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Realtime Mandelbrot Fractal Zoomer by Sector One [web]
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screenshot added by zerkman on 2011-01-27 09:50:46
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release date : january 2011
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added on the 2011-01-27 09:50:46 by zerkman zerkman

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nice to see software like this ...

any chance that you provide the sourcecode for that thing? As you can be seen as pioneers on that console it would help the community to have nice tutorials :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 12:04:17 by slippy slippy
nice just tried it on my ps3, fast and fairly smooth good stuff :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 12:45:02 by keito keito
no PS3 here yet, so:

is it zooming? if so, why is it declared as procedural graphics ?
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rulez added on the 2011-01-27 13:04:41 by panic panic
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rulez added on the 2011-01-27 13:17:58 by tobé tobé
hardy: yes it's zooming. Read the nfo ;)
added on the 2011-01-27 13:41:35 by zerkman zerkman
slippy: yes I think the sourcecode is worth sharing. Once I get the toolchain bug workarounds removed and the code properly commented, I'll release the sourcecode.
added on the 2011-01-27 13:44:57 by zerkman zerkman
and propably some signing for official/custom firmwares, too? :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 16:00:07 by toxie toxie
have nothing to run it on but thumb up for pioneering (:
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 16:35:06 by RRROAR RRROAR
What RRROAR said.
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 18:08:49 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
what sensenstahl said.
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 18:12:29 by baah baah
what baah said.
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 19:32:30 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
/me demands video.
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 20:43:58 by kbi kbi
nice
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 21:54:48 by wullon wullon
Yes, nice to see some more releases for the PS3!
Good use of the SPEs, I'd be reallly interested to see the source as I'm currently messing around a bit with PS3 coding as well.
rulez added on the 2011-01-27 22:36:51 by Sdw Sdw
RULEZ :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 07:32:45 by shuffle2 shuffle2
It's beginning!
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 11:02:59 by magic magic
for the screenshot and for cell programming
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 12:13:13 by vibrator vibrator
Tried it on my ps3, it rocks!
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 12:52:04 by micdune micdune
No PS3 here, but thumb regardless.
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 14:06:30 by psonice psonice
perhaps it's better to have a video, since most of the people voting here are judging a single (and sooo common) mandelbrot screenshot because they doesn't own a jailbroken PS3...
added on the 2011-01-28 16:00:00 by rez rez
rez: a few people have confirmed that it works. Beyond that, it's a mandelzoom, running on cell. Is that not worth a thumb? :)
added on the 2011-01-28 16:07:58 by psonice psonice
yes
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 16:38:20 by Sir Sir
Thumbs up for this, proving that no, jailbreaking is not just to run pirated games, but also for legitimate use of the machine :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 17:38:01 by Tarmil Tarmil
zerkman !!
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 17:46:49 by lsl lsl
YES
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 19:10:55 by cxnull cxnull
keep it up
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 19:45:59 by Serpent Serpent
Um realtime Mandelbrot has been around for what...? 12 years at least.
added on the 2011-01-28 22:47:12 by Photon Photon
@photon i think the good part is not the realtime mandelbrot but a good coded, full threaded homebrew release for the ps3... looks pretty though, so thumb
rulez added on the 2011-01-29 02:23:25 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
works smooth on my gh-3.55 :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-29 06:42:01 by dabb dabb
what psonice said.
rulez added on the 2011-01-29 06:49:24 by mudlord mudlord
i wish i had a ps3
video FFS
added on the 2011-01-29 09:35:46 by Sir Sir
I've got a PS3.. Is there any risks/downsides to installing a fw with the package installer enabled? (i.e. will sony be able to detect this, etc).
Video please! :)
added on the 2011-01-29 17:47:39 by AntDude AntDude
Video please! :)
Rocks!
rulez added on the 2011-01-31 02:26:11 by zoolum zoolum
Nice & thx for the source code :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-31 11:06:34 by yannshu yannshu
Here is a a video. Quality is crap, since I couldn't record the HDMI output of the PS3 (thanks to HDCP) and as it's an interactive app it would have been weird to generate images from the app. So I filmed it with my old Fuji camera. If someone can make a better video out of it, please do.
added on the 2011-01-31 19:31:46 by zerkman zerkman
kikass. Mandelbulb next ? :)
rulez added on the 2011-01-31 20:15:59 by krabob krabob
I save my thumb for a mandelbulb
I love mandelbrot and PS3 so it rocks :-)
Btw, could you tell us a bit more about what toolchain did you use to build such PS3 demos? Any url available?
rulez added on the 2011-01-31 22:16:34 by leonard leonard
have watched the video above. ass-kicking thingy. Great work! <3
rulez added on the 2011-01-31 23:16:06 by nekomono nekomono
Nice!
rulez added on the 2011-02-01 09:06:03 by xTr1m xTr1m
a little thumb up for the fast gpu-mandelbrot on PS3, I hoped to see a deeper zoom in the video, but perhaps you avoid to do that because framerate drop to much ;)
rulez added on the 2011-02-01 10:00:58 by rez rez
leonard : I used the psl1ght SDK, on top of ooPo's ps3 toolchain.

rez: The GPU wasn't used, only the SPUs of the Cell processor. And deep zooming was prevented by the use of the single precision float format (and Cell performance sucks at double precision).
added on the 2011-02-01 10:28:01 by zerkman zerkman
Goil! Finally someone without access to the Sony SDK is doing it natively, so even PS3 Slim owners without the "Other OS" / Linux option can watch it.
rulez added on the 2011-02-01 13:49:41 by eyebex eyebex
Cool! Works realy nice!
rulez added on the 2011-02-01 17:03:50 by PauloFalcao PauloFalcao
Looks great, also nice idea with the controlling.
rulez added on the 2011-02-02 15:11:16 by fiveofive fiveofive
! I hope to see a lot more for the ps3. such a cool platform for demos.
rulez added on the 2011-02-02 20:56:44 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
Just for fun, I just added an old 4kb "deep" Mandel Zoom I made some years ago. You can get it here:

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=56614

As Zerkman say the zoom depth is limited with single precision float. I use double, wich is quite slow on CELL/SPU.
added on the 2011-02-02 21:55:40 by leonard leonard
Nice Leonard, but unlike your version, the PS3 version does not seam to use the zoom trick, every frame, every pixel seams realtime calculated probably in 1920x1080, i'm not sure about the actual resolution, but it is pretty high with a very decent frame rate.
PauloFalcao: indeed on the shown video every pixel is actually calculated in 1920x1080, 128 iterations, as you can "see" in the source code.
added on the 2011-02-02 23:05:57 by zerkman zerkman
yes Paulo, PS3 mandel is really computing 1920*1080 pixels, which is really impressive, and don'"t use "zoom" trick.
My version use a nice trick wich could be used to otimize the ps3 version, but the algortihm should be a bit harder to run on SPU with good load balancing. Basically the idea is that if you can find an area of the mandel where the perimeter is made of the same pixel, then all the enclosed area can be filled with that pixel value. This is a "huge" optimisation, but tricky to do on SPU
added on the 2011-02-03 00:44:07 by leonard leonard
Where is leonards mandelzoomer (for PC I assume)?
Pouet link seems to be invalid.
added on the 2011-02-03 14:25:17 by Sdw Sdw
leonard: your "nice trick" doesn't work with smooth colouring. Not even in the black area without precision (and quality) loss. I could use another mathematical trick to speedup the black part rendering, but it was fast enough ;)
added on the 2011-02-03 14:28:36 by zerkman zerkman
wtf? each time i navigate to the link posted above, the address bar says http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=56614 but I get a different page each time!?!?!?
hooverphonique: the above link was a dupe, so admins removed it, and a removed pouet id link redirect to the "random prod" page :)
added on the 2011-02-03 14:52:41 by rez rez
good
rulez added on the 2011-02-03 15:14:31 by gopher gopher
Just checked it yesterday on my PS3 ... it's really fast ... and nice :)
added on the 2011-02-04 12:41:22 by slippy slippy
Thanks Zerkman. It's better than nothing. :)

added on the 2011-02-05 19:53:11 by AntDude AntDude
Nice! I'll try it on the PS3 emulator I wrote for the Falcon :)
rulez added on the 2011-02-06 16:09:49 by shoggoth shoggoth
yes sorry my link was a dupe. My original old zoomer is here:
http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=8486
added on the 2011-02-07 11:25:35 by leonard leonard
The trick given by leonard can be SEEN here:
http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=56648
added on the 2011-02-07 21:57:23 by baah baah
Nice
rulez added on the 2011-02-08 20:43:25 by BiTL BiTL
Nice!
rulez added on the 2011-02-11 13:33:18 by Mystra Mystra
Mandelbulb please?
added on the 2011-02-15 04:23:44 by Hoild Hoild
Zerkman:
Bien joué, mec. If you have time give us MORE! Appart the PLASTIC dudez!!, you are the pioneer on this field.
What are your plans?
rulez added on the 2011-02-15 09:40:01 by sim sim
btw is there any good windows rt fractal zoomer?
added on the 2011-02-25 03:42:48 by Speed Speed
Fractals on the Cell!
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 17:34:04 by Venty Venty
Excellent use of the SPUs with async DMA! This is how to take the most out of the PS3.
rulez added on the 2011-11-13 01:45:01 by sam sam
Limited zooming...
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Zerkman just rules !
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