Pinball Dreams Amstrad CPC (Preview) by Batman Group
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release date : october 2016
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* First presented at RetroSevilla 2016

* Minimum requirements:

- 128kb of RAM
- Floppy drive

* Instructions:


* IMPORTANT! We strongly recommend to play the game on real CPC & monitor!
added on the 2016-10-27 15:48:34 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 15:59:59 by Emod Emod

* Note that the video does not show the 50 fps properly, so it should be tested on real CPC + monitor!
added on the 2016-10-27 16:00:32 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
Mucho apologies to Blaizer, McKlain and anyone with ears! ^_^
Probably the best pinball i've ever played on Cpc... Congrats !!!
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 16:57:17 by ast ast
I think I can screenshot vote this and feel good about it.
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 17:05:30 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
I have to thumb this one up, wish i had real hardware to test it on :).
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 17:11:16 by 4pLaY 4pLaY
No access to hardware here either, but I'll thumb it up based on the video. Massive work.
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 17:13:46 by Preacher Preacher
Video vote, looks and sounds like very impressive work. Batman Group forever!
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 17:46:03 by break break
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 18:22:28 by Frequent Frequent
After seeing Mahjong/CargoSoft flickering graphic modes are a bit outdated ;)

The best PinballGame on Amstrad for sure.
Really nice preview.
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 18:55:19 by Beb Beb
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 19:15:28 by MandelBOT MandelBOT
Looks awesome!
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 19:21:34 by ham ham
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 19:32:57 by psenough psenough
I hope it will be finished, unlike the C64 version. :)
(also, I secretly wish someone would convert Pinball Fantasies instead :D)
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 19:37:43 by tomaes tomaes
what sensenstahl said
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 19:38:02 by cxw cxw
mandatory thumb up.
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 19:58:59 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 20:49:11 by YERZMYEY/H-PRG YERZMYEY/H-PRG
Nice preview, efficient work!
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 20:54:57 by roudoudou roudoudou
I...don't...believe...this... 8O
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 21:15:13 by rutra80 rutra80
Bloody hell, this is good, this is really good - impressive!! Great job guys!!
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 21:48:37 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
Thumbs up, it looks and scroll really that good on real CPC. Seems to play well too, even though I was never good at pinball games.
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 22:03:30 by Optimus Optimus
No explanation needed for the thumbup.
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 22:04:38 by Hoild Hoild
Holly shit. Amazing Job!
rulezcdc added on the 2016-10-27 22:25:24 by _10b0 _10b0
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 22:56:49 by estrayk estrayk
Really impressive! Good Job BG!
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 23:21:16 by F1REB0Y F1REB0Y
What everyone said.
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 23:23:55 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
I couldn't believe it on the CTM-644-2 and that yellowed 6128 with old logo, a little miracle.. I'm really impressed and it's only a preview. Madness!!!!!
I'm scared by the CPC now, it's like 1989 again and impossible stuff I remember on the ST...
Huge thumb up! Thank you <3
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 23:25:02 by Buckethead Buckethead
YouTube Vote when I get my jaw up again
rulez added on the 2016-10-27 23:50:27 by Triace Triace

The power of Batman Group !!!

Best Amstrad Game !!!! the best group Amstrad scene !!!!

The Spanish, the best !!!!
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 00:39:51 by BATMANBROTHERS BATMANBROTHERS
Very impressive! I like the split-screen!
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 06:57:48 by trixter trixter
Huge... Also what tomaes said about (better) PF :)
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 07:29:04 by Serpent Serpent
This looks very good!
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 08:17:29 by Sparklite Sparklite
Just played it, this really feels like the Amiga original! Completely awesome, please finish it! :)
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 08:39:29 by StingRay StingRay

Will there be sequels (Pinball Fantasies, Pinball Illusions)?
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 11:48:08 by moonshine moonshine
awesome work!
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 12:28:30 by gdiazlo gdiazlo
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 12:41:50 by at0m at0m
Looks decent enough in the video, and that's already worth a thumb. Will still need to check this on real hardware :)
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 12:44:58 by britelite britelite
LE WOW °__°
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 12:49:10 by rez rez
Definitively a game I will play. Really close to the original :)

Don't want to start a polemic, but I feel like real fullscreen could be somewhat technically achievable, maybe there is a missed opportunity here. ** BUT ** since I don't have complete overview of the game (especially in term of memory footprint), I'm just expressing a doubt here. I may be completely wrong :)

I really look forward for final version.
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 13:13:42 by norecess norecess
Previews should never exist. But this Pinball is a cool game.
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 13:48:05 by Supersly Supersly
I agree with Sylvestre, but the graphics are so cool!
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 14:17:01 by Exin Exin
Screenshot thumb!
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 15:42:27 by rloaderro rloaderro
Very cool prod for the CPC. Wouldn't expect less from the Batman guys. I just can't get used to YM sound though.
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 18:23:38 by wood wood
Great job!
rulez added on the 2016-10-28 22:07:39 by exocet exocet
This is wow.
Fine pinball music+sfx+jingles audio system.
rulez added on the 2016-10-30 08:40:23 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
Thanks to everyone for the feedback!

Well, I really do not know if it could get a better result for the intro screens using EGX because they need colors out of the standard CPC palette. I would try, if there were a quick way of testing in EGX, perhaps it is possible to add these modes to Perfect Pix, in order to paint/convert screens more easily.

Everything is possible in CPC!

Current in-game screen are 69632 pixels (mode 1), more than the standard 64000 (320x200). Any way, I agree with you about a wider screen would be much better. I think it would be possible to do it 2 or 4 characters wider, sacrificing some speed, it is mainly a memory issue (speed is no problem, about only half a frame is consumed). But still I can not know if there would be enough memory, I first have to finish the current board, PD is a very demanding game in many ways, for example, I have reserved a buffer of 14kb for musics and sfxs of a board, due to the amount of jingles and sfxs required. And the game must support the four boards, so the required memory for the current board is only an approximation. The same goes for the gfxs of lights, it is still possible that some of the missing boards need more memory for this than the current board.
added on the 2016-10-30 13:21:39 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
Great job!
rulez added on the 2016-10-31 12:52:08 by remax remax
@Rhino yep, thanks for the explanations. I think a wider screen would not actually improve gameplay, so better off to focus on finishing the game first :)
added on the 2016-10-31 13:16:56 by norecess norecess
rulez added on the 2016-10-31 13:17:03 by nula nula
holy shit that looks amazing
will hold my thumb back until its done, tho :)
added on the 2016-10-31 13:21:17 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Nice. This could be a hit in the Amstrad app store.
rulez added on the 2016-10-31 13:41:52 by yzi yzi
@Rhino: I understand, you wanted to have a lot of color... Nice
Supersylvestre have already shown us this kind of mode, years ago.

It could be a nice improvement in your perfect pixel tool if you add this EGX mode. (And a new commandline converter, a bit more easier)

added on the 2016-11-01 12:20:08 by Beb Beb
So good I finally registered my SceneID...
rulez added on the 2016-11-01 14:52:17 by PinballWizard PinballWizard
rulez added on the 2016-11-01 22:43:43 by DuckOfMOPS DuckOfMOPS
F..king unbelievable!!!
How can you do that? :O
rulez added on the 2016-11-02 08:49:22 by mborik mborik
Impressive !
rulez added on the 2016-11-02 10:16:09 by cyb0rg cyb0rg
rulez added on the 2016-11-02 12:17:06 by cruzer cruzer
thumps up!!
rulez added on the 2016-11-02 13:40:35 by sINk sINk
Damn, how to kill Speccy, ST en C64 in the same move....
rulez added on the 2016-11-03 19:26:08 by MacDeath MacDeath
cool stuff.. but game actually still misses the actual rules..
then again, whatever:
rulez added on the 2016-11-03 19:32:11 by toxie toxie
because it's a preview ;) this is going to sell Amstrad like small breadbin ;Pp
Hmmm, I see here more hype than C64 Pinball Dreams preview which was released ten years ago... Additionally C64 version used only 64 kB RAM and 1 Mhz CPU.
added on the 2016-11-04 09:05:13 by mlc mlc
Hey Rhino, this is stunning!
rulez added on the 2016-11-05 13:19:38 by Akio Tenshi Akio Tenshi
omg just crazy, would play with that game when i was kids
rulez added on the 2016-11-06 20:22:41 by med med
rulez added on the 2016-11-06 23:29:00 by EviL EviL
Stunning! Imagine this in 1985.
rulez added on the 2016-11-07 14:20:39 by rhino rhino
on which emulator should we run? on Mess/Mame it is quite a frustrating experience... (btw. if anyone can help improving Mess/Mame emulator, please do, they released all the sources at github)
@nitrofurano I suggest using WinAPE if you are using Win32/64.
added on the 2016-11-07 23:59:49 by norecess norecess
Nice job (but lot of work still needed in order to reach a final version).
rulez added on the 2016-11-10 23:00:34 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Qué ganas tengo de poder jugar a las demás mesas. ¡Ánimo!
rulez added on the 2016-11-10 23:39:54 by cngsoft cngsoft
ultraawesome! :)
rulez added on the 2016-11-10 23:52:21 by mad mad
Little bit desappointed by the graphical aspect (I was expecting hires after Pixel Perfect), but nice gameplay and clever use of CPC strenghts.
rulez added on the 2016-11-12 15:49:44 by Hicks Hicks
Looks and plays great. Awesome!
rulez added on the 2016-11-14 19:19:17 by Octoate Octoate
Insane achievement. I'm never going to play this one though :)
rulez added on the 2016-11-15 08:20:19 by mueslee mueslee
Well done! (even though I was expecting better graphics)
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 21:07:13 by toms toms
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 22:19:45 by rexbeng/PA rexbeng/PA
rulez added on the 2016-11-18 07:48:13 by jmph jmph
Absolute rulage!
rulez added on the 2016-11-19 17:22:34 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
There must have been shitloads of work to make this happen. My hats off to you!
rulez added on the 2016-11-20 03:55:41 by rock rock
Very good..! Amstrad CPC has in some aspects quite nice hardware! Because of that up/down scrolling with huge bitmap is so easy. But please, pretty please: consider doing this in EGX ("320x200" with 16 colors) as in Imperial Mahjong. That game raised technical level quite a bit. ;-)

Would be graphically far better off _and_ wouldn't sacrifice any memory. (And how about ball with sub-pixel rendering/anti-alias?) You could probably squeeze in sample playback in the music player as well (as a side-effect). Huge work, of course. =P
added on the 2016-11-23 13:49:51 by Sparklite Sparklite
rulez added on the 2016-11-23 15:04:46 by Yoyost Yoyost
rulez added on the 2016-11-23 15:27:54 by Sir Sir
rulez added on the 2017-01-03 17:20:49 by BackSpace BackSpace
Thanks for the suggestion, although I'm afraid EGX requires a CPU usage which would not be feasible in-game.
added on the 2017-01-16 18:43:10 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
... and a crazy graphist with lots of motivation to make it look good
thought i had thumbed it already. amazing work already dudes!
rulez added on the 2017-01-19 01:50:36 by ZheigmanRC ZheigmanRC
Next table "Steel Wheel":

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added on the 2017-03-10 12:42:23 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
Cool and awesome work. Respect!
rulez added on the 2017-04-16 21:39:01 by HAL6128 HAL6128
WOW! Waiting for the final... ;-)
rulez added on the 2017-04-21 21:29:58 by RufUsul RufUsul
And "Nightmare"!

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added on the 2017-04-27 22:09:58 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
wow beat box looked allready fantastic, I think the other are even better. =]
this is glorious insanity
rulez added on the 2017-04-29 17:39:33 by Fell Fell
rulez added on the 2017-07-06 21:10:21 by venex venex
looks and sounds extremely solid so far!
rulez added on the 2017-07-06 21:34:56 by Revenant Revenant
looks great!
rulez added on the 2017-07-06 22:43:41 by Ok3anos Ok3anos
wow these look fantastic.. Would give another thumb :)
added on the 2017-07-06 23:06:56 by mad mad
Unbelievable! What a fantastic work!

Will the source code of this game be released?
rulez added on the 2017-07-08 18:52:32 by sdsnatcher sdsnatcher

Thank you!
At the moment it is not planned to publish the source code, but depending on how many people be interested it might be possible.
added on the 2017-08-08 00:05:48 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
rulez added on the 2017-11-01 23:50:24 by Cyprian Cyprian
Wow. Just W-O-W!
I truly admire your skills and dedication!
I personally do not have a CPC but I would buy one to play it on a real hw! =)

Do you reverse-engineer the amiga source code and adapt/improve it for the Schneider's CPU? Seem most probable knowing it is aimed to be as closed amiga-like as possible.
Anyway, GOOD LUCK!
Waiting with impatience to se the final (or even 9o%) result!
rulez added on the 2017-11-02 22:37:05 by sim sim
We are doing it from scratch, without disassembling the original.
Still, I hope it's as fun to play in CPC as in Amiga!
added on the 2017-11-15 12:34:12 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG

Batman Group is proud to present our new division for the game development "BG Games".

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This new brand arises from the need to show the world the true potential of CPC as gaming machine.

Pinball Dreams will be the first of our releases. Finished since November, we're just waiting to close a deal with the giant Rebellion to bring the CPC the official version of the famed classic on which industry legends like 21st Century Entertainment or DICE were founded.

The wait will be worth it...

In the meantime, we'd like to show you a new little preview in this video teaser:

added on the 2019-02-16 20:04:42 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG

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