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io by Logon System
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release date : march 2015
release party : Forever 2015
compo : 8bit demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 1%
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rulez added on the 2015-03-15 11:43:37 by fyrex fyrex
ace demo, wish to still have my msx
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 11:46:40 by grgh grgh
amazing. wish it was a little bit longer.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 12:11:22 by bonefish bonefish
Nice ,even if I don't know what are the limitations of the MSX1.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 12:14:22 by Beb Beb
Super lovely kool demoshock!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 12:32:25 by fra fra
tune+effects
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 12:32:30 by g0blinish g0blinish
Cheesy in a good way and ultra-slick pace and presentation.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 12:56:30 by CiH CiH
Awesome! But don't work on Russian MSX 2.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 13:17:55 by breeze breeze
Overflow on MSX.. that was definitively unexpected :-) Good job!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 13:23:24 by norecess norecess
That was quite cool surprise and great first attempt at a different machine. The effects are very well done, but I especially like the flow/presentation and really good music.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 13:54:39 by Optimus Optimus
Good fx and transitions.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 14:25:07 by 4mat 4mat
what the goblin said ^^
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 14:43:37 by HellMood HellMood
Awesome!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 14:58:22 by Buckethead Buckethead
Ace stuff.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 15:02:00 by Preacher Preacher
holy shit that was awesome!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 15:28:17 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Good job as always... Hope to see you soon.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 15:38:40 by ast ast
We have these hardware limitations, you know? You can't just come and break them! That is absolutely crazy!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 16:14:16 by NYYRIKKI NYYRIKKI
Kewl!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 16:28:55 by Marq Marq
One note: it doesn't start with a Canon V-20 + Megaflashrom SCC 512k + DOS2 combo.
added on the 2015-03-15 16:46:44 by Marq Marq
nice one
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 16:47:16 by noby noby
Really great job, especially if you consider that MSX machines don't react the same when you try to push the hardware to its limits. A real nightmare for coders :-).
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 16:59:26 by tometjerry tometjerry
Great!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 17:27:51 by BiTL BiTL
ace
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 17:31:58 by branch branch
I.. I liked this very much.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 17:43:16 by leGend leGend
dont work with turbo (and 60hz), idea of "cancel" is bad !
it starts would be on any system...
added on the 2015-03-15 17:50:14 by fyrex fyrex
Top notch!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 20:14:53 by BackSpace BackSpace
Really great!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 22:07:26 by xeron xeron
Very enjoyable. Watched it three times now. Very good pace and msx.
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 22:14:43 by JAC! JAC!
Great demo, great new MSX stuff. But I couldn't get it to work on Toshiba HX-10, PAL 50Hz 64kB machine, with the Nowind interface.
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I need to try again with an actual floppy drive. Maybe Nowind is taking up some bytes? But the error message is about CPU speed, not memory?
added on the 2015-03-15 22:37:24 by yzi yzi
Thanks you guys for the nice comments.

@Breeze,fyrex,izy, and others with message like the screenshot just above:
IO requires precise timing: exactly 313 scanlines, each one w/ 228 cpu-cycles
(btw last scene runs w/o sync: code is constant time 71364c./frame)
When beta-testing, compatibility issues came...
Some are fixed. Ex: runs on TurboR which adds cycle when outing to vdp(!)
Some others are not. Ex: can't patch NMS8280, 228 & a half cycles/lines WTF!?

If IO does not boot/run/reboot or has glitch(es) on your machine,
feel free to either cry or shout at me, and then thumb down right here.
added on the 2015-03-15 23:14:31 by Overflow Overflow
Very impressive technical stuff on the MSX, quite a few effects that left me wondering "How do they do this on that machine?". Nice!
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 23:27:31 by Sdw Sdw
Lovely music, excellent transitions, nice effects. What's not to love?
rulez added on the 2015-03-15 23:30:57 by StingRay StingRay
What StingRay wrote.
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 01:39:23 by Luca/FIRE Luca/FIRE
Supercool!
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 07:48:45 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
cool ... CPC port ? :)
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 09:17:13 by cyb0rg cyb0rg
Transitions and overall feel are good. Music is great.
Logon System on MSX? Nice surprise.
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 10:10:31 by ham ham
Coool
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 13:14:30 by p01 p01
Platform thumb! Music thumb! Effect thumb! Anal thumb! Graphic thumb! Thumb thumb! Got all the thumbs!
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 13:48:46 by elend elend
The demo makes me glad in every aspect -- color selection, smooth feects, anything.
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 13:57:09 by lvd lvd
Oh, these transitions are just exquisite. This is one of these cheecky newschool prods that pretend they are oldschool, but just cannot stop adding polish here and there. I have no idea about the technicality of this stuff on MSX, but this is the proper stuff, coming from an 8-bitter. Very cool indeed!
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 14:24:19 by introspec introspec
What introspec said!
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 17:18:26 by Kylearan Kylearan
Works on SVi-728! :) Great.

(does not work on my Toshiba HX-10 or Canon V-20)
rulez added on the 2015-03-16 20:44:19 by yzi yzi
Hey give me my money back, you crook...

It doesn't work on my Amstrad CPC6128 nor on my Amstrad 6128PLUS...
(haven't tried on my CPC46 yet, though)


Nah, badass prod to show MSX fanboyz were real coders come from.
So much better then the WIP we saw at the µAlchimie 2014...
Very well polished and all... hope you'll show it to us on real hardware and big screen at Alchimie 2015.
rulez added on the 2015-03-17 02:20:36 by MacDeath MacDeath
So this is a MSX1 Demo? Very impressive!
rulez added on the 2015-03-17 10:35:26 by Exin Exin
It's an MSX demo that currently works on some MSX1 models (and there are dozens of them, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MSX_compatible_computers#MSX), but could probably be patched to support most of them with some more effort. Which could mean anything between a few weeks to several years, who knows. It's a great demo, so I hope Overflow has enough willpower and stamina and help from the worldwide MSX community to add support for all different models. Basically, it's a completely crazy effort, something that MSX sceners have only joked about, because it has been considered rediculously tedious. But now Overflow has already almost done it... or is it just the beginning? ;) Anyway, the effects are something that has never been done on the MSX1, an entirely new category of effects is possible if you're able to accurately sync to scanlines like that. And that's not the only new trick here.

To the MSX community, compatibility has always been a strong part of the scene identity, what it means to use MSX compared to other home computers. So, a demo that doesn't support different models goes against that mentality in a way. Though nowadays there are these people who only use emulators or watch youtube videos... ;)
added on the 2015-03-17 17:33:21 by yzi yzi
What others already said. Impressive looking effects, great transitions, good music, all in all great.
rulez added on the 2015-03-17 17:45:54 by break break
nice MSX demo
rulez added on the 2015-03-17 18:13:38 by wood wood
OMG ! croco21 is back in the MSX world ; now i want a msx..
rulez added on the 2015-03-17 19:27:42 by mic mic
Those transitions. So fucking glorious. Perfect pacing. Yes. Yes. Yes.
flow.
rulez added on the 2015-03-17 20:28:28 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
This is one of the demos I would have loved to see in the actual compo, seeing it fresh without knowing anything beforehand. Like, those fullscreen hires 3d scrollers coming up... what is this!? There are too few magical new effects anymore these days, and reading the technical explanations waters down the fun. It should say WARNING: CONTAINS SPOILERS
added on the 2015-03-17 20:48:17 by yzi yzi
is there any technical achivments? can someone give us idea?
rulez added on the 2015-03-18 03:12:23 by unbeliever^x7m unbeliever^x7m
@unbeliever^x7m

IINM IO is the first MSX1 demo which uses much race again the raster style of programming. Rasters, splitrasters, splitscreen, splitscren on each scanline, sprites multiplexing, no sync by wait for VBL but constant-time code all over one frame,...

IMHO this has not been tried or released before. Because of compatibility issues. IO fixes some issues by auto-patching: sync for openmsx VS msx1 VS msx2 or more, 1 clock VS 2 clocks (cpu<>videochip), standard timing VS slow-down when outing on msx turbo r,... Alas! those patches are not enough (read nfo, despite numerous tests). Still some compatibility issues right now, which might be never solved - on some machines - and even on same machine but different version.
added on the 2015-03-18 09:23:46 by Overflow Overflow
absolutely rocking! would love to see more productions like this
rulez added on the 2015-03-18 19:40:32 by pervect pervect
AWESOME AMAZING!!!
The ultimate barrier in coding has been broken.
Never seen something like this on msx !
rulez added on the 2015-03-19 08:29:04 by artrag artrag
Those who said "nice" don't know anything about MSX.
added on the 2015-03-19 17:23:09 by yzi yzi
Very impressive, both design and code wise.
rulez added on the 2015-03-19 18:55:10 by micdune micdune
"nice"
rulez added on the 2015-03-19 21:40:45 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
lol Grimmy :P
truly legendary demo
rulez added on the 2015-03-20 07:11:30 by VBI VBI
technikally - this is unreal, dude. you are top coder.
thanks for inspiraton
added on the 2015-03-20 16:18:25 by VBI VBI
Decent. :)
added on the 2015-03-21 20:04:04 by AntDude AntDude
Cool!
rulez added on the 2015-03-22 16:11:23 by Daniel Daniel
Very entertaining, grabbed my attention until the end
rulez added on the 2015-03-22 17:30:30 by Den Den
Yay!
rulez added on the 2015-03-23 12:45:51 by Frequent Frequent
Short and very cool
rulez added on the 2015-03-23 22:29:45 by FreeFull FreeFull
logon system !!!
great prod
rulez added on the 2015-03-24 14:02:59 by med med
Incredible!
rulez added on the 2015-03-27 16:23:25 by velusip velusip
Wow. Really good. Maybe one of the slickest productions on MSX. The flow is just perfect.
rulez added on the 2015-03-27 17:54:26 by visy visy
Dat music
rulez added on the 2015-04-01 08:26:29 by cerror cerror
kick ass MSX demo
rulez added on the 2015-04-05 21:15:55 by EviL EviL
To whom it may concern: Overflow made for me a specially tuned version that works on the two machines (out of three) that have more CPU cycles per frame than what the demo's original version assumed. I'd like all MSX1 owners to actually run the demo instead of just watching videos. You know who you are, I know you're there.
added on the 2015-04-17 09:02:26 by yzi yzi
Yep, a good short one
rulez added on the 2015-10-28 20:16:02 by nollkolltroll nollkolltroll
Cool! But we are not letting you go away from CPC! You belong to us:)
rulez added on the 2015-11-18 21:39:40 by ∨oXfⱤΞʌ̟X ∨oXfⱤΞʌ̟X
yzi: I have not had the chance to run it on all of my MSX machines, but the ones I tried it on it worked fine.

Also: here's my thumb (:
rulez added on the 2015-11-18 21:42:07 by Haohmaru Haohmaru
all
rulez added on the 2015-11-19 05:58:25 by 1in10 1in10
wah.. unexpected Overflow of effects for MSX! this rocks!
rulez added on the 2016-01-30 20:20:10 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
That's not Possible on this Platform! nominee? thanks!
New extra link: source code. Disclaimer: dirty code & no comment.
added on the 2016-03-13 12:53:00 by Overflow Overflow
I have an MSX Canon V20 model with working cassette recorder. Is there any way to transfer this demo to cassette, so i can load it with a oldskool style?.
Like Bload cas r?

Doh, no its not possible. Sry all :D
rulez added on the 2016-03-25 17:58:27 by moredhel moredhel
Definition of 'rulez'. :) It was very nice to see this, and I like the animated lips of the cyborg woman graphic on the chessfloor. It makes you wonder what she is saying. :)

Separate question since MSX was my main computer before Amiga: Are clone sync diffs etc already documented someplace? If you have links.
rulez added on the 2016-03-25 22:56:27 by Photon Photon
nice
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 16:19:46 by psenough psenough
great looking effects, good tune, underused platform
rulez added on the 2017-07-05 08:30:00 by revenant revenant

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