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Terminal 7 by cocoon [web]
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release date : july 2016
release party : Solskogen 2016
compo : combined demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 87
  • is ok 10
  • sucks 2
popularity : 1%
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alltime top: #996
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Huge!
Perhaps slightly too long but it was the obvious compo winner, miles ahead of the competition. Very nice to experience it from the front row.
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 21:07:54 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
Cocoon always delivers!
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 21:10:12 by ham ham
Totally wrecked the compo!
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 21:23:20 by rohtie rohtie
You are so freaking awesome. Another interesting high quality production that kicks everybody's ass. Respect.
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 21:42:54 by Corial Corial
In your face! (i do recognize influences from the last 4-5 Cocoon pc demos)
Keep bringing such a great demos!

YT: https://youtu.be/DSx2YQ4LoGA
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 21:48:37 by magic magic
fucking enormous
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 21:58:20 by ferris ferris
Very Cocoon in both good and bad. Seemed a bit "seen before" and got dull towards the end, but there's no denying the top quality production values.
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 22:07:47 by break break
this one is huge! immersive environment plus monstertune ♥ love everything about this =)
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 22:07:51 by HellMood HellMood
well done guys
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 22:42:31 by roudoudou roudoudou
Holy shit this was fantastic!
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 22:57:51 by urs urs
the forward-cam-city-scene is totally dope. And a couple of others jaw-dropping scenes too.
Great stuff.
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 23:17:10 by wullon wullon
After the first scene I thought "more of the same", but then you hit me directly into the face. The city scene is awesome and so are most of the other stuff. I love the pace, I love the visual quality and finally there's an amazing drum 'n bass soundtrack in an AAA production again. That's all a bit like 10 years ago, but holy shit, I'm totally blown away!
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 23:21:54 by Bobic Bobic
I rarely find much interest in PC productions but this one was great on the big screen!
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 23:23:13 by 4pLaY 4pLaY
neato track, interesting visuals, all is good
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 23:30:15 by msqrt msqrt
Some of the scenes are too long, but all of them are pretty damn awesome. Big tune as well.
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 23:32:40 by Alpha C Alpha C
What urs said. <3
rulez added on the 2016-07-17 23:54:22 by las las
It's about time Cocoon realized that uptempo fits them better ;)
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 00:00:32 by Gargaj Gargaj
Really impressive demo, massive in-your-face impact! The visuals look stunning with a professional feel to the rendering.
A bit surprising (in a good way) to see such a blockbuster demo released at a comparatively small party, this is the kind of stuff you expect to see on Revision.

I do have one problem (if I recall correctly I had this issue with some previous Cocoon demo as well) - if I select any non-native res, for example 1280x720 and try to run it fullscreen, the demo runs with the wrong aspect ration, I get a 4x3 deformed image with black bars on the side.
Running native (2560x1440) or in a window with lower res gives correct aspect ratio.
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 00:08:43 by Sdw Sdw
I'm a bit torn honestly... again... The engine still obviously rules*, but I can thumb up the engine itself only so many times. Nothing wrong with the graphics either, in fact most of it looks spectacular. I can't even fault the colors or color grading this time, ace all around.

My problem is how all of the content is used. The cameras either don't make much sense or are utterly dull, just rotating around the subject placed on center of screen or flying directly forwards. Then there's the flying through the tunnel with jarring flashes and cuts. The penultimate scene with the ribbon formations is superb though, almost alone redeems all faults. The hyper fast pace is somewhat refreshing too, though still by far my favorite recent cocoon demo is pretty much the antithesis of this.

I'm also not a fan of the mirroring at all. I get it though, I use it too, but I don't think it does justice to the visuals. I feel the trick works best when you abstract it away well enough so that the underlying visuals become indecipherable, but here it was just from time time time slapped on top.

The audio didn't do anything for me. Just cheese in one ear and out the other. Not a bad track in its genre though, I've heard far less memorable examples.

All in all big thumbs up for the graphics work and overall visual quality, and for now a large "meh" for the presentation side. Might change in the future, but I'm too irritated at the moment. I do enjoy this quite a bit more than the Revision demo though.

(* well, if it worked, I don't recall being able to run any of the modern Cocoon demos, all crash with a segfault or something similar)
added on the 2016-07-18 00:27:15 by noby noby
great visuals, not my fav. music.
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 00:53:12 by Ramon B5 Ramon B5
excellent
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 01:14:14 by psenough psenough
What noby said about how the content and cameras are used. I love dnb but was a bit disappointed when it showed up here. I preferred the slower paced cocoon demos a lot more and think this would have worked better with a slower direction / soundtrack as well. This one was too hectic to watch at times (camera and flashes).

Still thumbs up for amazing graphics, tech and overall production quality. The cable and city scene were very nice.
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 01:20:06 by sohx1 sohx1
awful music.
sucks added on the 2016-07-18 01:25:17 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
Oh my god !!! this prod is perfect
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 01:56:32 by Rafale06 Rafale06
Crash after 1st frame, then screen goes black, sound keep playing. Tried windowed/full screen, many res, with/without FXAA, disabled RivaTuner OSD and disabled Aero. Win7 64, GTX 660 (driver 368.81), 3 X LCD.
added on the 2016-07-18 02:57:04 by ramon ramon
typical very polished cocoon prod. some very nice scenes and some not so nice ones. music is ... okish i guess. overall the demo left me cold. a nice looking empty shell. too bad. oink.
Lovely stuff!
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 08:36:16 by Joe_Wrath Joe_Wrath
bright! superbright!
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 09:27:18 by pro pro
Teh music, what is this insanity!! \o/ Great cut to the city-flythrough!
Amazing visuals, great direction. Such great rendering!
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 10:32:35 by hornet hornet
OMG what a blast! Awesome scenes and visual quality :D
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 13:07:27 by rez rez
This was awesome on the big screen :) Very brutal!
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 13:26:21 by rloaderro rloaderro
What noby said, this one is a bit of a love/hate thing for me. And I'd also add the badly timed tunnel scenes to the list of flaws, where you can see the point where the camera/animation jumps back to the beginning of the loop.

Overall it's a solid thumb though.

ps. I really miss a vsync option, the screen tearing is irritating sometimes.
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 13:33:47 by zoom zoom
running the demo gives me a black screen and only music like previous cocoon demos of the last ~2 years.
added on the 2016-07-18 15:28:13 by Maali Maali
coz we stopped lovieng you 2 years ago
added on the 2016-07-18 15:30:31 by nytrik nytrik
loving
added on the 2016-07-18 15:33:26 by nytrik nytrik
Wow. Visually really impressive. It all looks so good and polished. I liked the music too. But just like noby I think the content could've been used a bit better. Although I did quite like the music.
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 16:46:33 by glow glow
Worthy winner. Don't like the music though.
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 17:18:03 by Ok3anos Ok3anos
I thought I could never write this again since 1999, but awesome reactor scene!
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 17:50:17 by noname noname
Reactor are forever : like tunnels and spikeballs
added on the 2016-07-18 17:58:44 by nytrik nytrik
what glow said
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 18:18:21 by raer raer
quite pointless
added on the 2016-07-18 19:22:47 by 1in10 1in10
kiva että jotain tehdään, koska muuten ei olisi kompojakaan
äänen ja kuvan vois vaihtaa johonkin täysin erilaiseen, mutta muuten loistava produ
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 19:42:39 by yzi yzi
...! .

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rulez added on the 2016-07-18 19:46:30 by maytz maytz
Nice!
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 19:51:09 by ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pretty cool despite its tunnel-related deficiencies.
rulez added on the 2016-07-18 22:21:57 by cce cce
Whoa. So much stuff.
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 00:59:43 by Sesse Sesse
I was blown away by this. Cocoon RULE!
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 02:05:25 by Cubed Cubed
While I really enjoy the energy, as well as the visual style, the demo almost outstays its welcome. Still, great polished work.
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 02:07:45 by elend elend
Awesome!
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 02:54:58 by response response
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Windows 7 64b, GTX 970.
It's too bad to have to watch this on Youtube, with all the detail lost in a muddy video.

It's cool to see here some of the light effects no other tech can do. I also liked the mirror effect (although it wasn't exploited to its full potential), the city blue tunnel, and the final cable scene.
added on the 2016-07-19 07:57:14 by Zavie Zavie
that was awesome!

loved the metaballs and the final cables scene much
Always the same, always different.
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 10:18:10 by hfr hfr
Boooooooooooooom! Cocoon domination :)
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 12:57:20 by XT95 XT95
Hellfire : thumb up for the quote
added on the 2016-07-19 14:30:32 by nytrik nytrik
Love the demo but the music left me cold
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 14:54:58 by evilpaul evilpaul
Cool , with killer lighting !
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 17:02:23 by Omid Omid
It was a wise choice to release this at Solskogen where an experienced proctologist ist present to deal with this level of asskicking

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+Soundtrack: thought it was done by H0ffman until credits rolled in. <3 Rorque
+Being able to supply interesting visuals to such a high-energy track. <3 NTSC Extra thumbs up for nearly-readable scrolltext/fonts and the subtle textures ^^
+boobs ... errr ... bloobs ... errr ... blobs. Cannot get enough of these polygonal backgrounds+raymarched foreground scenes since Cocoon returned, graphics and especially music sell the demo but the effects are what really make your prods great Demos <3 Guille

-tbh yes this must be said: cutting the song by 1 minute and some filler cams (in the tunnels near the end) would have made the demo even stronger, at the time the tunnel + credits roll in the music has grown old and repetitive and it would have been better to end earlier.
Please do not take this as offense (instead take it as constructive criticism), this complaint is like whining that the cherry ontop is just dark purple and not black. Congrats, well deserved 1st place!
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 18:59:53 by r1g8 r1g8
ok
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 20:32:21 by fyrex fyrex
Great ride!!
rulez added on the 2016-07-19 22:02:27 by BackSpace BackSpace
the demo was made with unused stuff from 2015 ^^ lots of cancelled project..like the intro supposed to be used for an assembly demo...the city part was supposed to be in the revision 2016 demo etcetc. in fact don't try to find links between each parts
and I still have many oher unused stuff like that...

@zoom : your totally right about the camera. for the lighting/reflection i only use GI, no omni/spot/baking. Our GI use voxel and on too bigger scene that decrease precision..
i "looped" the camera position..restart at 0 each 50frames ^^ i know it's bad :) need more work to do proper loop. the camera in the greets part loop not too bad.
@sdw : ohoh ..i've the same thing here.. (not on my laptop) I thought to be the only one who does it...well i'll
@noby : you right with the mirror fx :) :) it's a poor technique to lengthen a short scene without many effort :)
@zavie : tested an my laptop (i5 win10 gtx 860) and desktop (i7 titan black win 8.1).
added on the 2016-07-19 23:51:52 by ntsc_ ntsc_
fucking ace! so many content and great scenes! killer visuals and sync! <3
rulez added on the 2016-07-20 00:28:29 by v3nom v3nom
this was great, but enjoyable just through youtube, on my quite beefy machine it ran really sub-par and ultra low FPS
rulez added on the 2016-07-20 13:39:16 by citrus citrus
Fantastic stuff!
rulez added on the 2016-07-20 17:34:22 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
last minute was great
rulez added on the 2016-07-20 19:31:34 by rudi rudi
Really nice-looking! It more or less looks the same as all recent Cocoon releases, so no thumbs up for innovation. However, as long as things look (and sound) *this* good I guess there's no reason for complaining at all :)
rulez added on the 2016-07-21 11:22:57 by sagacity sagacity
what sagacity said
+ in contrast to gargaj i'd say that downtempo fits cocoon better. :-)
rulez added on the 2016-07-21 11:46:57 by a-move a-move
Enjoyed it a lot at the compo! Nice music and pace! :)
rulez added on the 2016-07-21 13:56:43 by rimina rimina
@ntsc_: I could run it. The problem is weird though: after some googling, I tried running it as an administrator. It didn't work but this time I had a more explicit error, about it being unable to load d3dcompiler_47.dll. Yet DX was properly installed and that this dll was present. Anyway, I copied the dll in the demo's folder and it could run just fine. So I don't really understand what happened in here.

Side note: as zoom noted, the tearing is really damaging the experience.
added on the 2016-07-21 13:59:27 by Zavie Zavie
I really wish I was at the party place, the soundtrack on the PA must have been awesome.
Thanks you all for the kind comments !
Tried the d3dcompiler_47.dll in folder trick. Went from freezing demo to complete PC hard crash (it shouldn't have made any difference, but it did, somehow...). No blue screen, just black screen and looping noise, had to hit the reset button. :(

Apparently this was tested only on Win 10 and Win 8.1. I guess cocoon's demos will be off the menu for me until Windows 7 compatibility is assured as the risk of files corruption due to PC crash far outweigh the pleasure of viewing their demos running in real time. So youtube it is for now on. :(
sucks added on the 2016-07-21 22:47:15 by ramon ramon
Beautiful/awesome/super. However a bit too fast paced with fade to white flashes. Rocks max.
rulez added on the 2016-07-22 00:21:27 by neoneye neoneye
Thumbing this for the excellent rendering tech and modeling.
rulez added on the 2016-07-23 15:48:05 by drift drift
yep, summon the proctologist
rulez added on the 2016-07-23 17:28:14 by Fell Fell
Decent. :)
added on the 2016-07-23 18:28:05 by AntDude AntDude
Nice demo with metaballs and great music and all that is needed
rulez added on the 2016-07-24 15:04:25 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Kick ass!
rulez added on the 2016-07-24 22:21:18 by malmix malmix
I kept telling you alike: "Your tech is perfect, pacing, graphics, musics, all fine...just misses some effects...it´s all flyby!" ...and you seem to have heard me! :) Since you release Demos with Effects you keep winning Compos!
I love your stuff, keep ´em coming! :)
rulez added on the 2016-07-25 15:57:03 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
hot colourscheme and some original scenes. track kicks!
....i directly went for yt to watch it to avoid zeh komplikationes ;p
rulez added on the 2016-07-25 19:05:05 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
Same old, same old. Solid, impressive, repetitive. Music sucks this time - too long, too boring, too repetitive. Fate of recycled demos :) Clear compo winner.
rulez added on the 2016-07-26 01:44:07 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
I liked it. It’s very well directed and pretty badass. However, I’d like to see something different from you… ;)
rulez added on the 2016-07-26 10:12:18 by phaazon phaazon
Looks really great and the soundtrack does kick some serious ass but it could have done with a little trimming. Also really could have done with a crash cymbal at the end of the soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2016-07-26 13:05:02 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
Blow in the face at party place. One of my favorite Cocoon demo with out a doubt. So clean cut crisp and with a soundtrack that made even Lug00ber jizz in his pants behind the sound system control board :P
rulez added on the 2016-07-27 16:52:05 by tFt tFt
this is the bomb!
rulez added on the 2016-07-27 18:33:22 by Virgill Virgill
Kick ass again, great pace and visuals !
rulez added on the 2016-07-29 01:26:54 by Cyg_BLaBla Cyg_BLaBla
Music not my cup, but effects were ossom!
rulez added on the 2016-07-29 08:30:40 by Emod Emod
What zoom said.
rulez added on the 2016-07-29 20:01:33 by Kylearan Kylearan
Thumb up for guille code and effects!

The rest, oh well, let me just say it was simply hard for me to enjoy, I've tried, I've tried hard. It's not that it's fast or supposed to be kick-ass, bad-ass or whatever. That would be fine... if done right. This is just too simple, too obvious, too "we have seen it already", etc... but it's just me. And again - visually (all presented scenes) look really awesome!
rulez added on the 2016-07-30 23:42:49 by tomkh tomkh
what a trip!!!
loving the visuals and tune even more.
rulez added on the 2016-08-01 14:31:24 by bonefish bonefish
nice demo
rulez added on the 2016-08-01 21:43:54 by spritus spritus
Quite nice.
rulez added on the 2016-08-01 22:05:11 by Mystra Mystra
i don't ever want to leave this terminal
rulez added on the 2016-08-05 06:57:31 by blackpawn blackpawn
Great soundtrack, a cool theme but some scenes were somewhat boring.
In overall a very enjoyable demo.
rulez added on the 2016-08-05 11:15:35 by trigger trigger
i like this one, the music works great for me!
rulez added on the 2016-08-08 07:07:41 by iq iq
current value!?
rulez added on the 2016-08-08 07:52:38 by dq dq
Great!
rulez added on the 2016-08-08 21:48:35 by BiTL BiTL
Nice!
rulez added on the 2016-08-09 23:29:43 by SkyLyrac SkyLyrac
+ Massive at the bigscreen.
+ Nice visuals and soundtrack

- Some annoying flashing should have been removed
rulez added on the 2016-08-11 21:09:10 by Frequent Frequent
Hm but I want to run it on my performance rig! Which runs all demos with the one 8.1 dll added, now that I turned to the dark side. ;) Anyone sorted the Win7 x64 crash?
added on the 2016-08-14 04:15:18 by Photon Photon
Go Go Go
rulez added on the 2016-08-16 18:57:01 by q^nonoil q^nonoil
massive fast paced demo by demoscene elders. 4 thumbs up.
rulez added on the 2016-09-27 23:36:40 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
Dat lighting
rulez added on the 2016-11-13 19:36:19 by Insectecutor Insectecutor
Well, I just can't ge tenough of those polished-to-perfection scenes. Mixing it up with some kaleidoscope vision does feel fresh and makes those fly-by scenes even more impressive.
rulez added on the 2016-11-13 19:52:47 by CONS CONS
I'm normally not vor for the Cocoon style, but the kaleidoscope tunnel zoomer thingies here were honestly cool. Cheap or not. Music was kind of meh, but overall it's still a thumbs up.
rulez added on the 2017-01-19 09:33:26 by Trilkk Trilkk
^ Watched it now when it won the demoklubi award.
added on the 2017-01-19 09:36:02 by Trilkk Trilkk
epic demo geez
rulez added on the 2017-01-20 11:49:04 by EviL EviL

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