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We are by Haujobb
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screenshot added by tomaes on 2002-12-15 16:59:51
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release date : december 2002
release party : state of the art 2002
compo : pc demo
ranked : 7th
  • rulez 55
  • is ok 32
  • sucks 6
popularity : 0%
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alltime top: #2018
added on the 2002-12-15 16:59:51 by tomaes tomaes

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I really can't stand the music in this one. It's so incoherent... so little melody... and all these annoying 'effects' over it all the time.
Horrible.
Shame, some of the best Haujobb demos have excellent soundtracks, and it fits the style well.

The rest of the demo is standard Visualice-style. Nice 'organic' objects and all... But nothing special, nothing we haven't seen before.
This one is definitely not of the same quality as Liquid... Wen?
added on the 2002-12-15 17:14:25 by Scali Scali
A few cool visuals, but it all goes to waste due to the terrible soundtrack (dare not call that "music") and ugly, repetitive design.

A shame, really.
sucks added on the 2002-12-15 17:19:02 by Jare Jare
best music in a haujobb demo EVER !
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 17:23:11 by dipswitch dipswitch
yawn. good music though.
My first impression was something like: 'uh, channel nr. 5 vs. we took the green pill'. Definitely not as good as liquid wen or elements.
added on the 2002-12-15 17:26:35 by tomaes tomaes
Boring as hell and incoherent.
sucks added on the 2002-12-15 17:28:05 by Wain Wain
doesnt run...
some pretty scenes, but nothing new.
another yawn.
added on the 2002-12-15 17:43:15 by cole cole
its ok.good music.
lil boring tho...
added on the 2002-12-15 17:46:24 by blz blz
ok it runs in windowed :)

has some ugly-ass stuff, and some cool stuff, the music really rules, so a thumbs up
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 17:50:14 by ileaardbei ileaardbei
yay, music was not that bad. i liked the synching ideas here.
added on the 2002-12-15 17:52:26 by robotriot robotriot
So. What we are dealing with : classical haujobb demonstration, ambient atmosphere, well designed. But where is ectasy?
added on the 2002-12-15 18:38:32 by daddyvx daddyvx
I think this is actually better than liquid. Graphics are excellent (as usual), music kicked ass and it had nice syncs.
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 18:49:26 by dairos dairos
Music okay, synch okay, demo/effects/graphics the usual hjb output.
added on the 2002-12-15 19:10:47 by Shifter Shifter
Hmm, usually Haujobb demos work just fine on my box but this one produces a crash both in windowed and fullscreen mode.
added on the 2002-12-15 19:11:45 by DiamonDie DiamonDie
The <b>AMAZING</b> soundtrack combined with wicked syncing and nice gfx make this the most enjoyable haujobbdemo ever!
(Allthough Im getting a bit tired of the recycling of old design in some hjb-releases :)
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 19:13:35 by slumgud slumgud
I liked it :-)

Good soundtrack. awesome visuals.. would have been kicking with some more innovative code...
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 19:16:47 by nystep nystep
music & gfx changed (almost), but that's always the same demo...
sucks added on the 2002-12-15 19:20:32 by spengler spengler
i don't really like this for certain reasons but it still deserves a thumb up
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 19:22:07 by raymon raymon
a bit senseless and lacking of coherence between the scenes. the sync is very weird.

still, i love the music and the graphics are once again remarkable.
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 19:36:01 by florent florent
I've always loved Haujobb
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 20:00:34 by XteNt XteNt
The usual.
added on the 2002-12-15 20:15:23 by Gargaj Gargaj
The usual thumb.
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 20:16:12 by Gargaj Gargaj
the usual.
added on the 2002-12-15 20:23:05 by Optimus Optimus
The usual thumb.
sucks added on the 2002-12-15 20:23:21 by Optimus Optimus
uhm, looks like all other haujobb stuff, didnt u promiss to stop doin demos? =)
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 20:33:06 by dubmood dubmood
well it was nice yes. The music itself is cool but it does not fit the demo. the demo design looks more like a winamp visualization plug in , than demo. ~_° ?
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 20:44:01 by elend elend
Hmm... I don't know what to say about this.

I've thumbed up almost every Visualice-styled Haujobb demo, but maybe not this time. Many of the individual visual elements are quite nice, in fact even more polished than previous efforts. But the demo just doesn't seem right in some way. I can't really describe why.

I suppose in some aspect other Haujobb/Visualice demos feel like a 'trip' from point A to point B. This thing just kinda stands still in the middle of nowhere.
Nice graphs but the demo is purely haujobb : a bunch of scenes where faces, triangles and alpha faces move, with no particula effect... boring, so.
added on the 2002-12-15 21:21:54 by ukuk ukuk
hmm i like this demo. The Music is cool since i like such stuff a lot, although some people won't like it for sure...
rulez added on the 2002-12-15 21:27:06 by Kami68k Kami68k
ok stuff but perhaps a bit boring.
added on the 2002-12-15 21:34:07 by uncle-x uncle-x
not quite as memorable as liquid-wen, but saved by a few newish ideas.. and i like the soundtrack a lot with the granulated breakbeat.. the text was intriguing enough and was presented well.. i would've liked more of the antialiased pseudo-wireframed organic 3d blobby things (??) as it added some fresh interest to an old hjb standyby..
rulez added on the 2002-12-16 01:38:59 by dyscotopia dyscotopia
oh, and the only recently released demo that gets a good framerate on my "obsolete" amd1.6ghz/256mb/geforce2 ;)
Lots of eyecandy graphics but I think some of the more interesting effect should have been shown longer. But then again you really are making moves to quick to see :>
rulez added on the 2002-12-16 01:44:37 by obi1 obi1
great graphics/textures and scripting, but the soundtrack doesn't do anything for me, and i think i spotted some already used 3d-objects. this is perhaps the first haujobb-demo i didn't immediately love. might grow in me though.. (oh, and fast code)
added on the 2002-12-16 03:18:07 by gloom gloom
Ok.. seemingly on some Radeon cards this demo might crash or play really wrong. You can try running it in windowed mode (might help or then not), wait for a possible final release or go watch it with your friend who has a GeForce.

Hmm... anyways I think I'll make an exception and comment on an own group prod now.

As Thom said already this is quite polished demo but every piece don't still fit together. Now after watching "We Are" for quite many times I think it's not about anything itself would be bad quality (on the contrary most of the gfx are great) but it's more about missing a connection between parts. I also personally like the soundtrack by Xhale but it doesn't perhaps fit that well in this demo.

As for the repeatitive progression, this was also ment to be a sequel to We Took The Greenpill.

On the good side, I like the synchs alot and on a right state of mind this kind of flashy and quick changes gets easily hypnotizing.
added on the 2002-12-16 10:26:17 by melw melw
nice music, but the visuals and sync are sub-par even for yahd (yet another haujobb demo) style.
added on the 2002-12-16 11:17:31 by shiva shiva
yea it does rule in fact... watching it on the big screens at the sota was interesting, too bad there were a little buzz in the background which killed a bit the supa soundtrack!!!!!

coz YEA this soundtrack is good, who care about melodies in demos? the music is interesting, really well done and the syncs on it are good.

tho i'm sure many people won't like it, criticizing the fact it's boring, repetitive blablablablabla. that's the real way to make demos maybe? don't care about the scene, make your stuffs, some will like, some won't, that's all about personal matter for sure
rulez added on the 2002-12-16 12:45:09 by __ __
The jumpy animations and colorful graphics didn't work well with Xhale's usual (but nice) spooky track
added on the 2002-12-16 13:04:22 by cats cats
it exist a word for this kind of demo : haujobbish
this one is haujobbish and not memorable.
Hauhobbish, true.
Sorry, no thumb this time...
added on the 2002-12-16 15:20:30 by pan pan
cOol, interesting and funny ideas, has sincronism, nice colors, meshes, and overall feeling, I like it
rulez added on the 2002-12-16 19:31:50 by JaK JaK
Ok, so... is haujobb back?
Well, great demo, as all haujobb ones.
rulez added on the 2002-12-16 19:43:41 by byos byos
You say it's incoherent and boring, but i stll wish i could do a demo like the ones Timo does...
rulez added on the 2002-12-16 23:21:08 by dixan dixan
Cool, before I saw this demo I thought that the sentence "This is even more the same than everything else" was illogical.
added on the 2002-12-17 00:09:20 by kb_ kb_
very cool indeed
rulez added on the 2002-12-17 00:11:24 by svok svok
I actually really liked this one because it's DIFFERENT from Haujobb's usual schtick. The sync was amazing; a weird trippy jazz song with hypnotic pulses timed to the visuals. It's a departure from the norm; yes there are floating transparent organic structures and nice 2-D art, but it's not a smooth and buttery thing, it's more of a stuttering mess that becomes entrancing. Kudos!
rulez added on the 2002-12-17 00:49:19 by Twoflower Twoflower
Typical high quality visualice artwork with typical abstract 3d models, sync'ed very nicely with a rather spooky (but very interesting) tune. However there is something missing from this demo, and I'm afraid that what's missing is a 'pulse' :-/
added on the 2002-12-17 02:40:40 by moT moT
as always
rulez added on the 2002-12-17 14:33:11 by neurox neurox

kb got it rite!
it is definately visualice's handwriting but then, i can second twoflower's opinion more than anything else's.

it is *VERY* different in mood than any other HJB demo, it also got quite some new things (oh well, forget the screenshot, its not representing demo that well). sync kicked some butt as well, maybe even a bit too much of it since i think this demo should've been a little more calm not flashing scenes like there's no tomorrow. muzik was good as well if you are the guy to accept more than one style.

anyway, perhaps my fav demo from visualice!

rulez added on the 2002-12-17 16:31:16 by raver raver
not so bad...
...but not so good

- see and make you own opinion -
added on the 2002-12-19 00:15:21 by sokoban sokoban
Contrary to the first post, i think the music rules. As well as the entire demo.
rulez added on the 2002-12-19 01:10:28 by rayro rayro
Xhale track is great. Visualice gfx are great. Atmosphere is great.

Do i like HJB ? YES !
rulez added on the 2002-12-19 14:33:15 by kohai kohai
won't run on my recently installed det.xp.41.09..
just a med-quality hjb demo.
added on the 2002-12-19 14:43:44 by bhead bhead
must be a conflict between the detonators and XP.. i'm using 41.09 on 98 and can view this with no problems..
rulez added on the 2002-12-19 19:09:50 by psenough psenough
The same haujobb clean (too clean) work. Nothing change, no new concept, no new style. Hey ! Haujobb ! Can't you use your imagination and find something new ?
sucks added on the 2002-12-19 20:06:46 by Torone Torone
thumb for the track. the demo is so-so
rulez added on the 2002-12-19 20:10:20 by NoahR NoahR
as this demo started i thought "okay, a visualice demo again"... the demo got better the longer i watched it. nice effects, good sync & a kickass soundtrack - defenetly a really good hjb production.

i cant understand why ppl keep saying "visualice here, visualice there". okay, due to their most famous productions, which all have "visualice-style-objects"... but dont forget about the other ppl which are involved into such productions! pay credits to them! :-)

and don´t blame hjb for doing different stuff! thats inovation! some people here dont know what they want: if haujobb does a "visualice-style" demo, they complain about it and say "blabla, the usual style" and if they´re doing something different, people start complaining about "ooh! that does not fit hjb!" so what do you want?....

well, some people here always post crap about all the good releases, which can be found here on pouet. kinda strange, that most of them NEVER visit a scene-party or never released something before. those people simply SUCK.

my 2 cents
rulez added on the 2002-12-19 22:19:38 by sobec sobec
i think a script would be in place for haujobb + razor1911 wich automatically thumbs down, yes, i do
sucks added on the 2002-12-19 22:20:57 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
30.82 detonators didn't help this one start either.. gotta love nvidia driver team..
added on the 2002-12-19 22:49:30 by bhead bhead
this prod does not rule compared with other
hjb-prods like elements or liquid-wen, but's
much better than some other prods released
at sota02 and many other demos i've seen before! haujobb, you are very good...
rulez added on the 2002-12-19 23:19:21 by reaktor2k reaktor2k
this is definitely not a bad demo. i actually like the soundtrack, and the visuals. visualice's a freakin genius, no debate about that.

but i have to second the people who said that something's missing this time. there's no kick. no "wow". more like "haven't i seen those objects somewhere? they used to be silver rather than chrome".

haujobb can deliver much more than that! and i hope they'll do it again next year.
added on the 2002-12-20 00:46:01 by jazzman jazzman
Very good another HJB demo i think it was a little underrated (a place about 3 -4 will suit for this demo better) ... a new looks to a making a hjb demo... graphic is a bit weird and "no-simple object" and music i also weird, but this thing together makes a very good feelings from this prod...still i thumbin up
rulez added on the 2002-12-20 19:41:40 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
Not as good as Liquid Wen, but overall nice.
rulez added on the 2002-12-21 18:50:49 by shash shash
please notice that it does not make any sense to compare this to "Liquid Wen".
Liquid Wen is pop,
while this is not,
and, such, results in a higher level of mass-disfavourment.
added on the 2002-12-21 23:20:32 by hfr hfr
i agree with hellfire. compared to liquid wen this is not a pop demo (mainly because of the sound).
still i wish this would have had some more of the green pill spirit which was somehow missing here.
moreover in the end it crashes my machine everytime so no thumb this time.
added on the 2002-12-22 16:58:19 by fiver2^fB fiver2^fB
the only way it can be compared to liquid wen is that it looks the same and is as poorly made
added on the 2002-12-23 12:26:40 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
the only way it can be compared to liquid wen is that it looks the same and is as poorly made
added on the 2002-12-23 12:26:56 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
haujobb doesnt deserve visualice, this is abuse.
added on the 2002-12-25 15:45:07 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
A_Lee_N : pouet doesnt deserve you, and nobody is saying a word about that, so...lol
added on the 2003-01-04 23:39:40 by JaK JaK
you comment guys just freakin' me out...
rulez added on the 2003-01-05 00:04:30 by jazz jazz
.. kind of stupid that I was credited for this demo, since I've done so little for that "engine".. and I didn't take part in the democreation like I did for liquid..wen or elements or so..

I must truly second A_Lee_N since nobody deserves visualice. I'm very glad that he is around.

fiver2, I'm very happy to hear that missing "greenpill feeling" thing.. :)

and jazz, you're totally right. :) feel free to freak out.
added on the 2003-01-05 09:10:58 by droid droid
cool sync.
cool music.
cool design.
However, there is no new thing.
added on the 2003-01-05 09:42:31 by got got
runs perfectly for me .. so fricking smoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth

could be a little shorter otherwise PERFECT
rulez added on the 2003-01-17 16:51:19 by Zzed Zzed
i think many people were disappointed by the fact that this doesn't look or feel like "your usual haujobb demo". the scenes and choice of colors are definitely a new direction, and so is the design (gotta love the "poetry" everywhere :). besides, it feels rather polished.

cons: rather uninspired music and sync at times. still a rulez.
rulez added on the 2003-01-21 20:29:47 by ryg ryg
ok
rulez added on the 2003-01-23 19:49:27 by oldaccount oldaccount
old good Haujobb.
trippy music (yes!). demo too.
rulez added on the 2003-02-27 23:21:00 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
Haujobb did a great job in this demo....

...cool sound, great syncing and very cool gfx...

rulez added on the 2004-10-19 16:21:17 by wickedz wickedz
Yap. You are
rulez added on the 2004-10-19 16:42:27 by Vulture Vulture
very cool stuff, i especially like the way everything is cut together!
rulez added on the 2005-08-23 12:07:34 by EarlGrey EarlGrey
nice demo.
rulez added on the 2006-08-24 20:31:41 by spike spike
my pig.
OK one, but nothing to keep in mind
added on the 2006-09-09 19:21:16 by T$ T$
Small thumb.
rulez added on the 2006-09-10 02:44:51 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
ok
rulez added on the 2006-10-30 21:57:36 by robpaine robpaine
Hipnotic
rulez added on the 2006-10-31 22:33:31 by texel texel
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added on the 2007-02-19 03:45:57 by eye eye
nice blending ;)
relaxing atmosphere
rulez added on the 2007-07-20 11:16:45 by wie8 wie8
rulez added on the 2008-04-21 17:37:13 by Drunken_Poet Drunken_Poet
Oh, from the music I thought the Youtube clip was mangled! Thumb for making me feel the urge to run the real demo.

Agree that the music was repetitious, but it created a mood. My ear couldn't accept the out of sync beats tho. (Strange?)

Upnostril action, some chromed mooseantlers, some nice styling and graphics.
rulez added on the 2009-12-16 01:01:58 by Photon Photon
One of the best haujobb's releases.
rulez added on the 2009-12-18 12:45:24 by untel untel
absolutely cool!
rulez added on the 2009-12-18 14:48:05 by elfh elfh
Ok. A bit repetitive and bland effect-wise.
added on the 2009-12-18 14:48:47 by raer raer
ee
rulez added on the 2009-12-18 14:53:40 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
yo
rulez added on the 2010-05-04 04:32:04 by kyv kyv
Laidback
rulez added on the 2011-12-17 13:51:46 by Frequent Frequent
Must have missed this one. Very smooth, wholesome music and design/gfx. Overstays it's welcome slightly.. but it's still great
rulez added on the 2014-12-03 12:40:00 by evilpaul evilpaul
I've seen better, but great soundtrack at least
rulez added on the 2014-12-11 21:14:02 by noby noby
some nice parts
so turn-of-the-millenia it hurts. but in a pleasant way.
rulez added on the 2017-04-25 18:44:06 by nagz nagz
the visuals are great
rulez added on the 2017-04-25 19:26:09 by EviL EviL

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