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screenshot added by ntsc_ on 2013-10-06 21:20:28
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release date : october 2013
release party : Demosplash 2013
compo : combined demo
ranked : 2nd
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popularity : 68%
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  • 0.71
alltime top: #875
added on the 2013-10-06 21:20:28 by ntsc_ ntsc_

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well done guys. Don't believe what the nfo says : I did not do a thing in that prod. I can thumb this up with violating the pouet golden rule.
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 21:46:34 by nytrik nytrik
Did you seriously not only rip the music, but rip an UNRELEASED track off YOUTUBE with THE LABEL WATERMARKS in it?!

I'm sorry guys, but no demo is good enough to go past that bullshit.
sucks added on the 2013-10-06 22:09:55 by Gargaj Gargaj
*then-unreleased
added on the 2013-10-06 22:11:29 by Gargaj Gargaj
*sigh* another scene drama? :( Gargaj, perhaps Cocoon had permission from the makers who also are credited ?
Why accusations? Why not contact Cocoon first..
Cocoon is making demos for such a long time.. I can't imagine they doing this. Keep up the good work Cocoon!

(i save my thumb untill i have taken the time to see the demo)
added on the 2013-10-06 22:14:12 by magic magic
magic, you mean they had the permission but still resorted to using a watermarked version? Yeeeeeeaaah...
As awesome as usual. Cocoon rocks :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 22:25:50 by xtrium xtrium
Video please.
added on the 2013-10-06 22:29:37 by xernobyl xernobyl
you guys, rulez
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 22:31:36 by Lycan Lycan
you know why.
sucks added on the 2013-10-06 22:38:01 by dq dq
Not sure if ripped or permitted, but they greet "pospy team" (yeah, right!) ;)
added on the 2013-10-06 22:39:00 by T$ T$
Drama time \o/

I did ask permission to the author and his label....
We had to use one of his songs for the revision, but with the "gema rules"..we changed to another.
added on the 2013-10-06 22:44:55 by ntsc_ ntsc_
ok, i hope they provide a final (or provide the proper hq-non-watermarked) track
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 22:46:41 by T$ T$
aaaaahhh big sorry! everything is fine. but why don't you use the correct audio file? ôO
added on the 2013-10-06 22:46:54 by dq dq
@dq : the full version of the song is more than 5mn long. and the "soundcloud" version 2mn40... just that.....
added on the 2013-10-06 22:56:27 by ntsc_ ntsc_
mediocre demo. short and looks unfinished. i'll leave the thumb for magic!
added on the 2013-10-06 22:56:28 by maali maali
Drama or not, i like it.
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 23:08:29 by CHEF-KOCH CHEF-KOCH
Quote:
rip an UNRELEASED track off YOUTUBE

Like if ending behind a software javascript demo wasn't insulting enough Gargaj needs to add some on top of it and treat us like scum.
We've been making demos for the past 18 years, how could you even think we could go so low ?
sorry gargaj but i second my crew mates here:
we did had the green light from the author himself.
check it out before acting like a scumbag.
added on the 2013-10-06 23:32:50 by nytrik nytrik
guille/nytrik: I did, actually. After watching the demo I asked DQ, who I knew has known (and worked with) Wintermute, and according to him Wintermute didn't know about this and was quite upset. Add this to the mix of having a seriously low compression quality track with watermarks and I think I had a pretty good case.

But yeah. I publicly apologize for the accusation about using the track without permission.

That being said, my thumb still stands because I can't believe you couldn't spend ~2 minutes on buying the track off Beatport and making an edit out of it if it was too long. That bothers me a lot more than whether the music had permission or not, because it feels that I was cheated as an audience.
added on the 2013-10-06 23:44:36 by Gargaj Gargaj
And here is my Thumb! Keep em coming guys!
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 23:50:20 by magic magic
nice demo, slick rendering, filters off to a standard affair towards the end, oh and is it just me? but i i didn't think the music was that good ironically, just personal taste, keep up the good work guys! :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 23:56:07 by keito keito
I haven't seen the demo, I'm just gonna counterthumb gargaj
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 00:07:32 by thec thec
for the second ranking
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 01:40:29 by Defiance Defiance
by the way we felt proud to be given the approval to use neonlight tracks. i hope we will have another opportunity loke this in the future.
added on the 2013-10-07 03:13:50 by nytrik nytrik
music won't really fit for me. and it's a bit short and feels very empty. but still a nice looking show :D
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 06:33:25 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Hell yes.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 06:52:59 by menace menace
nice ! ( however the frame rate isn't excellent on my Nvidia GeForce 770 )
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 09:05:52 by u2 u2
i like it :) cocoon style . don't mind you rocks
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 09:10:12 by yogibeer yogibeer
good one. usual cocoon quality.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 09:21:20 by arm1n arm1n
Fuck javascript.
This is the real thing. :D
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 09:42:51 by las las
Nothing wrong with Javascript, though I haven't seen the demo. I kind of liked the visual look of this, though it could've been more dynamic. The metaballs-like thing was nice.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 09:51:13 by Preacher Preacher
I like it :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 10:01:28 by Tess Tess
Great one! Reflections are really good.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 10:25:31 by ok3anos ok3anos
the sphere is not rotating. wtf.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 10:30:13 by mueslee mueslee
Nice atmosphere; I especially like colors (red over shades of grey, always convenient!). Great job :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 10:46:26 by phaazon phaazon
Opening scene was a definite highlight.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 11:13:59 by Alopex Alopex
great stuff
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 11:24:21 by v3nom v3nom
The Indiana Jones part, seen in the screenshot, didn't have as much impact. Maybe it was missing some camera shaking. The intro and glass parts were great!

Guille: Sorry to hear you feel bitter about the 2nd place. After 18 years, you should know your compos better: Demosplash was held at Carnegie Mellon, while an awesome place, this is clearly not your heavy tech demoscene hideout. No doubt the audience would fall for something "lighter" with a "retro" or "chiptune" feel.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 11:26:21 by p01 p01
Thumb up because I like it !

Double thumb up because you greeted "pospy team" :D
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 11:31:16 by flure flure
good work!
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 12:11:36 by Rork Rork
still good for me.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 12:28:57 by CodeK CodeK
nice solid good looking demo. nice shading and reflection.
has the quality running through it to easily place itself in the demoscene's top tier %, party placing aside.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 12:32:33 by smash smash
Great work - love the reflective sphere (even if it runs horribly, AMD7870)...
Quote:
@dq : the full version of the song is more than 5mn long. and the "soundcloud" version 2mn40... just that.....

- so your musician is so unrelated to you that you can't even get an edited down version..? :/ - awesome track though, great demo but can't thumb up with watermarked music...
added on the 2013-10-07 13:09:12 by hornet hornet
The rendering and look is top notch - really, really good-looking (and runs smoothly on my PC). The intro is perhaps one of the coolest and best-looking intro-pieces I have seen in 10 years - it. is. stellar.

But that's really where the awesome ends, unfortunately. The rest feels just utterly random and dragged out to fill just barely two minutes, which makes the intro feel misplaced.

On the side of the music, it's a good thing the clearance was worked out, but it doesn't really matter: the watermarked YouTube/SoundCloud-rip is just.. no. Just no. If I had been the musician, I'd be _PISSED_ if you used such a version in your demo.
added on the 2013-10-07 13:17:38 by gloom gloom
for the first minute. the rest is meh.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 14:16:00 by raer raer
Gloom & Hornet not have a musician ... that 's the point of going to soundcloud.
added on the 2013-10-07 14:36:23 by nytrik nytrik
nytrik: you misunderstand me. There's nothing wrong with sourcing music in -- but since you got the permission, you should also have gotten a proper file, not a triple-compressed MP3 with audio watermarks.
added on the 2013-10-07 14:53:48 by gloom gloom
nytrik: what would you think of "Numb Res" if, every 30 second, a voice cut in and said "COPYWRIGHT STEREO WILDLIFE" or "THE LIGHTHOUSE - OUT ON BANDCAMP AND ITUNES ON DECEMBER 18TH!".

Those things, and the bad audio quality, is a total mood-killer, sorry.
added on the 2013-10-07 14:56:38 by gloom gloom
Quote:
it feels that I was cheated as an audience.


way to make a pompous ass out of yourself, gargaj :) even though i do agree about the audio issue.

cool demo. cocoon rocks.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 14:57:01 by superplek superplek
Impressive use of meta-object stuff!! But not fan of other static scenes.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 15:06:05 by norecess norecess
Quote:
software javascript demo wasn't insulting enough

:D
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 15:09:22 by xernobyl xernobyl
Kinda cool. Yes, it's short and stops making more and more sense towards the end, but not enough to justify dropping the thumb.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 15:12:54 by kusma kusma
Something is missing in this demo. It never catches my interes. Seems like sloppy/hurried/left hand work or something. Guess I expected something more . Would probably thumb up if it was a less known/skilled group, so piggie from me.
added on the 2013-10-07 15:18:21 by tFt tFt
Nice little demo, I enjoyed it!

Btw, it's written "pospy" instead of "popsy team" in the greetings, and "razor" miss is "1911" number, but you probably prefer shortened groupname :D
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 15:36:55 by rez rez
nice. doesn't catch me bigtime. vibe is kinda thin and fast. but.. good palette. good visual. good fx.

the audio topic?!? i didn't even really notice the watermarks. the tune's pace and vibe runs them over quite nicely. just reading they were there and "heard" them. better not do that again. ;)
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 15:52:23 by yumeji yumeji
So the music doesn't really fit the demo and overall it's a tad "boring". But I really like the visuals these times. Great red lines / lasers and overall coherency. Much better than the previous Cocoon effort imho. Needs some polishing I guess?!
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 16:15:08 by elend elend
Nice demo
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 17:16:27 by bitl bitl
Starts promising with great style and ends with too much flybys of the same scene. But all in all its a thumb up.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 18:59:53 by gaspode gaspode
generic and soulless.
sucks added on the 2013-10-07 19:01:32 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
Counteracting cherri's usual idiotic thumb-down, plus what Kusma said.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 19:04:36 by gloom gloom
norwegians don't have souls so you don't understand. i pity you.
ok
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 19:35:27 by SiR SiR
Completely agree with kusma, but watermarked music, jesus christ. I fully understand Gargaj's reaction to this.

But

Quote:
Like if ending behind a software javascript demo wasn't insulting enough


Do you usually put yourself on a pedestal? - maybe the voters didn't like the watermarks as well?

.. also, all this fuzz could have been avoided if you just wrote it in the nfo
added on the 2013-10-07 20:10:24 by dwarf dwarf
me like it.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 20:24:37 by bonefish bonefish
Very nice visuals but a little too short / too few scenes, we want moar ! :-)
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 20:29:55 by Cyg_BLaBla Cyg_BLaBla
nice and clean rendered visuals. the demo starts really cool and then gets more and more static.
not sure about the soundtrack - it's quite inconspicuous.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 20:52:53 by a-move a-move
@ Gargaj,

i'm a big fan of the group Plastic, and i think that you're very active on Pouet.net. Unfortunatly, for years now, you are nonexistent in demo production. Are you going to do again some demo on PC or are you going to continue to do theses horrors on PS3???

with all my respect for your talent to code, and for the staff that i also appreciate (group Plastic)
added on the 2013-10-07 20:56:43 by Rafale06 Rafale06
Yo dawg!

i'm a big fan of waffles, and i think that you're very active on Pouet.net. Unfortunatly, for years now, you are nonexistent in waffle production. Are you going to do again some waffles on PC or are you going to continue to do theses horrors on PS3???

with all my respect for your talent to code, and for the staff that i also appreciate (group waffles)
added on the 2013-10-07 21:03:37 by p01 p01
p01 wins :)
added on the 2013-10-07 21:05:33 by superplek superplek
gargaj is a fucking jerk (you know what's up motherfucker) but also a saint and a frequent releaser, so cut that bullshit already
added on the 2013-10-07 21:06:13 by superplek superplek
Rafaele029whatever: boy, you make no sense.
added on the 2013-10-07 21:09:34 by gloom gloom
Nice visuals but rather boring demo. Don't like the music either, no matter if watermarked or not. But using the music like this, well, no comment. And what dwarf said regarding losing to a JS demo. The greetings to "pospy" made me giggle though. :D
added on the 2013-10-07 21:15:33 by StingRay StingRay
servile scum.
you dont get the point.
this is freedom. deal with it.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 21:21:21 by 1in10 1in10
The music is not too interesting and the sound quality doesn't help. I wouldn't care about it being "ripped" though even if it was. Luckily though, the demo is pretty cool (though I'm already getting a bit tired of this style), what a-move said.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 21:38:08 by noby noby
Quote:
Like if ending behind a software javascript demo wasn't insulting enough
fuck off.
sucks added on the 2013-10-07 22:18:03 by ferris ferris
okay. well. this can't be cocoon. i have nothing to say to this.
sucks added on the 2013-10-07 22:53:21 by rudi rudi
Nice 'little' prod, relatively speaking :). Like much those real time reflections used together with 3D modeling. Waiting for the next big Cocoon demo !
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 22:58:41 by Hellflip Hellflip
Like it. Performance could be a bit better ;)
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 23:25:54 by GRX GRX
I agree that hearing the watermark on this audio track is a bit sad.

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(Cocoon boys, don't hate me for that one ... I just couldn't resist :)

Besides, a lovely demo, and a super cool engine.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 23:27:41 by fra fra
Pretty nice, but a bit slow here. Would probably have run faster if it was written in javascript.
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 23:28:02 by raizor raizor
liked the first two scenes a lot :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-07 23:41:39 by Zonbie Zonbie
Those robotic vocals aren't part of the soundtrack ? Really ? I though they were, I found them in sync with the demo, and fitting well with the overall style ! Well, in that case that's a pretty kind of unlock achievement :)
added on the 2013-10-07 23:45:03 by Hellflip Hellflip
Quote:
fuck off.


regardless of the whole platform nonsense it IS fucking bullshit
but that's what demoparties are sorta known for every now and then
added on the 2013-10-08 01:10:24 by superplek superplek
Watched this neat demo on YOUTUBE! ;p
rulez added on the 2013-10-08 02:16:55 by baah baah
+ Nice visuals
+ Music
- The ball doesn't look like it's rotating
- The vocal overlays don't fit
- Too short?

Now I do understand you got permission (I'm not disputing that), and I do see that while you may have gotten permission they might not have wanted to give away a free copy of their song (in the demo release archive), but the version you used is already a mix and shorter than the full thing, so why not work out getting a non-vocalized short mix?

Overall I have to give a piggie. It's certainly a Cocoon prod, but I was left wanting a little bit more.
Didn't do anything for me.
added on the 2013-10-08 06:52:53 by ccr ccr
@AMcBain : What you took for vocals is actually an audio watermark.

It says something like "Cause4Concern Recordings" and "Forthcoming label tracks" ... hence the mini-drama at the top of this page :)
added on the 2013-10-08 07:39:41 by fra fra
Lol, I also thought they were vocals because I could not understand what it actually says :D

I would not be surprised if the Cocoon guys did not even realize it was watermarks, because it's notorious that French people suck at understanding spoken english :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-08 08:04:37 by Dbug Dbug
Definitely thumbworthy! The intro is very nice indeed and the rest holds class.
rulez added on the 2013-10-08 09:04:58 by JvB JvB
This one is hard to judge. Certain parts I liked way more than most stuff in previous Cocoon prods. But there are some quite boring and ugly scenes, and those label watermarks were facepalm-inducing. Still, must thumb up those cool sections, especially the neat intro and the cube-blob-thingy.
rulez added on the 2013-10-08 09:30:03 by break break
I totally agree with Hellflip and Dbug.
A bit sad about the scene drama :(
added on the 2013-10-08 09:43:25 by flure flure
Cool scenes.
rulez added on the 2013-10-08 09:45:58 by Daddy Freddy Daddy Freddy
same as Maali (and music is very bad)
Pretty much what StingRay said. Slick rendering, but those old factory settings and that kinda music just makes me shrug. :)
added on the 2013-10-08 10:42:21 by tomaes tomaes
Also must point out this demo contains hexagons!
added on the 2013-10-08 13:29:19 by JvB JvB
Quote:
by fra:
@AMcBain : What you took for vocals is actually an audio watermark.

It says something like "Cause4Concern Recordings" and "Forthcoming label tracks" ... hence the mini-drama at the top of this page :)

Yes, I know. I was trying to be politer about it and not join the "fight".

The genre and style of the music is great, I like it ... but even if the vocals were different or not a "[audio]mark", I still don't think they would have fit.
OK I plead guilty here. I did not pay attention to the vocals. I genuinely thought it was part of the music....but once again I don really see what was so wrong. We did not steal the music from anyone.
added on the 2013-10-08 20:42:46 by nytrik nytrik
finally an azzaro infofile again! =)
rulez added on the 2013-10-08 22:04:57 by dipswitch dipswitch
The second part was a bit boring, but the first part rocked. Music was good too.
rulez added on the 2013-10-08 22:17:55 by revival revival
Quote:
genuinely thought it was part of the music....but once again I don really see what was so wrong.

That you thought the "vocals" were part of the music is what was wrong :)
added on the 2013-10-08 23:37:23 by gloom gloom
I feel cheated as an audience: this demo is cool! :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-09 21:38:10 by ara ara
Damn, fix the fuckin track and everyone will go happy then
added on the 2013-10-09 22:44:50 by T$ T$
the opening scene is awesome.
the rest is a bit disappointing, despite the gorgeous rendering/effects/graphics.

(and what T$ just said)
rulez added on the 2013-10-09 23:04:31 by wullon wullon
Thumbs up because it totally doesn't feel that I was cheated as an audience
rulez added on the 2013-10-10 00:32:17 by ithaqua ithaqua
has some nice scenes
rulez added on the 2013-10-10 01:16:09 by psenough psenough
Yeah, rendering is great. And the metaballs scene is cool.
rulez added on the 2013-10-10 09:19:43 by Optimus Optimus
Disagree with the title. These days, the style of this prod is pretty safe ;) Looks really wonderfull and the music (apart from all the stuff mentioned before) is great.
rulez added on the 2013-10-10 09:54:46 by Punqtured Punqtured
tFt: Left-hand work i the best kind of work.

Thumb up for the awesome intro and nice rendering.
rulez added on the 2013-10-11 14:47:20 by Mel Mel
Nice quality demo, the music is annoying but is a genuine mistake.. give them a break for fucks sake, its got fucking nice rendering.
rulez added on the 2013-10-11 16:24:32 by dv$ dv$
It's dog slow on NV GTX 650, even at low res. Any chance to see an optimized release? Can't really appreciate when it under 10fps...
added on the 2013-10-12 07:05:05 by Zavie Zavie
O_o--b
rulez added on the 2013-10-12 09:16:18 by aha aha
I couldn't watch it in my very old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with its DirectX 9.0c, etc. I watched its YouTube video recording. It was OK.
added on the 2013-10-12 19:27:34 by AntDude AntDude
+ Music
+ Design
+ Effects

- Watermarked and too compressed music
- Way too low framerate

Thumb up!
rulez added on the 2013-10-13 17:45:04 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
With all this bashing you get for the music with watermark, why dont you release a final version with the proper track. Or would that be admitting error? ;)
added on the 2013-10-15 13:43:35 by tFt tFt
i'm working on a final version... with proper track and with some small change. :)
added on the 2013-10-15 21:06:22 by ntsc_ ntsc_
WOW!
I simply love it!
You finally added some actual demo-effects to your superb style, keep it like that and you´ll start hitting 1st places again! (instead of them damn 2nd ones all the time.)
MOAR PLZ! :D
rulez added on the 2013-10-15 21:31:07 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
+
rulez added on the 2013-10-15 21:54:28 by Xyl2k Xyl2k
a bit better audio quality sure wouldnt hurt, but nevertheless a rocksolid demo very much of my taste :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-15 21:56:13 by gopher gopher
pure awesomeness!!!
rulez added on the 2013-10-16 18:29:56 by Virgill Virgill
the 'watermark' thing is quite disturbing if you think about it :/
hope you sort it out guys! Besides from that. Surely a ruler!
rulez added on the 2013-10-16 21:27:33 by ewerybody ewerybody
sharp stuff. i like it

Quote:
fix ME beautiful

some trollin moderator has given my account a country flag.
could you change it back to "none" please? thank you
rulez added on the 2013-10-17 04:35:35 by gentleman gentleman
For me this is an awesome production! It has all a fresh demo should have. Cemented in pure simplicity, blizztering shaders, stylish objects and organic! Got inspired enough! Good work guys, nice to see you're back!
rulez added on the 2013-10-17 16:44:01 by Xiny6581 Xiny6581
Great shaders - great demo.
rulez added on the 2013-10-17 22:51:57 by auld auld
very nice.
rulez added on the 2013-10-18 10:49:16 by p0ke p0ke
+ one real effect
- performance (especially considering the visuals)
- camera paths & general flybyness
- audio "vocals"
- syncs
sucks added on the 2013-10-19 23:06:54 by pommak pommak
This didn't do it for me. The last scene looks unfinished.
added on the 2013-10-20 04:22:40 by iks iks
Liked it.
rulez added on the 2013-10-21 17:17:31 by chromag chromag
I somehow just find it boring.
sucks added on the 2013-10-22 11:00:31 by Emod Emod
Final is coming folks
added on the 2013-10-22 14:31:38 by nytrik nytrik
Final version :
http://youtu.be/iWR75h3g4wA

EXE is here :
http://blackbox.j-chaos.net/releases/Nothing_Is_Safe_final.rar
added on the 2013-10-23 14:14:48 by nytrik nytrik
thumb for delivering a final.
rulez added on the 2013-10-23 14:58:45 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Proper soundtrack => definitely worth a thumb :)
rulez added on the 2013-10-23 15:45:43 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
I hate this style of music but other than that this is really cool. Models may be a little on the simple side but the way they're rendered is gorgeous.
rulez added on the 2013-10-23 16:19:03 by sagacity sagacity
weak thumb
rulez added on the 2013-10-23 19:33:40 by Frequent Frequent
The opening scene and the subliminal idea were nice.
added on the 2013-10-23 21:46:26 by JAC! JAC!
oh fuck, lovely.
rulez added on the 2013-10-24 16:49:30 by comankh comankh
I miss the vocal! ;)
Can't not thumb this up now! Sync seems off in many parts, blob in particular. Not sure I think the added cuts in the beginning improved it. Awesome rendering quality all through!
rulez added on the 2013-10-24 19:51:35 by hornet hornet
Just watched it without music. And without doubt the visuals deserve a thumb even without music. Awesome stuff!
rulez added on the 2013-10-24 23:02:23 by pixtur pixtur
Even if the demo is not a javascript one (sorry :p ), I must say that it's a fucking cool engine that you're using here !!!
I just feel like you're not using it at its full power...

btw, the opening scene is impressive. I can't wait to see the next demo !! (and thanks for the final version !)
rulez added on the 2013-10-25 22:19:49 by neam neam
It´s nice to see a demo from bunch of old legendary sceners - what members of Cocoon definitely are. This demo is maybe not killer product polished to perfection like your other demos - Nazca, Raw Confessions or Shad 3 . But still is impressive and touching.

Engine and design of demo is slick, but whole demo lacks more content. Music is nice.

Looking forward to another cocoon demos, love your stuff since Shad 1.
rulez added on the 2013-10-27 01:06:01 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
Slick reflections. Would love to see more effects in the next productions.
Sync seems odd at the times. Also fades are bringing the framerate down a lot in turn breaking the demo flow.
rulez added on the 2013-10-30 00:11:28 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
Not enough drama.
sucks added on the 2013-10-31 23:27:16 by doh doh
woohoo, solid!
rulez added on the 2013-11-04 00:37:44 by fiveofive fiveofive
fine
rulez added on the 2013-11-06 10:11:06 by provod provod
Intro scene is very stylish, the rest is nice as well, but I can't quite get why it runs so slow even on highend hardware (GTX780)
rulez added on the 2014-01-15 23:34:11 by Sdw Sdw
Neat!
rulez added on the 2014-01-23 15:30:32 by TheT(ourist) TheT(ourist)
any kind of feelings revisited ?
sucks added on the 2014-01-23 17:23:30 by Bartoshe Bartoshe
Solid visuals and nice music, but it lacks soul. The whole concept and setting somehow feels...overused. Piggy.
added on the 2014-07-14 21:07:43 by Kylearan Kylearan
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rulez added on the 2014-07-16 17:54:21 by cupe cupe
love it!
rulez added on the 2016-07-01 23:09:50 by blackpawn blackpawn
Nice
rulez added on the 2016-07-28 15:37:04 by golem golem

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