to you (:

Overal a pretty nice demo, although I don't think it deserved first place. Still some fucking killer stuff in here (:

Also, what Sander said.
Forgot my thumb.
Maybe unequal, but some parts are... wow! o_O
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 10:04:26 by untel untel
thumb for the iso scroller alone!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 10:15:24 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
Let there be Offence!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 13:55:21 by CONS CONS
A bit hit and miss. A good demo, but not the first place for me.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 14:17:16 by xeron xeron
I fail to see what's so impressive about this one, simple effects, decent graphics, medicore music
sucksadded on the 2010-10-08 14:29:32 by noby noby
Comeback of the century on the commodore 64 !
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 18:58:34 by magic magic
h
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 19:20:18 by devreci devreci
Would thumb for the diagonal scroller alone, but there's quite a lot of nice thing in the whole :)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 23:02:27 by Dbug Dbug
very nice demo!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-08 23:17:53 by rudi rudi
One of my favorite demos of this year.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-09 09:11:47 by mic mic
You did it! Awesome work! Congratulations! Some parts are really really good. Overall excellent graphics, and so many wonderful melodic tunes. (Are the .sid files available somwhere?)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-09 10:33:41 by Mystra Mystra
Nice gfx and ideas... Well done! :)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-09 14:03:56 by baah baah
Quote:
(Are the .sid files available somwhere?)


I'm sure they'll be in the next HVSC release.
Offence are back !
and doing more than just well !
i loved your Amiga-Stuff in the early 90s already :D

i am still unconscious of who should have won, taking out the 4thPlace==tool(cubase64) it would have been hard to decide for me under the first 4 !

good to have you back ! moar awesomeness plz !

PS: next time do some trackmo plz, this time i see why you had to go for multiparts, the effects lead to it...but plz try to have it more fastpaced next time,tnx ! :)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-09 19:12:34 by hArDy. hArDy.
Non-cammed video please?
added on the 2010-10-09 19:48:50 by AntDude AntDude
great code, graphics and music, but I guess I'm one of those newschool kiddies who are too lazy to press space without being annoyed
rulezadded on the 2010-10-10 14:37:32 by Duckers Duckers
Worthy winner. Could use some better transitions perhaps (check out "Sonic" by Triumwyrat for an example of a megademo with nice transitions), but the mood is excellent, the ideas are fresh, the graphics are astonishing and the music's good.
rulezadded on the 2010-10-13 08:10:14 by radiantx radiantx
*like*
rulezadded on the 2010-10-13 19:57:11 by joooo joooo
Good effects, no transition. Could have been so much more if the parts would have been connected... Music is so-so.
added on the 2010-10-18 00:49:12 by raer raer
but what wood said
rulezadded on the 2010-10-18 11:50:05 by ewerybody ewerybody
Quote:
-1 for the words in the geek's skull. Er, what's going on?
Quote:
They're all 65xx opcodes, and slowly they all turn into NOP (No OPeration). That's what's going on. How you interpert that is up to you (:
The picture is Zodiac from Flash Inc. ;) Remember that old "war"... lol
added on the 2010-10-19 21:19:02 by BHF BHF
This demo is a work of art.
It was fun to attend with the rest of the Norwegians at x2010.

:)
rulezadded on the 2010-10-19 21:21:02 by BHF BHF
Quote:
Quote:
They're all 65xx opcodes, and slowly they all turn into NOP (No OPeration). That's what's going on. How you interpert that is up to you (:

The picture is Zodiac from Flash Inc. ;) Remember that old "war"... lol


No, I don't. Probably from before my time ;_)
Let there be light part was awesome. Mostly the demo is pure diamond, but didn't quite get the x-ray guy. Definitely a thumb up!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-24 02:28:30 by skirk skirk
The music.. the muuuuuuuusic!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-24 15:45:56 by aricz aricz
music pwnz
graphics pwnz
thumbsup !
rulezadded on the 2010-10-27 05:25:27 by bull bull
Ok, some scroll texts are rather weird, but the gfx rock and it's a nice 20 minutes spent to watch. Music not my cup of tea mostly. Overall: Rulez.
rulezadded on the 2010-11-02 05:59:57 by scamp scamp
hahaha. great stuff.
rulezadded on the 2011-09-24 15:11:04 by las las
Fuck, only C64 demos can entertain me for 15 mins.....stunning work....
rulezadded on the 2011-09-27 18:26:40 by Zplex Zplex
..like the disco-guy, though! :-)
added on the 2011-10-22 17:25:13 by WsW WsW
Awesome pumping iso scroller! Also liked the pyramid part. And the music in the competition pro part was particularly ace. :) I wish I didn't have to press space though :P
rulezadded on the 2011-10-22 19:33:00 by loaderror loaderror
fuckin' great!
rulezadded on the 2011-12-13 13:31:11 by rez rez
Lots of parts that I don't like all that much and lots of stuff that goes over my head and that's exactly what makes it awesome.
rulezadded on the 2011-12-13 15:11:04 by Preacher Preacher
a right demo!!!!!!! kick'in & superb!
video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQWrSyk_Rlg&feature=youtu.be
rulezadded on the 2012-02-26 18:52:45 by s!Nk s!Nk
has some really great screens! liked the traingels part alot!
rulezadded on the 2012-03-26 19:07:24 by darXtar darXtar
Nice and refreshing.
rulezadded on the 2012-10-09 21:42:26 by lamb lamb
Atmospheric and somewhat experimental which I really like.
rulezadded on the 2013-03-12 02:45:31 by lennart lennart
Really great artwork, design and sense of humor. Good work.
rulezadded on the 2013-05-07 16:16:36 by slayer slayer
wat, haven't thumbed?
rulezadded on the 2013-05-07 16:34:48 by Serpent Serpent
Cool demo!
rulezadded on the 2013-11-26 14:33:33 by at0m at0m
+
rulezadded on the 2014-01-04 22:03:54 by T$ T$
this is crazy, so much good stuff here i don't even know where to start :)
rulezadded on the 2014-04-19 16:35:11 by keito keito

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