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Dying Stars by orange
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screenshot added by 100bit on 2018-08-05 14:07:51
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release date : august 2018
release party : Assembly 2018
compo : pc demo
ranked : 3rd
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added on the 2018-08-05 14:07:51 by 100bit 100bit

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Wow, that's how a 17 year comeback should be.

It pisses me off a bit because it's such a perfect "demo" demo, but since it's UE you can't really carry it around as a great example for the scene. :(
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:11:41 by Gargaj Gargaj
Fuck yeah. My fave from the compo!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:12:23 by leGend leGend
i liked this one the best of the top 3. hope to see more from this duo!
i love how musically there is a solid spine on which chord progressions give a spin of madness, plus the fact how the demo is a 2-parter with the different sounding tune.

i was lost a bit at the 'it' reference and the demoscene poetry, but the part with the plugs and the 'cardboard skull' were a jawdropper.

MORE PLEASE!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:15:50 by nagz nagz
probably the best comeback on pc scene ever. incredibly stunning, and dune's music is fucking ace!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:37:12 by wbc\\bz7 wbc\\bz7
welcome back =)
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:38:51 by HellMood HellMood
So happy to have you guys back, this is very, very good :) When Dune goes "full Dune" in the credits scene, I almost fainted.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:40:28 by gloom gloom
nice one
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:42:02 by skarab skarab
this is massive! and the credits are the shit!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:47:37 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Beautiful, amazing. Can't believe this didn't place second. Don't even care that it's UE. The only thing I didn't like was the glenz stuff.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 14:55:25 by break break
Yuge respect to Der Piipo for doing all of this on his own, and with very limited time!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 15:06:04 by Dune Dune
If you are making a demo with UE, please declare so on your composlide and in your nfo. “PC Nvidia, Mad Skills” is not a suitable platform description.

As for the demo itself, it completely drowned for me due to being placed after ASD. I'll need to re-watch it when there's a capture out.
added on the 2018-08-05 15:09:15 by Sesse Sesse
Incredibly satisfying demo. Welcome back guys!

The cardboard skull.. whoaaa...
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 15:37:41 by aMUSiC aMUSiC
Nice comeback.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 15:37:57 by rudi rudi
Welcome back indeed. The skull part was out of this world.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 16:26:13 by DickThunder DickThunder
Problems:
1. UE should be declared.
2. I have found some of the symbolic representations to be a bit too obvious / naive.
3. DNA has major/minor groove (just phase-shift one of those damn helices a bit).

Other than that, I really like the flow and the style. So actually - keep it up!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 16:27:42 by tomkh tomkh
comeback thumb
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 16:48:56 by psenough psenough
My fave. Fantastic visuals and especially the main part tune is soooo great...
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:00:59 by Serpent Serpent
This is a good demo. I thought the clown was proper scary.

Also, and here's something other competitors may learn from: IT DOES NOT TAKE TOO LONG.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:11:30 by superplek superplek
Impressive comeback.
I dont care about UE4 or not.
Music is ace. Visuals also.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:18:41 by gopher gopher
Well that was a let down. I was so hyped when I saw it, the music, the visuals were just epic. Than came the scnee with the skull! Hyped stuff man, Ace! The atmopshere, the colors. Subtle text. Everything fitted nicely. What I comeback I thought!

So yeah than I figured out you guys just ripped UE . Pfff. It seems to be the norm these days since Pyrotech did the same. I should thumb it down but it is just too nice to do that. Piggie instead.
added on the 2018-08-05 17:20:53 by numtek numtek
nice comeback!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:26:35 by FlashyYNT FlashyYNT
a bit lingering for my taste but hey, nop notch stuff!
also lol @ crying about the engine
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:31:44 by msqrt msqrt
Yeah what the fuck is that about, people whining about UE shouldn't give Fairlight a pass either. Own engine? Blow me, that thing was made as a commercial product.

It does not matter, making demos like this is still a time consuming art. Some people just decide not to spend it on boilerplate code.
added on the 2018-08-05 17:37:39 by superplek superplek
A huge megademo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:38:16 by cce cce
There's absolutely no point in making a demo in unreal engine. Why not make it in 3D studio then? Unreal demos belong to the wild compo, not the demo compo.
sucks added on the 2018-08-05 17:41:46 by Nuclear Nuclear
MASSIVE intelligent soundtrack. Could listen to the main theme for hours and hours.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:48:28 by Virgill Virgill
This is my winner. It's the perfect stream of consciousness demo that tickles the synapses in my subconsciousness. I don't think the symbolism was too obvious or naive for the most part either. The audio is nothing but sublime... iI've had that sinewave melody in my head the entire day.

Also UE is free to win over anyone's lame demoscene code. Suck it nerds.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:54:21 by noby noby
Great come back guys!...
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:55:05 by hardfire hardfire
Mmmmmm. Those colors. That skull scene is just such visual candy. And I don't even like skulls in demos.. The music is pure <3 (as always).

Also, I'd love to have the credits part as a screensaver :D Could watch it all day on repeat..
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 17:55:42 by leijaa leijaa
Quote:
Yeah what the fuck is that about, people whining about UE shouldn't give Fairlight a pass either. Own engine? Blow me, that thing was made as a commercial product.
Yeah but it their own commercial product. It started out as a demoenigne. But even if that wasn't the case they coded every line themselfs. Sure by now they have expanded and others have chipped in, but Notch isn't comparable with UE in the way it related to the scene. UE was never ment to make demos with. Notch is the other way around: in the beginning I'm quitte sure they never thought they would tour the world over with Beyonce and Coldplay. UE is targeted to serve gamers as endusers.

I made some cash as well by vj'ing using our own demos made with our own engine. I know serveral other groups who operate along the same line. The line is blurred soemtimes. Nothing wrong with making money right?

Quote:
It does not matter, making demos like this is still a time consuming art. Some people just decide not to spend it on boilerplate code.
Agreed. No one should be forced to write boilerplate code, but at least give credit wehere credit is due.
added on the 2018-08-05 18:00:54 by numtek numtek
Quote:
UE was never ment to make demos with.

You were never meant to put code in PE headers either or play back PCM on a C64. UE is used for multitude of use cases many of which resemble the demoscene anyway.
added on the 2018-08-05 18:05:30 by noby noby
this is what it looks like if an amiga born concept is taken to the modern age.

orange!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 18:34:18 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
I can't get excited about big demos these days, but thanks for all the demos. Motivational thumb.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 18:48:26 by yzi yzi
Very enjoyable!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 18:57:16 by Mystra Mystra
yeah, that clown was scary :)
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 19:10:26 by natalia natalia
Glorious. I figured with Der Piipo behind the wheel they used some kind of demo engine, but to get to this level, that's ok with me. Destop and Mazor drive most of the CNCD/FLT content these days too. And it actually runs at a decent framerate. Also, what Leia said.
rulezcdc added on the 2018-08-05 19:42:16 by phoenix phoenix
\orange/
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 20:05:31 by TrX TrX
Looks absolutely fantastic! Very happy to see some Der piipo gfx again. I like this birth of the demoscene clown thing. The ripped apart skull effect was really sweet.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 20:17:28 by rloaderro rloaderro
10 million hot magma particles, new world record.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 21:33:00 by Zplex Zplex
float robot float!
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 21:44:13 by RufUsul RufUsul
a diamond of a product <3
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 22:07:13 by raztaman raztaman
Loved it! Needs more care and attention to scene coherence and direction but so crisp and visually pleasing with a distinct style.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 22:18:51 by dv$ dv$
so glad you floated back, never thought I'd get to see another orange demo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 22:38:39 by mantratronic mantratronic
what's going on at assembly? everyone doing demos like they are 16 again? surely there was something odd in the drinks!!!! hot magma is surely hot
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 23:01:09 by mop mop
Great
rulez added on the 2018-08-05 23:45:33 by BiTL BiTL
So much happiness... Makes we wanna cry! Orange is back!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 00:01:42 by alkama alkama
Yes, god bless success, never forsake the soul
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 00:03:23 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
I very much hope that you won't discouraged by the silly discussion of the appropriateness of your toolchain. The demo is very nice, bright and varied. My only slight complaint is about the glitches: they seemed a little too regular and predictable.
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 00:37:06 by introspec introspec
Nice! Runs fast on my pc, that's cool! :)
Orange! Ohh... The memories.. Nice one :)
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 01:50:21 by PauloFalcao PauloFalcao
UE or not, the visuals are awesome!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 01:50:37 by Daniel Daniel
Sweet!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 07:03:45 by ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Best in show.
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 07:53:47 by Daddy Freddy Daddy Freddy
Beginning up until 1:40 was so bonkers good it defies imagination, but then that direction was kind of lost. Might be just my impression though, and that's nitpicking anyway, since this was huge.
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 08:09:14 by Trilkk Trilkk
O_o--b
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 08:25:37 by aha aha
More! 🤩
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 09:06:26 by mrdoob mrdoob
I don’t care about the tools used, the result is fantastic!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 09:34:12 by Triace Triace
This makes mes feel the same as the Andromeda comeback long time ago - my childhood heroes are back but it's different from what one would expect. It's not off-kilter bitmap effects, minimalism and funny bitmaps, but something completely different. And it's marvellous, very demolike in the oldschool sense and completely 2018. And in that same old spirit.

I love it.
rulezcdc added on the 2018-08-06 10:36:03 by Preacher Preacher
Couldn't care less about the tools used to make this demo. It's just a beautiful piece of art which I truly enjoyed.
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 10:40:22 by StingRay StingRay
Welcome back - I missed you! :)
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 10:47:42 by rp^frstl rp^frstl
Nice, but... UE.
added on the 2018-08-06 12:17:22 by jimmi jimmi
really nice prod, but it feels like it's lacking direction.
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 13:03:53 by iks iks
Marvelous work. I'm glad you're back!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 15:04:29 by Paralax Paralax
2Dune: one note bass line ;)))

this one is so cool, soundtrack and visuals - love it!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 16:07:22 by keen keen
Huge thumb up for that soundtrack. Somewhere between Aes Dana and Vangelis? No idea, but I totally got lost in it while watching. Nice having a "second track" for the credits part. Personally, UE is no problem imho, but credit where credit is due.
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 16:43:41 by jco jco
Cool demo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 17:46:44 by maytz maytz
This was a mixed bag with tons and tons of very different scenes.

Dug the underwater scene tons and tons and the skull that gets ripped to pieces.
Seems that you have some nodes with concentrated loads and gravity.

Welcome back!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 18:29:41 by quisten quisten
forgot the thumb!
rulez added on the 2018-08-06 19:14:37 by anix anix
@anix: thanks!
added on the 2018-08-07 01:32:47 by mrdoob mrdoob
Demo is awesome but, unfortunatelly, I have to give piggy for using Unreal Engine. IMHO that engine and its counterparts should be officialy excluded from demoscene, unless prod is classified as wild.
added on the 2018-08-07 02:14:54 by jammer jammer
great stuff overall but end credits music is just magical.
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 05:34:52 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
Orange is back with glitch
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 07:28:39 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Good one. Actually a very good one. I just wish someone didn't get a stroke at this hand part :)
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 10:30:47 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
@anix: thanks for this!
added on the 2018-08-07 10:45:19 by gloom gloom
exactly what preacher said!
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 11:08:35 by ferris ferris
Brilliant! My personal favourite from the democompo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 14:50:48 by Corial Corial
Just wondering: This demo has 215 downloads from scene.org so far. How come only 215? Shouldn't a top 3 demo from Assembly get far more attention? What's happened? I recall back in 1998 - 2001, a issue of Hugi had more than 300 downloads on the first day after its release, and demos were downloaded far more often than diskmags.
added on the 2018-08-07 15:38:16 by Adok Adok
Most people are probably watching the youtube capture only.
added on the 2018-08-07 15:43:25 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Top demo from Orange!

Works nicely on my 1060 3GB, much smoother than the other two top demos from the same compo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 16:13:34 by noname noname
What hitchhikr said. Add the download count to the youtube count to get the true number of viewers. The 500 MB download is probably sending many people to the capture. Can't compare it to a 5 MB diskmag.
added on the 2018-08-07 16:22:39 by phoenix phoenix
what a fantastic comeback! it feels like the beloved oldschool way of orange and clearly 2018 at the same time - my favorite from the compo.

extra probs for the chord progressions in the main song and of course the whole credits song which has everything i adore about dune tunes.
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 19:28:39 by a-move a-move
Amazing and very fresh demo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 19:53:34 by Buckethead Buckethead
Really love both music parts, and the visual rendering blew me away at compo time - well done!
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 19:59:41 by mog mog
complex vectors, magic environment map, tricky gouraud
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 20:34:13 by y0bi y0bi
I like it. I don't care if it's done with UE. I had a nice long conversation with Iiro (der piipo) - like week before asm'18 - about art in demos and this pret-ty much delivers what Iiro had in his mind at the time. Hoping to see more in near future.
rulez added on the 2018-08-07 20:56:48 by Mazor Mazor
Really great

I love the cable flock
Love the visuals and the music.
But in some parts they don't work very well together.
It's the only demo which runs properly on my machine, so thanks for using UE!
rulez added on the 2018-08-08 10:40:44 by hfr hfr
Hey orange folks, if you have problems on non-NVidia cards, make sure you reach out to Epic, there are some friendly sceners working here who could help if they knew ;-)
rulez added on the 2018-08-08 17:41:05 by RCL RCL
I like the visuals but I think I like the music even more :-)
rulez added on the 2018-08-08 20:56:26 by vv8 vv8
Very very good :)
rulez added on the 2018-08-08 23:29:32 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
nicely done! love that last part with the glowing balls
rulez added on the 2018-08-09 03:05:36 by blackpawn blackpawn
Solid traditional demo style. And yeah the ending part music <3
rulez added on the 2018-08-09 08:59:35 by psonice psonice
Nice prod, but it's a bit lame not to mention UE in the nfo...
rulez added on the 2018-08-09 20:19:44 by rmd rmd
Absolutely great. Thanks for yet more productions.
rulezcdc added on the 2018-08-09 22:14:19 by d3pth d3pth
I found it a bit of a snooze to be honest. Sorry.
Wow, that was way better than I expected!
rulez added on the 2018-08-10 00:48:31 by gemini gemini
Solid!
rulez added on the 2018-08-10 16:58:22 by Frequent Frequent
Decent. :)
added on the 2018-08-10 23:37:30 by AntDude AntDude
Some moments are awesome
Welcome back jrange!
rulez added on the 2018-08-11 14:14:36 by Benderr Benderr
Nice clown :)
Very pretty scenes and a mostly cohesive design with nice twists. And a great soundtrack that underlines the atmosphere. I felt truly entertained.
rulez added on the 2018-08-11 14:49:12 by dojoe dojoe
<3
rulez added on the 2018-08-11 17:14:26 by emha76 emha76
this was refreshingly demoish and modern at the same time. mask tearing was really nice looking
rulez added on the 2018-08-11 18:00:59 by waffle waffle
My favorite from the compo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-11 21:14:20 by uncle-x uncle-x
I'm really sorry for my previous mistake...This prod should have won. Totally. I didn't watch all the demos from compo.
rulez added on the 2018-08-12 00:41:20 by Pepto Pepto
The only thing I dont like of this demo is that i dont know where the name of this demo refers to..

Keep making them like this so you wont be a dying star perhaps derPiipo and Dune?
rulez added on the 2018-08-12 10:22:21 by magic magic
from 5:15 on all of a sudden it becomes world class! chapeau!
rulez added on the 2018-08-13 16:30:52 by orange orange
very rewatchable demo with splendid soundtrack!
respekt! (haven´t been around when you were rocking the scene before, had some 10-years-scene-hiatus after amiga died!)
i really digged the end-part...the music there is double-splendid...and you took care of brilliant sync-work there aswell, i love when everything is perfect! :)
rulez added on the 2018-08-13 17:54:46 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
Would have been much more impressed if it was handcoded by hoplite.

Still, nice visuals and audio.
rulez added on the 2018-08-13 22:22:17 by spike spike
very nice effects. the overlays were a little too much like scene poetry for me and it seemed to lack the cohesiveness of the other compo winners. certainly worth the wait though!
rulez added on the 2018-08-13 22:42:07 by beefheid beefheid

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