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Who are the oldest active demo sceners?

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You *are* aware scene started first where the first personal computers were sold first, right ?


Please show me those Altair demos from 1975.
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That brings up another question... Do these people qualify as 'sceners'?
I mean, yes, their music was used in many cracktros/demos/etc by the scene (which is why they would turn up in a list like this). But I was under the impression that these tunes were ripped from games by crackers (before the days of actual 'demogroups' with dedicated artists and musicians) and their use in these prods was not officially authorized.
Aside from that, I wonder if these people consider themselves to be 'sceners'. As in, do they actually follow the scene? Do they visit scene parties, or keep in touch with other sceners on a regular basis? Do they participate on scene websites such as csdb, pouet etc?

back in 1985 they certainly were sceners - they were active on "compunet" (a very early online service) and released demoish productions through that. like this: https://csdb.dk/release/?id=37580
added on the 2016-04-03 16:30:13 by groepaz groepaz
And when exactly were the divisions between "computer hobbyists" scene, "software pirates" scene and "demoscene" again? I forgot. Surely the starting times must be very clear, at least with one-hour accuracy.
added on the 2016-04-03 16:46:27 by yzi yzi
this thread would be a lot more interesting if you oldfarts started posting those releases of which you think that they qualify you for whatever lists. dont be ashamed, everyone will laugh! here is mine (1984ish)
added on the 2016-04-03 16:58:38 by groepaz groepaz
Groepaz: hah, I actually found that on a disk some years back (: guess it made it's way to the netherlands even.
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this thread would be a lot more interesting if you oldfarts started posting those releases of which you think that they qualify you for whatever lists. dont be ashamed, everyone will laugh! here is mine (1984ish)
I am certainly not one of the oldest people here (I am 32) but you can download two games I made in 1994/1995 from my homepage (Tyrwago in Astrein World and Die Reise zum Mond) along with their source code (QBASIC). Might provide some fun as well :)
added on the 2016-04-03 17:43:10 by Adok Adok
I can find some practical value in Gasman's list. It lists people who have been long-time steady contributors, faithful supporters. Visiting demo parties would also count as supporting.

The "who made at least some crap with a computer the longest time ago" list doesn't feel all that useful. But anyway, it's still an achievement, so an award is in order.

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added on the 2016-04-03 18:31:18 by yzi yzi
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Please show me those Altair demos from 1975.


Already working on 8800 MPH :)
added on the 2016-04-03 19:46:32 by Scali Scali
I have to admit this is sort of an interesting topic. Still, there's one aspect I feel has been mostly left out of the thread so far.

It seems the term active has been solely interpreted as contributing to productions, but is this the only activity to take into consideration? There are several other roles in the scene I would consider part of being active. We've had swappers, traders, sysops, and organizers of various types, to mention a few. As an example, looking at Demozoo: Scamp didn't participate in any productions 2006-2011, but I doubt anyone would consider him being an inactive scener those years.
added on the 2016-04-03 20:47:01 by arcane arcane
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As an example, looking at Demozoo: Scamp didn't participate in any productions 2006-2011, but I doubt anyone would consider him being an inactive scener those years.

Word!
added on the 2016-04-03 23:44:54 by marlowe marlowe
Not me I'm sure, but my first release was in 1996.
added on the 2016-04-04 00:21:28 by superplek superplek
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Ghandy is over 50 isn't he?


Nope, he's not even 50 yet.
added on the 2016-04-04 00:50:09 by StingRay StingRay
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Fascinating how people manage to milk drama out of a No!-I'm-the-oldest-fart-round-these-parts thread and get very angry if it's not them. Gasman will live to regret that he started the whole thing. :)


I must be at the top of this arbitrary list how can I reconfigure the rules to suit myself?
Surely I must be the oldest scener who lives on my street!
added on the 2016-04-04 01:20:55 by drift drift
Finally, a thread on the internet that makes me feel a youngster instead of a middle aged grump \(^_^)/
added on the 2016-04-04 08:00:31 by Paradroid Paradroid
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Please show me those Altair demos from 1975.


ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED! Steve Dompier's "A Fool on The Hill" Altair program used software loops to generate music via radio wave interference. You had to tune an AM radio to an unused channel to hear the music.

If generating music on a computer that has no sound output isn't a demo, I don't know what is. So, yes, demos are older than we (you) are, even if they weren't called as such.
added on the 2016-04-04 09:07:25 by trixter trixter
Due to the fact that my first demoish program was from about 1989/1990 or so, I'm considering myself as very young ;)
added on the 2016-04-04 09:40:39 by Aki Aki
music through AM radio? then you must go earlier into PDP-1 era where it all has started. Or maybe Im wrong, pdp-1 seems to have sound output like beeper in zx. nevertheless.
added on the 2016-04-04 10:48:14 by lvd lvd
Just remembered that I actually did a "demo" thing on my c64 in 1990/91 when I wasn't even aware that the demoscene exists as such. And some awful music in 93/94. Not sure if that counts ;)
added on the 2016-04-04 11:23:23 by D.Fox D.Fox
I think a lot of us did some scenish crap before we started identifying ourselves as sceners. ;)
added on the 2016-04-04 11:32:27 by arcane arcane
Lmao, what a weird braggadocio going on here :D

I made a demo in 1993 using a batch file an FLI animation tool and a mod player, shit was fucking tight yo!
added on the 2016-04-04 11:42:05 by okkie okkie
yeah, if even those ugly effects you coded in quickbasic as a 8yo count then we're all 25+ years active ;P
added on the 2016-04-04 13:57:30 by Maali Maali
So, who's doing anything nowadays?
I am!!
added on the 2016-04-04 15:19:15 by okkie okkie
in quickbasic?
added on the 2016-04-04 15:25:52 by Maali Maali
let me know when we get to typewritters ascii art or neanderthal cave painting.
added on the 2016-04-04 15:27:10 by psenough psenough

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