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release date : august 2011
release party : Evoke 2011
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
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great music and concept.
curious to see upcoming t2 demos :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 04:45:42 by gopher gopher
Fantastic tribute.
I especially dig the choice of square format, and the animated way you found to uncover those paintings.

Great work.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 05:03:51 by Zavie Zavie
This is absolutely fantastic! ...it's all about timing, and this is goooooood...
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 07:20:27 by maytz maytz
absolutely brilliant. while others make particles, still suddenly makes a demo.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 07:20:34 by sq sq
Great stuff here. The look is refreshingly different.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 09:15:34 by CONS CONS
Great Tribute!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 10:11:50 by MurphyEXD MurphyEXD
very educational :-)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 10:13:10 by bfx bfx
Killer style!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 10:16:51 by gaspode gaspode
amazing, two thumbs up!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 10:25:15 by substrate substrate
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 10:38:19 by chiourme chiourme
style!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 10:41:54 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Pretentious and boring. Little more than a slideshow really with no design or direction.

Good music though.
sucksadded on the 2011-08-14 11:09:37 by Wade Wade
Awesome!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 11:11:59 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
FUCK YEAH
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 11:22:21 by knl knl
I really enjoyed this!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 11:31:27 by xTr1m xTr1m
Not what I'd have expected, but great anyways :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 11:38:34 by msqrt msqrt
What sq said. Excellent! Perhaps some other kind of music would've suited the visuals better, still (heh) this must be my favourite demo of the year so far.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 11:41:00 by break break
Cool idea & execution ; music was felt kind of secondary.
added on the 2011-08-14 11:45:05 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Doesn't run here:

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in Still.Player.Player.Update()
in Still.Player.Player.<Run>b__1()
in SlimDX.Windows.MessagePump.IdleHandler.OnIdle(Object sender, EventArgs e)
in System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNative Methods.IMsoComponent.FDoIdle(Int32 grfidlef)
in System.Windows.Forms.Application.ComponentManager.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNat iveMethods.IMsoComponentManager.FPushMessageLoop(IntPtr dwComponentID, Int32 reason, Int32 pvLoopData)
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in System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form mainForm)
in SlimDX.Windows.MessagePump.Run(Form form, MainLoop mainLoop)
in Still.Player.Player.Run()
in Still.Player.Player.Main()

Geforce GT230, DX11.
added on the 2011-08-14 11:47:10 by friol friol
Exceptional! great mood, great idea of exploring op art. The kind of demo I envy.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 11:53:59 by Navis Navis
friol: Excellent! Messages like this one are the reason why we released this demo in the first place. We just changed to .net and want to check compatibility. Could you send a short email with the bug-report and a couple of details about your hardware and software setup to info@still-scene.org?
added on the 2011-08-14 11:57:39 by pixtur pixtur
I wonder what Vasarely would've thought of it...
Very nice prod, I especially like how the b&w pieces have been decomposed and animated.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 12:02:29 by ara ara
Some parts are interesting, others not, a piggie
added on the 2011-08-14 12:21:22 by Zplex Zplex
So that's what happens when great artists pay tribute to great artists. Awesome.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 12:30:00 by Tarmil Tarmil
at least something that's actually interesting to watch! not a common thing nowadays. respect, pixtur &co!

(and now the idea of animated op-art prod should be removed out of our TODO list =(( )
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 12:30:21 by ton ton
ton, come on, just make at least something from your todo list =)
added on the 2011-08-14 12:32:00 by sq sq
this really is digital art ;-)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 12:38:58 by digi digi
I've tried info@still-scene.org and also still@pixtur.de, but each mail bounced back.

But the exception is pretty much that one.
My complete setup:

HP pc with Intel i5
Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
6Gb of memory
Geforce GT230 - 1280x800 desktop resolution
DX11
.net runtime 4.0
added on the 2011-08-14 12:43:15 by friol friol
Colorful, lots of geometric plays - great music - like it!

And made a Youtube Rip for it:

Youtube(1080p)

What I noticed is, when executing the 1080p.exe it actually runs in 1600x1200 (at least on all of my systems) which leads to a false AR - fixed all that so the circles and cubes are with correct aspect ratio (thats how I remembered from stream too).
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 13:19:54 by anni anni
impressive demo, very nice tribute demo. looks perfect
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 13:24:10 by phobium phobium
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ton, come on, just make at least something from your todo list =)
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added on the 2011-08-14 13:45:31 by ton ton
Just brilliant, one of the best demos I've seen in a while.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 14:02:46 by noby noby
Really nice.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 14:05:07 by jonnyram jonnyram
I love this demo!! (and yay, I knew the artist Victor Vasarely) found his artwork a few months ago on the internet. You made him more unforgettable \o/
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 14:21:13 by _faith_ _faith_
Lovely concept!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 14:21:36 by zoom zoom
Brilliant concept, brilliant execution too. This should be hanging next to his work in a gallery somewhere :D
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 14:31:47 by psonice psonice
Great tribute with incredible understanding and presentation of the art.

Also wonderful Steve Roach inspired soundtrack.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 15:00:04 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
Great!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 15:12:21 by BoyC BoyC
When Smash or Slyspy take inspiration for their demos from music videos or motion graphics, or when pixellers copy works of Boris Vallejo, they're accused of ripping and copying, but when someone copies minimalist art, it is hailed as a great demo.

I'll never understand the collective mind of demoscene.
added on the 2011-08-14 15:31:07 by Wade Wade
Stylish and well executed, but left me unsatisfied. Would have loved it if you could have pulled the concept even further and given some me some more intense "aha"-moments
added on the 2011-08-14 15:48:59 by Duckers Duckers
I'm really happy that this actually won the compo! :)

Wade: If they'd just cloned the pictures like people used to do with valejo and changed the signature to hide it, it would be ripping. If they'd been 'heavily inspired' by something and made it realtime like smash + slyspy did, they'd get some criticism for not making that clear but props for making it.

They've not done that though. They've taken the artists work and totally brought it to life, while at the same time giving full credit for the original work.
added on the 2011-08-14 15:49:25 by psonice psonice
Psonice: ok, I see your point about giving credit. But I really don't see they've done all that much to these images here except a bit of distortion.
added on the 2011-08-14 15:58:34 by Wade Wade
From what I saw on the video, I doubt they used the images. It looked more like they'd recreated them in code, and animated the shapes.
added on the 2011-08-14 16:21:48 by psonice psonice
I like it.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 16:27:28 by xernobyl xernobyl
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Pretentious and boring.

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But I really don't see they've done all that much to these images here except a bit of distortion.

Who is being pretentious here?

I really love when people completely discard the work behind a piece of art and reduce it to some trivial aspect with some condescending tone.

Vasarely's paintings? It's just a couple of squares.
Modern art? My 5 years old niece could do the same.
Demo? It's just a some flashing shaded pixels.

Yes, here it's just a bit of distortion. Oh, and a pretentious one.
added on the 2011-08-14 16:32:54 by Zavie Zavie
Psonice: I assumed they were vector tracings, but either way they aren't particularly complicated. Now if they could recreate Vallejo works in code I'd be very impressed! :D
added on the 2011-08-14 16:33:25 by Wade Wade
Zavie: Well, that's all I see. Why would I pretend I see more or get more out of it? To fit in with the crowd perhaps? To appear more intelligent?
added on the 2011-08-14 16:37:13 by Wade Wade
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To appear more intelligent?


Well based on your comments you aren't very intelligent... Seriously, if minimalism is such a big insult to your senses and you yourself have admitted that you don't understand it, why do you keep on watching and commenting on it?
added on the 2011-08-14 16:43:42 by noby noby
Wade: Wow. Just wow... shocking mindset.

Good stuff guys!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 16:46:59 by mrdoob mrdoob
Why are you discussing with Wade about art? Check what he does and you'll see if you can agree about art with him, that's all about it. I suggest you all click on his name, go to his website, see what he calls art and then, you might avoid any discussion about art with him.
added on the 2011-08-14 16:56:25 by knl knl
I second duckers. It's a well done tribute, but somehow fails to excite and engage.
added on the 2011-08-14 17:02:13 by tomaes tomaes
perfect artist, perfect demo & amazing concept
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 17:11:58 by porno-UZI porno-UZI
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Seriously, if minimalism is such a big insult to your senses and you yourself have admitted that you don't understand it, why do you keep on watching and commenting on it?


I didn't see a disclaimer before I watched the demo. Besides, imagine how pointless the story of The Emporer's New Clothes would have been if nobody pointed out he was actually naked.

Personally, I'm among those who believe that minimalism (like many art forms) is a mere product of clever marketing. The appreciation of it is not much different to that of the latest Hollywood blockbuster or boyband sensation. The marketers and promoters spread the hype and the consumers get caught up in it.

You could say that the trumpet background here on Pouet is minimalism, but without the hype and promotion, it's nothing more than a generic web background.

I gave up blind faith the same time I gave up religion.
added on the 2011-08-14 17:20:48 by Wade Wade
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Why are you discussing with Wade about art? Check what he does and you'll see if you can agree about art with him, that's all about it. I suggest you all click on his name, go to his website, see what he calls art and then, you might avoid any discussion about art with him.


I'm more of an illustrator than an "artist" really, although there are a few of paintings I've done I would definitely stand by as meaninful pieces of art.
added on the 2011-08-14 17:22:40 by Wade Wade
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The appreciation of it is not much different to that of the latest Hollywood blockbuster or boyband sensation.

Says the guy who likes Rebecca Black and Tron...

It's pretty childish to think that there are millions of people who just pretend to like something because they want to seem "deep" and "artsy". And you always fall back on the emperor's clothes "argument", which is pretty weak. What I see in you, is just plain insecurity. Do you even realize the contradictions you just said? You are just as worse as the people with "blind faith".

Nothing wrong with disliking something, but it's just ignorant to dismiss all merits of a piece of work just because you have such principles.
added on the 2011-08-14 17:35:20 by noby noby
Oh and kaneel is right, this discussion are absolutely pointless.
added on the 2011-08-14 17:37:28 by noby noby
I dig this. HARD. Guts to make it, talent to pull it off so well. Bravo :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 17:38:51 by gloom gloom
"hkjlkhjkl"?
added on the 2011-08-14 17:42:32 by Gargaj Gargaj
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Says the guy who likes Rebecca Black and Tron...

It's pretty childish to think that there are millions of people who just pretend to like something because they want to seem "deep" and "artsy". And you always fall back on the emperor's clothes "argument", which is pretty weak. What I see in you, is just plain insecurity. Do you even realize the contradictions you just said? You are just as worse as the people with "blind faith".

Nothing wrong with disliking something, but it's just ignorant to dismiss all merits of a piece of work just because you have such principles.


haha. I did like Tron Legacy, but I was joking about Rebecca Black.

Well, I've never seen any decent comeback for the Emporer's New Clothes argument so it can't be that weak.

If anyone can sell this demo (or any minimalist demo) for the same price as the original pieces of art, I will admit I am wrong.

My point is, if the value of minimalism is truly in the visual quality and impact of the art, then an art lover will be willing to buy it based on those merits alone.
added on the 2011-08-14 17:51:27 by Wade Wade
What wade said. Looked and felt like an intro
sucksadded on the 2011-08-14 18:05:30 by rasmus/loonies rasmus/loonies
colors :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 18:09:37 by mueslee mueslee
Very nice look! Some parts reminded me of Aura for Laura a bit.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 18:09:42 by superplek superplek
THIS got first!?
added on the 2011-08-14 18:12:20 by a-move a-move
Fresh!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 18:35:24 by DragonL DragonL
Love the idea.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 18:38:51 by Cj Cj
I much prefer Vasarely when it's animated, good idea & well executed! :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 18:55:34 by baah baah
Black screen showing mouse cursor, sound works. Win 7 64-bit, 8800 gts 512mb alpha dog edition, latest Nvidia drivers.
Saw YouTube video. Absolutely awesome excecution of a great idea. Best concept scene.org award, for sure.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 19:08:16 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
Completely missed this when it was replayed in the compo (drank was involved). Great stuff!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 19:16:15 by okkie okkie
Beautiful
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 19:26:05 by daFred daFred
nice art
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 19:32:46 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
My favorite artist, my favorite group and my favorite demo. Fantastic stuff, even if it was a bit unfinished.
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-08-14 19:40:50 by Preacher Preacher
Refreshing and intriguing piece.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 19:47:35 by Den Den
A-r-t... my personal favorite of the party.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 19:49:52 by Tigrou Tigrou
Good.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 20:05:05 by Sir Sir
starts off quite nice, but drops off after a minute or two. either the synch or music does not perfectly fit this piece. the colors in the start of the demo was nice though.
added on the 2011-08-14 20:22:58 by rudi rudi
Love w00tage

And a glorious thumb.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 20:25:01 by m0d m0d
really really excellent, i always love it when scene productions embed themselves into a wider context. really nice idea and excecution. wade's ramblings about this being comparablee to vallejo copying is completely idiotic, since this is an excellent example of a truly creative and respectful tribute.

i'm not completely happy with the music though - not that the track would not be good as such, but i could rather imagine a minimalistic techno track for the visuals. than the demo would have the hypnotic qualities of older satori productions like b-10.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 20:38:44 by dipswitch dipswitch
Great idea and so is the execution. Nice tune!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 20:54:16 by Serpent Serpent
Very nice idea, good presentation and great music!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 21:14:49 by Stebo Stebo
Wow!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 21:33:55 by BiTL BiTL
very cool idea and concept, that's what I like
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 21:56:44 by decca decca
What they said.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 22:10:28 by Alpha C Alpha C
holy shit :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 22:46:29 by las las
all thumbs up!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 23:01:50 by thec thec
Excellent and original production.
Music does it too.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 23:10:53 by BackSpace BackSpace
Wow! You don't hate it? You don't complain that's not running on you machine? But why? What's wrong with you demoscene people?

This is somewhat of a really nice surprise for us. Two days ago, we were so uncertain, that we asked gopher and digi how they liked the concept. Basically checking if it's worth any more effort or if we should just drop the idea and go straight for the booze and have a nice party. We made quite a lot of cynical jokes about releasing it under an alternative group, Haujobb, maybe.

Wade is completely right with his argument, that this actually IS a slideshow. All colors and all the final designs are copies of original artworks. The design is not inspired by Vasarely. It's his design completely. When starting the project, I was thinking of doing a couple of inspired shaders for testing the shader-pipeline. But as it turned out, it's extremely hard to rebuild his stuff. This guy was a fucking genius when it comes to colors. And some objects look simple but turn out to be impossible to reconstruct in 3d. Out of desperation, I decided to rebuild the original art-work in 2d and only use original colors. It looks easy, but it took me an insane amount of work. (I spent more time on the "Zebras", than on the tower in Finally Inside.).
In that sense, it's a really thin line between honoring someone and ripping him off. I am completely fine with somebody not liking the concept for that reason alone.

Keeping that in mind, winning the compo and receiving such a great feedback hit us by complete surprise. Cynic and Pirx kept pushing for a release to test the player compatibility with a bigger crowd. I just wanted to get rid of this nightmare-project. So, most of the design was done in the two days at the party place. Many scenes are completely unpolished, some are missing entirely and for many, I fail to use the potential inherited in the artists work. But as my favorite painter, Chris Mullins, wrote once: you learn most when doing what you are not good at. And after such great perception, I'm definitely making a final, once I am back from Burning Man.

@gopher: Thanks. I am also curious of where t2 brings us. Next will be the recycle4001 remix :)
@maytz: Thanks.
@sq: Actually, you would not believe how much envy Smash and Navis for their particle count.
@wade: What I said above. And, I personally always loved your style. So it hurts a little to read people picking on you here.
@msqrt: Excellent.
@break, _-_-__ : Definitely. I love the music, but it doesn't match the topic at all. Sometimes, you have to take, what's available.
@friol: I tried to fix the email account. Thanks for addressing that. Please try to send me another mail. We would love to send you a couple of test versions later.
@navis: wow. This comment really means something to me.
@ara: I wonder, too. I guess his offsprings will hunt me down for copyright infringement.
@tarmil: haha, I wish.
@ton: haha, sounds like quite a lot of people had a secret plan to work on this topic. better finish the other points on your list before they are done by somebody else, too.
@anni: thanks for the capture. Very interesting issue with the AR.
@phobium: Thanks! A lot of details make me cringe, though.
@faith, psonice, insectecutor, boyc: thanks. Gives me a little ego boost
@duckers: I now have a couple of pretty good ideas, how I could have pulled the concept much farer. Sadly, I am too exhausted of the topic and so the potential is wasted like so often with demoscene projects.
@mr.doob: thanks. I could now show you some working .net stuff. Would love to continue our discussion when I'm back in BCN.
@gloom: thanks. will come back for music soon.
@gargaj: damn. I guess I was too tired to spot this one. But where is it?
@a-move: amazing, isn't it? Must have been name voting.
@preacher: thanks. You should have won, though. And you should have mentioned your love to Vasarely, because now I will never see your interpretation of his work.
@rudi, dispswitch: completely agree. See above. Also note, that it's Lena's first demo-scene release ever. She is really really excited to read this feedback.
added on the 2011-08-14 23:38:40 by pixtur pixtur
nice 'tribute' demo
rulezadded on the 2011-08-14 23:56:32 by psenough psenough
wow! thanks for the surprisingly nice feedback :)
@gargaj: the linked archive is a wrong version now. this one was shown at the party.
can someone please correct the link or exchange the archive on scene.org.
added on the 2011-08-15 00:03:19 by pirx pirx
I want you to decorate my livingroom.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 02:09:21 by scamp scamp
I hate this demo because you stole a demo concept I have in mind since 15 years.

I love this demo because you bring to life my idea in a way better form than I can do myself.

@Pixtur: thanks for the message in the nfo :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 02:42:23 by rez rez
So, some people may like the art, but as a demo this doesn't work at all. The visuals are uninteresting and ugly unless you're really into Vasarey, and the music has nothing to do with the visuals at all, and sounds like it comes from a 4k synth. Oh, and DX10, .NET and 16MB download to show what's essentially a 2D slideshow? Come on.

I see others disagree, but I cannot come to any other conclusion. Sorry :-)
sucksadded on the 2011-08-15 07:52:53 by Sesse Sesse
effective
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 09:20:05 by xeNusion xeNusion
Awesome idea and great execution.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 09:20:32 by chock chock
I wanna loop this on a huge led screen, disguised as a painting, in my living room!
added on the 2011-08-15 11:10:39 by maytz maytz
Only fun démo , poor quality, code, rendering, technical ....... first place stolen :(

Very bad démo for me......i 'am very disappointed :(
sucksadded on the 2011-08-15 12:39:47 by Rafale06 Rafale06
<3 Vasarely
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 12:52:39 by Olivier Olivier
Very well done and nice to see Still doing something completely different.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 14:18:26 by hfr hfr
i demand a final! =)
added on the 2011-08-15 14:33:19 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Pixtur: You're a class act man. Seriously, I admire the fact that you approached this demo with caution and humility and saw it as a risk, rather than insulting people who don't like it.

Although I remain very cynical when it comes to minimalism and I really don't like this demo (or the original art), I know you are immensly talented are just as capable of doing something epic and complex too.

It's great to experiment with different styles and break out of one's comfort zone. This one didn't work for me, but maybe your next one will. :)
added on the 2011-08-15 15:03:03 by Wade Wade
Damn.

Originally Exceed and Replay has done a coop for Mekka2000 called "More than Vasarely" as 64kb... It had the same concept like Beta, but then Heaven7 was ready in time (not that usual Exceed thing. :>), so it was delayed for ages... and now Beta is done. :>
added on the 2011-08-15 15:15:48 by d-lee d-lee
+1
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 16:31:29 by nodepond nodepond
one of the most enjoyable demos I've seen in a while. great visuals, great soundtrack
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 18:24:39 by xyz xyz
Delightful work! Optical art in action.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 18:45:29 by nodeus nodeus
very fresh and good! definitely one of my favourites from demos lately.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 18:54:21 by shadez shadez
it's nice to see an idea pulled off so well, and i think you treated the original work with respect & this shines through in the execution.

this is a very refreshing demo one that can be re-watched many times. while i think the music is excellent i don't think it suited these visuals too well. anyway great piece of demo work! :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 18:58:37 by keito keito
Cool idea, nice concept, but I really wanted something more in-your-face from you guys.

That said, the "sync" in the beginning where the first image is created (after the blur) is really cool :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 19:44:52 by ferris ferris
ok
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 19:49:53 by fyrex fyrex
this could have been a really interesting move from a demo into modern art if it actually did something with the pictures to make them come to life, make them more than their original forms, besides.. you know, sticking a grid expander on top.
brave? yes. nice concept? yes. great result? no, not really. :)
+1 for pixtur's honesty and good attitude tho. (all demomakers take note)
added on the 2011-08-15 20:14:43 by smash smash
Victor(y)! Perhaps mr. Vasarely would like this, too!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 20:59:27 by mad mad
Excellent concept! Well executed.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 22:02:45 by Mystra Mystra
Conceptual op art. A nice tribite to VV works
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 22:16:39 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
great execution! i hope we will be able to say "still rocks" many years later. :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 23:21:08 by Skate Skate
expected different reactions - this makes me happy :) still just rules
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 23:34:21 by pandur pandur
One of these demos you can show to scene-outsiders. And as I had a guest with me at evoke, it was perfect.
Also, I found it well conducted with good pace and smooth transitions.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-15 23:40:44 by novel novel
... and suddenly I wasn't sitting at Evoke anymore, I was 12 again when my parents dragged me into the Vasarely museum in Aix-en-Provence, and had that sense of awe again. I kinda concur with Rez; an idea like this was also residing in some back corner of my mind for too many years. Thanks for getting it out and giving it a nice slap. ;)

Only problem IMHO is that the soundtrack doesn't really fit. It's nice but completely unconnected to what's going on visually.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 10:43:22 by kb_ kb_
A very neat little production
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 10:46:21 by kusma kusma
I didn't know the artist, I don't care about artsy fartsy or not, all I know is that I liked it because it was presented in a very appealing way.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 12:12:50 by Optimus Optimus
rez and kb: as I already said to Pixtur at the partyplace, fuckings for doing it first ;)
added on the 2011-08-16 12:15:27 by Preacher Preacher
Great tribute, nicely done.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 12:19:02 by Ok3anos Ok3anos
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This is somewhat of a really nice surprise for us. Two days ago, we were so uncertain, that we asked gopher and digi how they liked the concept. Basically checking if it's worth any more effort or if we should just drop the idea and go straight for the booze and have a nice party. We made quite a lot of cynical jokes about releasing it under an alternative group, Haujobb, maybe.


It's funny looking back at that, and I totally get where you were coming from. When I saw this had won, it was a huge surprise - I'd have expected it to come at the bottom end of the results. But, I would have voted for it if I'd been at the party, which explains why I was wrong :)

Just consider though if you'd gone a little farther that way and not released the demo. The scene would have missed something good (major party winning good!) So I guess the lesson is that if you're doing something you believe in and you're not sure how people are going to react, go ahead and do it anyway, and find out :)
added on the 2011-08-16 12:31:56 by psonice psonice
really enjoyable!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 14:38:02 by nekomono nekomono
Oldscholers like!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 20:13:42 by Hicks Hicks
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an idea like this was also residing in some back corner of my mind for too many years.


Yeah I guess many people had the same idea :P
added on the 2011-08-16 20:15:30 by Navis Navis
what smash said, but with a (weak) thumb
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 20:31:44 by blala blala
beautiful.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 20:45:04 by chavez chavez
Brilliant! A pleasure to watch!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-16 20:51:45 by Daniel Daniel
Saying that minimalism was born out of sheer marketing campaigns denotates ignorance, at best. The moto "less is more" was rediscovered all over the place in music, architecture, dance, art in general. In minimalist music sometimes it is the silence between the seldom heard musical notes that is object of reverence. The same concept could be transposed to the visual arts. Saying that paintings of Rothko are nothing but random ink blotches that could be made by everyone is simply stupid, coming from anyone, artist or not.

Congrats for the great work keep it up :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 00:23:38 by soueusou soueusou
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Saying that minimalism was born out of sheer marketing campaigns denotates ignorance, at best.


I didn't come up with that concept myself. It's a popular discussion among artists and academics the world over...but I guess they're all ignorant, right?

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Saying that paintings of Rothko are nothing but random ink blotches that could be made by everyone is simply stupid, coming from anyone, artist or not.


Yes yes, I'm stupid because I only see something basic and meaningless when apparently there's all this depth and emotion and all the secrets of the universe within. <sigh>
added on the 2011-08-17 00:54:14 by Wade Wade
i can't understand any gripe about the music in this.
fits perfect imo as it unites styles.
BETA....
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 01:53:21 by 9M4N 9M4N
Might be worth saying that I get some black lines between some tiles in some scenes.
added on the 2011-08-17 03:11:02 by xernobyl xernobyl
thumb for the music alone. have a good time at burning man :)
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 03:21:09 by shuffle2 shuffle2
Rocked!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 07:31:44 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
nice
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 08:05:13 by Luchi Bobra Luchi Bobra
Fuckings for doing something that I've been planning on doing for some 10 years now (but about a different artist :D).
Good tribute and excellent show, a little minus on the music which isn't 100% fit to my taste.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 08:41:35 by dixan dixan
boring
sucksadded on the 2011-08-17 09:55:22 by radman1 radman1
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I didn't come up with that concept myself. It's a popular discussion among artists and academics the world over...but I guess they're all ignorant, right?


Well frankly i am not aware of such popular academic discussion about minimalism as a marketing hoax. Can you share some data on this?

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Yes yes, I'm stupid because I only see something basic and meaningless when apparently there's all this depth and emotion and all the secrets of the universe within. <sigh>


This is just disrespectful stupidity :) Emotional responses to Rothko's paintings are abundant and well documented, just google it. If visual minimalism is too hard for you, try music, i recommend Arvo Pärt's "Für Alina", for example. I also have the score, if you're interested.

added on the 2011-08-17 15:10:12 by soueusou soueusou
A really nice tribute to the op art of the 60's!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 18:22:42 by Exin Exin
Stunning!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-17 18:46:31 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
good concept, average execution, bleh music.
Ah, fuck it. I'm shallow and proud...

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:)
added on the 2011-08-17 23:06:03 by Wade Wade
ahah that i dig too :D
added on the 2011-08-18 00:10:43 by soueusou soueusou
Now that I've rewatched it a couple of times I can only say that I consider this a demoscene masterpiece.

I think the (subtly synced) music is in nice contrast to the "classic" visuals
(sounds to me like "hey, nowadays we do it in realtime. animated. eat my shorts!" :^) )

plus I totally concur with what Exin said:

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A really nice tribute to the op art of the 60's!


..which is where the demoscene is strongly rooted, is not it ?!

(yea, I've thought of this myself aswell but was too lazy to make a demo about it! I only made a couple of display hacks..)

@wade: I still luv ya, man but IMHO you are being too critical ;) This is still the -demo-scene, right ?

last but not least big ups for giving credit where it's due. Great work, Mr. Victor Vasarely (r.i.p.), Great work, Still!
added on the 2011-08-18 01:43:52 by xyz xyz
Vásárhelyi Győző is dah king!
Cool demo with awesome music!
This is on the top, cause it is in one well and we like it.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-19 00:26:25 by csio csio
Holy crap! The best demo this year has to offer 2011

I <3 Still
rulezadded on the 2011-08-19 15:38:05 by waffle waffle
state of art
rulezcdcadded on the 2011-08-19 17:34:24 by Frozzy Frozzy
very nice
rulezadded on the 2011-08-19 23:28:24 by sokoban sokoban
A tribute to vasarely as an animated retrospective of his work? Great idea!
The music is the weakest part of this prod though...
rulezadded on the 2011-08-20 15:32:55 by untel untel
Still Player crashes on my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with ATI Radeon 4870 video card (512 MB of RAM). :(

Demo was OK from its YouTube video.
added on the 2011-08-20 22:32:32 by AntDude AntDude
Ah, http://pouet.net/nfo.php?which=57514 says it needs .NET 4, Windows 7, and DirectX 10. :(
added on the 2011-08-20 22:34:27 by AntDude AntDude
arty-farty, not for me :(
added on the 2011-08-20 22:58:03 by bstrr bstrr
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@wade: I still luv ya, man but IMHO you are being too critical ;) This is still the -demo-scene, right ?


Well I have to accept I'm in the minority here so there must be something to this demo I'm not seeing. But to be honest a lot of my criticism (as with all demos) is just me playing devil's advocate and trying to rouse passionate discussions. Never anything personal.
added on the 2011-08-20 23:48:16 by Wade Wade
Really liked this
rulezadded on the 2011-08-20 23:53:04 by leGend leGend
kudos!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-21 00:26:30 by texel texel
@wade of course nothing personal. opinions are opinions. taste is subjective. got any new drawings? I really liked that picture with that cigar smoking guy ;)
added on the 2011-08-21 01:05:05 by xyz xyz
Just great, i was fascinated following al those ideas, also really liked the music.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-21 21:34:26 by fiveofive fiveofive
esxcellent minimialism
rulezadded on the 2011-08-21 22:08:49 by nosfe nosfe
what nosfe said.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-23 13:04:35 by ulrick ulrick
screen stays black, music plays.
while i wasnt really in the mood for it at the party place, i crave for rewatching this (not as video capture!) at a quiet moment at home.
final pls!
added on the 2011-08-24 12:50:42 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
This is fantastic.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-25 13:08:19 by johnl johnl
I like everything about this demo.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-25 22:34:02 by Optima Optima
Awesome music!!!
rulezadded on the 2011-08-26 07:46:50 by Corial Corial
ripped music (unless the same guy made this track as well ;)), but a pleasant demo all together.
rulezadded on the 2011-08-28 01:19:43 by vdangre vdangre
Vasarely in a demo == win
rulezadded on the 2011-08-29 10:24:04 by -SP- -SP-
no
sucksadded on the 2011-08-29 21:51:12 by werners!cngs werners!cngs
yes the colours semms to be really pritty. thank for this
added on the 2011-08-29 23:37:40 by xpsire xpsire
oh the track is cool. "+" for idea. "-" for direction and colors. at all piggy
added on the 2011-08-30 00:04:14 by polyphone polyphone
what polypohne says
oh wont work here ati amd windows32
sucksadded on the 2011-08-30 00:34:49 by sir giddy sir giddy
nice, but boooooring.
a piggy
added on the 2011-08-31 20:31:46 by Spewk Spewk
haaa the mandatory .reEto's WLAN neighbours downvoted!
added on the 2011-09-01 10:07:59 by rez rez
where's my CDC when i need one? :(
added on the 2011-09-01 12:00:56 by substrate substrate
fantastic work
rulezadded on the 2011-09-02 19:49:41 by frostpfote frostpfote
nice experience!
rulezadded on the 2011-09-04 13:04:49 by chromag chromag
The concept is pretty interesting, but not just my cup of tea.
added on the 2011-09-04 17:20:38 by zefyros zefyros
Sorry, I realise I'm in a minority here but this doesn't work for me. Music is nice, but doesn't click with the visuals - not so much a syncing issue as just being mismatched with the minimal visuals. It's conceptually brave production, but doesn't really bring anything new to the table in my opinion.
sucksadded on the 2011-09-06 23:12:25 by Mtl Mtl
Love the artist, greate tribute !
rulezadded on the 2011-09-07 09:23:46 by cxnull cxnull
how ! great ! hate and had hated the artist by past (on big paper on my past town) but the demo really rulez ! taking part from this artist and making it something other is really cool ! love this demo and the idea. i'm looking foward a demo on tchek expressionism and the name i forgot of a painter who wanted to make light spectrum by paint . this kind of demo is at middle of contemporary art and demomaking. that 's give me a *rulez* from me !!! bravo ^^
rulezadded on the 2011-09-07 09:31:05 by yogibeer yogibeer
since this is somehow a hommage i suppose it's ok, but please not with that music, sorry!
sucksadded on the 2011-09-07 16:17:50 by orange orange
Great concept, nice art, good tribute.
rulezadded on the 2011-09-07 17:42:26 by lemonade lemonade
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rulezadded on the 2011-09-09 22:15:56 by bob-fossil bob-fossil
Not too much exciting, but shows next future in C#.
rulezadded on the 2011-09-10 00:46:51 by Aeko Aeko
Some of the niceness comes from the borrowed artwork, some of it comes from your use of it. I liked it, including the music. The great PC groups do these kinds of visuals and audio in 64K or less though, so that's the "only" thing standing between you and demoscene supremacy ;) That, and removing unnecessary dependencies...
rulezadded on the 2011-09-10 13:11:38 by Photon Photon
music is awesome but doesnt fit to the demo, demo is pretty cool but doesnt fit to the music....but overall it still "rulez"
rulezadded on the 2011-09-12 10:51:37 by 4kum4 4kum4
Very cool and original in every aspect!
rulezadded on the 2011-09-12 14:20:12 by Factor6 Factor6
Moving an artist's work into the real-time realm is always awesome o__o _b
Nicely done.
rulezadded on the 2011-09-12 21:42:20 by GbND GbND
rulezadded on the 2011-09-13 16:56:08 by moqui moqui
fresh!
rulezadded on the 2011-10-05 22:03:01 by loaderror loaderror
i was about to rant that there still isnt a final version then the paradoxon of finalizing beta struck me hard.
still i wish i could watch it natively without a crash.
added on the 2011-10-12 17:33:53 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
we started working on the final some weeks ago. we're still not through with it, but it will come...
added on the 2011-10-20 21:19:51 by cynic cynic
i like!
rulezadded on the 2011-11-04 04:13:47 by blackpawn blackpawn
enjoyed it
rulezadded on the 2011-11-21 20:46:51 by neriakX neriakX
awful music.
sucksadded on the 2011-12-17 17:28:54 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
moving modern art
rulezadded on the 2012-01-10 15:54:17 by scooper22 scooper22
Great tribute
rulezadded on the 2012-01-12 01:03:04 by T$ T$
Excellent demo. Fail to start here on my i7+gf570gtx, but runs nice on my Radeon laptop.
rulezadded on the 2012-04-01 14:05:10 by Frequent Frequent
well, final? =)
added on the 2012-06-07 03:23:32 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
awesome
rulezadded on the 2012-06-07 04:46:08 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
excellent
rulezadded on the 2012-08-04 12:57:54 by v3nom v3nom
yessss worthy award winner
rulezadded on the 2012-08-04 15:43:30 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
wow, i didn't thumb this :).

(and final please ;))
rulezadded on the 2012-08-07 12:34:17 by wullon wullon
one of my alltime favs
rulezcdcadded on the 2012-08-13 11:11:23 by cupe cupe
Hypnotic, of course, and a well deserved tribute.
rulezadded on the 2012-09-01 22:13:58 by Eldrik Eldrik
Some transformations on a Vasarey gallery. Harbouring misdirected respect via a hommage? Not today!
added on the 2012-10-07 12:56:51 by velusip velusip
wow! missed this -- most mum-friendly prod EVER (she does patchwork)

pretty++++++++
rulezadded on the 2012-10-14 05:43:15 by Fell Fell
Did I mention just how f**king awesome this shit is! Oh my it's good.
added on the 2013-02-26 19:05:57 by maytz maytz
Damn, that was beautiful! A friend who has a Vasarely-Poster above his bed showed it to me. I love how at the same time, this honors an artist really worth honoring, and breathes some new life into his work, showing it in a different medium like that.
rulezadded on the 2013-04-10 19:58:08 by ryx ryx
hmmm, interesting designs.
rulezadded on the 2013-05-27 06:50:10 by praetor_alpha praetor_alpha
Nice to see some proper artwork in a demo
rulezadded on the 2013-05-27 07:38:28 by prowler prowler
rulezadded on the 2013-07-24 19:15:15 by hArDy. hArDy.
Original and educational.
rulezadded on the 2014-06-08 03:02:53 by cngsoft cngsoft
How could I forget my thumb up? This is brilliant, I love it and watch it regularly! Unfortunately on YouTube, because it crashes half-way through, although not always at the same point. :(

Anyway, I love the tune, the visuals, the concept, the sync, the flow - and now the artist himself as well, whom I really didn't know before.
rulezadded on the 2014-07-08 21:21:41 by Kylearan Kylearan
forgot thumb, too ^^
rulezadded on the 2014-07-08 21:43:36 by HellMood HellMood
One of my all-time favourite demos.
rulezadded on the 2014-07-08 22:11:20 by introspec introspec
very stylish, some cool effects
really GREAT
rulezadded on the 2014-07-08 22:33:02 by whizart whizart
<3
rulezadded on the 2014-07-21 02:34:46 by iks iks
Always been a big fan of op art and this is a great way to respectfully bring it to (even more) life
rulezadded on the 2014-10-23 13:49:24 by evilpaul evilpaul

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