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best gfxcard for demos (latest generation excluded)

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strange people indeed, but what the heck - it got me a really good gfxcard for free, so i'm not complaining. :)

shifter: pay for an ati-card just because the dutch-guys keep telling me OR getting a good nvidia-card for nothing? you tell me which one you'd go for.. :)
added on the 2004-08-14 12:49:28 by gloom gloom
I want my AMIGA back.

So my GF4 ti4600 (it's a second-hand buy but sure it was and is still considered as one of the state of the art gfx card) is no sufficient to run some demos...

It's stupid to make demos which can not be run by a huge majority of sceners...





added on the 2004-08-15 11:03:30 by oxb oxb
i agree wholeheartedly, which is why the cool guys (kewlers anyone? :) keep making demos that rock on "normal" harrdware.

still; more and more pixelshader 2.0-demos keep coming, so after a year or so of whining, i decided to get a new gfx-card, and when i got it for free... well.. no worries then. :)

the moral of the story? get to know some gamers - they are handy. :)
added on the 2004-08-15 12:39:38 by gloom gloom
Yeah, let`s not make a demo...because Oxbow and Gloom can`t watch it on their obsolete hardware.
added on the 2004-08-15 13:04:49 by Zplex Zplex
pay attention dude, i no longer have that "obsolete" hardware, so knock yourself out. :)
added on the 2004-08-15 16:06:12 by gloom gloom
Gloom: seeing I opted out of a free Geforce and bought an ATI instead, perhaps we're just not on the same level of thinking -free ain't always better ;)
added on the 2004-08-15 16:20:41 by Shifter Shifter
you are weird. :)
added on the 2004-08-15 17:06:21 by gloom gloom
Zplex: Let's do unoptimized demos for state of the art machines . In others words: let's do games.

I don't speak for me. I really don't care about being unable to watch these PS2.0 demos. Because if I have to care for that, then I will become like all these consume victims gamers. (who are really envious of my GFX card I bought for a so low price... :)

I think these PS2.0 demos are just beautiful but I think it's too early to consider that everybody can make them run in good conditions (strong PS2.0 card, huge processor, a good load of RAM)

added on the 2004-08-15 17:56:09 by oxb oxb
Zplex: Let's do unoptimized demos for state of the art machines . In others words: let's do games.

I don't speak for me. I really don't care about being unable to watch these PS2.0 demos. Because if I have to care for that, then I will become like all these consume victims gamers. (who are really envious of my GFX card I bought for a so low price... :)

I think these PS2.0 demos are just beautiful but I think it's too early to consider that everybody can make them run in good conditions (strong PS2.0 card, huge processor, a good load of RAM)

added on the 2004-08-15 17:56:36 by oxb oxb

..and who wins these days, i wonder?

added on the 2005-01-17 05:47:18 by raver raver
i am thinking about starting to use multitexture in the near future...
added on the 2005-01-17 09:08:12 by jmagic jmagic
Ok, I bought a Radeon9600pro with 256MB Ram and I am preety happy with it. It's enough faster than FX cards in PS2.0 effects. As for problems, I installed the latest drivers and with most of stuff there are no problems (I haven't tried all of the demos, but unfortunatelly I can't run Beyond :(

I am not sure. Someone should have both FX and Radeon, to test whether his demo code works in both. In case I will start coding an OpenGL demo, I am planning to buy a cheap FX too. I originally bought ATI for the same reason, to try something diferrent from terms of speed and compatibility..
added on the 2005-01-17 16:06:56 by Optimus Optimus
I currently did some testing with my Scovery-D1215 with a Radeon 7000 PCI card.
This card has a pixelshaderpipeline but only one techdemo (radeons-ark 1.3) seems to support it and it looks BEAUTIFUL!.

Are there any Demoscene-Products known, that use the pixelshaderpipeline on that R7000?

techs from ati:
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R100-based GPUs have programmable shading capability in their pipelines; however, the chips are not flexible enough to support the Microsoft Direct3D specification for Pixel Shader 1.1. A forum post by an ATI engineer in 2001 clarified this: ...prior to the final release of DirectX 8.0, Microsoft decided that it was better to expose the RADEON's and GeForce{2}'s extended multitexture capabilities via the extensions to SetTextureStageState() instead of via the pixel shader interface.....The fact that that registry key exists indicates that we did some experiments in the driver, not that we are half way done implementing pixel shaders on RADEON. DirectX 8.0's 1.0 and 1.1 pixel shaders are not supported by RADEON and never will be. The silicon just can't do what is required to support 1.0 or 1.1 shaders. This is also true of GeForce and GeForce2.
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use the pixelshaderpipeline on that R7000

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DirectX 8.0's 1.0 and 1.1 pixel shaders are not supported by RADEON

...sooo no shaders then?
added on the 2018-12-05 18:34:48 by Gargaj Gargaj
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R100-based GPUs have programmable shading capability in their pipelines; however, the chips are not flexible enough to support the Microsoft Direct3D specification for Pixel Shader 1.1.


Look at the floor at the beginning, this is how it looks on a not capable card:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSQcpVa7paM

This is how it should be and this is exactly how it looks on my R7000 PCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ze_i30tPGg&t=17s
Seems to me that using theses shaders require 100% direct coding because they are not directly supported through M$ D3D... that leads to my guess that there will be exactly zero demos/intros that will make use of that one single "pixelshader" pipeline on the R100 gpu.
I own a Zotac Ti1080GTX (the small model), kick proper ass
would recommend it
added on the 2018-12-05 21:22:14 by superplek superplek
Of course this thread was revived with a post that has zero relevance.
added on the 2018-12-06 18:10:46 by gloom gloom
of course it is relevant, now i wouldnt buy a radeon 7000 but rather a radeon 8500 pro as it can render floors properly!
added on the 2018-12-06 18:28:38 by Maali Maali
I've always bought Nvidia, even after that debacle with ASD and how they changed their drivers that broke a few of that group's demos.
added on the 2018-12-06 18:39:54 by Foebane72 Foebane72
fun fact, nvidia drivers broke a few Excess and Fairlight demos... how's that for a debacle, eh? better buy cards from S3 or Matrox next time!
added on the 2018-12-06 18:50:47 by Maali Maali
wuts the best card for ascii demos?
added on the 2018-12-06 23:34:34 by rutra80 rutra80
Hercules.
added on the 2018-12-07 02:46:29 by T$ T$
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fun fact, nvidia drivers broke a few Excess and Fairlight demos...


I think they were supposed to look that way.
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wuts the best card for ascii demos?

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added on the 2018-12-07 10:20:59 by sol_hsa sol_hsa

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