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screenshot added by pandur on 2002-07-21 13:54:11
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release date : july 2002
release party : Underground Conference 2002
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
invitation for : Evoke 2002
  • rulez 35
  • is ok 25
  • sucks 3
popularity : 0%
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  • rulez 0.51
alltime top: #2243
added on the 2002-07-21 13:54:11 by pandur pandur

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Yeah, nice one. Even if this roto-thing doesn't work here ;)
Dipswitchs Mukke passt wunnebar.
Featuring Ueberwachungskamera 2002.
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 13:58:21 by avatar avatar
looks nice and half (some parts) of the track were cool, but the presentation isn't 'going' anywhere...
added on the 2002-07-21 14:13:03 by funktion funktion
Nice cel shading, but way too fast and confusing.
Und irgendwie.... zu stückelig :)
The Kamera looks nice though.
added on the 2002-07-21 14:47:11 by cyraxx cyraxx
cool 3d-objects but lamer music (you'll receive a thumb down for that!)
sucks added on the 2002-07-21 15:11:55 by rasmus/loonies rasmus/loonies
They are doing the mistake of repeating the boring effects.
sucks added on the 2002-07-21 16:04:45 by Wain Wain
pros: some interesting objects, the ever-sweet toonshading (even despite bugged and applied to uninteresting objects), pieces of good design here and there.
cons: boring d'n'b track, too chaotic synching, repeating scenes and, as mf! put it, it lacks any highpoint\climax of some sort..
but it's still not worth a thumb down in my book.. 8]
added on the 2002-07-21 16:17:21 by bhead bhead
toon shade and some 3d object was good.
however, I didn't like the music.
added on the 2002-07-21 17:12:22 by got got
renegade style... drum-n-bass massive inside! i enjoyed it! interresting object but a bit repetitive though...
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 17:36:34 by brioche brioche
macaw what the heck, lamermusic ? just because you don't like techstep d'n'b or smth, you cant call me a lamer, take care what you say.
added on the 2002-07-21 17:43:37 by dipswitch dipswitch
it's actually very easy to call you a lamer
neat stuff.
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 17:52:19 by droid droid
ile: gimme a reason to call me a lamer, bitch. but there's no need to do it here, i dont want to spam our beautiful prod's topic with such crap.
added on the 2002-07-21 17:56:00 by dipswitch dipswitch
nice demo. i love the cel-shading effect and the cool background artwork. bm go on! ;)
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 18:00:36 by jacen jacen
cool 3d, and i liked the music
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 18:01:45 by ileaardbei ileaardbei
nice design.
have to agree with macaw on the musicpart. sounds like you've stolen samples from the ghosthouse in supermarioworld.
added on the 2002-07-21 18:29:10 by leijaa leijaa
This would have seriously kicked ass as a 64k intro. The 3D looks nice, but the whole thing is getting a bit repetitive after a minute.
added on the 2002-07-21 19:20:15 by zeroic zeroic
At the end it gets a bit boring, but all in all it´s very nice. Cool Colors, cool 3d-style, nice music, etc. Thumbs up.
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 20:01:12 by diver diver
smart object show, tasteful stuff, an alternative dnb tune
added on the 2002-07-21 20:15:25 by _-_-__ _-_-__
i like the camera
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 21:40:46 by marlowe marlowe
straight and great style funcking cool sync and sound - respect auf jeden ein perle ;)
added on the 2002-07-21 23:03:24 by critikill critikill
straight and great style funcking cool sync and sound - respect auf jeden ein perle ;)
rulez added on the 2002-07-21 23:03:28 by critikill critikill
Very nice demo and really serious for such a party. A slightly shorter running time would be maybe better.
added on the 2002-07-22 01:03:39 by Crest Crest
Dipswitch: i dont want to spam our beautiful prod's topic with such crap.

Yeah and you're a real piece of work yourself, assbandit.
added on the 2002-07-22 02:15:02 by Shifter Shifter
i really like the demo, shouts out to pandur/dip/ave/igor for creating this. i really appreciate this work. respect for releasing this at uc6.22 which ain't no big party at all.
rulez added on the 2002-07-22 03:43:39 by supah supah
Very nice demo and really serious for such a party. A slightly shorter running time would be maybe better.
rulez added on the 2002-07-22 10:06:37 by xxx xxx
cell-shadeing rockz
fucking great soundtrack
and keep in mind, it's only an invitation for Evoke:)
rulez added on the 2002-07-22 10:33:36 by abductee abductee
cute stuff, unfortunatly the music totally ruined the experience for me, sorry dip.

to me it didn't fit pandurs design at all, it was too dark and aggressive whilst his design was happy-summer-hiphop'ish or something :)

and the scenechanges were kinda abrupt and incoherent, but individually they all looked fresh.
some scenes could've had more playtime, and some had less.
added on the 2002-07-22 10:47:28 by jelly jelly
rulez! cool style... outstanding&cool music :)
rulez added on the 2002-07-22 16:51:46 by barock barock
Mhmm, repeating the whole demo and it's not-that-great scenes is almost a crime. I'd rather watch a short and unfinished demo than a long and self-repeating unfinished demo for a second time. The music doesn't fit and it's also a little bit dull and empty. The design is alright, but lacks detail. Sync was ok, but much too hectic towards the end.

Still, a fairly good one, but Block Maniacs remains my favourite BM demo, even if it faces similar problems (unfinished&empty).
added on the 2002-07-22 21:10:42 by tomaes tomaes
/me *heart* pandur
rulez added on the 2002-07-22 21:37:23 by gekko gekko
erhm... I *heart* pandur =)
added on the 2002-07-22 21:37:55 by gekko gekko
but the music is horrible :(
added on the 2002-07-22 21:50:11 by gekko gekko
Great camerawork/sync, cell shading rocks, and the design is nice too. But the music could be alot better (I like dnb, mind you), repetition is catastrophic and makes the demo long and boring.
added on the 2002-07-23 00:04:54 by moT moT
neat design, the musick was ok; it just didn't fit into the demo at all. =)
added on the 2002-07-23 00:16:58 by dalezr dalezr
my music seems to cause lots of confusion =)... well, some people like it alot, some people don't. i'm quite satisfied with it, of course it's far from perfect but it at least gave me a good feeling seeing single people on UC actually dancing to it. and, well, if my music draws so many (positive and negative) attention to itself, it isn't so standart, and thats what i intended it to be. to those who consider this music too dark, i just can say, i don't like to make "happy happy joy" music, my music must be aggressive and cause many controversion =)... and leia, no i don't rip samples from no games. and watch out critizising others music as your musical work for squirrelz was far from perfect till now..=) no hard feelings though.
as closing words i may say, even if some poeple wish i won't give up (doing music too long now to give it up anyway) and you can expect some music in some forthcoming productions from me aswell.. demos cant only contain pling-plong-ish undefined "demo"music no people in a club would dance to.
added on the 2002-07-23 00:25:58 by dipswitch dipswitch
(wiping tears off my cheek)

What I really like about you, Dipswitch, is that you sometimes REALLY don't get the point at all. And perhaps you are a lamer, something Ile didn't imply with his comment per se btw.
added on the 2002-07-23 03:35:03 by Shifter Shifter
no comment on this. any statements about/against/for my person can be continued on irc, and please not here. it's getting really annoying. i did nothing but made an explaining statement about my music, nothing more. this is getting really stupid, and i don't want to put black maiden in a bad light, so please carry this foolish talk into the irc and not here. okay ?
added on the 2002-07-23 04:23:03 by dipswitch dipswitch
the msuci is lame
rulez added on the 2002-07-24 04:45:14 by paniq paniq
<dipswitch> solange da nicht nur steht "the msuci is lame'" =)
<dipswitch> music even
<pnq> okay schreib ich rein
<pnq> "the msuci is lame"
<dipswitch> haha halz maul
added on the 2002-07-24 04:47:03 by dipswitch dipswitch
very cool style and visuals, definitely deserves a rulez!
dipswitch, don't be so defensive
rulez added on the 2002-07-24 11:38:21 by cats cats
supah: i didnt do anything.. it´s all pandurs, igors & dips work.

daumen hoch, die herren.
rulez added on the 2002-07-24 21:08:49 by avebm avebm
Looks really nice, but looks like someone ran out of ideas and started repeating the same scenes all over again (boring). Music ain't that good (even if I am a huge dnb fan, or maybe because of that).
added on the 2002-07-24 22:49:38 by teel teel
the prod is really cool, but the music is ... hrm, rather weird.
rulez added on the 2002-07-29 01:25:47 by delta delta
sound screws up with my soundcard, so the music was terrible. Playing it standalone proved the audio isn't *that* bad.

Decent demo too.
added on the 2002-07-29 01:29:56 by Shifter Shifter
so, thanx for the comments...
some ppl like it, some not...
it´s just a personal taste...
but calling dip a "lamer" is not ok...
some ppl will never learn to respect other ppl´s work... and if they do so, so they r crowling up in the ass off that someone...
and it seems like here on pouet are some ppl without any expirience in making demos... it is easy to do a single effect, but do a bunch of them, get some 2d/3d gfx, a song, and make a demo... and than: you will see how difficult it´s to make a demo that has the quality you would like to have as a coder, and dont forgett the gfx-man, and the sound-man... so, now you have a demo you(and your mates) personaly like... it is ok... we know "we have done", we know "we can do it better"...
we have done, do it better or "halz mowl" !
added on the 2002-07-29 03:16:56 by Igoronimo Igoronimo
bypass luvs bm!
added on the 2002-07-31 22:47:07 by gekko gekko
bypass... let ya fingas from pandur !!!
added on the 2002-08-01 02:11:46 by Igoronimo Igoronimo
It looks pretty good, but did get me too excited. Generally I like cell-shading, and it looks nice here, but...

And I often got these white screens between scenes that would display for about 15 or so seconds.
white screens in ya pantz...
added on the 2002-08-01 02:36:30 by Igoronimo Igoronimo
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added on the 2002-08-02 10:47:37 by Mike 3D Mike 3D
why not ? ;)
added on the 2002-08-03 04:40:00 by Igoronimo Igoronimo

the visual side of demo really kicks... really nice show. on the other hand, connection between visuals and sync is not as exciting. music doesnt work for me too - its really not a bad track but nothing special and doesnt keep up with the demo.

anyway, because of the visual candy its a worthy one.

rulez added on the 2002-08-06 03:37:24 by raver raver
raver, can it be that your comp is kinda slow or smth ? the sync was ment to be very exact, and it IS on fast machines. we spent 8 hours on the sync too...=)
added on the 2002-08-06 12:36:35 by dipswitch dipswitch
IgorBM :)
added on the 2002-08-06 12:38:20 by gekko gekko
Was almost a thumbs up, even with the cliche cell/cartoon shading, but then they decided to repeat all the effects, because they couldn't think up any more to run out the soundtrack. Just cut it short next time, guys. Otherwise yeah, some nice visuals and the music ain't bad.
added on the 2002-08-08 00:00:35 by phoenix phoenix
Bad thing: Too much repeat
Good thing: Nice effects, and cartoon'ish demos ALWAYS rock imho! Although Le Petit Prince is a little better to do that.
rulez added on the 2002-08-22 08:29:49 by FreeAll FreeAll
good 3d and 2d. Sucky music.
added on the 2002-08-22 11:46:13 by niles niles
Great demo. The music neess work but there re some really good ideas in it. More production in both and it would rule so bad.. ohhhwell even with the current tune it rocks!!!
rulez added on the 2002-08-22 11:57:52 by NoahR NoahR
the music is cool, i don't find out why ppl doesn't really like it.... then WOW CEL SHADING eheh i just luv that prod!!!!!
pandur you're my man eheh
rulez added on the 2002-08-24 02:31:55 by __ __
you rock guys!! =)
rulez added on the 2002-08-24 21:13:50 by nystep nystep
me would like to make a cracktro for razor...
razor cracks rulez, cracktros suxx...
me can do better...
i wanna join razor !
get all the warez, would be nice,
via snail-mail !
me lame ?
added on the 2002-08-30 04:01:46 by Igoronimo Igoronimo

dip yes i am on slow machine, maybe thats why.. :/

added on the 2002-08-30 04:15:03 by raver raver
raver: my machine is "p3-450, 192mb & tnt2" it runs smooth with win98...
my lameness is using stencil buffer without using it, so it will run very slow on gfx-cards bellow tnt2 (and any ati using 16bit color deptht), but anyway, no one is crying for a final... so i want do it...
in some hours evoke will start...
added on the 2002-08-30 04:27:07 by Igoronimo Igoronimo

thats the thing. i think 600+something mhz here, never bothered to check but definitely shitty gfxcard..

added on the 2002-08-30 05:30:56 by raver raver
yo, dipswitch, i know for a fact that when "people" dance infront of a demo at a party it doesn't necessarily mean they actually like it :-D
my god this music suckssss!
visuals are good, rendering is very clean
ideas are good, but 3d scenes are too static itself
it's fun to see the synchro screenshot in the data directory
it can be very good, but it's seems too unfinished and this noize sucks, so no thumb up
hehe, it´s nice to see ppl watching what´s in the data folder ;)
the synctool is pandur his babe...
added on the 2002-09-15 23:57:49 by Igoronimo Igoronimo
and thumb up again, why do you fuckin criticize that music...................???!!!!!!!!
this is different so this is original so wtf?
do you still want the same music???
so let's go!
added on the 2002-09-24 18:49:19 by __ __
Great demo. Shame that it's too long and the drums sound too bad.
rulez added on the 2002-11-15 00:00:23 by Gargaj Gargaj
For me one of the best demos in 2002.
Superb clean design.
Drum'n'bass music.

"cassette" + "camera" scenes rulez!

rulez added on the 2003-01-02 10:32:38 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
nice.
rulez added on the 2003-01-02 10:44:54 by superplek superplek
bm + bypass = <3
added on the 2003-03-17 13:52:53 by __ __
gutes ding
rulez added on the 2003-06-10 02:53:55 by tomic tomic
final coming soon...
very bad code i´ve done on this one...
added on the 2003-07-25 03:39:39 by Igoronimo Igoronimo
Hm, I'm not so sure that you are getting the price for the most delayed final when you are waiting only a bit more than a year ;)
added on the 2003-07-26 01:10:35 by Crest Crest
cool comic style
rulez added on the 2003-11-13 17:32:41 by js js
great demo. the tune is damn cool.
rulez added on the 2004-09-14 14:30:58 by bLa bLa

okay, since igor left BM there's not really a chance for a final version. so i decided to give the final version of the soundtrack to the public. the horrible drums of the party version are replaced by far better ones, a decent bassline and a few other bells and whistles were added too. here you go:

http://evul.net/~dip/music/dipswitch-stueckelwerk_final.mp3

the soundtrack was completely made in jeskola buzz.

and also, over two years later, i can say i'm feeling very sorry for firing up this unneccesary rant here. my music wasn't the best, period.
added on the 2004-09-19 18:47:22 by dipswitch dipswitch
Watched it with both musics, the final is mostly better but some parts are better with the party-music.
/me looks at weasel :)
rulez added on the 2004-09-19 19:22:38 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
hmmm i dont really recommend to replace the musicfile. tried that, but then it's pretty out of sync, although the final music version has exactly same length.
added on the 2004-09-19 19:24:15 by dipswitch dipswitch
Great demo, one of the best of 02 imho.

And Igor, YOU ROCK! Your the best =) (Thanks for the source btw)
rulez added on the 2004-09-19 19:38:47 by Nezbie Nezbie
Contrary to the title I find this quite consistent, even though the music sucks.
added on the 2005-02-20 02:10:55 by beavis77 beavis77
rulez added on the 2005-05-26 02:12:45 by las las
Fresh style. I like this one.
rulez added on the 2005-09-16 05:50:19 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
nice design, ok'ish demo
added on the 2006-01-31 21:12:15 by gg|rhg gg|rhg
thumbs down for the extremly bad music
sucks added on the 2006-03-14 16:33:25 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Style.
rulez added on the 2007-01-24 21:39:23 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
The demo itself is OK even though it gets boring after a while since the scenes are just repeated over and over again. However, the rather annoying music completely spoils it. Piggie.
added on the 2011-12-24 15:02:02 by StingRay StingRay
nice, I indeed found the music boring
Cartoon style rendering never really interested me that much, especially if it isn't done as close as possibly to perfection. Very "cool" still, with well above average syncing. Track's a blooter as well.
rulez added on the 2015-06-26 23:31:25 by noby noby

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