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release date : april 2011
release party : Revision 2011
compo : oldskool demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 129
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rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:16:12 by starbuck starbuck
also enjoy the video
added on the 2011-04-23 23:18:13 by decca decca
Cool!
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:22:51 by Stebo Stebo
the first effect got me hooked, the rest is awesome concidering the platform (2ch sound and all)
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:25:31 by thec thec
Great effects!
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:26:47 by hollowman hollowman
Some great effects in here :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:27:09 by xernobyl xernobyl
very nice!
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:29:34 by bfx bfx
very nice!
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:29:51 by xyz xyz
nice one
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:37:03 by psenough psenough
Fucking yeah! Real nice glitch, and finally a fast irqloader on plus/4! \o/

...and finally a modern demo that actually uses the fact that the plus/4 got more than 16 colours...
rulezcdc added on the 2011-04-23 23:37:15 by edhellon edhellon
Good stuff, and extra thumbs up for doing a proper Plsu4 demo with TED sound - no god-damn SID-card needed!

Some very impressive effects as well (I got a nice little Arte/Sanity-vibe going from the effect shown in the top-right corner! :))
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:40:21 by Sdw Sdw
On the stream, totally WTF :D
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:41:50 by mudlord mudlord
Enjoyed it a lot on the stream. WELL DONE!
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:43:35 by CONS CONS
Awesome on every field!
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:46:43 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
this was cool. and i liked the glitch
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:47:13 by blala blala
WOW!
rulez added on the 2011-04-23 23:57:52 by p01 p01
great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K90KXEiHTYg
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:01:48 by MurphyEXD MurphyEXD
Tnx! You push this machine to the limit!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:09:35 by unbeliever^x7m unbeliever^x7m
Rulez!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:10:07 by Emod Emod
Nice!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:28:39 by rachy rachy
Yep, great stuff
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:31:06 by the-other-pigpen the-other-pigpen
Great!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:43:54 by ham ham
Rocks!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:48:32 by micdune micdune
Wow
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 00:57:33 by BackSpace BackSpace
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:04:34 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
Sweet!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:10:54 by samurai samurai
Sweet.
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:15:07 by ulrick ulrick
Great stuff!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:18:46 by Soya Soya
Will win the 8Bit Democompo, I Guess... nice demo and ruling effects!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:27:22 by vscd vscd
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rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:28:32 by wullon wullon
Respekt! TEK is back :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:32:21 by FOSTER FOSTER
proper stuff
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:47:12 by zefyros zefyros
oooaahhhhh
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 01:56:12 by elend elend
nice one
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 02:13:50 by phoenix phoenix
regardless of the awesome visual/technical content, that was the most awesome Plus4 track I ever heard!
added on the 2011-04-24 03:33:18 by Alpha C Alpha C
thumb up goddamnit
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 03:33:48 by Alpha C Alpha C
Ruling.
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 04:07:35 by knoeki 🍼 knoeki 🍼
Start transition and floortunnel turned me on, rest is icing on the cake :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 04:22:22 by Photon Photon
By which I mean the thumbcake
added on the 2011-04-24 04:22:41 by Photon Photon
nero is still alive :) but where are you . u are not here at rev11. best 4k.
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 08:53:41 by Akustikrausch Akustikrausch
best 8bit. i´m sorry. tired ;)
Awesome effects!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 08:57:34 by Optimus Optimus
I liked everything except the music.
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 10:55:39 by xeron xeron
All I seem to get on WinVice Plus 4 is static or a crash, but I watched the video and it was damn fine.
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 11:16:38 by Gmitts Gmitts
Nice stuff, seems that VICE can't pull all those tricks off, so here's more debugging data for them :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 11:19:56 by visy visy
GMitts, visy: Try YAPE!
http://yape.homeserver.hu/

Some setting tips:

Screen/Double Size
Screen/Display Type/CRT Emulation
Settings/Drive 8 Setup/Drive Emulation/1541 CPU level
Settings/Sound Settings/Enable TED Sound
added on the 2011-04-24 11:49:56 by MurphyEXD MurphyEXD
Cheers :)
added on the 2011-04-24 12:17:53 by Gmitts Gmitts
Too bad the TED sound is a bit noisy, but Bauknecht and TEK is a sure killer combo!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 12:46:41 by Exin Exin
Really great prod :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 13:23:44 by rez rez
Hats and pants off for this
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 13:26:53 by Corial Corial
Great stuff :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 13:47:41 by msqrt msqrt
was quite a powerful blast to watch :D Rocked hard :D
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 13:50:33 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
Geiler Loader!
Sehr Geil!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 13:55:12 by bodo^rab bodo^rab
yo yo yo!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 15:06:03 by gopher gopher
what's the machine exactly ?
added on the 2011-04-24 15:07:11 by Bartoshe Bartoshe
Excellent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K90KXEiHTYg
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 15:40:30 by ISL ISL
Thumb for the demo, but that's a good thing I can turn off the volume on my pc, because frankly speaking it's the most painfully horrible sounds I've been hearing in ages. Does really TED sucks that much?
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 16:42:05 by Dbug Dbug
ruuuuuleeeeez!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 16:47:35 by wiseman wiseman
Nice one!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 17:26:45 by AMB AMB
Wow, what a trip! The music is somewhat special, but for TED, it's highly original and doesn't sound like lacking one voice and multiple volume registers badly, so thumb up for that, too!
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 18:36:37 by Paranoid Paranoid
Great demo!
But where were the c64 prods? Is the 64 scene giving up the easter parties? Only LCP & X ftw?
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 20:27:22 by nbm nbm
gr8 one. too bad though the music is sooo fugly @ times.
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 22:05:41 by comankh comankh
horrible music. everything else is pure awesomeness
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 22:18:34 by mueslee mueslee
I love the colors. Never thought I would say this about an old-school demo :-)

And actually the music was not bad at all.
rulez added on the 2011-04-24 23:59:18 by pixtur pixtur
great stuff!
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 00:29:49 by wood wood
Nice stuff!
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 00:53:26 by Strider Strider
I´m no expert but this looked better than many C64 prods and the plus4 is an older and weaker (technically) platform, isn`t it?

Great demo, well the music is not my cup of tea, but dlooking to the hardware limitations (2 channels only?) its okay and fitted the demo well.

If you can do such a demo on the plus4, what could you possibly achieve on a C64? :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 01:07:08 by Skyrunner Skyrunner
On plus4 machine this demo is absolutely great and here is my thumb.
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 01:25:14 by jack-3d jack-3d
it's actually a newer and weaker platform if i'm not mistaken. also this prod really rules!
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 02:34:10 by madMixx madMixx
cool
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 02:38:49 by slack slack
I like how they renamed the c64 demo compo mere hours before its start to accommodate this one. Probably better than to cancel said compo and throw this demo into the wild compo.

Anyway, besides the repetitive and annoying music and the general incoherence issues (near dutch color scheme for the ending parts, wtf?), I liked it.
added on the 2011-04-25 08:09:10 by tomaes tomaes
skyrunner/madmixx: it's newer and has a significantly faster cpu (~1.7mhz instead of ~1mhz) but crappier video/sound chips. (though the TED does support 121 colors)
added on the 2011-04-25 10:33:37 by ryg ryg
Sweet! Needs more Batman though.
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 10:47:36 by break break
ryg the cpu isn't "significantly" faster.. i can port for instance the "ball" to c64 without major optimizations, and it will be equally as fast. the problem is that the ted slows the machine significantly down if not in the border.. we must switch to doubleslowness aswell because of the loader many times, (so it's slower than a c64 at many times). but ryg, great to hear youre alive! :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 10:49:22 by mad mad
well done guys!
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 11:17:50 by hunta hunta
Can't manage the shock into me yet, I would say wb TEK wb BKN but I simply can't turn my mind to an healthy state. Love the TED tune, there's lotta bass on a chip with no bass notes at all.
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 12:01:10 by Luca/FIRE Luca/FIRE
Very cool. The music was rather bleh though.
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 15:08:58 by Mystra Mystra
Fantastic in every aspect.
Big thx for TED music too.
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 15:16:51 by YERZMYEY/H-PRG YERZMYEY/H-PRG
respect!
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 20:44:40 by Spewk Spewk
amazing! huge and smooth effects. excellent work. well done guys.
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 21:30:27 by Skate Skate
first I was like ...

O_O

...and then the voxel landscape came up.
Does the term "insane" ring any bell ?
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 22:46:50 by d0DgE d0DgE
raw power
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 22:55:34 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
<3
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 23:02:28 by mog mog
yay! wonderful! belissimo!
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 23:16:41 by Kojote Kojote
rulez added on the 2011-04-25 23:31:58 by moqui moqui
At first impact this doesn't seem to be a Plus 4 demo!

Really outstanding stuff!!!
rulezcdc added on the 2011-04-25 23:54:47 by SoDa7 SoDa7
<3 <3 <3
I demand more!
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 00:05:55 by titus^rab titus^rab
Well done.
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 00:10:25 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
what most them said.
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 00:55:22 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Wow, lot of beautiful effects, already the loadereffect gives great vibes.
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 02:23:05 by fiveofive fiveofive
no way!
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 04:00:13 by neptun neptun
this shit is good!!!
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 10:49:24 by ewerybody ewerybody
Ok talked to krill again about his loaderport. It was my fault to say the loader slows something down.. it's the fastest irqloader on plus4 and consumes only the cylces we give to it.. so we finally have that cool loader for our machine.. Big thanks Krill!
added on the 2011-04-26 11:01:44 by mad mad
First of all big thanks to Krill from me too. Krill is quite a beast: After he was done porting, I received one single version of the loader and it ran like a charm on emu and real-iron without the necissity of any further debugging. Prussian accuracy ;)

To clarify on the machine-speed-topic: In the display-area the cpu runs slightly below c64-speed and doubles the MhZ in the border-area. I don't remember the figures, but on a "normal" screenmode you get about 2000-4000 cycles/frame extra compared to a c64. Sounds like a big advantage but you also have twice the amount of DMA-Cycles (=badlines) than on c64, because the videomatrix is twice as big.

For example Mad's ball-part (which my wife correctly identified as the easter-egg) works on a special screenmode that requires even twice the amount of dma-cycles - compared to a normal screenmode. For other kinds of demo-effects you need to have two STA's to write to the videomatrix. So lots of times this "double-clock-rate-advantage" melts down to "nothing" at best. There are lots of occasions where you end up having less cycles than on c64.

In my understanding Krills Loader switches down to the single-clock-rate for mainly three reasons:

1. The Floppy runs at roughly 1MhZ and thus you won't have any advantages from "polling" the data at double-clock-rate.

2. Timing at double-clock-rate is annoyingly difficult and inherently instable because you still have 5 or so cycles per rasterline that run at single-speed. The horror...

3. It's an irq-loader that can be interrupted at any time. You simply can't put a detection of clock-speed-changes into a *fast*-loader in an efficient way.

Hope i wasn't talking too much bullshit here. Anyway: If it looks the loader slowed down something in the demo, its because i failed to integrate it properly ;)
added on the 2011-04-26 11:36:43 by degauss degauss
Amazing!
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 11:53:57 by irwin irwin
Like.
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 13:14:35 by raer raer
amazing !!!!
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 13:45:19 by Green Green
TED's "aquarelle"-ish palette in action, in an awesome demo. This geek here started on a C-116 in 1984, and thanks the makers of this demo for making the 264 series still kick ass in 2011.
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 17:15:19 by Hoild Hoild
Huge thumb up! Massive effects
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 18:30:58 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCboLZlNYvc for HQ version
added on the 2011-04-26 18:41:23 by leGend leGend
Music is just horror but .. effects are very nice
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 18:45:11 by leGend leGend
The voxel scene itself deserve the thumb-up
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 21:08:07 by RaHoW RaHoW
great stuff!
rulez added on the 2011-04-26 21:18:53 by Yarrick Yarrick
Awesome, absolute great !
rulez added on the 2011-04-27 00:27:37 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
awesome!
rulez added on the 2011-04-27 01:42:55 by Aech_rom Aech_rom
I have no idea what plus4 is capable of, but I really enjoyed it nevertheless.
rulez added on the 2011-04-27 02:12:24 by teel teel
very nice and one of the first i seen on the platform
rulez added on the 2011-04-27 06:43:22 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
@degauss: See, I told you everything is going to be just fine. :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-27 17:35:45 by Charlie Charlie
good.
rulez added on the 2011-04-27 19:20:07 by necronomic0 necronomic0
@charlie: yeah, you really saved the day! thank you so much! ;)
added on the 2011-04-27 22:07:27 by degauss degauss
Worst music I ever heard! :) 9/10
rulez added on the 2011-04-27 22:09:19 by Lacoste Lacoste
World record! The first C16/Plus4 demo which got coupdecoeur. Congrats again!
added on the 2011-04-28 07:45:10 by Lacoste Lacoste
Awesome
rulez added on the 2011-04-28 11:36:10 by infant infant
Superb & Awesome
rulez added on the 2011-04-29 15:57:19 by sINk sINk
yep
rulez added on the 2011-04-29 21:12:41 by kyv kyv
schweinegeil
rulez added on the 2011-04-29 22:32:48 by Sir Sir
just great!
rulez added on the 2011-04-29 22:55:40 by m0d m0d
I know nothing about this platform, but I believe the effects rule. I even liked the music :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-29 23:00:52 by Hyde Hyde
wow! c16 +4 was the first computer i ever owned, i never thought i would see it perform such kick ass routines, you guys totally pwnd this platform, really great demo guys! :)
rulez added on the 2011-04-29 23:26:28 by keito keito
i'm giving my best being unbiased. but hell, how can one not like this! fucking quadruple high five!
rulez added on the 2011-04-30 00:02:28 by dalezy dalezy
Degauss and the BKN made it Haziasan :)

Kickass prod!

PLUS/4 POWER!
rulez added on the 2011-04-30 00:08:09 by csio csio
That rotating "flare tunnel" or what to call it looks nice and smooth.
rulez added on the 2011-04-30 13:57:47 by evil evil
Not bad. :)
added on the 2011-04-30 20:22:59 by AntDude AntDude
several kickass effects, but the music ruined it for me. gotta love the flare tunnel
added on the 2011-05-01 13:15:18 by Duckers Duckers
A bunch of very very nice effects on a humble plus4. Love it!
rulez added on the 2011-05-01 14:00:54 by flibblesan flibblesan
this blew me away at the compo!
rulez added on the 2011-05-01 18:46:42 by v3nom v3nom
thumbs up for obscure 8 bit platform.

But, could anyone please explain why this is so much better than the other plus/4 demos?

also, the music made my ears bleed.
rulez added on the 2011-05-02 00:20:13 by Calexico Calexico
insane once again!
rulez added on the 2011-05-03 08:29:55 by toxie toxie
yesyesyes!
rulez added on the 2011-05-05 14:06:12 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
The 8bit equivalent of an Amiga Ephidrena demo.
rulez added on the 2011-05-06 00:47:34 by Gargaj Gargaj
Coolness. Good effects, great tune, and really nicely put together.
rulez added on the 2011-05-06 13:19:30 by psonice psonice
creative fx as always from bagknægt
rulez added on the 2011-05-06 22:05:32 by cruzer cruzer
btw:

The Electronik Knights --> Welcome back! missed you a lot! ♥

BAUKNÄCKT --> never saw any demo of you in your active time, but lots of ppl asked me already if i saw this or that one of you ;) please stay (again) for a while, stay forever (now) !

( same for TEK, and i watched some bauknecht-demos for sure by now ;) )
yay!
rulez added on the 2011-05-18 03:48:39 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
Well, I even liked the music. It has its charm. Veryimpressive effects.
rulez added on the 2011-05-22 05:09:58 by tompee tompee
To the music-haters: Dudes, the TED (video/sound chip in the cbm 264 line) isn't really capable of much more than your 80s digital watch. This is no SID. Considering the platform, I rate the music quite high (and of course I am totally neutral judging this, being a Bauknecht member!)
rulez added on the 2011-05-24 13:55:51 by sire sire
I can't run it in WinVice C+4 emu :(
added on the 2011-08-10 20:27:46 by Abrimaal Abrimaal
WinVice for plus4 is suboptimal, you could try "yape" which does a better "mapping" of the plus4 hardware.
added on the 2011-08-10 20:42:58 by mad mad
yeah!
rulez added on the 2011-08-15 22:21:20 by aech aech
Hilariously good and past-paced, considering the platform. Perfect length, too!
rulez added on the 2012-02-13 13:10:22 by moozooh moozooh
nice!
rulez added on the 2012-03-06 16:22:11 by las las
.
rulez added on the 2012-05-23 14:00:07 by dafuq dafuq
!!
rulez added on the 2012-08-18 23:15:16 by Frequent Frequent
Excellent effects and graphics. The music is what it is but of course it's TED so you can't blame the musician.
rulez added on the 2012-11-05 00:02:32 by Preacher Preacher
this kicks ass
rulez added on the 2013-01-16 12:24:58 by nekomono nekomono
awesome!!!
rulez added on the 2014-08-13 12:47:47 by spritus spritus
great!
rulez added on the 2016-09-20 07:14:37 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
:)
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