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screenshot added by archee on 2018-09-09 00:27:54
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release date : september 2018
release party : Function 2018
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 47
  • is ok 15
  • sucks 7
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alltime top: #2812
added on the 2018-09-09 00:27:53 by archee archee

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this was very entertaining :)
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 00:29:08 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Creativity without limits.
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 00:30:56 by Digimind Digimind
What a ride! I'm not even mad about reusing content: it actually works in favor of this demo by playing with familiar concepts and characters and twisting them in fun and unexpected ways. My personal favorite from the compo, entertaining all the way through!
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 00:40:10 by moozooh moozooh
COOL 3D WORLD 2!
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 00:49:14 by okkie okkie
Fun with physics at Function.
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 02:14:53 by Leander Leander
Kinda got this "one trick pony" feeling from watching the production. It was way too similar to the previous production and overall length of demo was in a barely tolerable level.
added on the 2018-09-09 02:43:00 by waffle waffle
nice sequel! :)
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 03:59:25 by psenough psenough
Teamwork!
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 06:08:38 by cpdt cpdt
Funny!
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 09:33:42 by xTr1m xTr1m
Archee prods puts a big smile on my face, this one is so damn good. And nice Daft Punkish tune aswell.
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 12:41:50 by Zplex Zplex
I enjoyed this demo more than the majority of PC demos through the years.
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 12:49:45 by Optimus Optimus
Same crappy assets and textures for the nth time.
Same jaded rendering for the n+1th time.
Same cheap slapstick votegrab for the umpteenth time.
Plus it's just too long, and not funny.

Yes archee, we know you can code physics. We've known it for 10+ years. There just hasn't been _any_ progress since then. You could do SO amazing things if you wanted to and teamed up with a proper artist for a prod with actual substance.

I've given up on hoping to be impressed by anything new you do, and was surprised there wasn't a "click here to download the DLC for just 1$" half way through the demo.

Maybe you prove me wrong next year, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
sucks added on the 2018-09-09 12:50:54 by BoyC BoyC
Can't say I disagree with most of BoyC's points, but I can't bring myself to hate this either. The biggest issue for me was that this was more of the same from foo2 island, but less entertaining and waayyyy more long-winded. That makes this seem like a downgrade, so piggie it is.
added on the 2018-09-09 13:32:09 by break break
What BoyC said. This is just competent physics engine implementation without the demo, or anything else worthwhile.
sucks added on the 2018-09-09 13:35:27 by noby noby
re-re-re-recycling (still entertaining, but please make something different next time :D)
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 14:43:21 by wbc\\bz7 wbc\\bz7
well its your way of storytelling and has its funny moments, archee-style.
its ok i can live with poor texture and modeling with some physics on top as long as the content is entertaining.
in this case its just entertaining enough for a (weak) thumb because it really drags on for too long while missing several severe opportunities/ideas to shine.
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 14:57:55 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Exactly what BoyC said. Demoscene is digital art. This is just digotal.
sucks added on the 2018-09-09 15:23:45 by TrX TrX
"...just digital."
meh... I'm so bloody tired after the party...
added on the 2018-09-09 15:24:58 by TrX TrX
I felt entertained, so heres a thumb.

On the other hand, it’s just reusing 90% of the visuals with a new music (which I pretty much like), so please, do SOMEthing new next time, will you?
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 15:40:25 by Triace Triace
Entertaining trailer to some indie game, but where is a demo ?

1st place as crowdpleaser ? No. Sorry
sucks added on the 2018-09-09 15:43:33 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
Exactly what BoyC and Trauma Zero said!

@archee:
Don't get me wrong dude, you know I absolutely acknowledge and admire your coding skills, but both of us know this should have entered in the gamedev compo as it has 0 demoscene within, just an incredible game engine with cheap and lame graphics.

I remember some interesting tech demos / 4k intros (e.g. Photon Race 2) from you, which were not too much artistic either but pretty much contained at least some essential parts of the demoscene. Not like this one.

IMHO you could learn some very vital aspects from our incredible 256b coder line-up, b/c it seems despite the very limited size and capabilities they care more about the "demoart" than you did lately.

In the end:
The crowd liked it and you won the competition there's no doubt, and of course you should be proud of that, but explicitly stating that this is the future of the demoscene and and all demos should contain physics ( what you commented on Gargaj's entry ) is just waaaay too aggressive and shows a gratuitous level of self-confidence...
sucks added on the 2018-09-09 16:42:18 by Maugli Maugli
fun
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 17:26:12 by yzi yzi
This was my last gameplay style demo.
I have entirily new things in mind for next releases.
I thought, this was better than not releasing anything until new tech is not available.
I never said, demos need physics, but they need something moving or happening. Most of CG powered movies don't use physics, but there are actions.
At least show that your shadow maps are not baked.
added on the 2018-09-09 18:26:59 by archee archee
The end of an era..
Cant wait for your new explorations , tech and finally demos! Keep on rocking!
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 18:49:11 by magic magic
Very enjoyable and good feel!
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 19:42:48 by Buckethead Buckethead
yes this looks shitty and ugly, but I enjoyed the story.
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 19:45:51 by skarab skarab
clever and a little frustrating to watch
added on the 2018-09-09 21:00:43 by beefheid beefheid
So what it looked like previous releases? I'll say that is a good thing as long as it entertaining and fun to watch.
rulez added on the 2018-09-09 22:06:56 by numtek numtek
I liked Foo2 Island, but I really can't be entertained by the same thing twice if the second one doesn't improve on the first. Like was said, this feels more like a trailer for an indie physics puzzle game than a demo.
added on the 2018-09-10 00:01:21 by phoenix phoenix
What Waffle said. Still funny to watch though. :)
added on the 2018-09-10 09:24:39 by StingRay StingRay
I was reasonably entertained, although it was slightly long and wore out its welcome.
added on the 2018-09-10 09:54:21 by Preacher Preacher
This was like the Marvel Movies, reused, but still entertaining. Crowds fall for that and I personally fell for it too. We have heroes - two! - threshold, helper, enemies... Half of the elements Joseph Campbell's Hero's Jorney includes. (BTW George Lucas and many others based their stuff on this journey) Those wheeled bastards have character (at least it seems like that). Gave a new color for the compo.

I admired BoyC for the technology earlier, but his comment here is generalizing, personal and negative. Maybe he should incorporate some story next time?

This compo has shown:
tech or story?
STORRRYYYYYY
FFFUUUUUNNN
AAAHHH :D

PS: all right, this fker is seriously missing post render effects, fog of view and has the most basic shaders. It misses a good graphic designer, but who cares, if it has...
rulez added on the 2018-09-10 10:13:59 by reid77 reid77
I felt entertained so it's good, but of course also good that you want to move on from now !
rulez added on the 2018-09-10 10:26:22 by Kuemmel Kuemmel
solid, even funny, but too long in the end (especially as we have seen it before)

i'll thumb it up under the premise that your next prod is not again recycling the same scenes, content and humor please.

you sure have the skills to do amazing stuff.
rulez added on the 2018-09-10 10:54:25 by gopher gopher
what Preacher said.
I prefered it to foo2 island: the trucks are more suited for this visual-style imho, and the punchy music made me in a good mood :)
added on the 2018-09-10 14:15:56 by wullon wullon
Nice and funny!
rulez added on the 2018-09-10 17:42:05 by tifeco tifeco
I can understand the criticism, but in the end I have to give props for a funny, entertaining demo.
rulez added on the 2018-09-10 21:06:50 by Alpha C Alpha C
I love how the same guys that are bashing this prod are mostly known from boring planet flyby's and boring "supposed to be dramatic" static scenes with slow camera movement or over-stylized abstract non-sense.
Everyone has his style and I myself enjoyed this demo fully. The rendering is just right for the content. The font fits perfectly. More of this, please!
rulez added on the 2018-09-10 23:18:55 by tomkh tomkh
Quote:
I love how the same guys that are bashing this prod are mostly known from boring planet flyby's and boring "supposed to be dramatic" static scenes with slow camera movement or over-stylized abstract non-sense.

Why do you love that? Like, are you implying there's something supposedly hypocritical or logically inconsistent about this?
added on the 2018-09-10 23:26:50 by noby noby
Haterz gonna hate.
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 00:08:26 by jimmi jimmi
this one is actually a lot more fun to watch than the previous one in terms of clever actions
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 00:49:45 by Pablo Escrollbar Pablo Escrollbar
I laughed at the previous one, laughed a bit a this one too, until I realised what category this was in. Not worth a thumb down though. Solid piggie with a hope that next year there will be more spinning cubes and less drunk lizards/trucks :-)
added on the 2018-09-11 01:12:56 by vv8 vv8
I laughed at the previous one, laughed a bit a this one too, until I realised what category this was in. Not worth a thumb down though. Solid piggie with a hope that next year there will be more spinning cubes and less drunk lizards/trucks :-)
added on the 2018-09-11 01:12:56 by vv8 vv8
ugly.
sucks added on the 2018-09-11 01:32:52 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
time to move on
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 08:52:44 by Sir Sir
noby: as much as I like prods with a lot of effort on artistic side, I also like goofy stuff with different focus. It's refreshing. Also the plot improved from the previous one - what's not to like about those silly trucks?;P As for the demo or not - who cares. I am kind of bored with one true and only demo formula.
added on the 2018-09-11 09:05:02 by tomkh tomkh
I had coffee out the nose a few times watching this one. The physics is probably one of a kind on the demo scene. Not sure if there are any other engines doing this without using a public/commercial library (destroying the demoscene in the process)?

I believed it may be some AI based controls at first (in these magic AI days anything is possible). The goal is for you two sleds to get on the bus, now figure out how to do that on your own by any means possible.
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 09:10:46 by rloaderro rloaderro
What BoyC, noby, TrX and others said is technically true, but somehow I was entertained for 6 and a half minutes, and I'm usually the person to complain about editing room floor in comments for demos half this length.

Would like to second Triace instead.
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 09:12:53 by Trilkk Trilkk
More of the same, and this was such a blatant re-use of previous content that it just feels like a waste of effort. But at least there's some comedy that's usually not found in demoscene productions, so piggy.
added on the 2018-09-11 09:15:49 by visy visy
yep, next time change the textures at least ;)
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 09:40:32 by rascy rascy
I found this extremely entertaining and (surprise!) fresh. Even though it reuses 90% of the foundation and assets from foo island, it still successfully delivers several thing which I feel are severely underrepresented in demoscene:
- believable physics that is physiologically very satisfying to watch
- engaging action
- random ridiculous crap (e.g. Jesus Christ Motocross, or most of Tekotuotanto stuff)

Archee, please don't stop!

On a meta-note, I have trouble understanding the points which thumb-downers are trying to make. Especially given the fact that they come from people whom and who's opinion I respect a lot.
For me, one of the most important parts of demoscene is making fun (even better if also amazing and unexpected) things with the code you yourself wrote. In this sense this demo is more "demoscene", than e.g. doing great design using commercial engines.
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 10:38:09 by provod provod
Someone could definitely train a deep learning model to move trucks or whatever animal. The model training itself is long and arduous, but model itself can be small, so it can be used in demos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc
zombie truck apocalypse yeah
added on the 2018-09-11 11:50:44 by reid77 reid77
Had fun watching it and didn't mind the recycling thanks to the "narrative"
rulez added on the 2018-09-11 15:55:36 by keops keops
Fails to start and complains about a missing "api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll". Any idea what that might be?
added on the 2018-09-12 00:32:55 by Sdw Sdw
thumb
rulez added on the 2018-09-12 01:31:15 by wullon wullon
Cool engine!
rulez added on the 2018-09-12 11:23:52 by BiTL BiTL
Nice and fun ! And my 19 months son likes it (it is not his favorite demo though ^^)..But you should have made two different "machines" ! For example one blue and the other one red or something like that
rulez added on the 2018-09-12 13:40:01 by Shantee Shantee
This was really good. Quite an improvement from your release of last year, with a much more complex script. If it was an actual gameplay, though, the game would have been a bit too hard, wouldn't it? :D
rulez added on the 2018-09-13 11:05:12 by Dali Dali
Was it for real? Seriously, guys, were you blind or what?
sucks added on the 2018-09-13 12:35:11 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Love is blind and I love this!
rulez added on the 2018-09-13 21:33:10 by ham ham
Well done!
rulez added on the 2018-09-13 22:29:03 by Frequent Frequent
Fun and creative.
rulez added on the 2018-09-15 02:28:52 by Zhent Zhent
Quote:
Quote:
I love how the same guys that are bashing this prod are mostly known from boring planet flyby's and boring "supposed to be dramatic" static scenes with slow camera movement or over-stylized abstract non-sense.

Why do you love that? Like, are you implying there's something supposedly hypocritical or logically inconsistent about this?
I don't think it's inconsistent; only if there was a cases where people did the reverse and just singled out archee.

To be honest, while it seems like the demo was fairly well done, I find it rather boring. The music is good, but it just sort of invoked an "Is it over yet?" feeling to me.
Quote:
I found this extremely entertaining and (surprise!) fresh. Even though it reuses 90% of the foundation and assets from foo island, it still successfully delivers several thing which I feel are severely underrepresented in demoscene:
- believable physics that is physiologically very satisfying to watch
- engaging action
- random ridiculous crap (e.g. Jesus Christ Motocross, or most of Tekotuotanto stuff)

Archee, please don't stop!

On a meta-note, I have trouble understanding the points which thumb-downers are trying to make. Especially given the fact that they come from people whom and who's opinion I respect a lot.
For me, one of the most important parts of demoscene is making fun (even better if also amazing and unexpected) things with the code you yourself wrote. In this sense this demo is more "demoscene", than e.g. doing great design using commercial engines.
I think demoscene is whatever people want it to be. If you decided to do a wild prod involving filming yourself doing extreme ironing (this is a thing!) for the laughs, sure, whatever.

In general I think the scene seems to be about doing what you think is interesting, and perhaps exciting too, in connection with others. Sharing your desire to be creative, whatever forms that takes.

"There's no accounting for taste." applies here. What's "demoscene" enough will vary by person, or by quantity perhaps. (If everyone produced extreme ironing videos and nothing else, then I'm sure it'd get decried as unscene.) I don't particularly care if someone uses a commercial engine because maybe the results are really enjoyable. In the case of Poo-Brain, they started out with Unity and used that introduction to push themselves to do some really good 64k productions.

For a group that seems to want to be quite inclusive to keep itself going, marking things like this or that as more scene or not seems to be rather exclusive.
Entertaining cooperation following safety regulations.
rulez added on the 2018-09-15 09:54:33 by Emod Emod
With some effort put into editing (it's now too long) and cameras (not everything needs to be a single take) this would make a classic demo. Think Field Trip.

Anyway that frog was funny and I like how the shadows make everything look so solid and tactile.
rulez added on the 2018-09-15 11:06:43 by cce cce
I am this close to thumb this down.
Upon launch, the demo stayed on the "Loading..." screen, on top of all other windows, blaring music and refusing to acknowledge Alt+F4. Even after the music finished, the demo stayed running, eating 100% of one CPU code and still refusing to quit. In the end I had to reboot the computer. I'm really pissed.

Windows 10 64bits, NVidia GTX 1060. You should fix this, it's just sloppy.
added on the 2018-09-15 11:47:33 by Zavie Zavie
Brilliant sequel :D
rulez added on the 2018-09-17 23:03:20 by Ysplicit Ysplicit
Szerintem nagyon aranyos/vicces. Én imádtam
rulez added on the 2018-09-19 10:39:05 by netro netro
Great!
rulez added on the 2018-09-21 08:57:32 by Mystra Mystra
Nice tune.
added on the 2018-09-22 04:05:40 by AntDude AntDude
it was really fun to watch, totally took my attention! :)
rulez added on the 2018-09-24 19:38:47 by natalia natalia
I love when demos tell amusing stories :)
rulez added on the 2018-09-30 01:14:25 by MsK` MsK`
It's not bad, but it also feels a lot like I'm watching someone play Garry's Mod. It's somewhat entertaining, but not at all what I'm looking for in a demo.
added on the 2018-10-08 00:54:07 by stijn stijn
Original and Fun.
rulez added on the 2018-10-28 16:10:27 by Black Dragon Black Dragon
I got bored very quickly

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