Batman Forever by Batman Group
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release date : march 2011
release party : Forever 2011
compo : cpc demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 10%
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Wow !!!! <3
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 19:51:02 by chiourme chiourme
Holy fucking shit! This is massive!

Amstrad begins! :)
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-20 19:54:05 by Grimmy Grimmy
Batman Group is back? Video plz :)
added on the 2011-03-20 19:55:30 by Serpent Serpent

The BEST demo ever seen on CPC!
Batman group brings CPC in a new era!

rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:03:45 by voXfReaX voXfReaX
Suggested WinAPE 2.0 A17 with settings as described goes to blank blue screen and stops (no drive activity anymore). Pitty.
added on the 2011-03-20 20:11:58 by JAC! JAC!
Best prod. ever on CPC! Mega-thumbs up! This demo rulez! All others are child-play ;)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:18:39 by Devilmarkus Devilmarkus

This is for CPC what Edge of Disgrace was for the C64 and maybe even more (judging by your average best CPC demo before this was released).

First of all massive. I opened the archive and I was like WTF, three disks?

Then, the perfect design (similar to the Batman Vuelve in introduction batman screens), fast moving trackmo style, great transitions, lot's of surprises, then massive zoom effects never seen before, but it never ends, never ends, amazing dot records and more more and the style, the fast paced design, the ideas, THIS IS IT!!! And there is more..

Thank you for bringing this impossibility on our humble CPC scene and prooving that the CPC can do really real demos. You have raised the level of what an amazing demo should be 3 or 4 times, not only on the CPC. I am speechless!

p.s. I guess I have words to say. Lot's! :)
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-20 20:22:58 by Optimus Optimus
Quickly uploaded it:
Watch online in CPCInAJar
Sorry, FDC timing is a bit weird but the demo runs well!
Worked fine on WinAPE here (used the double-sided disk version). I'm not familiar enough with what is possible on a CPC so it's hard for me to properly appreciate it, but I found it an excellent show regardless :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:24:51 by Alpha C Alpha C
Really, really good demo.
First CPC with musical loading with the same tune from beginning to the end.
Thanks for doing this demo.
We have to do better now
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-20 20:35:37 by krusty krusty
O_________o ... excuse me, while I try to recover from watching this demo. I have three words, though: JUST. PLAIN. AWESOME. :D
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:40:26 by ccr ccr
Holy shit!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:41:18 by Exin Exin
Any demo that keeps me smiling throughout is worth a thumb. Fucking amazing, best demo released this year yet.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:43:29 by noby noby
Outch !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:43:48 by Supersly Supersly
Amazing, jaw-dropping, breath-taking - I just cannot express myself on awesomeness of this demo.
Surely a king of this year 8-bit demos.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:47:25 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:47:42 by gorgh gorgh
added on the 2011-03-20 20:52:42 by branch branch
seems like we have a winner
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:54:43 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 20:58:51 by branch branch
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:02:10 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
Astonishing work, so well thought and compatible that it can even handle my own CPC emulator! :D

Now seriously, "Batman Forever" is to the CPC what "Edge of Disgrace" is to the C64: the newest best work for the machine. Chapeau!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:11:24 by cngsoft cngsoft
Forget all you ever thought you knew about the CPC. This is the proof we were all dead wrong about it! :D

Batman Forever is a true eye-opening experience. Congrats guys!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:22:38 by phi2x phi2x
CPC Pride, CPC Power!!

Truly a landmark demo for the platform. Also it's good timing for the release in the barren pre-Easter period, thus avoiding getting lost in the tumultuous stampede of other landmark demos due in the latter part of April.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:22:51 by CiH CiH
Incresible trackmo, I loved the shiny drawing at the beginning.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:23:11 by Luca/FIRE Luca/FIRE
I'm impressed. Best CPC demo ever. Vanity got vanited !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:31:07 by norecess norecess
Wow, I think we can already name this one as a nominee for "best demo on an oldschool platform" next year!

Sadly I don't know all that much about the CPC-series of computers (other than what I can find on Wikipedia), but regardless of that - this must be one of the best demos on an 8-bit platform!

Also, if I understand things correctly, this is the groups first appearance on this platform? In that case - even more impressive!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:43:43 by Sdw Sdw
Holy crap, what a comeback! :) Great effects, graphics and music. And I totally love the attitude too. :D All thumbs up!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:46:11 by StingRay StingRay
awesome!!! and what Sdw said ;)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:46:18 by Premium Premium
My 3 thumbs up! The bar wasn't raised. They kicked it into orbit.
added on the 2011-03-20 21:49:40 by MooZ MooZ
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 21:50:10 by MooZ MooZ
I guess I have - after all those years - a new favourite CPC demo. This is absolutely awesome. Great demo!!!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:09:08 by Octoate Octoate
Holy shit. This demo just raised the bar into space for the CPC.

I totally didn't think the CPC could do that.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:13:50 by xeron xeron
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:20:36 by ferris ferris
Outch !!! The war is open !!! Awesome !!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:36:13 by Beb Beb
Impressive !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:40:42 by cyberpingui cyberpingui
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:43:22 by fano fano
Holy shit ... that was a damn demogasm!
My next CDC for sure.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:50:01 by Shockwav3 Shockwav3
classic Amiga-style demo. on a CPC. rocks!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:51:50 by xyz xyz
Outstanding in every way!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:55:14 by 71M 71M
Wow. Just Wow.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 22:59:34 by Joghurt Joghurt
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:03:57 by Sir Sir
Kick ass prod !!
What a design btw.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:08:23 by BackSpace BackSpace
Come'on, you're not fair. You cannot release this and expect anybody to release something thereafter. No matter which platform. This is so fucking awesome. I coded some of my first games on an CPC back in the 80ies and even normal text output was a nighmare with the build in screen memory layout.

Did I mention that this is so fucking awesome.

Did somebody see th roating bat sign.

Did I mention that this is so fucking awesome.

[repeats forever]
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:09:25 by JAC! JAC!
Um ... aaahhhm... Holy Zilog, Batman !

Stellar work !
May I ask how long you've sat on this project ?
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:11:06 by d0DgE d0DgE
@d0DgE: batman vuelve was in 1995, so I assume they spent 16 years on designing this. Was worth the time, wasn't it ;-)
added on the 2011-03-20 23:13:05 by JAC! JAC!
That was fucking awesome. The archetype of a demo, in every single way imagineable.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:24:25 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:32:41 by mrdoob mrdoob
Astonishing demo! Beautiful graphics, unbelievable effects, great music... it absolutely rulez!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:50:15 by jack-3d jack-3d
Strongly need HiRes YouTube! Seems this is top CPC production up to date (for me).
rulezadded on the 2011-03-20 23:54:31 by unbeliever^x7m unbeliever^x7m
This is not possible. Someone pinch me, i think i am dreaming.

I was thinking about visiting Forever. I should have, just to see this.

You guys just took the fun out of it for everyone else.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 00:45:35 by Topy44 Topy44
i love it!
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-21 00:48:06 by RufUsul RufUsul
fkin great!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 00:51:14 by comankh comankh
Batman Group are back! Can't wait to see the video...anyone, please!!
added on the 2011-03-21 01:00:00 by Wade Wade
added on the 2011-03-21 01:05:47 by comankh comankh
That was epic.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 02:52:14 by zoolum zoolum
Awesome! Need to check it on real CPC.
Lots of effects, good music and great graphics.

Batman Group is back and in CPC! Am I dreaming?
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 03:37:31 by ham ham
I find no words... It's a fuckin' good piece of scene art ! Guys, You are 8-bit gods !

Greetings from Atari scene. Amstrad 4ever :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 04:46:02 by Grey / MSB Grey / MSB
Great job ! Impressive Demonstration ;)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 06:01:14 by Barjack Barjack
I feel bad for all CPC sceners now, they have to explain themselves for all these years of scroll/plasma/wobbler demos :)

"What have you been doing ?"
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-21 06:31:19 by PulkoMandy PulkoMandy
Absolutely great. The Arnold rules.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 06:32:01 by n0com n0com
O_O Fantastic!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 06:48:06 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
it's just great :]

YT version taken from WinAPE emulator:
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 08:05:01 by nula nula
did i just dream watching this or was it for real?
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 08:17:28 by toxie toxie
Oh my god.. Cpc re-invented. Jawbreaker!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 08:34:49 by magic magic
Amazingly impressive (special kudos to the graphic men).
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 08:44:24 by micdune micdune
Good lord!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 08:46:04 by elend elend
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 09:04:07 by martin martin
Yeah! Very well done... But don't believe that Vanity is dead :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 09:09:37 by Hicks Hicks
yeah, batman group is back! amazing demo, makes me want to leave work and go home coding

amstrad begins!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 09:10:39 by Dalton Dalton
awesome :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 09:17:06 by kusma kusma
What have you done? It blew me away.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 09:33:51 by Cj Cj
OMG ! This is the BEST CPC Demo...
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 09:48:56 by DuckOfMOPS DuckOfMOPS
Awesome news: Barman Group is Alive!!! : )
Really Great CPC Demo!! Amazing comeback! :thumb up:
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 09:57:18 by ViThor ViThor
Awesome work, impressive results on a CPC!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 10:10:18 by xoofx xoofx
Even not knowing the platform at all, I can say this is extremely good
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 10:10:32 by Jcl Jcl
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 10:20:23 by p01 p01
well, quite interesting :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 10:31:00 by tobé tobé
this is the demo i was saving my cdc for!!! totally amazing effects and graphics. soundtrack and fx synch is high quality as well. but who said c64 was better? we all knew cpc is superior but we were all saying cpc demos were not pushing the limits. now this one does. :)
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-21 10:39:33 by Skate Skate
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 10:40:20 by chromag chromag
"What have you been doing ?"
This demo has the balls, the style and attitude.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 10:52:55 by v3nom v3nom
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 10:57:38 by ithaqua ithaqua
This is the best Demo !!! MOLODCY ! URRRA !!! Welcome TO ZX SPECTRUM !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:06:46 by 3ASOFT 3ASOFT
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:07:10 by zefyros zefyros
Whoa. What a show. Loved the graphics!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:07:46 by visy visy
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:24:45 by nytrik nytrik
I don't know the technical capabilities or restrictions of the CPC, but it's impressive that an 8bit machine can do all this. The design and graphics were outstanding in places too.

Such a shame the CPC has such horrible sound, but I'm sure the musician did his best.

Great show!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:30:43 by Wade Wade
What Wade said about lacking knowledge of CPC restrictions. Still, this one just has everything. Great looking effects, well pixelated gfx, good soundtrack, Desert Dream / Guardian Dragon 2 references.. and Batman! Batman Group forever.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:42:36 by break break
Very stylish.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:43:12 by thefox thefox
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:46:22 by spritus spritus
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:47:13 by moqui moqui
As usual, CPC sound is lacking compared to C64, but this is so awesome in every other department!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 11:58:09 by leGend leGend
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 12:03:42 by highlife highlife
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 12:06:26 by wullon wullon
fuckin' great
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 12:15:26 by zeebr zeebr
Extremely impressive on all levels. Technically, visually, sound-wise and it's all put together with extreme care and style.
This is what all upcoming CPC demos are going to be measured against - and most C64, XL, Spectrum and other 8-Bit demos as well.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 12:22:43 by Paranoid Paranoid
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 12:35:26 by nodeus nodeus
Impressive comeback! Probably the best demo on classic CPC (not +) ever :) Hm... I have to see it on the real machine.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 12:36:19 by V0yager V0yager
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rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-21 13:04:56 by Kojote Kojote
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rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:05:30 by MsK` MsK`
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:08:02 by ref ref
oh. my. word.
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-21 13:12:51 by kelsey kelsey
Kicks ass! :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:29:17 by baah baah
Thank you all for the comments.
We are working to do a hi-quality video now.
(About the current youtube video I noticed some syncs problems while loading and music, and the frame rate is low. I think it is recorded on a wrong emulator or misconfigured.)

I would appreciate if defective videos are not distributed until the official video release.

Thanks again.

rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:29:47 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
Nice one!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:34:11 by trc_wm trc_wm
Awesome in many respects.
More of this!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:37:00 by Zavie Zavie
So it was a mistake afterall to throw away the CPCs?
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:47:50 by absadhkjsaduoiw1 absadhkjsaduoiw1
Well now, this is incredible! Stunning production, well done!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 13:59:43 by ruairi [rc55] ruairi [rc55]
Fucking hell. What just happened? That, on 8bit? On an amstrad?? And you're telling me the framerate was LOW in places on opti's video?!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 14:00:39 by psonice psonice
Shows some of the CPCs potential... =)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 14:05:01 by Sparklite Sparklite
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 14:40:12 by ԹHΞΞ ԹHΞΞ
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 14:47:05 by Maissi Maissi
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-03-21 14:50:53 by toms toms
lovely demo! comeback of the year for sure!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 15:12:32 by teo teo
Just WOW !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 15:31:13 by ultrasyd ultrasyd
But I thought Amstrad was that slow platform :O
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 15:35:03 by msqrt msqrt
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 15:37:44 by SSG SSG
THIS is the only real fucking awesome demo on CPC !!
Really great, I just love it !
Thank you Batman Group for this pure piece of art.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 15:47:07 by Nicky One Nicky One
Outstanding !!!11
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 15:51:48 by Korguiq Korguiq
This prod is just so amazing ! There's nothing far from perfect, it's just fallen down from Heaven ! Best prod I have ever seen on 8 bits (and maybe even 16 bits :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 16:08:30 by stsurvivor stsurvivor
Had one of these, this is the most stylish thing Ive seen on it.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 16:16:27 by auld auld
Very very nice !!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 16:28:50 by lsl lsl
Ace stuff! Any chance you will do something on the Amiga again? :-).
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 16:37:49 by 4pLaY 4pLaY
Really impressive ! Great work ! Batman rulez !!!!!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 16:58:01 by Candy Candy
This is Atari ST, right? Somebody please fix description... it says "platform Amstrad CPC".
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 16:59:49 by Ped Ped
Very nice.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 17:38:20 by Mystra Mystra
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 17:40:49 by 4kum4 4kum4
Please dont thumb up your own production.
Not that it would matter in this rain of thumbs or that it wouldnt be deserved, its just "bad pouet style" (just so you know).
Apart from that, awesome demo of course.
added on the 2011-03-21 18:13:25 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
I would appreciate if defective videos are not distributed until the official video release.

I have removed the youtube link. :)


Desert Dream / Guardian Dragon 2 references.

You forgot the Hardwired references (credits part). :D
added on the 2011-03-21 19:02:27 by StingRay StingRay
Finally found the time to watch it. Great design and grafix, good soundtrack (maybe a bit more melodic one would have tasted better for me but this fits here just fine). Codewise i'm a bit uneducated especially on CPC but oh boy! More and more classic effects and references from "bigger" platforms and with smooooothness even on that unofficial video! All thumbs and even a schlong way up!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 19:06:52 by Serpent Serpent
just watched it in the emu again (only youtube before) and WTF, its even really much much smoother.. this is truly a masterpiece..
added on the 2011-03-21 19:36:08 by toxie toxie
Holly shit ! that's huge ! but I think Hicks/Vanity is going to release something better at the Revision :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 19:46:07 by gibs gibs
Well, anything less that a double thumb up would be inadequate, but we can only single thumb up on pouet.

Seriously, great demo. Feel free to kick some ass on other machine scenes to show what can really be done :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 20:17:50 by Dbug Dbug
best demo made for 8-bit machines
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 20:22:45 by ISL ISL
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 20:25:02 by Agilo Agilo
I don't have even the slightiest idea of what that involves to make such a demo on CPC. But what comes to mind.... WOW !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 20:45:26 by flure flure
Most amazing!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 20:50:56 by ChrisTOS ChrisTOS
Good attention to details & heavily inspired from Amiga demos (which doesn't come as a surprise). It would be nice to see CPC demos moving on and adopting trackmos as a standard format for demos in the future.


You forgot the Hardwired references (credits part). :D

I think the starting part with the names & the booming sound is also inspired from Hardwired.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 20:53:20 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Fuck me, this demo kicks arse.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 21:01:54 by pmc pmc
Ok, i need to see this beauty on my real CPC6128! I don't have access to the 5 1/4" drive for the CPC any longer to copy the disks myself.
Any one willing to send me this demo on 3" disks or bring them to Revision?
Thx in advance!
added on the 2011-03-21 21:06:26 by RufUsul RufUsul
Excellent demo ! :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 21:27:45 by Felice Felice
@RufUsul: I will bring you a copy of the demo on 3.5" and/or 3" floppies at Revision.
added on the 2011-03-21 21:35:53 by Grimmy Grimmy
@Grimmy: Thx! Let's swap two disks at Revsion ;-)
added on the 2011-03-21 21:40:09 by RufUsul RufUsul
Cool demo! Who would have thought that there are still people out there who have the time and energy to create something like this?

Looks like a lot of pre-calculation though (e.g. the flying processor, the rotating skyscrapers and the rotating batman logo,...).

But nonetheless, nice cinematography and great synchronization of music and effects.

rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 21:42:38 by odiesoft odiesoft
8 bit will never die !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 22:45:29 by Tarmil Tarmil
Great show!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 22:49:18 by loaderror loaderror
cpc rulez da amiga
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 23:05:28 by zerkman zerkman
very nice demo
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 23:15:48 by blala blala
Now this is really good, respects!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 23:32:12 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
mind = blown.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-21 23:36:32 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
fan of the Amiga one, mega-fan of this one. Epic demo!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 00:41:44 by button button
Instant thumb.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 00:42:28 by Widdy Widdy
Now this is a demo!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 00:58:14 by Lordee Lordee
Platforms that got 0wned by this, IMO:
- C64
- speccy
- Atari
...even Amiga OCS/ECS!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 01:23:58 by Hoild Hoild
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 01:44:10 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
the... what?
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 02:42:01 by Gargaj Gargaj
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 02:47:30 by dr.toilet dr.toilet
just what the 8-bit scene needs!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 03:38:25 by nonex nonex
Very good.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 06:09:32 by Shiru Shiru
Now this is really some kickass stuff. Apart from that: What Hoild said
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 07:46:56 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
Well well well. The first CPC demo with impressive routines I've seen so far. Drop the childish Batman stuff and start focusing more on the design and there is hope for the CPC scene yet!

Even better; interface a SID chip to the machine and get some quality sounds out of it while you're at it. ;-)
added on the 2011-03-22 08:39:19 by Jope Jope
I usually don't go out of my way over 8bit prods, but: jolly good show folks! I don't care for plasmas and zoomers, but that 3D batman logo part was ace!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 10:23:31 by Duckers Duckers
Very cool and well executed piece of art :-)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 11:26:05 by _wheely_ _wheely_
Comeback of the year?'

Fucking awesome. That what it is... Fucking awesome!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 11:33:16 by Frost Frost
The... what!? o_O-b
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 11:47:53 by Charlie Charlie
Simply amazing!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 12:18:51 by iTeC iTeC
Amazing And Awesome, welldone indeed :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 12:42:46 by Clyde Clyde
Great stuff!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 12:50:43 by TMA TMA
great overall design
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 13:12:45 by mueslee mueslee
Impressive !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 14:09:36 by Adoru Adoru
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 14:30:14 by rez rez
Wow. Just seen the video in YouTube, can't wait to test in on the real thing.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 16:22:13 by utopian utopian
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 17:23:06 by TmK^deMarche TmK^deMarche
Now you have your own Edge of Disgrace ;) Fucking nice work on this platform, especially in 2011.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 18:04:49 by vscd vscd
-!- O_o \o/..... Also: what Sdw said.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 18:09:15 by Haohmaru Haohmaru
I was never a CPC fan, but this is simply great stuff. Very enjoyable.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 18:12:35 by noname noname
Yes, this is a speccy-demo... all colors except blue suck and the music is totally limited to the hardware (and not bad for that) :)

The code of Rhino is massive. No doubt! Keep on doing, maybe without the batty man. You want to start a C64 war? ~8] Wassup? Wassup?
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 18:16:12 by cryer cryer
My C64 is insulted by this :-)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 19:00:49 by w00t! w00t!
Impressive job ! A real pleasure to discover newcomers on Amstrad, our computer badly needs it.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 19:07:02 by tometjerry tometjerry
Not too sure about the music (composition wise) but yeah, this quite stands out from most other stuff I've seen on CPC. Very nice.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 19:15:29 by kb_ kb_
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 19:27:20 by r13 r13
Code = yes, Attitude = hell yes. We NEED more of this in the modern scene.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 19:32:08 by 4mat 4mat
To muselo dat prace ...
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 19:55:25 by uzeroniq/poxoft uzeroniq/poxoft
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 20:25:11 by mog mog
Very very very good demo.
Do not listen to Jope. I do not want to watch yet another demo that has the same design as every other demo. The Batman theme rocks!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 20:29:19 by bore bore
I think it's actually very cool that a group comes up again in 2011 with the same, a bit childish but so what, theme and agenda after over 15 years and kicks everyone's butt
added on the 2011-03-22 20:38:58 by Serpent Serpent
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 20:56:36 by hashdash hashdash
..great piece of art.. with that i have refound the cpc! and that good.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 21:00:12 by sINk sINk
I added a webcam recorded video from a single disk version to YouTube. Hope you like..!

added on the 2011-03-22 21:04:21 by Sparklite Sparklite
this is really, really IMPRESSIVE! Thank you guys.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 21:10:26 by decca decca
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 21:14:31 by Sander Sander
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 21:15:54 by doMiNO doMiNO
THIS is what it's all about.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 21:25:38 by voz voz
Very impressive stuff for an 8 bit machine. About time the Amstrad got a demo that showed off its capabilities. It certainly has better specs in most regards than the C64, but with the SID chip and the plethora of hardware tricks that have yet to be fully exploited, I still think we have the right demo computer :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 21:27:47 by cruzer cruzer
Well deserved
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 22:02:26 by wayne wayne
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 22:18:05 by BiTL BiTL
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 22:21:52 by Paulbrk Paulbrk
Yes Yes Yes!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 22:22:02 by SplAtEE SplAtEE
rulezadded on the 2011-03-22 23:06:45 by starbuck starbuck
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 00:19:50 by n1k-o n1k-o
f a n t a s t i c
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 00:20:45 by neoman neoman
great job !!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 02:27:50 by med med
until now i never cared for the cpc, but i guess thats about to change... impressive!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 06:34:50 by dabb dabb
Insane stuff!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 06:54:50 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 08:57:00 by kyv kyv
The music has some good and bad but somehow, I'm sure it's done this way to save some routines. Anyway, this is killer CPC demo.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 09:02:48 by knl knl
Congrats for a nice demo on that platform. Not that much static gfx screens (brick pixel), I presume the garish colours are to blame as it is hard to pull out something nice that is not cartoonish. The transitions could also be better and the sound is not the best but with an YA one can't ask for much better. Waiting for upcoming nice cpc demos.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 10:05:05 by wood wood
I just added an interview of Rhino about this production. Feel free to visit my site www.norecess.net !
added on the 2011-03-23 11:22:47 by norecess norecess
Oh thanks for the interview. Gonna read NOW!!!
added on the 2011-03-23 12:26:49 by Optimus Optimus
Impressive and supernice as the demo may be, the 6000 dots looks a bit fishy to me.
It looks like it is drawing about a quarter of that, then leaving a trail of 4 copies or so unerased, then doing an erase.
added on the 2011-03-23 12:47:15 by Sdw Sdw
Captain: This is Amstrad.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 12:47:37 by harism harism
An interview with Rhino about this demo is online: http://www.norecess.net/interview-rhino.html
added on the 2011-03-23 12:54:08 by Octoate Octoate
Yes, it's true about the dots leaving trails and counting them as a quarter both in the tunnel and the sine dots. It's easilly noticable from the very fist time, I just didn't mentioned to not spoil the impression for those who watch after me :)
added on the 2011-03-23 12:58:08 by Optimus Optimus
great demo. great artwork!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 14:11:56 by peach peach
The dots seem to be repeated 6 times, so the real number is 1084. Shadow still holds the record on 8 bit.
added on the 2011-03-23 14:21:57 by cruzer cruzer
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 14:28:08 by psenough psenough
As a Spectrum fan this pains me to say but...

rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 14:56:51 by Carbon- Carbon-
Shadow's dots seemed to be symmetric (and not fullscreen too) but I never mentioned it then :)
added on the 2011-03-23 14:58:05 by Optimus Optimus
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 15:14:25 by nosfe nosfe
maybe the best demo ever for 8bit micros
imagine what batman group can do with the cpc+.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 16:00:14 by breakbeatsz breakbeatsz
@Optimus: I don't know what you mean by symmetric, but there is no mirroring or other tricks. I draw 1123 dots in Teen Dreams, and erase 1123 dots each frame.
You're correct that it runs in only a 128x128 pixel area though.

If we count fullscreen dots, Oxyron has 960 on the C64, and if Cruzers calculations are correct this has 1084, so that would be an All-8-bit-platform record, and impressive one as well.
I still think that would have been a nicer way to show off the routine in this demo by showing "proper" dots than leaving a trail with later erase. I mean, using that method you can have in essence infinite dots just by delaying the erase enough frames.

Maybe not the best place to have this kind of discussion in the comments field of a prod, but on the other hand some nice platform rivalry never goes out of fashion. :)
added on the 2011-03-23 16:23:46 by Sdw Sdw
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 17:38:18 by Manwe Manwe
great one!!! and yes some hardwired inspiration at the credits..but this is nothing bad ..anyway best cpc one ive seen
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 17:44:30 by -JANER- -JANER-
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 18:06:10 by teel teel
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 18:10:38 by mudlord mudlord
loving it!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 18:16:01 by dodke dodke
Ho btw, some of you have noticed that one of the music at the end is a cover of a Fajser/Rage module?
added on the 2011-03-23 18:16:46 by rez rez
Insane! ( In the most postitive way! )
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 18:31:57 by ekoli ekoli
the CPC deserves more good demos like this!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 18:34:56 by Devlin Devlin
Very impressive!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 19:36:50 by Amilt0n Amilt0n
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 19:58:08 by Green Green
love it !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 20:08:28 by frost242 frost242
Added a new video, captured from my real CPC 6128: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbGQxtbWkXM
Oops... well with URL: URL
good news everyone! we can now stop making demos on the CPC .. this is the end! and I am smiling cause it was not made by a frenchie - or even overflow ;-)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 21:00:43 by BSC BSC
It's only a start. The frenchies are working on a revenge it seems ...
To be honest, I didn't cover anyone, the music ideas came just from my head. Maybe I was influenced by _some_ C64 or Amiga or whatever demo song I've heard in the past. But, really, it's not a cover. Perhaps its sounds similar to something (of which I don't know name/author but was in my head at the moment of writing that section) :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 21:44:33 by Factor6 Factor6
mirror, true color, particles forming objects and text, plasma, 3d... what else should I say...

Thumbs up!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 22:15:23 by FeN FeN
Now THAT is what I call a demo!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 23:26:11 by Blueberry Blueberry
I'm speechless. This is the best demo I've seen on an 8-bit platform. I didn't think that the CPC could even do 3D.

Of course, now starts the response. In the wake of this, prides that were left Wounded and bleeding must gather themselves up, and take the fight to Batman Forever (Which, in my own opinion, blows several segments of Edge of Disgrace into digital chum)!

You've more than doubly earned your thumbs up. In the words of the man himself: "You Win."
rulezadded on the 2011-03-23 23:34:15 by FunkyM FunkyM
@sdw: You are right. When I watched your demo I thought I noticed something but when I see the screenshot of the dots on the pouet entry I don't see the mirroring.
added on the 2011-03-24 00:55:41 by Optimus Optimus
All hail Batman, ehrm...Batman Group!
did you just redo every good Effect there was on Amiga500 and did it 8bit-Style?

plz do a Slideshow sometime and name it "Never liked Batman" <-- i disliked Batman forever until i saw your this very truly Demo! Marvellous!
<3 ♥
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 05:16:14 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
Nice one! Thx about the greetz :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 07:01:10 by buzzer_ buzzer_
Well I know nothing about cpc but I reckon I'd be impressed if I did :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 07:47:12 by ileaardbei ileaardbei
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 10:27:30 by nerve nerve
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 12:16:59 by KILE KILE
Simple awesome!!!!!
Nice flow, great sound & gfx and superb effects never seen before on my beloved Amstrad CPC !!! Set a new standard for 8bit demos and any new demo (CPC, C64, Spectrum or what ever 8bit machine you may throw in) will be measured against this masterpiece!! Let the 8bit battle begin!!!1111elfelf
Love it!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 15:52:08 by Apollo Apollo
Let the 8 bit battle begin!

Looking at this demo, the CPC's CRTC resolution and the fact the Rhino spent 1-2 years on it I'm afraid the battle ended right now....
added on the 2011-03-24 16:08:30 by JAC! JAC!
wow! I´d like to see a live recording from the party to see how the crowd is going nuts while this demo was running on the big screen! \o/
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 16:26:20 by dirtie dirtie
Count on us to meet the challenge !!! But who else has the balls to participate ? There are only spectators on this site ?? \o/

(Yeah, I'm a real demomaker :) )
added on the 2011-03-24 16:49:02 by Beb Beb
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 17:07:12 by Frequent Frequent
Thumb up because it's great.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 19:03:12 by Emod Emod
Maaan, if you can do this on a CPC imagine what you could do on a C64!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 20:48:26 by Mtl Mtl
Woww, fucking great !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-24 23:56:37 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
Maaan, if you can do this on a CPC imagine what you could do on a C64!!

It might be timely to get an objective side-by-side assessment of the merits and otherwise of the CPC and C64 as demo platforms from a knowledgeable viewpoint. I get the impression that the CPC is not such an underdog here if people care to explore more closely!
added on the 2011-03-25 00:51:41 by CiH CiH
Ruled the party!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-25 12:05:46 by Rouquemoute Rouquemoute
incredible CPC !
rulezadded on the 2011-03-25 12:42:02 by Pandafox Pandafox
rulezadded on the 2011-03-25 13:03:55 by jxn jxn
Absolutely beautiful.
Very very nice :) Big Thumb up for this Piece of Art :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-25 16:59:42 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
Who knew it had it in it to deliver this kind of awesomness!!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-25 17:42:17 by tFt tFt
Started a BBS post to continue the C64 vs CPC discussion/war :)
added on the 2011-03-25 17:57:25 by cruzer cruzer
Very nice, but it is difficult for me to assess it from a codeporn perspective. Oh god, this must be how people feel about C64 demos...

rulezadded on the 2011-03-25 18:38:59 by Calexico Calexico
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 12:17:31 by emoon emoon
fucking ace. super gfx. and all that with a stock z80?

i remember checking out the 4 mhz z80 on the c128. playing around a bit i found that it was slower than the 6510 on pretty much everything. true, more mhz, but all instructions were slow. it made no sense to use it and thus it was back to the 6510. my reference point may have been the 6510 in 2 mhz mode though, i don't remember.

anyway. not much computing power and great results.

and fun fact: they gave credits to good ol' optimus (wtf :))
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 13:25:02 by vibrator vibrator
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 14:22:31 by rby rby
uhmm. Awesome comeback. Hell YEAH.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 14:45:22 by las las
Absolutely beautiful and breathtaking production!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 16:27:45 by substrate substrate
@vibrator: well it was, just greetings :)
As for z80/6502 it depends on what effect you want to do. If your reference was 2Mhz 6510 then yes, in some cases it might be faster than 4Mhz z80 and in others slower.
added on the 2011-03-26 16:37:25 by Optimus Optimus
great prod. hope to see more
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 17:17:35 by mop mop
ok that was just ridiculous... Holy fucking Christ...
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 17:36:01 by ASiC ASiC
Nice and long too. :)
added on the 2011-03-26 17:46:51 by AntDude AntDude
Fantastic... and massive amount of respect to Batman Group. I still enjoy watching Batman Vuelve and well over 10 years later you guys return to produce another masterpiece!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-26 20:08:16 by darkus darkus
1- Watch it on a real CPC.
2- Consider it the best 8 bit production ever.

rulezadded on the 2011-03-27 00:33:42 by bfx bfx
Yes. Yes indeed.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-27 04:52:08 by Arkholt Arkholt
Really amazing! :D
rulezadded on the 2011-03-27 07:33:56 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
This has everything I want from a demoscene production.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-27 11:16:49 by lug00ber lug00ber
very nice!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-27 15:37:23 by Maali Maali
Drop the childish Batman stuff...

but it is there symbol/trademark...it has been for years. why should they drop Batman...we love Batman. Batman forever - bitch!
added on the 2011-03-27 18:47:30 by button button
Let's hope there's more where this one came from ^_^
rulezadded on the 2011-03-27 18:52:07 by rexbeng rexbeng
Totally awesome, genious..! Incredible possibilities were hidden until now. Amazing gfx and tune, c ongratulation.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-28 02:03:04 by Buckethead Buckethead
i came just at the screenshot, and then..
rulezadded on the 2011-03-28 02:21:33 by Confused Confused
rulezadded on the 2011-03-28 12:42:19 by ... ...
This is completely spectacular. I had no idea the Z80 could possibly do full screen stuff at 50Hz. Way to go, guys. :)
rulezadded on the 2011-03-28 20:41:29 by Sundance Sundance
One of the few quality CPC prods I've seen, nice work.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 00:02:50 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
Amstrad... even better than the last!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 13:44:15 by velusip velusip
You guys made me have the most awesome moment of my day. Thank you <3.
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 14:07:51 by iks iks
New 50fps video uploaded, captured by OffseT from the real CPC and processed by Paulbrk. If you have not a CPC, see this video please, all effects runs at 50fps and youtube does not support this speed.
Thank you all!
added on the 2011-03-29 14:25:14 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
Very good demo for Amstrad CPC! It looks like a demo for Atari ST or Amiga!!!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 14:32:33 by stemartin stemartin
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 16:48:17 by abscess abscess
@Vibrator, the C128 has no 4 Mhz z80. From wikipedia C128 article: "Unfortunately, the C128 ran CP/M noticeably slower than most dedicated CP/M systems, as the Z80 processor ran at an effective speed of only 2 MHz (instead of the more common 4 MHz)"
added on the 2011-03-29 19:30:49 by wood wood
Hardcore rulez!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 21:26:48 by keito keito
Chiptune, plz!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 22:43:05 by mke mke
Incredible!!!!!! thank you !!
rulezadded on the 2011-03-29 23:00:25 by skido skido
I don't get the right words for it.... it's just fucking awesome! <3
rulezadded on the 2011-03-30 15:53:33 by nekomono nekomono
rulezadded on the 2011-03-30 22:41:14 by Fzool Fzool
rulezadded on the 2011-03-31 02:01:31 by numtek numtek
love it!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-01 02:25:30 by dstar dstar
Really good code (I guess, I don't know much about what's possible on the CPC, but the effects look better than anything else I've seen on the machine) and nice graphics. The music is ok but sounds quite uninspired to me, except for the intro which is excellent.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-01 20:51:10 by Radiant Radiant
I have not been paying much attention to the CPC demo scene since 1997 or so... I just saw this on youtube and thought: Hey, someone is cheating using an emulated CPC @ 50x speed...
So I downloaded the dsk-image and fired-up my good old CPC6128... Having coded lots of demos on the CPC back in the old days (86-97), I kind of know the CPC hardware... This is f**king awesome!!!!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 01:03:14 by NWC NWC
video is pretty nice due to 50Hz, but it´s got artifacts!

after watching it the 5th time i gotta admit the music is most_best_fitting for that non synthesizer-chip! so GOOD JOB!
oh, shit, YES.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 09:42:18 by bizun_ bizun_
Enjoyable and some very good looking effects here and there.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 10:39:06 by superplek superplek
<sarcasm>ohhh! a JS port of this, would be more smooth and optimized than this</sarcasm>
This is the real metal-shit!!!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 13:26:41 by JaK JaK
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 18:11:22 by allamulax allamulax
A work of art! love the gfx and gotta love them dots!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 19:17:31 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
Very good Rhino.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-02 19:36:15 by Reloaded Reloaded
me likes.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-03 15:14:40 by pommak pommak
rulezadded on the 2011-04-03 19:40:34 by pyksy pyksy
Jak: Diff'rent Strokes.
added on the 2011-04-03 23:33:43 by p01 p01
This prod is awesome !
rulezadded on the 2011-04-05 13:28:51 by ThoRiN ThoRiN
sfx rulez hard
rulezadded on the 2011-04-08 00:03:03 by bull bull
I appreciate some oldskool tomfoolery as much as the next guy, and this is indeed cool code and graphics. I just wish the music wasn't made up of the same three chords for 10 minutes. :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-08 10:48:16 by gloom gloom
rulezadded on the 2011-04-08 20:16:34 by stfsux stfsux
rulezadded on the 2011-04-09 07:19:23 by provod provod
rulezadded on the 2011-04-09 07:50:33 by thec thec
rulezadded on the 2011-04-09 19:48:52 by HarryPotter HarryPotter
Nice comeback...
rulezadded on the 2011-04-10 03:42:35 by artanis artanis
Love it!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-10 16:11:45 by jyooruje jyooruje
Hi Rhino, the new DL link on hotlink is really bad. Apart from the fact that is doesn't download as .ZIP (which it should). This prod should really be uploaded to scene.org instead. Stable links for cool prods rule.
added on the 2011-04-10 22:05:28 by JAC! JAC!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-10 22:27:00 by mailman mailman
You are right, I tried upload it to scene.org main ftp but the uploading process is closed by the moment. If anyone knows or can do it, would be welcome. :)
added on the 2011-04-11 20:23:31 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
rulezadded on the 2011-04-12 07:49:26 by Anelka Anelka
not much to say, other than awsome work!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-15 13:55:30 by gopher gopher
You can find a very big interview of the whole Batman Forever team on this Push'n'Pop page!
added on the 2011-04-15 19:26:27 by Hicks Hicks
Somehow I've missed this thing because I've confused this with Batman Vuelve and didn't bother checking it.

Anyway, after reading all the comments I was expecting something at the same level as Edge of Disgrace, it's not that good. It has a great soundtrack, some great effects, and a really cool flow. It's specially cool because all the demo is done in overscan.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-15 22:43:20 by xernobyl xernobyl
@xernobyl or chernobil or Yuko Shima
yes not as good but better than edge of disgrace
actually rhino disgraced the hall 8bit scene
Cool. Dig the music.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-16 01:51:22 by raer raer
I like oldschool.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-16 03:36:19 by duffman duffman
sinus dots ruled
rulezadded on the 2011-04-16 20:10:08 by xteraco xteraco
I've seen more about 8 bits/16 bits capabilities in dreams that I made awake about demoscene, keep the good stuff !
rulezadded on the 2011-04-20 12:05:12 by Bartoshe Bartoshe
Awesome prod!
Impressive technical stuff with a very good design.
More demos like this one please :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-25 02:36:43 by Strider Strider
omfg!! batman group strikes back with a vengeance. everything that makes a demo cool is in here, great mood, awesome gfx, nice design, a shitload of effects, world records, great music and the attitude, yeah there are not enough thumbs to give.
thx ...... btw here is a great utube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-rXnRU4nE&feature=related now go and watch it :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-25 10:19:44 by extralife extralife
i have just installed a 3.5" floppy to my CPC6128. all games and other demos i've copied to disk work ok. but i have copied Batman Forever to 3 floppies (720k) using CPCDiskXP v2.1 and it doesnt work. CAT doesnt list any files and run "disk does nothing.

are the file ok on this link?
added on the 2011-05-27 23:54:08 by button button
batman comes in two versions
use the dsk for the 3,5 floppy
you will only need 1 floppy as it has special loader that can read the whole disc
break: well i tried the single .dsk version too. used 720k and 1.44mb floppies... tried all different combinations but it doesnt work. maybe the loader just doesnt like my disk drive. but its weird because everything else i've tried works. only this demo.
added on the 2011-05-31 05:21:18 by button button
just a quick question: does the demo require a modified ROM? or should it work with the standard Amstrad ROM?
added on the 2011-06-11 23:34:01 by button button
nevermind. i figured out what i was doing wrong. works great.
added on the 2011-06-12 01:31:53 by button button
Excellent demo.

I was mostly impressed with texture twisting and elastic zoom.

Any insight on the CRTC techniques used for those.
I was in the CPC scene from approx. 1987 - 1992 and in the last year we worked a lot on CRTC effects, so therefore the curiosity.

As for twister is that some trick with register 2 combined with line rupture?

And elastic zoom:
I get how the vertical zooming is done, I did some trick with pallette shifting to do horizontal zooming (obviously limited scalling), this looks much better though. I reckon it's horizontal splits mixed with ? :)

Anyhow thumbs up, cool production :)
rulezadded on the 2011-06-14 21:50:18 by JCP / Psyhix JCP / Psyhix

Nice to see you again :)

If Rhino doesn't add in, I am interested in what you think to my questions. I am guessing the techinique is somehow related to what you used in the Unique big sine scroll - still annoys me I haven't figured that one out :)
I remember we could do 13 splitrasters, can you really do more scrollling splits or am I missing something....
I get it now.

Pre-calculated line per line horizontal data, displayed with line rupturing (and reg 9 rep).


For the elastic zoom I used a horizontal streching routine in realtime, and line splitting + rasters for the vertical streching.

The twister is basically a vertical scroll by hardware of a generated gfx mixed with rasters.
added on the 2011-06-16 21:53:16 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
this is incredible! very impressive!
rulezadded on the 2011-06-27 01:55:04 by phobium phobium
Thanks Rhino for explaing the techiniques involved. It's rather impressive thought out, shame we weren't seeing this back in the days it would have evolved the scene massively from the zillions of hardscrollers and rasters that were cool back then :)
fucking great!
rulezadded on the 2011-07-20 20:54:52 by marsel84 marsel84
They've just played it at Euskal. It's amazing.
rulezadded on the 2011-07-23 00:37:09 by stage7 stage7
Best Amstrad demo i ever seen :>
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 20:03:47 by Princess_Luna Princess_Luna
Fan! AmazzzzzzzzzING!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 20:07:43 by sim sim
Much better direction than Edge of Disgrace, I guess this is my favorite demo as far as 8-bit platforms go. Lovely music from Factor6 as well! Great job!
rulezadded on the 2011-09-05 20:56:43 by moozooh moozooh
Don't really know the CPC, but seems impressive and is fastpaced enough to not be one of those oldskool demos that bore me to death by showing one effect for ages before moving to the next one
rulezadded on the 2011-09-10 13:22:58 by stijn stijn
Although the name of the group sounds like a joke, there are some kick ass routines in there !
rulezadded on the 2011-09-10 20:05:46 by Ok3anos Ok3anos
The sound just kicked ass on this one!!
rulezadded on the 2011-11-01 23:47:55 by UltimateW UltimateW
What else to say ??? The best demo ever done on CPC old.
rulezadded on the 2011-11-08 17:40:20 by Kris Kris
splendid !
rulezadded on the 2011-11-15 20:22:03 by mickro mickro
Damned !
rulezadded on the 2011-11-21 00:18:42 by Cyg_BLaBla Cyg_BLaBla
This is great :)
rulezadded on the 2011-12-13 16:14:23 by Tjoppen Tjoppen
8 bits became 16 bits
rulezadded on the 2012-01-31 16:26:05 by marmakoide marmakoide
still a faster cpu than 6510 though
rulezadded on the 2012-01-31 17:30:43 by rudi rudi
Going over the public choice for Scene Awards 2011 I can't find a release that comes close to this. Never had an CPC, and I like the SID sound a bit more. But I think Optimus wrote it best:

'This is for CPC what Edge of Disgrace was for the C64.'
rulezadded on the 2012-02-06 23:27:01 by neptun neptun
"This is for CPC what Edge of Disgrace was for the C64."
rulezadded on the 2012-02-08 14:35:57 by Defiance Defiance
i only just saw this. holy ownage, batman
rulezadded on the 2012-02-25 15:13:44 by bfx bfx
rulezadded on the 2012-03-01 10:54:04 by grip grip
\o/ demo of the year
rulezadded on the 2012-03-19 08:59:08 by GbND GbND
Very impressive stuff!
rulezadded on the 2012-03-24 17:57:18 by rage rage
excellence ^_^
rulezadded on the 2012-03-29 13:00:22 by blackpawn blackpawn
pushing old hardware to the limits with style - great!
rulezadded on the 2012-04-17 21:21:56 by novel novel
rulezadded on the 2012-05-03 12:31:10 by mch mch
One year later, I still can't believe this is possible.

Amazing, Otstanding, breathtaking... every single aspect on this demo is unbelievable.
rulezadded on the 2012-05-19 23:13:47 by RedCrowx RedCrowx
Very enjoyable, I specially liked the music from the plasma scene.
rulezadded on the 2012-06-03 23:54:11 by xTr1m xTr1m
Pants off Rhino!
added on the 2012-08-03 20:46:42 by Eldrik Eldrik
rulezadded on the 2012-08-03 20:50:26 by dafuq dafuq
Holy fucking shit!!! this is ossum!!!
rulezadded on the 2012-08-03 21:15:58 by sigflup sigflup
far too overrated.
added on the 2012-08-04 15:27:43 by nosfe nosfe
rulezadded on the 2012-08-04 18:23:16 by TotO TotO
I am pure ZX Speccy fan, but can you tell me, where is my jaw after watching this ?
rulezadded on the 2012-08-23 23:32:26 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
just fucking awesome ! Congrats guys !
rulezadded on the 2012-11-25 21:35:12 by Stef Stef
Yes! wow... that was great demo!
rulezadded on the 2012-12-15 21:36:59 by CeRi CeRi
rulezadded on the 2013-01-29 09:02:20 by restorer restorer
Better then the movies.
rulezadded on the 2013-02-28 15:09:00 by SandLover SandLover
This is just one of those demos that makes you think 'the little CPC aint supposed to be able to do that shit' It's total awesome (I suspect some sort of deal with the devil or witchcraft personally)
Thumbs UP!
Greatest demo since ...
rulezadded on the 2013-06-02 22:09:41 by HAL6128 HAL6128
Definitely one of my favorites on an oldschool platform. Pure awesomeness!
rulezadded on the 2013-07-24 19:29:20 by chock chock
Wish i had more then two thumbs on my hands! BB Image BB Image
rulezadded on the 2013-07-25 13:40:55 by gaspode gaspode
Stirring the Amstrad CPC scene into action!
rulezadded on the 2013-07-27 23:33:49 by FreeFull FreeFull
rulezadded on the 2013-07-27 23:48:32 by Negrostrike Negrostrike
just stunning. makes me mad my cpc got thrown away, and that was 20 years ago..
rulezadded on the 2013-07-29 05:37:46 by mantratronic mantratronic
wow this is truly awesome!!
rulezadded on the 2013-09-12 00:12:33 by pat pat
rulezadded on the 2013-09-12 00:30:54 by Fell Fell
Into the batcave!
rulezadded on the 2013-09-13 19:58:37 by CHEF-KOCH CHEF-KOCH
best 8 bit demo ever?
rulezadded on the 2013-11-21 11:24:11 by be10n be10n
rulezadded on the 2014-01-03 23:39:06 by T$ T$
Never understood why was this demo compared to contemporary C64 releases. Even in the demo itself, they ditch Booze about a better zoomscroll made on a platform which is at least twice as powerful as a C64 (except the sound, that is). I mean, come on.

Other than that, the effects are truly amazing (at least in comparison to other CPC releases), but the design is bleak and the seemingly converted/retouched graphics take out a lot from my general experience.
rulezadded on the 2014-03-15 10:00:25 by Jailbird Jailbird
Great design!
rulezadded on the 2014-03-15 12:01:26 by Alone_Coder Alone_Coder
Effervescent drink in code form.
rulezadded on the 2014-06-25 23:39:40 by Stromasher Stromasher
rulezadded on the 2014-06-26 21:06:07 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc


rulezadded on the 2015-02-07 21:36:54 by BATMANBROTHERS BATMANBROTHERS
Zoomscroll gave me headaches :(
rulezadded on the 2015-02-22 18:25:02 by kaoD kaoD
Batman killed me. Massive demo, smart use of large data for fx and gfx, code using hw&software for 50Hz fullscreen fx,... Batman might be super hero, he's also a killer.
rulezadded on the 2015-03-05 09:17:04 by Overflow Overflow

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