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Realtime Radiosity 2 by Broncs [web]
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release date : august 2000
release party : Fiasko 2000
compo : combined demo
ranked : 3rd
  • rulez 19
  • is ok 26
  • sucks 16
popularity : 1%
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  • cdcs 1
alltime top: #9561
added on the 2000-11-24 21:48:27 by redox redox

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wooooOWW! realtime radiosity! rules! this demo have great ideas too! Broncs is a unknown group but the make a great demos!
added on the 2000-11-25 16:06:31 by mrdoob mrdoob
Awesome shit! Get it!
added on the 2000-11-25 17:34:33 by drevil drevil
no fake, just try
added on the 2000-12-15 10:05:53 by twinsen twinsen
Finally,. I can see how the realtime radiosity looks!

Although why with polygons and not geometric primitives like in raytracing demos? (E.g. pure perfect spheres, culinders, e.t.c..)

It looks uglier than raytracing,. but I like the soft shadows.. (And there must be perhaps some other cool things in this new radiosity thing I haven't noticed..)

Funny were also the silly antialiased 2d lines which morphed and had nummers on them!
added on the 2001-03-01 16:31:13 by Optimus Optimus
nothing much to say excepted that is a technically interesting demo...
added on the 2001-03-21 17:34:32 by flure flure
In Czech - Parada, kluci jedni usati, jen tak dal.
In English - Very good stuff, music is very interesting track
this definitely is barbarz-art.
it's time for some radical action!
added on the 2001-04-19 12:14:47 by stil stil
interesting prod, not the best use of radiosity
added on the 2001-05-10 13:10:28 by neurox neurox
very good radiosity in real time!
music is good with the whole design
the 3d scenes are too colored in front of the digitized pictures
a good prod with lot of ideas and a political message against capitalism i think
rulez added on the 2001-07-16 13:19:39 by Zone (leZone) Zone (leZone)
'Hope I will never have to deal with those GANGSTERS :)
rulez added on the 2001-07-28 17:37:57 by fra fra
music rules, and the look of the radiosity scenes is funny
rulez added on the 2001-08-05 18:36:35 by robotriot robotriot
Shall we stop to call blurred gouraud "radiosity"? btw: what´s that "no mfx" written near the logo? :D
sucks added on the 2001-08-28 22:24:05 by dixan dixan
ok. stop. this may be radiosity.

you know, radiosity is radiosity and raytracing is raytracing. and the former is traditionally applied on gouraud polygons.

hmm. so there appears to be soft shadows but i haven't spotted any sure evidence of complex diffuse interaction or colour bleeding. reason for other may lie in resolution and for another that the lighting is probably calculated monochromatically.

either those, or that the algorithm is carried only one level deep or it's faked with some other shadow-algos. (but what would be the point, those are not that simple either)
added on the 2001-08-29 00:05:23 by 216 216
Yes, well...here's me thinking that demos were all about trying to get the ultimate out of your machine, or a least *faking* it. "7800 phong polys" and "262144 colors" spring to mind =)

Fake or not, looks okay.
added on the 2001-08-29 01:15:43 by Shifter Shifter
ok, I am half convinced (tho I want to see some color emission, shadows are not enough). But what about the "no mfx"? :D
added on the 2001-08-29 11:13:20 by dixan dixan
well, "no mfx" probably means that they are no mfx. or something. bleh. 8]
rulez added on the 2001-08-29 12:15:01 by bhead bhead
Its stupid to name it "REALTIME radiosity 2" when it was more like "SLIDESHOW BLURED 2" :)
sucks added on the 2001-08-29 13:35:35 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
rr2 is realtime monochromatic monte-carlo radiosity powered by hi-optimized ray-shooting over BSP-trees with discontinuity mashing, clusters and gouraud interpolation... based on results from reserach in dee's diploma thesis. you see the most complex coda in demoscene production ever... dee is radiosity guru.

"no mfx" means no poor tgr3 radiosity... :-)

nobody'll beet az!
rulez added on the 2001-09-15 11:25:52 by redox redox
how impressive! until this, the most complex coda I've seen in a demoscene production was a timelapse polytronic las-vegas final gathering powered by battery-energized laser-blasting elves over LAX-woods with nonsingularity smashing lacklusters and reagan extrapolation.
added on the 2001-09-15 12:16:02 by saffron saffron
Very impressive... Where's the radiosity, anyway? It's hidden by those shitty dancing triangles? O:-)
added on the 2001-09-15 13:17:53 by spite spite
world isn´t ready for this huge inovative progress in global illumination research,
only next generations will understand! :-)))

rr2: beetL in yaR head!
added on the 2001-09-17 08:04:49 by redox redox
nah.
sucks added on the 2001-09-19 20:07:05 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
just that t3 had no radiosity=) even the infofile says so. can't people read or what?-)
added on the 2001-09-19 21:52:55 by 216 216
sorry, i dont like it. Just another demo.... Poor music, some old photos and a dull 3d with "radiosity"... not enough to remember it.
sucks added on the 2001-10-02 05:54:09 by yakare yakare
Dixie! "no MFX" like "Parental Advisory" cos MFX are my fave porn stars ! :D
added on the 2001-10-02 11:39:10 by rIO rIO
Rio: Were pornstars already? Did I make such a lasting impression on you a year ago=D
added on the 2001-10-02 12:08:28 by uncle-x uncle-x
ok, guyz! let's make better looking realtime "radiosity" with soft shadows and diffusion reflections... hu!

rr2 iz only kick off for another coderz. They colud make it much more beter!

broncs loves these chat ego battles! :-))
added on the 2001-10-03 14:01:50 by redox redox
FAKE!
The first was a mpeg video.
The second is precomputed. All scenes are cyclic.
If you want to prove that is a true real time radiosity, execute your algorithm on a long acyclic scene that cannot been precomputed, or on a random scene.

RR3 ?
sucks added on the 2001-11-01 03:01:26 by arthy arthy
I kind of liked this prod...

There's certainly no indications of mpeg anywhere... nor of radiosity ;) It looks like a raytracer that feeds a gouraud rasterizer. I certainly don't see any bleeding, with characterizes a radiosity illumination (and what makes look so good).

However, the prod is kind of nice
added on the 2001-11-01 03:44:28 by mac mac
Is this a prod from Broncs? Lol! I had witnessed their attitude with fake 256byte intros lately!!! And now I come back on that,.. so they are just kidding by saaying it's radiosity?? (Damn,. how radiosity would really look like?)

added on the 2001-11-01 09:27:54 by Optimus Optimus
http://broncs.scene.cz/prodz/rr.rar is their first demo on "realtime radiosity".
In rr.dat at offset 50982 start the mpeg file.
I myself work on realtime radiosity...
"No fake"...

added on the 2001-11-01 13:25:35 by arthy arthy
http://broncs.scene.cz/prodz/rr.rar is their first demo on "realtime radiosity".
In rr.dat at offset 50982 start the mpeg file.
I myself work on realtime radiosity...
"No fake"...

added on the 2001-11-01 13:33:42 by arthy arthy
It was a good trial.
If this is a "real-time
radiosity", I have not seen seldom such demo until now.
anyway, Very was impressive.:)
added on the 2001-11-01 15:06:30 by got got
Jesus H. Christ. It seems that all you need is a buzzword like 'radiosity' (which people don't even seem to understand) and suddenly it's 'awesome shit'.
sucks added on the 2001-11-01 16:34:33 by sagacity sagacity
Love the visuals, except radiosity scenes that exceeds and lacks of the cool overall design of the demo imho
rulez added on the 2001-11-01 21:36:48 by Zafio Zafio
these guys can't code :)
sucks added on the 2001-11-02 00:25:39 by superplek superplek
<url=http://blueli.felk.cvut.cz/~sykorad/rr.zip>hi-akademik link!</url>
added on the 2001-11-19 15:18:22 by redox redox
Maybe not real realtime radiosity but close one.Nice colors, warm atmosphere. Maybe it is too early for a realtime implementation of this technique, but the emulated color bleeding looks nice!!
added on the 2001-12-11 11:59:43 by zafos zafos
the quality of the gfx is infinitesimally better than the political shit. delete it.
sucks added on the 2002-02-13 17:45:13 by Zzed Zzed
are our families destroyed by feminism ? i really can't say that of mine.
added on the 2002-03-27 15:24:12 by rac rac
not my kind of demo. sorry.
sucks added on the 2002-10-07 01:08:12 by psenough psenough
I enjoyed this one. Neat design/colors for the 2D parts
rulez added on the 2002-10-07 02:40:09 by cats cats
yeah aha
rulez added on the 2002-10-22 15:23:44 by dubmood dubmood
New win32 executable is also available here...
added on the 2002-12-18 21:33:57 by redox redox
Accelerated realtime radiosity? No prob! Try this...
added on the 2002-12-18 21:39:44 by redox redox
hm.
rulez added on the 2002-12-18 22:36:26 by Gargaj Gargaj
Odd one. But certainly not uninteresting at all.
added on the 2002-12-18 23:04:17 by tomaes tomaes
the way i see it, the only really bad thing about this demo is its name. calling it after the effect reduces it unnecessarily. i actually dig the design of the other parts, especially the retro pics. music is cool too. i doubt there is any real radiosity in there anyway... it's just colored light sources and soft shadows - but well done at any rate.
rulez added on the 2002-12-18 23:57:18 by jazzman jazzman
Liked the coder-colors on the pseudo-radiosity scenes :)
rulez added on the 2003-01-23 23:36:04 by shash shash
Interesting music and different look (previous C-64 people?), but the radiosity just didn't show, looks more like fake use of lights + weird rendering noise.

Still, has that little something to it.
added on the 2003-01-24 00:17:20 by Jare Jare
ABSOLUTE SHIT!!!
sucks added on the 2003-04-08 06:55:09 by donny donny
don: note that this is 3 years old. how many better demos with realtime radiosity have you seen in the year of 2000 or before? or.. have you even implemented it?
added on the 2003-05-16 05:51:05 by crs crs
oh god, horrible music!

i like the demo cuz i love radiosity!! and in realtime WOWW! and in year 2000!
rulez added on the 2003-05-16 14:05:48 by shadez shadez
Ugly in the extreme
sucks added on the 2003-11-13 23:30:51 by Pete Pete
whatever you say: its still one of my favourites! not only the technical side (fake or not: it looks GOOD and its FAST!) but also the sick music, gfx and texts..
!BRONCS!
rulezcdc added on the 2004-09-20 17:34:53 by toxie toxie
and btw: name another demo-engine that is able to simulate the light-transport across mirrors..
(this scene (see screenshot) blew me away back then when watching it on my rusty amd k6)
added on the 2004-09-20 17:40:42 by toxie toxie
<3
rulez added on the 2004-09-20 18:50:49 by blala blala
The radiosity(?) engine is rather cool and would receive thumbs up if the rest of the intro was up to par, but even though I'm enthusiastic about putting political content into demos, it didn't fit in at all and looked like crap. So piggie.
added on the 2004-09-20 23:33:05 by Preacher Preacher
One nice scene (on the screenshot), few nice gfx's (ie. the end credits), not-so-amazings soundtrack and the effect, well... I'm not so convinced that it is for real and not a trick. Guess that's the problem.
Nothing impressive, some flaws. Especially the low resolution bugged me. The art didn't fit for the resolution, would have looked a lot better if doubled to 640x480. Not a bad demo, though. Has much potential in it. I liked - and I agree (to) - the announcement you gave.
added on the 2004-09-21 00:19:40 by pahamoka pahamoka
OMG LOOK HOW L33T THEY ARE :O

(btw, the whole thing is precomputed, the lighting data are in xor-encoded PNG files :)
added on the 2005-02-11 14:58:48 by Gargaj Gargaj
wow, those photos are lovely :)
added on the 2005-02-11 16:54:05 by blala blala
evil gargaj.. you just destroyed my illusions of it being realtime.. ;-(
added on the 2005-04-13 18:09:05 by toxie toxie
The radiosity is great, the rest isn´t and the music is not really my taste...
So all in all its a pig for me!
added on the 2005-04-13 18:36:26 by RA RA
what part of the realtime is precalced during the slow 2d line parts?
added on the 2006-12-06 22:50:59 by the_Ye-Ti the_Ye-Ti
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sucks added on the 2006-12-06 23:12:28 by texel texel
it still looks like shit even if it's real
sucks added on the 2006-12-06 23:54:47 by waffle waffle
If you must boast of you technical expertiiize, do it beautifully. A record sucks if quality is neglected.
sucks added on the 2006-12-07 02:54:17 by Hyde Hyde
fuck radiosity this is some hot stuff!
rulez added on the 2007-01-02 02:01:33 by anesthetic anesthetic
nice
rulez added on the 2009-04-15 00:17:13 by aizen aizen
Result looks real, that's it ;o)

Klucí, co takhle návrat a nějaký nový demčo?
rulez added on the 2010-10-22 13:51:02 by jack-3d jack-3d
childhood!
rulez added on the 2011-01-28 16:58:18 by provod provod
Music just killed the demo.
sucks added on the 2012-11-29 20:52:06 by branch branch
underwhelming, and what branch said
sucks added on the 2012-12-10 23:12:00 by noby noby
Good potential but the ending is not very cute.
added on the 2013-08-27 19:36:40 by CHEF-KOCH CHEF-KOCH
What a strange mix of oddball/reactionary political messages and pseudo-advanced effects.
added on the 2014-09-11 11:08:23 by tomaes tomaes
Hahaha, never noticed the messages in the past. That's years before all the anti-feminism arguments on the internet. Now it's relevant.
added on the 2014-09-11 11:47:50 by Optimus Optimus
Fake it 'til you make it!
rulez added on the 2017-05-17 19:52:44 by TomoAlien TomoAlien

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