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numb res by Carillon & Cyberiad [web] & Fairlight [web]
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release date : april 2011
release party : The Gathering 2011
compo : combined demo
ranked : 2nd
  • rulez 215
  • is ok 23
  • sucks 9
popularity : 5%
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  • cdcs 7
alltime top: #74
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Damn Smash. This made my week. Thanks.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 14:48:22 by BoyC BoyC
fuckings!!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 14:49:38 by psenough psenough
Nice sound and vision
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 14:51:53 by mSW mSW
Looks great on RED AND BLUE glasses. I want a 3D screen :(
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 14:51:58 by xernobyl xernobyl
Awesome prod! Best demo of the weekend for sure!

smash you rocks :D
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 14:53:28 by rez rez
Fantastic.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 14:59:11 by gloom gloom
so beautiful...
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:03:36 by starbuck starbuck
looked very good on the revision bigscreen :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:03:45 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Absolutely wonderful! Thank you guys!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:10:41 by Mystra Mystra
i like the first minute of the music (but it gets somehow boring) and dstops visuals but the fluid effect is somehow overused here.

i was always expecting a huge liftoff but then it was suddenly over. plus it leads nowhere (or i don't get it), so this is only a piggy for me.
added on the 2011-04-26 15:12:28 by pro pro
Of course Smash's particle routine is fucking incredible and the liquid physics were very impressive, but as a demo I found it really bland and boring. I've never been a fan of mono colourschemes in demos and found it really repetetive.

I've come to expect a lot more in the way of cutting edge design and artistic touches from Fairlights and CNCD.
added on the 2011-04-26 15:13:08 by Wade Wade
Loved it!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:16:56 by okkie okkie
Some very nice parts & camera-work and overall very stylish. Nice!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:17:03 by numtek numtek
Well the effects and production rule for sure. Have to agree a bit with Wade though, something's missing this time. Maybe I need to see it in 3D. Easy thumb up for the codepr0n and soundtrack, though.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:17:30 by break break
instant love
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:18:14 by nytrik nytrik
Next time particle ribbons please thanks.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:19:36 by slyspy slyspy
shit just got real.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:19:36 by Gargaj Gargaj
Perfect in all ways.
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-04-26 15:20:24 by LLB LLB
Actually worked better in my living room than it did on the screen at the party, IMHO. It's a much more intimate affair than the usual demo grandstanding. Yay for being different.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:20:41 by menace menace
For giving a 16 year old kid demoscene code inspiration!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:21:06 by magic magic
Oh wow. Them dots on my screen.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:26:45 by harism harism
I agree with Wade.
This is a awesome demo: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=74

Numb Res - not. Ultra boring.
sucksadded on the 2011-04-26 15:30:10 by irwin irwin
shit just got real.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:31:44 by quisten quisten
Fuck Donald Trump; Smash for president!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:34:14 by kusma kusma
apart from the fluids this looked kinda recycled and empty to me. sorry :(
sucksadded on the 2011-04-26 15:36:45 by rasmus/loonies rasmus/loonies
feel boring.........
added on the 2011-04-26 15:40:21 by Pandafox Pandafox
This should have won the TG demo compo.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:45:05 by datsua datsua
would have been good as a 64k, but too repetitive for a 40mb thing
added on the 2011-04-26 15:45:18 by mop mop
Thumbs up especially for the liquid system, pretty great for realtime.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:49:57 by msqrt msqrt
Numb res is good. Easily the best in the compo and the best demo production of the year so far.

For me what makes it great is not only the graphics or the music but also the timing/ambience. It is 6 minutes. Does it feel more than 3? no. It is unassuming in taking its time to develop at the start. And when you get the fade out in the middle (and audience think that it is over) BAM! more to come.

I like the music very much... I wonder where they will take us next, after Socrates and Mike Oldfield. What's left in your dad's vinyl record collection, maybe some early Genesis? Try "Selling England by the pound" from 1973, it's quite good actually.

The demo does run very, very slow on my machine. And this is the problem I have with this: I bet that you can have 90-95% of the effect by taking many shortcuts. I only say this because I've seen other similar "liquidy" stuff that look 90% as real as this yet they run much faster on the same machine. I may be talking out of my arse now but:

Take Magellan. Cut out all the coder's colours and concentrate on replicating some of the effects from numb res. Would it work? yes, no?

rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:52:17 by Navis Navis
Awesome prod indeed! Thought I'd have to go for a german demoparty to ever see a CNCD/Fairlight-demo live, but miracles do happen! :D

But, does those numbers have any proper meaning? And if not, where do they come from?
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:55:26 by JoMs JoMs
geat soundtrack and amazing flow (literally)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 15:58:45 by gopher gopher
Navis, that's a good point - it really doesn't feel like 6 minutes.
added on the 2011-04-26 16:01:32 by msqrt msqrt
Awesome music. Reminds me a Tekkon Kinkreet track from Plaid.
Camera paths could have some extra love, maybe some roll. Maybe the effect has these limitations. Really neat code and effects.
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-04-26 16:04:29 by mrdoob mrdoob
thank you, carillon & cyberiad & fairlight, for this very nice demo!
wow - this style keeps me in this "magic moment" the whole time - music & vocals, visuals & timings fit together perfectly this time. it's really very well made. I really can't wait to see your next release :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:06:02 by e2020 e2020
Very very nice indeed.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:07:18 by maytz maytz
So, so good.
Watched it again in anaglyphic 3D and was blown away. The music works well too.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:15:24 by jonnyram jonnyram
Not as good as your previous efforts but I'm surprised you still managed to pull of something that doesn't feel completely rehashed on this same concept.

The track is once again great and the direction is spot on. But the overall composition of the scenes could've been a bit better.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:19:29 by noby noby
Beautiful! Wonderful visuals and audio, great presentation. Perhaps the numbers concept feels a bit shallow.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:21:05 by Sander Sander
I can not thumb this down, that would be lunacy given the technical aspects and otherwise solid content. But Smash, I sincerely mean this, perhaps refresh your concepts a bit left and right. Your productions/code are worth it.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:23:17 by superplek superplek
Wow, awesome. Wonderful.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:24:49 by elend elend
LIFE ROCKS
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:28:32 by wullon wullon
As soda7 just said on irc, the title of this demo looks like an anagram of "dumb rez" :D
added on the 2011-04-26 16:42:51 by rez rez
LMAO

As I might know, there's not good blood flowing between FLT and Razor1911!
added on the 2011-04-26 16:44:22 by SoDa7 SoDa7
The music is and it's combination with the mysterious set of numbers is just wonderful! Even though this is the fourth or so fairlight demo using their particle magic, I find it's the first one where effects and atmosphere perfectly fit together.

Also: it gains a lot in the 3D version
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:46:46 by urs urs
Beautiful.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:50:01 by Sesse Sesse
I thought it was a well executed, but boring and overestimated demo. When the paticles started falling on an "hidden" text i changed my mind and find the demo more interesting. So here's your thumb!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:51:35 by baah baah
Dear FLT&CNCD, I love this demo!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:51:42 by V0yager V0yager
hyvä homma dessu, ehkä liian musta ;)
added on the 2011-04-26 16:52:22 by leGend leGend
My feeling on this is mixed.

Technically, I was wondering when you would come up with fluids with surface and all. Job done. :-) Besides this, the demo has a feeling of same stuff again, but while it looks less massive than Agenda and Ceasefire, it's also more coherent.

I don't understand all the ideas conveyed, but it is still highly enjoyable. Actually if I had not read Navis' comment, I wouldn't have noticed this was more than three minutes long.

And something really nice is how it's screaming "we had fun making it".

At last, I'm always happy to see prods in anaglyph, and this one does it very well. Those one dimensional moves work very well.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:52:34 by Zavie Zavie
the particle stuff you've been showing us these couple of years was superb, but this one is just above that...

also, any chances to see it with 3dvision?
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 16:52:47 by ton ton
The beginning of the music is giving me some strong Akira vibes somehow.

The demo seems to have a strange bug on my system (i7/4890/Win7-64) - the liquid simulations are totally missing - the other gfx (particle stuff, numbers etc.) are present, but not the liquids.
added on the 2011-04-26 17:02:50 by Sdw Sdw
the utter joykiller of downloading this demo and finding out it again runs 5/10fps (just like the last 3 other 'particle'demos from flt ;/ )
added on the 2011-04-26 17:04:12 by alien^PDX alien^PDX
Sdw: yeah the liquids don't work on ati cards, at least not on the 4000 series. Same problem is on Frameranger.
added on the 2011-04-26 17:04:55 by noby noby
numb res - mumb ret - lumb reu - iumb rev - humb rew - gumb rex - fumb rey - eumb rez

7 letters of difference (meaning 777, aka Razor 1911)

It's almost confirmed.
added on the 2011-04-26 17:05:44 by SoDa7 SoDa7
I am out of words, but I really felt that familiar feeling of "machines can have emotions too".
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:08:43 by decipher decipher
my TG fav. it's pleasing to watch, coherently, smoothly designed. I'll watch this a few times for sure.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:16:07 by jaw jaw
Solid.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:28:06 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
Very nice.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:31:59 by knl knl
Quote:
The demo seems to have a strange bug on my system (i7/4890/Win7-64) - the liquid simulations are totally missing - the other gfx (particle stuff, numbers etc.) are present, but not the liquids.


I had this happen as well! i7/ATI Radeon HD 5800
added on the 2011-04-26 17:34:21 by okkie okkie
I love it. But I keep wondering if the numbers have any meaning.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:46:20 by pixtur pixtur
I love this. Flawless excecution.
The only thing I'm missing is aural cues when you go super slo-mo.


PS:
I'm having real trouble with the fact that there is a user called irwin thumbing pretty much everything down. Go fuck yourself.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:46:57 by irvin irvin
Great stuff again Smash.

I'm sure you now have a dedicated room to store all those statuettes, if not, you will soon need one. At some point you will also need your own "best particles" award or something ;)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:49:19 by keops keops
Enjoyed the particle part, loved the fluid part the most!

Damn, where did I put my old 3d cardboard glasses.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:57:07 by neptun neptun
This is beautiful. Loved the number station voice, really felt sympathy to it.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 17:58:43 by glxblt glxblt
irvin: I did mistake him for you in the beginning, but I realized you would never be such a lamer, is all good! :)
added on the 2011-04-26 18:01:47 by okkie okkie
It sounded somewhat like a 6 minute version of Pink Floyd's intro to Sorrow ( Hawking's voiceover).

It's definitely some nifty grown-up stuff :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 18:11:12 by d0DgE d0DgE
<3
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 18:20:58 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
wow- ran smooth, very cool in 3d... really beautiful.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 18:21:27 by 4kum4 4kum4
Mind blowing as always!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 18:27:20 by 71M 71M
one thousand three hundred and thirty seven.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 19:14:35 by gasman gasman
I would like number 12345
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 19:16:52 by neoneye neoneye
BINGO!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 19:17:04 by Maali Maali
Scene poetry that doesn't suck (and that does sound great).
Cheers !
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 19:25:22 by willbe willbe
Did. Not! Suck. At. All!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 19:52:01 by hornet hornet
Beautiful and inspiring as always!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 20:13:50 by Devistator Devistator
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 20:16:22 by the-other-pigpen the-other-pigpen
A Beauty.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 20:17:58 by Sir Sir
I am still amazed how utterly beautiful this production is. I love every single piece of it and keep watching it, stunned with envy. I am not sure if the technical achievement justifies the typical Fairlight arrogance of the nfo-file, though. Honestly, I don't care about the resolution of marching cubes or number of digits in the particle count. For me, it is the perfect symbiosis of music, animation and style the makes it the my favorite demo so far.

For years, I've been afraid it would come from Smash/CNCD. Well, resistance is futile, I guess.
added on the 2011-04-26 20:23:27 by pixtur pixtur
This demo should be part of the NASA program....
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 20:41:35 by Ok3anos Ok3anos
I'd like to contribute to what Pixtur and Navis have already said by adding that what this production really has going for it (in addition to the flawless execution and super-high production value) is tenderness. You actually fall a little in love with it.
added on the 2011-04-26 20:48:55 by gloom gloom
another failed...

more and more cool particules, but black screen after big "end"

sucksadded on the 2011-04-26 20:53:28 by bermudatatooine bermudatatooine
nice flow!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 21:01:01 by TMA TMA
What a prod ! Excellent, the music is marvellous and the visual is well made around it. One of my all time favorite !
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 21:05:46 by u2 u2
more particles, but hey, that was exceptionally beautiful.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 21:12:34 by Alpha C Alpha C
Magic ambience even if this prod is in b&w.
Fluid physic is just so awesome.

Music is very relaxing, btw is there a hidden message with the lyrics ?
It sounds like a "spy" code :D
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 21:14:47 by BackSpace BackSpace
good..but it's not my cup of tee!
added on the 2011-04-26 21:15:41 by s!Nk s!Nk
The second part was better, but nothing really new. Add more colors next time :) and Don't show the same effects over and over :)
added on the 2011-04-26 21:46:22 by Xiny6581 Xiny6581
Like the tune, flow and relaxed vibe.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 21:53:43 by trc_wm trc_wm
Barely any colours used, a soothing soundtrack, a number myth being started and this incredible black milk. Wow, wow, wow..

And what Okeanos said!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 22:01:16 by mog mog
not just coder-pr0n, but everything is pr0n.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 22:09:04 by rudi rudi
Totally breathtaking. Beats Ceasefire imo.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 22:40:48 by tFt tFt
From the technical point of view, I'm speechless - especially the second part with marching cubed (or whatever?) fluid flow approximation was astonishing. Please, publish a paper on the technique you've used to make it possible!
On the other hand, I dislike the design. I really loved your former fluid-based prods, but this is just way too much uncorrelated. The first part is totally off the second one. It's coder porn, and since I'm a coder myself, I do admire this with all my heart, but the overall impression is just insufficient for a thumb-up, let alone a cdc.
added on the 2011-04-26 22:54:43 by kbi kbi
Beautiful demo!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 22:54:51 by 0rel 0rel
I've watched it in 3d now and it's a much more interesting experience and has earned my thumb. And though the music is quite nice, that voice over is soo damn irritating!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 23:10:48 by Wade Wade
cool visuals. but the numbers and vocals wtf..
added on the 2011-04-26 23:17:39 by nemesis nemesis
My poor GTX260 cries in agony... but seriously, hats off. I'm striving for this level of direction and design.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-26 23:41:20 by zoom zoom
I liked this one Smash :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 00:33:13 by r3D^rgba r3D^rgba
This is absolutely divine and makes me want to commit serious crimes in order to obtain extra 3D glasses.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 01:19:15 by Shifter Shifter
I really dig the design. And this works amazingly well with those crappy anaglyph glasses.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 01:31:53 by sub sub
It's super tricky displaying physics sims in a way that is both technically and artistically interesting. This demo does both, so hats off.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 01:36:56 by Hyde Hyde
The liquids parts was cool! The first part was a bit too slow for my taste. Still, impressive :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 01:42:03 by shash shash
very nice saw this on the revision stream =)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 06:46:29 by Queen bittin Queen bittin
amazing! wow!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 08:06:20 by chavez chavez
what rasmus said :(
y4n: dont fucking start. what rasmus said was true, so fucking quit your namevoting.
sucksadded on the 2011-04-27 08:16:33 by mudlord mudlord
The fluids were my least favorite, and they were still great :) That hairy stuff is just lovely.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 08:28:53 by ferris ferris
waohh ... dots! I love DOTS ... and this one here is fuckin' brilliant!!! awesome job!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 08:46:07 by slippy slippy
Yes , hats off !
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 08:47:53 by scg_ scg_
Nice demo with few things.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 09:16:38 by ulrick ulrick
It was a real privilege to see this come together, fantastic work from everyone involved.

Plus if you like the music, be sure to check out Stereo Wildlife's web site here:
http://www.soundcloud.com/stereowildlife
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-04-27 09:22:53 by ruairi [rc55] ruairi [rc55]
Fairlight know how to put particles to good use! ;) Very smooth production, very enjoyable!:)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 09:50:59 by Salinga Salinga
@ruairi [rc55]: link not working!?
added on the 2011-04-27 09:51:42 by Salinga Salinga
Nice blend of fluid simulation and particle rendering. Not really on par with Agenda or Ceasefire but still quite nice. Does also manage to emote a bit as well :).
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 10:34:48 by elfan elfan
As in the other particle demos it creates a really nice atmosphere and is well executed. Like it.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 11:22:14 by raer raer
Old improved code with some great music/feeling. I liked watching it twice even if it's a bit slow even on my GTS450.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 12:52:27 by Optimus Optimus
Beautiful... I'm really looking forward to watch it in 3D! :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 13:54:05 by Zeila Zeila
worth a piggy. impressive, but not when it comes for destop & co.
added on the 2011-04-27 14:27:09 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Any chance of the 3d video being uploaded to youtube using youtube's actual 3d support? I don't have that particular type of 3d glasses, but youtube will happily convert it (and also play it for everyone with a 3d screen) if it's uploaded correctly.

(Not watched the demo, so for now I'll judge by the screenshot and give it a pig :)
added on the 2011-04-27 14:48:39 by psonice psonice
too slow on my computer. concept is fine.
sucksadded on the 2011-04-27 14:57:10 by Bartoshe Bartoshe
made me shit my pants...in a good way.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 17:35:36 by button button
Brilliant as usual

but ATI fix please???
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 18:45:58 by efecto efecto
oh shit yes PLEASE MORE
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 18:55:55 by provod provod
Hypnotic, fresh and awesome music. I love this.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 18:56:35 by lemonade lemonade
Fucking great in all of the aspects =)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 19:05:10 by XT95 XT95
Amazingly good looking liquid part
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 20:59:09 by JAC! JAC!
argh! my favouritest demo in ages.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 21:04:16 by parcelshit parcelshit
i'm so in love with this production. beautiful in every aspect. thank you.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 21:05:42 by prm prm
the fluid at the end appears to be triangulated with marching cubes. how so fast and with so many particles?
Ok demo. slow start, nice ending, too "monochrome" for me, but nice effects, good work
added on the 2011-04-27 21:11:49 by bull bull
I like it! Surprisingly, because the music is really experimental. I am happy that you keep exploring new things like this.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 21:21:03 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
Another nice soundtrack almost ruined by uneccessary and annoying vocals. Second part saves it. Basically, what nemesis said.
added on the 2011-04-27 21:22:05 by StingRay StingRay
Rather than downloading absrd's extracted song, simply pay £6 for the whole album. It's friggin' awesome.

stereowildlife.co.uk

Support the artists.
added on the 2011-04-27 21:55:17 by irvin irvin
@Irvin: The artists are pretty well supported by the price money I think ;)
ok watched it a few times now, and it is beautiful, and as usual with recent FLT demos it allows you to fill in the gaps and make your own opinion on what you've seen, which is good, it provokes thought and emotion, the link between music and visuals blends perfectly, they were born to be together, great stuff as usual :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 22:21:40 by keito keito
Fairlight demos are always a bit hit and miss for me.. technically, usually a hit.. technically on my hardware always a complete miss :D But the design is also hit + miss. Sometimes I love it, sometimes it can feel too ad bureau or game trailer.

But this time.. it's like all the attempts to impress got abandoned along the way, and a few nice effects were thrown in to make a demo. Same with the design, it's not got that "we have pro designers" feel like some of the past demos, it just has the design it needs to get the job done.

And that's why it works for me. It's not trying to blow me away with design and code, so I can kick back and enjoy it more. The design and code are there to be appreciated too, less in your face perhaps, but all the more enjoyable for it. It's more mature, and I think it'll be longer lasting. Best flt & friends demo in years.

Now, I'm off to check out the rest of stereo wildlife's music, not heard of them before :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-27 23:57:45 by psonice psonice
I looove this!
And the speech sounds like narrator.device
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 00:16:30 by rutra80 rutra80
Wowsers, just watched this in 3D! Unbelievable detail, just wish my rig would push it at 60! :(
added on the 2011-04-28 00:20:45 by 71M 71M
Oh wow! Words are failing here.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 01:23:17 by CiH CiH
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rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 11:03:00 by pandur pandur
Holy moly! I just watched THE 3D version with blue/red glasses in the dark. I Challenge everybody to do THE Same and comment again.. In was in another world completly inside THE demo. Awesomeness cant discribe it.
added on the 2011-04-28 15:18:05 by magic magic
I wasn't very impressed by the 3d.
added on the 2011-04-28 15:19:47 by noby noby
That's Numberwang!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 15:22:24 by kb_ kb_
Seriously tho, I've always loved when FLT/CNCD lay off their trademark pretentiousness (nfo aside :) just because of the sheer beauty of what comes out when they do. I can understand the criticism (and tbh it's a bit empty now and then and doesn't work too well in daylight) but to paraphrase a conversation I had with Reed at Revision: The ability to appreciate demos like this comes with age. Luckily I'm old.

Now where are my Barbie branded 3D glasses when I need them :D
added on the 2011-04-28 15:27:20 by kb_ kb_
Don't like it but you'll have to appreciate the technical accomplishments and the effort put into this.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 15:29:41 by infant infant
Wonderful <3
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 16:28:32 by Serpent Serpent
Once again very well picked music score (like in Agenda and CeaseFire) crafted together with smooth and fluid effects. I appreciate b&w scheme with rastered fonts.

Wervy well made relaxing demo with great atmospehere and well deserverd second place.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 20:56:00 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
I still like these kind of stuff...
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 22:17:53 by s7ing^ATZ s7ing^ATZ
mind = blown

Perfect combination of audio and visuals here. I love it.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 22:57:47 by phobium phobium
Love it. Especially water and music.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-28 23:12:41 by duffman duffman
I don't know how many times I have watched this. It's been a long time I did this for a demo.

The 3D version is absolutely mind boggling. Seriously guys, if you don't have a pair of red/cyan glasses, go out and get one. This demo's worth it!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 09:45:50 by psolord psolord
i love the numbers part! the fluid part is technically impressive but somehow fails to turn me on. the first of the particle-demos i've enjoyed watching since blunderbuss, so thumbs up for that!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 10:49:55 by bstrr bstrr
It looks great. It's technically impressive. But I guess it was just too much fluid pixel stuff for me in one demo. Nevertheless good work!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 11:01:25 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
Easily the best demo in 2011 so far. Aesthetically pleasing, fantastic code and a kick ass soundtrack. It's perfect on it's own. A work of art.
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-04-29 11:04:05 by d3pth d3pth
Cool atmosphere...
added on the 2011-04-29 13:57:03 by Hicks Hicks
Play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play again, play AGAIN!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 15:32:33 by netpoet netpoet
Real quality shit even with missing fluids.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 17:19:04 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
WOW, yes! I really really enjoyed this! Awesome visuals, awesome music... perfect! =)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 17:33:08 by Aasemoon Aasemoon
Actually, it was very nice. The music, the visuals, and technically impressive, just as usual.

But I got bored... so piggy for me, sorry.
added on the 2011-04-29 18:20:24 by flure flure
fantastic!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 19:36:04 by Spin Spin
Moody, and well executed: instant hit. Cncd and Flt did it again.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-29 21:30:28 by kohai kohai
Ok, after watching this few more times and being hypnotised by Stephen Hawking voice I am giving it a thumb up. Damn you Destop :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 00:03:31 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
kick-ass demo
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 01:36:02 by BiTL BiTL
pretty much what kb_ said.
2-3 effects might be a little less, but what's shown is just beautiful. Wish I had 3d glasses handy.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 02:07:19 by Shockwav3 Shockwav3
easily the best flt demo of the last years.
the soundtrack is fantastic - so well balanced and fresh.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 13:13:21 by a-move a-move
best use of anaglyphic ever and overall best demo of the year till now!
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 16:53:50 by RufUsul RufUsul
wonderful. My fav demo so far this year. The intro part, like first 2 mins, is probably the best intro i've seen.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 19:44:50 by Mel Mel
Finally a good demo about semen.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 19:49:10 by dixan dixan
Me likey.
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 20:44:15 by rounddodger rounddodger
I couldn't run it at 1280x1024 fullscreen due to
"Error creating render target" error. I read its text file that said 768 MB of VRAM is required! Well, damnit. :( I did try windowed mode with 640x480 resolution and it actually ran, but too choppy for my old ATI Radeon 4870 video card with 512 MB of VRAM in an old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine (i7 950 CPU). However, I noticed the demo's options showed 4X antialias greyed out. Why can't I change this? :(

So I had to watch it on YouTube! It looked nice.
added on the 2011-04-30 21:08:50 by AntDude AntDude
Still wish this was longer, absolutely love the mood in it and the feeling it gives.

The prod I personally enjoyed the most during the compo, perhaps because the soothing feeling fit very well with "the last demo is running, I'm finally done stressing now".
I'm very happy to have been able to present this for the TG11 audience, thank you :)
rulezadded on the 2011-04-30 23:07:00 by lug00ber lug00ber
O_o--b
rulezadded on the 2011-05-01 00:33:54 by aha aha
Hmmm. This actually falls rather flat, due the "subtitling", why repeat something that we are clearly already hearing? It's about numbers. Why wouldn't you put 72 of something to the screen? This could've told an amazing story, in which it's triumph would've laid. Right now it's just an placeholder for something truly great. Quality is there tho, as usual.
added on the 2011-05-01 02:40:23 by Visualice Visualice
3d excellent !!11
rulezadded on the 2011-05-01 10:13:55 by fyrex fyrex
great one. the slow motion parts where awesome.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-01 10:36:37 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
I simply love the 'head explosion' after last liquid scene. My thoughts exactly :)
added on the 2011-05-01 13:49:29 by harism harism
utter visual and technical brilliance, loved the subtle use of arrow
rulezadded on the 2011-05-01 15:19:02 by enk enk
It's not bad but it did not touch me. I don't get the hype, sorry :)
added on the 2011-05-01 18:31:58 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
has some breathtaking moments, and feels truly original. the music is helping to build up the atmosphere a great deal. the only flaw for me is a bit of repetitiveness in some places. but in the end, one of the best prods i have seen in some time.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-01 19:14:40 by flash^peon flash^peon
keep on doing more stuff with particles and fluid!

Fluid = Fairlight's new ribbon effect!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-01 19:47:13 by praetor_alpha praetor_alpha
Great mood and feeling with lovely effects.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-02 06:45:39 by pommak pommak
beautiful soundtrack and fitting visuals. Never heard the word 'end' used in a more poetic way before :) gotta love the coderporn too!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-02 23:24:44 by Duckers Duckers
Such beauty! Such a nice soundtrack!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-02 23:26:40 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
Definite thumb for the coderporn, but as a viewing experience, I can't help but feel it is somewhat too monotonous. Also not a big fan of the poetry.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-03 07:47:58 by eladamri eladamri
beautiful and soothing
rulezadded on the 2011-05-03 08:16:50 by Axel Axel
I like 3D version!
Music is very cool.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-03 09:41:58 by Manwe Manwe
What Ferris said
rulezadded on the 2011-05-03 10:00:55 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
great.
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-05-03 15:55:35 by got got
I just watched it again, now in 3D, and I'm in awe! <3
added on the 2011-05-03 17:51:56 by Mystra Mystra
oh lord.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-04 12:47:08 by kelsey kelsey
Now watched it on my 104cm full HD screen in 3D in the dark. Cant get enough..:) have to say though if there was not à 3D version i probably would not have watched it again. This demo in 3D is why it really stands out imho. Now Find another niche for THE NeXT flt and cncd demo without particles;)
added on the 2011-05-05 05:34:10 by magic magic
I love it!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-05 08:52:51 by chromag chromag
aye!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-05 20:42:43 by comankh comankh
Thumbs up for the anaglyph version which is awesome. Otherwise a bit boring.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-06 05:32:48 by Nuclear Nuclear
couldn't stand the counting of the text to speech voice after a while and ESC.
other than that, it could've been a nice prod. ( even though it's damn slow on my GTX470 ).
added on the 2011-05-06 13:16:03 by keith303 keith303
you should have faded in ( and out ) some colors from time to time :p
i would have thrown in my Dime.

rest the same, just generic shit this time,
some stuff even looked more like glitches than design!

this 4liner was brought to you by BOREDOM!
sucksadded on the 2011-05-07 03:53:47 by hArDy. hArDy.
ok, sorry, forgot about checking out the opportunity to test with 3d-glasses first! my fault!
( just wonder how 4k_gamers without glasses voted you 1st then! )
added on the 2011-05-07 03:55:29 by hArDy. hArDy.
uuh, 2nd...get more pseudo-3d-glasses next time then ;)
added on the 2011-05-07 03:56:56 by hArDy. hArDy.
or visit AlternativeInercia Demoparty 2000 and FIVE!
added on the 2011-05-07 03:57:46 by hArDy. hArDy.
A really nice demo! The particle effect just gets better and with the fluids this is nothing else than a masterpiece!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-07 07:43:04 by ekoli ekoli
This was something!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-07 23:05:21 by Emod Emod
Watched it, and watched again, and again...
rulezadded on the 2011-05-08 21:51:29 by _10b0 _10b0
This prod diserves to be watched in 3D, just do it. I've seen it maybe 10 times in a row now, pure awesomeness. This should have won the compo. We need to start handing out 3d glasses on the demoshows from now on.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-08 23:24:57 by pingo pingo
1.omg scene's not dead.
2.music is half of the demo.
3.art.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-09 00:47:08 by HeLLoWorld HeLLoWorld
wow. excellent demo. thank you guys!
and it was the first time (thanks to my new machine) that i can watch a flt demo in full beauty and framerate (even anaglyphic).
But - cheered to soon - demo runs pefect until 2:32 - then i get only a black screen woth music.. no fluids for me :(

Config: win7,64bit, i5, AMD Radeon 6850, 1GB VRAM
rulezadded on the 2011-05-09 11:10:53 by v3nom v3nom
@Visualice. I personally hate demos that try to tell a story. As a famous danish coder and I once talked about, the most shitty short film can "render" in better quality, than even the best demos, why not instead try to embrace the medium and do what it's best for. And I tend to think, that most sceners would agree with me. But if the story is like what is done in Debris (if you agree that Debris has a "story"), it might be a good thing, but I tend to watch demos more that don't include a story.
added on the 2011-05-09 13:16:14 by d3pth d3pth
OH jesus. More crap from fairlight. Haven't you all got AIDS yet? Especially you matt with your dirty cock.
sucksadded on the 2011-05-09 14:01:55 by MeteoriK MeteoriK
something of a "making of" here..
http://directtovideo.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/numb-res/
added on the 2011-05-09 15:39:15 by smash smash
After reading that, can i vote for it again please?
added on the 2011-05-09 16:16:28 by psonice psonice
d3pth: Well I wasn't referring to a story "story", but something that leaves room for one's interpretation, so I suppose Debris could serve as an example here. But while being on the subject, I don't have anything against story-demos, meaning if there would be one that wouldn't seem like something that a 10-year old has written :D
added on the 2011-05-10 00:53:03 by Visualice Visualice
narrative != story
added on the 2011-05-10 00:54:40 by Gargaj Gargaj
So a unified colour-scheme is a narrative now?
added on the 2011-05-10 01:07:10 by Visualice Visualice
Just watched it in 3d. The 3d effect adds a lot.. but the shitty red/blue glasses take quite a lot away. With a real 3d screen, it would be incredible.

(And some of the scenes near the end make sooo much more sense in 3d btw. The 'slowdown' isn't there for you to admire the fluid, it's to admire the 3d :)
added on the 2011-05-10 02:33:08 by psonice psonice
unbelievable lots of dotz :) great work !
rulezadded on the 2011-05-10 15:41:25 by inc inc
Thumbs up for the making-of :)
rulezadded on the 2011-05-10 15:54:55 by ector ector
Superb and it has not won... what a shame!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-10 18:18:54 by Cj Cj
Numb Res without the art sense, and without realtime simulation (but realtime MC):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS95KjUS_Ww#t=1m30s

:-)
added on the 2011-05-10 21:11:57 by ector ector
blunderbuss was nice and something new, Agenda Circling Forth amazed me, Ceasefire was sloooow... and now I'm getting tired of particles.
added on the 2011-05-11 23:07:59 by pista pista
Amazing skill and polish. I can't even hear the woosh as it goes miles over my head. Also, soulful.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-12 10:18:22 by andr00 andr00
amazing work smash!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-13 17:51:37 by Sanx Sanx
wow, that's neat :)
rulezadded on the 2011-05-13 22:44:59 by nystep nystep
This made my day. Thanks!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-14 20:52:25 by voz voz
Oups. Forgot my thumb. Superb demo and great soundtrack. Bought »The Lighthouse« by Stereo Wildlife and the other tracks are great, too.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-15 12:28:39 by gaspode gaspode
Beautiful tune, solid graphics and effects although a bit on the slow side as usual :) I enjoyed the biology-ish part more than the rest ;)
rulezadded on the 2011-05-17 19:59:02 by kurli kurli
Very good. Love the music.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-18 18:47:53 by artanis artanis
Nice... especially the disintegration effects.
I liked the music too...
rulezadded on the 2011-05-18 23:46:42 by untel untel
LBM FTW
rulezadded on the 2011-05-19 01:11:59 by cxnull cxnull
btw, the music reminds me a but of radioheads "Fitter Happier", which is actually a good thing.. :)
added on the 2011-05-19 13:04:57 by v3nom v3nom
If anyone wants to try it in proper stereo 3d and has the hardware and means to play it, I've put a side by side video - 2x 1920x1080 - here: ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/fairlight/numb_res_stereo3d.avi
added on the 2011-05-19 13:57:53 by smash smash
not really...
.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-25 01:57:54 by m0d m0d
nice concept with fitting tune and awesome code =
FLT quality production
rulezadded on the 2011-05-25 13:15:18 by madMixx madMixx
Nice one
rulezadded on the 2011-05-25 13:26:46 by scicco scicco
a rat. in a cage. on antibiotics.
rulezadded on the 2011-05-26 13:49:36 by orange orange
Stereo 3D version rules btw. So much more depth in the fluid scenes than I had noticed before. Fantastic.
added on the 2011-05-26 14:22:58 by ferris ferris
fantastic, especially the second half with the fluids
rulezadded on the 2011-05-27 09:25:35 by nekomono nekomono
Just saw Numb Res in 3D @ VIP... omgfgbbq :).

Extra thumb for the 3D, really awesome
added on the 2011-05-28 12:31:19 by wullon wullon
Finally managed to fap to this.
added on the 2011-05-29 10:15:46 by harism harism
Also am wondering is FLT/CNCD cheating with offscreen video rendering here? I mean 768MB video memory requirement is quite much if you take a look on downloadable video size.
added on the 2011-05-29 10:20:59 by harism harism
No its quite normal, ~all normal cards have at least 1GB mem
added on the 2011-05-29 11:27:56 by leGend leGend
Watched finally this in anaglyphic 3d yesterday. What a ride!

I was actually thinking before (seeing this in 3d) that in some parts the demo was "empty" and "lacking" in places, but I'd say this is only for the benefit with the glasses on - less is more. Excellent soundtrack, as well!
rulezadded on the 2011-05-30 19:57:56 by melw melw
I like the Demo as a whole, but my problem with the particle based fluid dynamics is that the water that comes out of it, does not really look like water after all (might also be because of what comes out of the marching cube algorithm, it will create these pretty round blobs around single particles that are off on their own). I'm quite impressed by the performance of the particle simulation though. Good job. Also the number counting is lost on me ;) Will there be any fairlight demo anytime soon, that can run on a computer that is older than 9 months? :D
rulezadded on the 2011-06-02 13:07:56 by GRX GRX
rulezadded on the 2011-06-04 15:52:40 by Grimmy Grimmy
More.
rulezadded on the 2011-06-04 19:27:05 by ninja ninja
black screen, too, part way thru

Radeon 5870, 11.2 or 11.3 drivers
added on the 2011-06-08 14:32:38 by plonk420 plonk420
correction: i get SOME video with 11.5 drivers (but not what i see in the video)

black screen with 10.12
added on the 2011-06-08 14:55:39 by plonk420 plonk420
Yeah, this demo really grows on you, and I just love the soundtrack
rulezadded on the 2011-06-27 12:12:15 by britelite britelite
very nice
rulezadded on the 2011-06-28 20:13:06 by tirox tirox
remarkable
rulezadded on the 2011-07-10 23:43:15 by T$ T$
begin. ok, 2011 isn´t up yet, but i personally think this can not be beaten this year, so i scream this one out for the demo of the year ´11. This is so grown up for a FLT prod, which somehow leads me to
Quote:
The ability to appreciate demos like this comes with age. Luckily I'm old.

This is a true pearl! This time, i don´t even care that i could not see this prod in RT (like almost EVERY FLT prod because of FiretrUCKING hardware hungry code). So, my personal wishes to Smash/FLT: Go on creating stuff like that, but make it less hardware hungry (i bet you hear this a thousand times, but sorry, these guys/gals are right... hehe). end.
rulezadded on the 2011-07-13 22:28:44 by nty_ nty_
why this prod and agenda circling fourth are not on demoscene.tv ?
added on the 2011-07-21 16:11:23 by Bartoshe Bartoshe
A BEST soundtrack ever! Amazing tune
rulezadded on the 2011-07-25 18:04:32 by Bender Bender
Somehow I missed to thumb this one. Soundtrack is great and effects - especially the water like one - cool as usual.

Made a Highres Youtube Rip on my HD channel:
YOUTUBE (HD): numb res by Carillon & Cyberiad (CNCD) & Fairlight (1080p)
rulezadded on the 2011-07-27 13:15:59 by anni anni
Wow, atmospheric and the music is spot-on!
rulezadded on the 2011-07-31 17:39:59 by cce cce
.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-07 01:28:00 by panic panic
This prod has finally made me register on Pouet after nearly ten years of lurking (that it took me several more months to actually complete the registration is another story). I watched it on the livestream, I watched it on my home PC, I watched it in a video capture, and it never fails to impress—let alone in stereo mode.

Most of the recent Fairlight output is known for the (ever-amusing) pretentiousness, but this demo is somehow very sincere, touching, even humble in some ways. I didn't like Agenda or Ceasefire too much, but this deserved to win in my opinion. Truly a colossal effort!
rulezadded on the 2011-09-05 17:14:05 by moozooh moozooh
mandatory particle thumb.
rulezadded on the 2011-09-11 22:28:32 by moqui moqui
And here's the FullHD anaglyph version:
Youtube(anaglyph)

Now that I've seen it in "real" 3D - its even more great!
added on the 2011-09-28 14:10:35 by anni anni
How shall I even dare to produce anything after you guys have ruined my motivation by making something as damn touching and brilliant in every aspect!
rulezadded on the 2011-10-04 19:35:34 by magellan magellan
Excellent soundtrack and effects, but what nemesis said.
rulezadded on the 2011-10-05 10:01:58 by xTr1m xTr1m
I fucking love this production.
rulezadded on the 2011-10-27 05:45:32 by t-zero t-zero
Excellent trip! Stunning visuals and beautiful, fitting music; these guys continue to squeeze fresh, astonishing prods out of the same (likewise astonishing) engine.
rulezadded on the 2011-11-08 23:54:35 by dojoe dojoe
just bought the soundtrack :p
numb res - rubs men, burns me
rulezcdcadded on the 2012-01-13 17:56:17 by phoenix phoenix
So I finally managed to see it in anaglyph 3D... Awesome!
rulezadded on the 2012-03-02 23:50:59 by Tarmil Tarmil
Beautiful!
rulezadded on the 2012-03-11 22:45:57 by Frequent Frequent
Truely, purely and simply art. Smash, you're a beast.
rulezadded on the 2012-03-11 23:19:11 by iks iks
Took me a frikn year but finally found it (unfortunately from video since OSX sucks in running .exes);
http://imgur.com/Dc3Di
added on the 2012-03-19 18:53:44 by harism harism
huh, didn't notice this earlier but 3d spiral @1:15 gives you pretty cool whoa -effect once you spot it.
added on the 2012-04-01 07:53:15 by harism harism
whoooops, make it a 3d spring instead, shaken, not stirred.
added on the 2012-04-01 08:03:04 by harism harism
very nice chilled out production, calm flow and awesome music :)
rulezadded on the 2012-04-06 23:36:53 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
geesus guise. i liked the rotating planets from the very beginning but there's a tail made of dots included. too many details for my taste, sorry, gave a thumb down if i didn't thumb up this already. next time make it a jing-jang logo only. hello. good bye. please.
added on the 2012-04-12 15:57:27 by harism harism
love it!
rulezadded on the 2012-06-15 09:04:03 by blackpawn blackpawn
Amazing!
rulezadded on the 2012-06-24 04:56:37 by kern802 kern802
love it, especially the first part.
rulezadded on the 2012-07-21 01:04:23 by pirx pirx
boring + shitty music
sucksadded on the 2012-08-03 20:48:51 by dafuq dafuq
@dafuq: gfy
added on the 2012-08-04 00:05:11 by gaspode gaspode
From a technical aspect (Engine based on vanilla DX9c, no geometry shaders used, etc.) this is an amazing demo.
Didn't like it so much at first glance but it's growing on me.
rulezadded on the 2012-08-20 22:15:23 by durandal durandal
It's a bit... boring. But it's awesome in 3D and hey, FLT!
rulezadded on the 2012-08-27 16:32:43 by deadscene deadscene
black background.
sucksadded on the 2012-10-15 11:05:10 by cherri kandler cherri kandler
u serious
added on the 2012-10-15 11:50:05 by Tarmil Tarmil
I'd like to see this on planetarium screen, please.
rulezadded on the 2012-12-09 15:38:47 by NokoNoko NokoNoko
Hm, it doesn't let me pick 2560x1600. Please fix :)

Still, awesome.
added on the 2012-12-17 09:51:12 by ector ector
Damn, now I have to figure out how to playback these two video-streams to finally do something useful with our new projector.
added on the 2013-01-10 02:17:10 by pixtur pixtur
scientific. cool style, great soundtrack and direction
rulezcdcadded on the 2013-01-11 21:59:29 by spritus spritus
I can't say nothing.
rulezadded on the 2013-02-28 02:26:02 by ji ji
well, i'll be god damned. I haven't seen (or heard) a demo that mesmerising in ages.
rulezadded on the 2013-03-10 11:35:18 by Gaia Gaia
it's beautifull.
rulezadded on the 2013-03-15 07:40:33 by CeRi CeRi
Forgot to vote this beauty!
rulezadded on the 2013-04-01 17:38:11 by AMB AMB
Very cool!!
rulezadded on the 2013-04-09 10:34:01 by T_S T_S
Impressive and beautiful.
rulezadded on the 2013-04-10 15:30:26 by elmindreda elmindreda
well, it is hard to not love this one :)
rulezadded on the 2013-04-13 02:49:47 by abductee abductee
great great prod, amazing soundtrack...
rulezadded on the 2013-05-19 16:24:17 by aech aech
impressive
rulezadded on the 2013-05-31 16:46:47 by wie8 wie8
I hate it, when I try to make any sense of what's going on. It's a brilliant soundtrack, something that makes you want to try and make connections, references or just sense at all. Visually, the simplicity in the appearance really works well, though the tech stuff going on "underneath" is probably nowhere near simple. Great and coherent prod!
rulezadded on the 2013-07-25 19:05:27 by Punqtured Punqtured
:O
rulezadded on the 2013-07-26 14:58:09 by p01 p01
Miraculous...
rulezadded on the 2013-09-24 23:50:09 by dex46... dex46...
I'm even more impressed after reading the making of... a stunning production!
rulezadded on the 2013-09-30 14:06:37 by freezedream freezedream

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